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Great, we got a new contender.

http://www.axonlabs.net

Anyone free to do some detective work...

After reading this:


Who are we?

Axon Labs is a spin-off company born inside a Research & Development Corporation. After months of work, our research team came up with the technology we now use for Synapse Terra miners. As the original company that gave birth to this technology is a research and development hub, we created Axon labs. Dedicated to offer Synapse signature products specifically to the virtual currency mining market.


A bright future

With an incredible interest shown in our products, Axon Labs has set its main goals to develop and manufacture a diversity of high performance products suited for the future of markets. Bitcoin miners are only the beginning of a long and exciting journey!


I feel like family to them! Please put me down for eleventy of them.

I'm just kidding.

- No https AKA Secure sheLL Sockel Layer, which means that this mfg. sent IDs and vetting info to a SSL registrar (tip o' the hat to a kind stranger, Kaega, for pointing out my logic/acronym fail)
- No info, no LinkedIn profile links on company founders

Caveat Emptor!

I stopped reading after they said it was immersion cooling.

Then you missed out on awesome quotes like:

"We are using processors designed and normally used for supercomputers which are not produced in large quantities"
"102 GB/s NOC Bisection Bandwidth"

"Vegetable-based oils can also be used providing the oil is free of debris and has no moisture content"

"Can base units be networked together as one? Theatrically, yes. Practically, no. The computing network of the blades require extreme bandwidth to exchange data between the cores making it unpractical to daisy-chain base units together.".

These clowns are being reviewed on The Scam List

R&D Corporation? WTF?!

And these days, most corporations have non-compete clauses AND have right of first refusal or own the rights to anything created/invented during the course of work.

Just my 2cents.

It`s not totally correct. They have a RapidSSL cert from Geotrust. The Cert is a real one but it is exposed for the domain https://www.ipage.com (https://www.ipage.com).

why hide the domain registration details?

Domain Name: AXONLABS.NET
Registry Domain ID:
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.domain.com
Updated Date: 2013-12-09 06:41:09
Creation Date: 2013-12-09T06:41:09Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2014-12-09 11:41:09
Registrar: Domain.com
Registrar IANA ID: 886
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone:
Reseller: iPage
Reseller: email@ipage-inc.com
Reseller: +1.8774724399
Domain Status:
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Domain Privacy Group
Registrant Organization: Domain Privacy Group
Registrant Street: 10 Corporate Drive Suite 300
Registrant City: Burlington
Registrant State/Province: MA
Registrant Postal Code: 01803
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.6027165339
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: email@domainprivacygroup.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Domain Privacy Group
Admin Organization: Domain Privacy Group
Admin Street: 10 Corporate Drive Suite 300
Admin City: Burlington
Admin State/Province: MA
Admin Postal Code: 01803
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.6027165339
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: email@domainprivacygroup.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Domain Privacy Group
Tech Organization: Domain Privacy Group
Tech Street: 10 Corporate Drive Suite 300
Tech City: Burlington
Tech State/Province: MA
Tech Postal Code: 01803
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.6027165339
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: email@domainprivacygroup.com
Name Server: NS2.IPAGE.COM
Name Server: NS1.IPAGE.COM

scam, it's the same group of scammers repeating the same crap once their ruse is debunked each time.

I'd imagine it's the same people behind 'hashblaster'...

their customer service says they are located in Markham Canada. I should note the customer service moniker used in our chat was "descarte"... same as OP.

What a coincidence, I like your detective work on that point.

did i miss another thread? the OP is asking others to investigate himself? that's a great introduction.

The real fun part starts when they receive the C&D from the real Axon Lab

Oh come on, I want to see some of this theatrical networking. Like culture for geeks.

nah, I am not one of them. I want to know how everyone sees them before I start investing. If someone in canada can verify their address and people working there, I might give it a go.

red flag.
if they are legit, they'll have an {ANN} thread opened.

I am in Canada and live within half an hour drive.

I didn't see the address but I might be willing to stop by if they allow it and a time is arranged.

Edit:  270 Esna Park drive is an industrial section of Markham.  I have customers in that area and I will actually be around the corner from there on Monday for other business.  I will drive by the address and have a look.  I won't be knocking on doors or any such thing.  I am assuming that address is an industrial complex and has multiple units but the website doesn't list a unit number, but I will do a "drive by" on Monday all the same.

I'm not sure you understand what https is and how it is different from SECURE SHELL (ssh).  But alas, a site should have SSL configured on their site.

NEVER give your money to an ASIC company that has neither shown their stuff on these forums or even said a word.

These are fly by night scams and nothing more, if you send to them, you deserve what you get, which is an empty wallet and sorrow that you didn't buy from reputable sources.

This looks like the same jokers behind several others.

Don't mind me. I'm a network engineer that's designed multiple LANs for a number of Research Labs (even a MAN), but I'm an engineer cramming for a Security+ cert. Besides dealing w/ the DoD acronym overload I normally have to deal with, I'm busy cramming info - mostly useless info - for a cert exam. SSH, SSL...close enough!  :D

Thanks for the catch: that should be SSL for Secure Socket Layer (the "s" in https) and not SSH (hooray for Putty).

seems legit

Watch TerraM & 4 megabit rj45 jajaja why not kilobit Ethernet . Jajaja

another photoshop website  >:(

is spartan82 one of those accounts that got hijacked in the recent MIM attack on this very site?

Spartans have never been hijacked since the beginning of time and neither has this Spartan :)



How cute, pretty much saying we will not rip you off any more than you already have been if you purchased any of our "machines".

 Man, you ain't kiddin' !

https://i.imgur.com/AdM8qKQ.png

They forgot to mention: "All your base are belong to us."  :D

Did they also neglect to mention that their facility was guarded by a moat with sharks armed with lazors on their headz?

Not like this isn't clearly a scam but in case anyone is interested I did drive by the address on Monday.  There is no sign of any company called AxonLab or anything close.  14 Units at 270 and all appear to be rented and in use by existing companies with signage, except one.  One of the units was listed as an Ontario numbered corp so I have no idea what they do and they had no sign on the door or window of the unit (just the unit#). 

If in some 1 in a billion off chance someone talks to these guys and they allow visitors I am in the area all the time and would be happy to stop by although I'm not gonna hold my breath waiting.   ;)

thanks for making the trip. That clears up a lot of speculation...

Axon, it's all in yer head.

This is a response from my email to them....


> When can I expect these if I make my order this month?
I'm sorry, we're unable to estimate queue position in a two-weeks period. The best guess I could come up with is - at the beginning of Q2.

> Also I read a scam report on bitcointalk.com. If you google axonlabs a scam you can find the link?
You can probably obtain similar results searching for "Microsoft Scam". This is the internet ;)
 
> Most importantly can I come to your shop and pay cash for these items as I live within reasonable distance. Please understand the lack of trust as your company is new to the miner hardware business.
We don't allow visits of the labs, and we do not accept cash payments. You may use escrow services to hold your payment until delivery or wait for a future shipping batch.




Do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further question. It will be a pleasure to assist you.

 

Kind regards

C. Desjardins, Chief Technical Officer (CTO)
Axon Labs, Markham
Ontario, Canada

Any hardware up for sell on the internet without putting the effort of getting https:// is a huge red flag....

What do you mean by that?