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Long story short >

this is something else to add to these 2 topics

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3526211.0


as well as his own stupid topic

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3738715.msg37195816#msg37195816


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So i wanted to buy some bitmain coupons from this guy, he wanted to sell me ! . so we decided to use escrow !


first topic , warming up for bitrated :D , then he denied knowing it when i busted him

https://ibb.co/mpDSdy

Started a self-moderated topic with his telegram , deleted it later when i busted his bullshit about OGnasty  on bitrated
https://ibb.co/ezV7dy

A simple google search to show that the next screen-shots from telegram are HIS. because i know he would say nooooooo that is not me on telegram :d . u can't fuck with an IT guy ,will bust you drag you by the  BALLS if you got any :D

https://ibb.co/fU0UrJ


HIs name on telegram ( refer to google search or wait for other memeber to come confirm)

https://ibb.co/mOAUrJ




He wants to bitrated :d using the impostor OGNASTY which is either him or one of his friends !

https://ibb.co/gXa7dy


OG denying the shit

https://ibb.co/crQvWJ



getting postive reviews from himself/ scam team fella member :D

https://ibb.co/cMjB5d

re-sending THE FUCKING SAME positive reviews from himself/ scam team fella member :D

https://ibb.co/jASW5d

See how they/he/she copying  and pasting the same bullshit :D

he also got a few other scam accusations on his profile
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now you may be wondering why did he unlcok his own stupid topic after he locked it ( whereby i was able to post a link to this thread on his own)

he threatened to say bullshit about me if i do not delete my comments.


I know what he is going to say from now.

the coupons i wanted to get from him was not for me, it was for one of my clients, so i told him that i will get you a buyer and you give me my cut. and YES i asked him to tell the buyer that he was my cousin or else by the buyer would be specious, and i insisted on HIM and the BUYER on using escrow. now weather you think this is ethical or not ! i do not give a fuck, i did not cheat anybody, i was going to deliver to the buyer the coupons he wanted, the seller the money he was promised and I was suppose to get my cut. now he wanna turn that against me.

but what I do outside the forum with my client is my own shit, i can lie and shit on them as long as i do not scam anybody. and if he has any thing against me. let him come here and show me :D

thank god i busted his shit and warned my client to not use the birated shit of his.

https://preview.ibb.co/m7v15d/10_F24_A34_F761_436_C_8580_15_E418397509.png (https://ibb.co/hO95WJ)
https://preview.ibb.co/jRqCBJ/AABCDA58_18_EC_4934_ABC2_88_E99_D1_BB416.png (https://ibb.co/craOJy)
https://preview.ibb.co/hx0erJ/23_CEAC0_F_F8_BB_4558_9_B0_A_094_EA30_E656_F.png (https://ibb.co/fPP5WJ)
https://preview.ibb.co/b7g8kd/6_EAC0661_F26_A_436_C_A6_F6_2_B416_BAD0610.png (https://ibb.co/nRhsBJ)
https://preview.ibb.co/cJWKrJ/960332_FA_4_AE6_4_CF5_984_E_2_E4_BA7_BC9972.png (https://ibb.co/iibkWJ)
https://preview.ibb.co/mrs3Jy/185_EB8_CF_2_E9_B_4_C95_8268_6_E9_B4_C231364.png (https://ibb.co/d8uHdy)
https://preview.ibb.co/htDokd/DBAEAED4_9857_4133_A1_FE_41884_B2_A3_B5_F.png (https://ibb.co/bU8M5d)
https://preview.ibb.co/eihEQd/E0912_B10_8074_46_BC_82_C7_87_AE037_A7630.png (https://ibb.co/fFJokd)
https://preview.ibb.co/ffoAyy/B74_A911_E_772_F_4314_BDDE_542_CE18_FB379.png (https://ibb.co/dsng5d)

Are you done lying yet??? I’m the green he’s in white

Also.. I was phished. And I accidentally clicked the link. And I got a message from someone with OGNasty and I confirmed later it wasn’t him. I got proof of that too if anyone would like. I don’t like being falsely accused AT ALL. This guy blatantly lied and now he’s gathering friends just to jump in. I’m done commenting and dealing.

https://preview.ibb.co/iLyPrJ/1883797_D_AE41_4463_A83_D_D672_EF10_ACD4.png (https://ibb.co/doBzQd)

Last one. Again I don’t like being lied to.

When were you phished? Your date of registration is on the 19th. There hasn't been anything that affected your account in a way that would seem like it was phished. At all.

Thread archived: https://archive.is/xEVGm

I do not want to quote his screen shots .


Yes I ADMIT I WANTED TO SELL HIS COUPONS FOR HIGHER TO ANOTHER GUY. this is fucking legal bro. people do this everyday. why would i get you a buyer if i do not make money? lol

do not attack me bro, you need to defend  yourself now :D

see you must learn to do 1 thing at a time. now get your self our of this trouble, once all set " if ever" then come back and through your bullshit on me, or you may ask your scam team to attack me while you defend yourself.

all this aside, WHY DID YOU ASK ME TO GO TO BITRATED SAYING OGNASTY SENT YOU THERE?

ya freeze this shit before he changes his words lol.

I think if this topic goes long enough . more people will support my case, i am very sure i was not the only person he asked to go on bitrated to escrow with OGNASTY.

look at his first topic, he clearly is saying ESCROW ON BITRATED.

then he said no i was phished.

never heard of an account being phished before created :D

Yesterday. I changed my password just in case.

https://preview.ibb.co/efq7dy/78_C834_E3_968_C_4_E0_D_AF4_D_C4_A9_B5_ABD218.jpg (https://ibb.co/jwCaWJ)

Also the link was clicked yesterday on accident. Nobody said any other day- and now you’re making excuses. Quit while you’re ahead please.

Why bring it up, then? It seems like a very moot point to make. And I'm not making excuses. I just want to see what's going on.

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https://image.ibb.co/kO40yy/Screenshot_2018_05_13_17_22_03.png

In regards to mikeywith's image, this is not necessarily an attempt at a Bitrated scam. The sender is naming two escrows and stating that they may proceed on Bitrated. This is further cemented by the last quote, keyword being if. If there is a more critical push towards the fake OgNasty account then that would be a better piece of evidence.

Now I'm not sure what was said in the voice recordings, but the content would help with context.

In a nutshell this is what happened. He contacted me originally about buying a $220 Bitmain coupon (he never bought). Then I told him I had other coupons for sale (aside what I was already selling Tekno2020). He alerted me he knew people that needed to buy. So I’m like yeah- okay but if you find someone I’ll pay you a finders fee.  So a while later he finds someone but tells me to act like his cousin. I WAS NOT DOWN WITH THAT. He’s mad because I ended up adding the guy on Facebook- telling him that we aren’t related- and the guy had been misled. So the guy canceled on him because of the lies or idk I can’t speak for that. I am not his cousin. Don’t know him from a can of paint. He’s only making this thread because no deal transpired- which means he doesn’t get paid. I’m done with this and y’all have a nice evening.

I would seriously try to straighten this out or you risk ruining your account.

I tried to. Posted screenshots and he’s still lying. Smh

i was so stupid , rushed confronting him. i am sure if i did not he would have pushed me to it.

common sense, why would he bring it up if he wasn't planing for it? also look at this thread , he clearly talked about bitrated.

can this all be just coincidence?  

also look at this.


https://ibb.co/gGLR5d

the moment i told him that ognasty denied the use of bitrated the guy turned into a professional IT specialist and analysed the whole situation and figured out he was phished in no time ? how is it possible ? :D  

as for the voice recordings I can forward them to your/moderator's telegram or anyone for that matter

add me on telegram > @Mike Moh

i will forward all the voice recordings to who ever wanna hear my voice :D

my issues between me and my clients are my own , you should not worry about them :D.  i am not mad at you , your not my girlfriend :D , i am simply discussing a series matter here. you running away from the main topic and trying to talk shit about me:D.

and hey, how is the coupons you were selling to Tekno are different from the once you were trying to sell me? you screen shot all of your coupons and told me " i want to sell all" . :D . you ditched Tekno coz i gave you a better price? admit it !

anyway that's not the main point of the topic.

he probably doesn't care, he will use another account and life goes on.

This is my ONLY account.

TECKNO price was better actually. Because he’s more trusted than you at this point. Price was never the issue. You trying to do a 4 way trade was. So it could essentially look like they were your coupons. When they’re truly mine. You know it.

maybe you should ask tekno to come here and share the prices he was willing to pay, and  i share mine " screenshots" only for people to know more and more about your lies:D

by the way are you that stupid at maths too?? it's 3 parties trade. you , me and the client.

this is a very common way of doing business. every company is based on this type of scheme. people connect people and get paid for it ! facebook makes billions of dollars doing this why can't make a few hundreds  ? :D

as long as i NEVER tried to scam you by sending you fake escrow services or asking you to send me the coupons first. i myself i asked you arrange for bitcointalk.com escrow.

if you have any proof on me trying to scam you post the screenshot instead of nagging like a nasty bitch.

I was honest all the way with you, i told you i am re-selling your shit. everybody does that so why do you think it's a negative point you putting against me here?


anyway, it's 3 am here, i am going to have sex and sleep :D , i got another seller and my client is waiting i am making some good money later on,ain't got time for your shit. let the moderators judge. also i  am sure some of your victims will tag along to fuck you up even more.

i wanna give you a free tip. since your account is still fresh, just forget about it :D , go use the one you used to give yourself a positive review if it's clean still :D

To all buyers and guys. Please beware on this scammer Kraven

He always use Escrow as primary trade method (to get buyers confidence).
But end up he will select bitrated.com with many reasons (Eg: Escrow did not accept BTC/cryptocurrency.). Why he want to use Bitrated ?

Because he got 2 accounts in Bitrated.com.
1. Seller (himself)
2. Trusted Agent (also himself)

He can manipulate and verify the trade without send you the coupons. Guys please beware! Thanks.

For those who want to buy any goods, please use the Bitcointalk Escrow service :-
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439910.0

Thanks.

This is interesting.   
Strangely enough, this Kraven dude also suggested we escrow via Bitrated for our deal. 
See this screenshot.
https://imgur.com/dYo4fwM

Same thing, told me he was OK escrowing with OGNasty or SebastianJu here on BCT.  So, it sounds like his tactic is to somewhere along the line to redirect towards a 'trusted escrow' under his control on bitrated?

I can also confirm that this dude, Kraven, is drama queen and liar.   He said that I threatened him when i told him to chill and wait for MJ to complete our deal. Why do I need to threaten the guy for? The deal was set,,,, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3738715.0   I just told him to chill until MJ completes the deal. But he lied and said I was threatening him. 

https://imgur.com/Vdg5euP

So, yes, definitely a shady slickster.  So, I fully expect him to try and VOMIT on the thread by leaving a very long crap comment with load of images, so nobody reads. Common tactic to try and throw sand in the eyes and misdirect.

First and foremost- babyminers=lswong is a person I NEVER DEALT WITH. EVER. I’ve said this countless times! I’ve never even spoke with him or even gotten a pm from him until a random day saying I scammed. Also admin can see that. They can see any messages and accountvactivity (even if it was deleted). I’m not sure why Teckno and the OP are working together but it’s a idiot move that’s totally false and baseless. Both are angry but I never scammed anyone. Smdh.

More people are confirming that you wanted to drag them to bitrated so you can scam there.
 

Sounds familiar!

Nice scam James.

You just got me for 750 dollars. Know that I'm contacting bitmain and rescinding those coupons.

Kraven, Mursuita Conig, James Coop or whatever your nick is now.
Is there any particular reasons you got banned from a Bitmain sell/buy telegram group?

https://i.imgur.com/UHysGcL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mD91DEe.jpg



Also should I put up the conversation I had with you on telegram? You were trying to pull a scam, lol you though I didn't know how Bitrated.com works?
I don't think you can dig yourself out of that one.


You deserve to be painted in RED

Kahc, Please post the conversation you had with this lowlife.  This low IQ individual fancies himself as some villain mastermind. Just google his username 'Kraven'. Dude tries to act like he never used Bitrated before.... but tries to direct his trades to Bitrated.

Here is the conversation.


As you guys can tell his previous nick was @mursuita , now @jimmyjahmcoop .

https://i.imgur.com/W8jfBYw.jpg


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https://i.imgur.com/aZwuYXl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/iHBRq9G.jpg


I gave him my Bitrated account, and he probably thought I've were a noob because my account was level 0.
Then he proceed to say "I will look to see who online", I mean WTF man, everyone who ever traded on Bitrated know that the trust agents DO NOT need to be online at all for the trade to take place.
The trust agent is only ever needed when there is a dispute.
I then demand to pick collin = collincrypto (https://www.bitrated.com/collincrypto) which is the top trust agent on bitrated.com, and then no idea what he is talking about the verify on discord thing.

After what happened, I am sure that babyminers scam accusation against Kraven (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3526211.0) is legit.
Kraven is using "I will look to see who is online method" to confuse people who's never used Bitrated before, and pick his his own account as an trust agent/escrow. This is further confirmed by pics I provided above from the Telegram channel he is banned from.

Yes... same tactic.  He suggested that I use Bitrated on a trade with him also, but I insisted on trusted forum escrow.   He also bailed on the trade when escrow was delayed by a couple of days.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3738715.0

With all of this mounting evidence, someone definitely needs to paint his account red.   It will not stop these depraved scammers, but at least maybe it will slow them down.

I just got hit with the same scam Kraven I was getting impatient and thought that escrow would protect me. It never occurred to me that the dude would create a fake OgNasty account. I lost over 0.4btc. I usually do more research. I have been on bitcointalk since 2013 (originally millerg) have only interacted with great people here so I guess I let my guard down.

BEWARE of Bitrated.com and the user OGNastyBTC it is run by Kraven. I will report this properly but wanted to get something out quick to warn others. Below is a very familiar image of his coupons.

https://i.imgur.com/afZYyp5.jpg

Pretty embarrassing to say the least.

Too sad to hear these stories, i tried to warn everybody about this scam artist. all evidence were there but nobody gave that guy a RED PAINT on his shit. and he still gets more people everyday. i think the mods here are not doing their job ! period. and before you try to defend them, see the date of my post and all the evidence, all the complains from others, and Karven is still screwing people on this forum.

Sad to hear, Kraven should have been painted RED earlier.

However, verified escrow agents like coblee and collincrypto on Bitrated.com are actually legit.
People should REJECT the trade, if the buyer picks a random or an unverified escrow agent.
Like the fake OGNastyBTC, you can verify with OGnasty on this forum, he doesn't have an account there.