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Title: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Hollie on August 24, 2011, 11:34:16 PM
 I just got  HP Touchpads and I don't want it anymore.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/HP-TouchPad-16GB-Wi-Fi-9-7in-Black-BRAND-NEW-SEALED-/00/$(KGrHqUOKkEE4mCUVNCiBOVD!E2Kyw~~_12.JPG


PM me offers


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: ampirebus on August 25, 2011, 08:11:45 AM
you didnt even post if its 16gb or 32 or what


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: SgtSpike on August 25, 2011, 08:15:14 AM
Redacted.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Chemicalbro on August 25, 2011, 02:30:07 PM
I sent a pm and assuming my bank deposit goes through to the exchange sometime soon, I'll be buying this. And yes, i'm aware of how much he likely paid for it, damned if I could even find any in stock where I live.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Hollie on August 25, 2011, 02:32:42 PM
I didn't buy it for $99

I brought it on August 10 for $399


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: stsbrad on August 25, 2011, 02:40:37 PM
I didn't buy it for $99

I brought it on August 10 for $399

I will give you $99.00


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: kookiekrak on August 25, 2011, 03:06:34 PM
I didn't buy it for $99

I brought it on August 10 for $399

post a photo of the receipt also as proof please.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: helloworld on August 25, 2011, 03:22:49 PM
I brought it on August 10 for $399

Holy bad timing batman!


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: SgtSpike on August 25, 2011, 03:35:12 PM
I didn't buy it for $99

I brought it on August 10 for $399
I retract my statement then.  ;)


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Fiyasko on August 25, 2011, 04:14:32 PM
I didn't buy it for $99

I brought it on August 10 for $399


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Stefanie Andrea on August 25, 2011, 04:20:13 PM
Lulz


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: ampirebus on August 25, 2011, 06:16:26 PM
final offer 155 $ or eqv BTC shipped for 16GB or 188$ or eqv BTC shipped for the 32.

doesnt matter if you "paid 400" because all retailers give you the price drop difference back.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: ataranlen on August 25, 2011, 07:37:28 PM
I didn't buy it for $99

I brought it on August 10 for $399

That's within the return policy of EVERY store (cept for Frys). Why not just return it?


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: CurbsideProphet on August 25, 2011, 10:34:26 PM
FYI Ninja has agreed to sell the Touchpad to me.  BTC's have already been sent.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Chemicalbro on August 26, 2011, 01:51:27 AM
Well then, I hope he's got more than one, as he agreed to sell me one last night.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: dalamchops on August 26, 2011, 01:52:24 AM
Well then, I hope he's got more than one.

did you send btc as well?


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Chemicalbro on August 26, 2011, 01:53:21 AM
did you send btc as well?

Not yet, waiting on a bank -> exchange deposit to go through.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: dalamchops on August 26, 2011, 01:54:39 AM
did you send btc as well?

Not yet, waiting on a bank -> exchange deposit to go through.

I wouldn't send until seller can confirm he has more than 1.

his op said he has A touchpad


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Chemicalbro on August 26, 2011, 01:56:31 AM
Ninja, do you mind confirming that you have more than one?


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Hollie on August 26, 2011, 01:56:43 AM
Yep.

I got more than one.

I just got bunch from my contact inside Bestbuy & another inside a wholesaler.

I got several at the reasonable price.
Also I got a couple being shipped to me for re-selling purposes.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: BrianH on August 26, 2011, 02:27:59 AM
You got feedback?


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Stefanie Andrea on August 26, 2011, 02:34:00 AM
I can vouch for him.

I brought a Macbook Pro from him.

I sent first & I received in about 4 days  :D


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Chemicalbro on August 26, 2011, 02:38:58 AM
I can vouch for him.

I brought a Macbook Pro from him.

I sent first & I received in about 4 days  :D

Why do both you and Ninja say brought instead of bought? Search the posts. I hope you're not the same person...


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Stefanie Andrea on August 26, 2011, 02:41:12 AM
I'm not a fluent English speaking person.

I mess on words  :(


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: helloworld on August 26, 2011, 06:36:07 AM
I mess on words  :(

TMI


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Fiyasko on August 26, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Yep.

I got more than one.

I just got bunch from my contact inside Bestbuy & another inside a wholesaler.

I got several at the reasonable price.
Also I got a couple being shipped to me for re-selling purposes.

SCALPER


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: ampirebus on August 26, 2011, 03:52:19 PM
i wanted to buy the 32 but his story is changing... first he bought it at full price... and he has 1 of them

now he has multiple and hes getting them from a "best buy hookup"

i think ill hold my horses here and wait to see how this pans out  ???

my fears would dissappear with a detailed post explaining the real deal


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Chemicalbro on August 26, 2011, 04:27:23 PM
I also agreed to purchase a 16gb model. I think I'll wait until I hear some feedback from others or if Ninja provides some past trades.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Hollie on August 26, 2011, 05:16:52 PM
I have the one that I got on Aug. 10.

Then I bought more from my bestbuy contact.

And I got some from eBay just for re-selling purposes

And I have sold many things.


I have sold a EVO 3D & a few laptops.

And Hundreds of Humble Bundles when it was on.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Ampix0 on August 26, 2011, 05:32:08 PM
I just paid him for it. Really hope this transaction moves smoothly...


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Ampix0 on August 26, 2011, 05:34:12 PM
whoah just read some more.. ninja How many do you have.. I better not get screwed here..


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Ampix0 on August 26, 2011, 05:39:58 PM
only now to I decide to check block explorer after I pay him half and I see now that this is a new address. I feel like he might have given us a new address for each of us to cover tracks

What I paid to: http://blockexplorer.com/address/1Gzgq8E1g82VsQ5v9EVF9cJgz7oQJRiFyS


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: enmaku on August 26, 2011, 05:45:40 PM
only now to I decide to check block explorer after I pay him half and I see now that this is a new address. I feel like he might have given us a new address for each of us to cover tracks

What I paid to: http://blockexplorer.com/address/1Gzgq8E1g82VsQ5v9EVF9cJgz7oQJRiFyS

Or he could have given each of you a new address because that's recommended standard practice (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/FAQ#Why_does_my_Bitcoin_address_keep_changing.3F)


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Chemicalbro on August 26, 2011, 06:07:04 PM
I'm not implying anything fishy is going on here fyi. Just being cautious and waiting for info or some links of good reference.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: ampirebus on August 26, 2011, 06:22:31 PM
dont send this guy anymore money, he is responding in the smallest sentences possible. (Look at his last post)


 he has not mentioned shipping details, what provider he would use, etc etc... things any basic seller would mention. such as "im shipping it in a box in a box" or "its coming USPS" or "its coming UPS" or "what shipping service would you like me to use?"

He just happens to be able to tell people everything they want to hear and nothing more...


(filter his posts)

Im not buying from him and this is clearly a scam. Anything other than a well thought out extremely detailed post with a highly educated reading level portrayed will further prove (in my opinion) that this poster is scamming as many people as he can.


lastly i mentioned escrow and he didnt even reference that (in private message)
Im a frequent eBayer and if he got them "on eBay" well they're going for 300 dollars on average right now, just go to www.ebay.com and check for yourself , so there is no way possible he bought them on eBay to resell for EVEN LESS MONEY here. if you sent him any BTC kiss it goodbye forever and ever. When i sell products i immediately give tracking shipment information after the buyer has paid. i mean immediately. once they send me the money, its no longer my good and i feel obligated to take it to ups/usps or print digital shipping for pickup.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: ampirebus on August 26, 2011, 06:29:05 PM
Ninja
I have the one that I got on Aug. 10.
Then I bought more from my bestbuy contact.
And I got some from eBay just for re-selling purposes
And I have sold many things.
I have sold a EVO 3D & a few laptops.
And Hundreds of Humble Bundles when it was on.


either he's a freshman in highschool or he's hiding something (or maybe english is not their first language). Normal people who do business do not speak with such candor or with such sporadic statements.

also compare his posting style to the posting style of the user who "bought a macbook pro for him and sent first"
 (in this same topic)


Stefanie Andrea
I can vouch for him.
I brought a Macbook Pro from him.
I sent first & I received in about 4 days


how many people type one sentence and then hit enter and then type one more short sentence repeatedly for the whole post... not many. They're the same poster or they happen to think  and talk in exactly the same manner. they both even randomly use the ampersand sign (&) in place of "and" but will type the word "And" if it is the start of a sentence... how many native english speakers do you know that use "&" in the middle of a sentence but start a sentence with the normal word


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: ampirebus on August 26, 2011, 06:39:45 PM
last post,

how many verified sellers keep their emails hidden?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=37466
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23580

Name:    Stefanie Andrea
Posts:    135 (6.750 per day)
Respect:    0
Position:    Full Member
Date Registered:    August 06, 2011, 10:35:23 am
Last Active:    Today at 06:17:12 pm
ICQ:    
AIM:    
MSN:    
YIM:    
Email:    hidden
Website:    
Current Status:    Offline Offline
Gender:    Female
Age:    50
Location:    Mexico
Local Time:    August 26, 2011, 06:30:03 pm
Language:
Name:    Ninja
Posts:    294 (4.027 per day)
Respect:    0
Position:    Sr. Member
Date Registered:    June 14, 2011, 09:03:03 am
Last Active:    Today at 05:31:42 pm
ICQ:    
AIM:    
MSN:    
YIM:    
Email:    hidden
Website:    
Current Status:    Offline Offline
Gender:    
Age:    N/A
Location:    
Local Time:    August 26, 2011, 11:37:16 pm
Language:

im soooooooo sure he sent a macbook pro to a 50 year old mexican woman in mexico (which somehow cleared customs instantly when customs usually takes a week to clear 1 package) who posts on an english only web forum   


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Chemicalbro on August 26, 2011, 06:41:27 PM

They're the same poster or they happen to think  and talk in exactly the same manner.


Glad I'm not the only one who was suspecting this. A forum admin could see if the IP's matched easy enough. But if they didn't match, doesn't mean anything, could be smart enough to log in to each account from somewhere else (proxy).

I think I'll stay away until I hear someone legit post a good word about Ninja (even though I really want a cheap Touchpad).


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: SgtSpike on August 26, 2011, 06:41:52 PM
Ninja
I have the one that I got on Aug. 10.
Then I bought more from my bestbuy contact.
And I got some from eBay just for re-selling purposes
And I have sold many things.
I have sold a EVO 3D & a few laptops.
And Hundreds of Humble Bundles when it was on.


either he's a freshman in highschool or he's hiding something (or maybe english is not their first language). Normal people who do business do not speak with such candor or with such sporadic statements.

also compare his posting style to the posting style of the user who "bought a macbook pro for him and sent first"
 (in this same topic)


Stefanie Andrea
I can vouch for him.
I brought a Macbook Pro from him.
I sent first & I received in about 4 days


how many people type one sentence and then hit enter and then type one more short sentence repeatedly for the whole post... not many. They're the same poster or they happen to think  and talk in exactly the same manner. they both even randomly use the ampersand sign (&) in place of "and" but will type the word "And" if it is the start of a sentence... how many native english speakers do you know that use "&" in the middle of a sentence but start a sentence with the normal word
Good catches.  Also, the "brought" vs "bought" misspelling from both profiles.

I hope, for the sake of the people who have already paid him, that he is not a scammer.  But this sort of stuff is hard to explain...


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: CurbsideProphet on August 26, 2011, 08:06:49 PM
I will post publicly here if/when the Touchpad arrives.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Ampix0 on August 26, 2011, 08:17:50 PM
How do we contact an admin about him? Im thinking I'm about %90 sure he just stole 8 BTC from me.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: wildboy211 on August 26, 2011, 08:29:12 PM
Also look at the image URL - its from ebay.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Ampix0 on August 26, 2011, 08:33:21 PM
That fucker... Stole $80 from me.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: ampirebus on August 26, 2011, 08:47:50 PM
what shipping service did he say he was going to use for you guys,
also the first post  by "stefanie" in this thread was "lulz" if that doesnt make it clear enough (see page 1)

Stefanie Andrea
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Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
August 25, 2011, 04:20:13 pm
   Reply with quote  #11
Lulz


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: CurbsideProphet on August 27, 2011, 12:20:39 AM
Ninja sent me a PM that he mailed it to me today.  I will keep everyone updated.  Our transaction was only a few days ago so I don't think it's right to jump to conclusions yet.  He has been responsive to my PM's throughout.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: bigfoot on August 27, 2011, 05:08:36 PM
Sent me a reply saying he mailed it as well.....


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Ampix0 on August 27, 2011, 06:44:05 PM
I asked for my BTC back no answer back yet about it. If he does in fact send back my BTC or send a Touchpad I will apologize but I really don't believe it.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: PiGames on August 27, 2011, 06:56:11 PM
Every time I come on these forums there's talk about someone scamming someone.
I really hope this plays out to not be one of those cases.
Seems like anonymous currency is a double edged sword.
People think they can do whatever they want.
Time to grow up and be part of a society.

I actually thought about doing some sales with bitcoin (I've been around for a while and have a good rep as far as I can tell) but drumming up business might be hard when people 'expect' to be scammed.

-for those who sent him btc/$ I REALLY hope you're either reimbursed or Rec what you paid for.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: kpriess on August 27, 2011, 10:49:13 PM
This guy/gal was using 2 accounts while selling the Humble Bundle, if you attacked the seller he/she would come with a second account to defend him/her..

That's just bad news right there..


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: ampirebus on August 28, 2011, 06:21:50 AM
Every time I come on these forums there's talk about someone scamming someone.
I really hope this plays out to not be one of those cases.
Seems like anonymous currency is a double edged sword.
People think they can do whatever they want.
Time to grow up and be part of a society.

I actually thought about doing some sales with bitcoin (I've been around for a while and have a good rep as far as I can tell) but drumming up business might be hard when people 'expect' to be scammed.

-for those who sent him btc/$ I REALLY hope you're either reimbursed or Rec what you paid for.

this could not be more clearly a scam. he even posted "Lulz"

come on now


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: ampirebus on August 28, 2011, 08:55:12 PM
Ninja sent me a PM that he mailed it to me today.  I will keep everyone updated.  Our transaction was only a few days ago so I don't think it's right to jump to conclusions yet.  He has been responsive to my PM's throughout.

"i mailed it"

mailed it how? by waht shipping service and tracking #... even first class USPS mail has tracking #s to confirm the item is being sent but have no status updates along the way...

he did not mail you a touchpad and you lost that money... talk about being a spring chicken. I wouldnt send any money to anyone on these forums without a picture of the printed out shipping prepaid label and Tracking # on it in his hands with username written on a piece of paper, and i wouldnt send any money without escrow. especially users who do not have emails publicly listed.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: ampirebus on August 28, 2011, 09:16:26 PM
okay what the heck? some how the user NINJA-- got their username changed to HOLLIE. i had 3 private messages with NINJA-- and then i click this topic and it says its made by HOLLIE and my private messages also say HOLLIE in stead of ninja again


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: ercolinux on August 28, 2011, 09:54:20 PM

this could not be more clearly a scam. he even posted "Lulz"

come on now

It can really sound as scam, but I've to say that Ninja/Hollie orderd me 2 laser engraved cards and I still waiting for the money  :-\ , Stefanie also ordered  1 and payed quickly; the postal postal address is in Texas, while Ninja seems to live in Australia. Not that a 0,5BTC transaction is a big proof but it can be only a coincidence


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: ampirebus on August 28, 2011, 10:03:47 PM
well if hollie is in australia, the touchpads werent available outside of the US/canada for the sale price. only the united kingdom enjoyed the sale and it was very briefly lived.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: helloworld on August 29, 2011, 01:32:52 AM
Info like that is trivial to find with Google, huh? http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/buyers-swoop-on-harvey-normans-discontinued-hp-touchpad/story-e6frgakx-1226119991630


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: shakaru on August 29, 2011, 03:25:12 AM
okay what the heck? some how the user NINJA-- got their username changed to HOLLIE. i had 3 private messages with NINJA-- and then i click this topic and it says its made by HOLLIE and my private messages also say HOLLIE in stead of ninja again

Your refering probably to Ninja and not Ninja--. Unless Ninja-- sent me an empty box, my tracking number says that its been droped off at a UPS location.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Ampix0 on August 29, 2011, 03:43:38 PM
Im so fucking pissed he stole 8 BTC is there nothing at all we can do?


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: enygma on August 29, 2011, 06:05:59 PM
I believe I'm in a similar boat with Ninja/Hollie. My saving grace was that the transaction was for MtGox USD, paid for by myself via Paypal. I'm currently investigating and filed notice with Paypal that the transaction may be fraudulent, but I let them know that I'm waiting until Wednesday, because I've contacted Ninja/Hollie and given him/her till Wednesday to complete the transaction.

My suspicions have arisen after 4 private messages and an email have been sent after money was sent with no response, so I plan to investigate this user in the meantime.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: marks1976 on August 29, 2011, 07:29:31 PM
It appears Ninja/Hollie got one over on me too.  I paid with paypal so I am going to file a claim today since I still have no responses from PM's.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: NINJA-- on August 29, 2011, 07:37:10 PM
I have nothing to do with this. There was another ninja here before me who changed their name to hollie.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: marks1976 on August 29, 2011, 07:41:52 PM
Ninja-- is a different ninja than hollie that is correct.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: NINJA-- on August 29, 2011, 07:52:12 PM
This person didnt even mention the HD size or provide a pic with their user name. I have more than one should have been another red flag.

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9945/sam2164q.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/sam2164q.jpg/)

(you will always see this with my items)


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: haploid23 on August 31, 2011, 08:03:48 PM
ok this person paid me $100 + shipping for a 1250w PSU, everything was paid for yesterday and money cleared. however, i ran into this thread and i realized that he/she might have paid me with scammed money.


@ Ninja/Hollie/Stefanie: please address all these questions publicly, because a lot of suspicious things tipped me off.

1) the paypal payment you sent me is from Jung Whitley, and it says from paypal that you're unverified. the email associated with this paypal account is z3rohourx@gmail.com. why is your account unverified, and why is your name on paypal different than all other forum, ebay, dwolla accounts?

2) you said to check your feedback on ebay user "stars_20_05 (http://myworld.ebay.com/stars_20_05)". can you prove to me this is really you? send me an email from that ebay account.

3) why did you request for me to buy you a PSU from newegg with my credit card and you give me that exact amount in paypal/BTC/dwoll? why can't you just buy it yourself with your own credit card? and from your post history, it seems like you can't directly buy things from newegg, you either need to do it through gift cards or have someone else do it for you. why? is it because you don't have a real address or credit card?

4) your dwolla profile info might be the only real info from all this. name under the account is Stefanie Andrea, address is 1302 Billings Dr. San Antonio, TX 78245. why does this not match with any other accounts?

5) why do you have several accounts on here? and why did you have to change your account name from "ninja" to "hollie"?



if you sent me stolen money, papal and dwolla might take the money back from me and return it to the rightful owners. and because of this, i'm not going to ship your item, unless you answer all those questions i asked and clear all the inconsistencies, as well as ship all items people bought from you in this thread and all your other threads. your PSU is already packaged up and ready to ship, just clear all these problems and i'll send you your item.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Pearikay on August 31, 2011, 08:17:38 PM
Stefanie isn't Ninja/Hollie. Hollie emailed me from htaylo24@yahoo.co.uk trying to sell me this touchpad, and I felt that she was trying to scam me.

I have found this information about her:
MySpace:
Email: htaylo24@gmail.com
Password: frankie1
IP Address: 71.21.81.140 (probably a proxy)


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: marks1976 on August 31, 2011, 08:19:40 PM
ok this person paid me $100 + shipping for a 1250w PSU, everything was paid for yesterday and money cleared. however, i ran into this thread and i realized that he/she might have paid me with scammed money.


@ Ninja/Hollie/Stefanie: please address all these questions publicly, because a lot of suspicious things tipped me off.

1) the paypal payment you sent me is from Jung Whitley, and it says from paypal that you're unverified. the email associated with this paypal account is z3rohourx@gmail.com. why is your account unverified, and why is your name on paypal different than all other forum, ebay, dwolla accounts?

2) you said to check your feedback on ebay user "stars_20_05 (http://myworld.ebay.com/stars_20_05)". can you prove to me this is really you? send me an email from that ebay account.

3) why did you request for me to buy you a PSU from newegg with my credit card and you give me that exact amount in paypal/BTC/dwoll? why can't you just buy it yourself with your own credit card? and from your post history, it seems like you can't directly buy things from newegg, you either need to do it through gift cards or have someone else do it for you. why? is it because you don't have a real address or credit card?

4) your dwolla profile info might be the only real info from all this. name under the account is Stefanie Andrea, address is 1302 Billings Dr. San Antonio, TX 78245. why does this not match with any other accounts?

5) why do you have several accounts on here? and why did you have to change your account name from "ninja" to "hollie"?



if you sent me stolen money, papal and dwolla might take the money back from me and return it to the rightful owners. and because of this, i'm not going to ship your item, unless you answer all those questions i asked and clear all the inconsistencies, as well as ship all items people bought from you in this thread and all your other threads. your PSU is already packaged up and ready to ship, just clear all these problems and i'll send you your item.


Jung whitley is the name I sent my paypal payment to and received no product back in return.  I have opened a dispute with Paypal in regards to this user.  The money transferred from Paypal was probably partially mine as well as others.  Continue to look at other posts this person Hollie/Ninja/Stefanie has been associated with all dealings withing each post of the other user.  There is a post in here somewhere that Stefanie denies being these other people or a scammer.  Do not deal with any of the usernames given.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: haploid23 on August 31, 2011, 08:35:01 PM
Jung whitley is the name I sent my paypal payment to and received no product back in return.  I have opened a dispute with Paypal in regards to this user.  The money transferred from Paypal was probably partially mine as well as others.  Continue to look at other posts this person Hollie/Ninja/Stefanie has been associated with all dealings withing each post of the other user.  There is a post in here somewhere that Stefanie denies being these other people or a scammer.  Do not deal with any of the usernames given.

Ninja/Hollie is one account (with changed user names), and Stefanie Andrea is a separate account. if you bought and paid money to Hollie to a paypal account with "Jung whitley", and Stefanie sent me money from the paypal account with "Jung whitley" name also, then it's pretty much confirmed that Ninja/Hollie and Stefanie Andrea is the same person.

if you win the paypal dispute, this is actually bad for me because there's a high chance paypal will withdraw that money from me since it was originally yours.  :-[


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: marks1976 on August 31, 2011, 08:52:31 PM
Jung whitley is the name I sent my paypal payment to and received no product back in return.  I have opened a dispute with Paypal in regards to this user.  The money transferred from Paypal was probably partially mine as well as others.  Continue to look at other posts this person Hollie/Ninja/Stefanie has been associated with all dealings withing each post of the other user.  There is a post in here somewhere that Stefanie denies being these other people or a scammer.  Do not deal with any of the usernames given.

Ninja/Hollie is one account (with changed user names), and Stefanie Andrea is a separate account. if you bought and paid money to Hollie to a paypal account with "Jung whitley", and Stefanie sent me money from the paypal account with "Jung whitley" name also, then it's pretty much confirmed that Ninja/Hollie and Stefanie Andrea is the same person.

if you win the paypal dispute, this is actually bad for me because there's a high chance paypal will withdraw that money from me since it was originally yours.  :-[

Correct I would not ship to this customer.  That is the case.  The name Ninja/Hollie is who I paid with the email address of z3rohourx@gmail.com.  This was a payment for an HP Touchpad and it never shipped then the user switched names.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: enygma on August 31, 2011, 09:14:40 PM
Since I gave Ninja/Hollie till today to respond before I essentially slander them and haven't heard back from him/her...

Our transaction was to purchase $300 in MtGox USD via Paypal. Ninja/Hollie offered to do the trasnaction in 2 stages stating that they had $800 in MtGox. A $300 transaction, and a $450 transaction, as I was looking to do a $750 purchase of MtGox USD, relatively inexpensively.

After I sent the money, all communication ceased. I sent a PM a day, then started sending to email addresses (the Paypal Address associated with Jung Whitley) and the email in their profile. I heard no response from either. Immediately, I checked my bank account to make sure payment was not completed and put a stop payment for the CDN equivalent of the transaction from Paypal, and called Paypal directly to dispute the transaction. Paypal now has a hold on that $300 in Jung's account, and they are waiting for them to respond to the claim.

After sending the Paypal transaction, I got a PM from Stefanie Andrea, but the desire to make a transaction wasn't so imminent. I'll leave it at that as I am not 100% certain if Stefanie Andrea is Ninja/Hollie or not, so I don't want to completely implicate that user as being associated, but since many people are drawing lines between the 2 users, I figure it justified a mention.

So far, I'm not out the $300, but it did cost $10 to put the stop payment on the transaction through the bank, so that is about all the ordeal cost me.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: NINJA-- on August 31, 2011, 09:21:50 PM
Hollie is also Stefanie Andrea? She just asked me to buy her newegg gift card for paypal.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Mousepotato on August 31, 2011, 09:48:29 PM
Stefanie Andrea also replied to my inquiry about the price of a used 5970 which was for sale by a user named nextshare: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38417.0 as if he forgot he was still logged into his Stefanie Andrea account.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: NINJA-- on August 31, 2011, 11:27:02 PM
I dont get it. I see where she replied to your question about how much. But Im failing to see how this relates her to hollie.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Chemicalbro on September 01, 2011, 12:35:02 AM
I had been messaging Hollie/Ninja for this, then Stefanie Andrea started messaging me about another item I was trying to sell. Strange coincidence that everyone's getting contacted by Stefanie afterwards.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: NINJA-- on September 01, 2011, 01:52:56 AM
Stefanie Andrea also replied to my inquiry about the price of a used 5970 which was for sale by a user named nextshare: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38417.0 as if he forgot he was still logged into his Stefanie Andrea account.

Do you think stefanie is nextshare?


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: indio007 on September 01, 2011, 06:26:06 AM
So let me get this straight,
Money was sent to Ninja/Hollie to a Paypal account named Jung Whitey.
&
Money was received from Andrea Stefanie via a Paypal account named Jung Whitley.

Well I sold Andrea a 5850 last week he paid me via a Paypal account named Jung Whitley

Quote
Date:   
Aug 25, 2011
Time:   
13:16:20 PDT
Status:   
Completed

Subject:   
Jung Whitley has just sent you $205.00 USD with PayPal
Note:   
Sent using the PayPal Mobile application
Payment type:   
Instant

The video card was sent to San Antonio Texas.

Going to start using
Restricted delivery with Post Office pick up only. That way you get their ID and a bunch of photos of them in the post office.

I had a funny feeling about this and was tempted to call the San Antonio police department to ask about the address before he got it. Should have done it and he would have been in cuffs instead of picking up a video card.
I didn't have any evidence of fraud at the time other than the name. I just figured it was his wife , girlfriend or room mate.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: haploid23 on September 01, 2011, 07:40:05 AM
So let me get this straight,
Money was sent to Ninja/Hollie to a Paypal account named Jung Whitey.
&
Money was received from Andrea Stefanie via a Paypal account named Jung Whitley.

Well I sold Andrea a 5850 last week he paid me via a Paypal account named Jung Whitley

yes, that's exactly right. you're in the same position as i am. if marks1976 wins the paypal dispute, then there's a really high chance paypal will pull that money from you because it was originally from marks1976 or others that payed this "jung whitley" account.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: indio007 on September 01, 2011, 08:05:01 AM
Well I'm not sure about that. I believe my transaction was b4 his payment. I could also have swore Paypal info said it was paid from a bank account and that he was verified. When I just checked it said unverified. He might be just playing a "robbing peter to pay paul" scam. Like kiting a check. I don't know Paypal is getting contacted in the AM. Depending on what I hear, San Antonio Cyber Crimes Division and the FBI CyberCrime division and the devil of all devils , the post master general.

I have plenty of cash to get to where I have to so I can testify. The money don't matter. It's the principle. I will make an example out  of him/her.
I suspect Jung Whitley is his real name and he got out of hand with his scheme.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: NINJA-- on September 01, 2011, 08:07:58 AM
I suspect Jung Whitley is his real name and he got out of hand with his scheme.

That name is so fake. All his paypal info is prolly fake.

http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/gen-random-us-us.php


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: d.james on September 01, 2011, 08:50:11 AM
I have nothing to do with this. There was another ninja here before me who changed their name to hollie.

My question is how does one change his forum name to spoof another member?? ???


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Mousepotato on September 01, 2011, 04:28:53 PM
Stefanie Andrea also replied to my inquiry about the price of a used 5970 which was for sale by a user named nextshare: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38417.0 as if he forgot he was still logged into his Stefanie Andrea account.

Do you think stefanie is nextshare?

Seems like it could be another one of his alt accounts.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Mousepotato on September 01, 2011, 04:30:42 PM
I have nothing to do with this. There was another ninja here before me who changed their name to hollie.

My question is how does one change his forum name to spoof another member?? ???

"Ninja" != "NINJA--"


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: NINJA-- on September 01, 2011, 07:29:01 PM
No,    Ninja = Hollie    Me = NINJA--


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Mousepotato on September 01, 2011, 09:03:25 PM
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.  I'm pretty sure I just said that Ninja isn't NINJA--

"Ninja" != "NINJA--"

^ Yup.  There it is right there.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: NINJA-- on September 01, 2011, 09:14:54 PM
I thought you were saying we're the same person.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Maged on September 02, 2011, 04:25:05 AM
I know this seems kind of silly at this point, but we need all the information we can get. Could you guys post proof of payment (screenshots are preferred) as well as all correspondence (preferably timestamped, along with the relevant time zone) with Hollie and Stefanie Andrea?

Also, here's all I can reveal at this time:
Hollie and Stefanie Andrea were indeed both under the control of the same person throughout this issue. However, there is evidence to suggest that Hollie might have been hacked. Additionally, Hollie's signature and Personal Text was not added by any of the administrators.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: indio007 on September 02, 2011, 04:52:55 AM
Well , I didn't get ripped off ... yet. So I don't know exactly what to give you... My payment status is completed. Stefanie used Paypal Mobile app. I'm  not exactly sure how that works. The account Jung Whitley is unverified but I could have swore it was verified when he/she first did the transaction. That was on August 25,2011

For the record, Paypal is a bunch of sneaky fucks and I don't put it past them to change data ex post facto. Someone hacked my girlfriends account and ordered something. The CC charged back the money and Paypal still tried to get paid for it despite the fact that whoever hacked her account never got what they illicitly purchased. It was scammer versus scammer and Paypal still tried to get paid. They where basically trying to take $1600 for themselves!


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: NINJA-- on September 02, 2011, 05:04:56 AM
For the record, Paypal is a bunch of sneaky fucks

Agreed, paypal is just as bad as the scammers. They do whatever is in their interest. I hate that company with a passion.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: marks1976 on September 02, 2011, 05:14:48 AM
What information would you like I have all my pm's in my box for the transaction as well as paypal confirmation?


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: ampirebus on September 02, 2011, 03:42:01 PM
i have found evidence that NINJA-- is hollie. what an idiot... he didnt think we could look at all of his posts?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37170.msg456510#msg456510


mods please drop the ban hammer on this guy and all of his ips already. (not that we dont know he wont come back from VPN/proxy)....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=38451;sa=showPosts;start=60
he only posts on gambling/marketplace
he only has items for sale that cost very high prices,
he is seen talking to other known/suspected scam accounts
he is a newly registered account
he never uses or mentions escrow
he gives different information in each topic that clashes with information he posts in other topics.

i urge everyone to read all of his posts, all of hollies posts, and all of ninjas posts (without the --) and notice these things.

TL;DR DONT GET NEAR THIS SCAMMER WITH A230000000 foot pole


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: edtks86 on September 02, 2011, 07:22:56 PM
^ how did you make the connection that Ninja-- = hollie in that thread?


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Chemicalbro on September 02, 2011, 07:42:54 PM
Ninja-- is not Hollie/Ninja (no evidence at all of this anyway, unless an admin wants to comment based on ip addresses).

Stefanie Andrea is the purported and confirmed to be alter account of Hollie/Ninja by an admin. Maybe this person has other accounts as well, but Ninja-- is likely just another member.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: NINJA-- on September 02, 2011, 08:37:26 PM
i have found evidence that NINJA-- is hollie.
Your wrong. But thats OK, Im not mad at you. Im going to explain myself to you and this forum one time. After this Im going to ignore you.


> he only posts on gambling/marketplace
I like the marketplace. I posted in gambling once. That doesnt make me a criminal. I mostly trade on CL but Im limited to local sales. I trade on ebay sometimes but I hate the fees and I hate paypal even more. When I started mining I realized I could skip ebay and paypal so I started selling here for BTC. Thats why I post alot in the marketplace.


> he only has items for sale that cost very high prices.
You must have missed these.....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39802.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39129.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38988.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40145.0


> he is seen talking to other known/suspected scam accounts.
Several people talked to this person. Does that mean they are all guilty too or just me?


> he is a newly registered account.
Everybody has a new account when they first sign up. You have nothing with this one. Try again.


> he never uses or mentions escrow
And I NEVER will. BTC or cash pickup only.


> he gives different information in each topic that clashes with information he posts in other topics.
You didnt give us any examples.


My feedback so far.....
5870 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37170.0;all
four 5830 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40331.0


The definition of speculation..... A guess: expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Mousepotato on September 02, 2011, 08:41:26 PM
Who is James Salinas?


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: shakaru on September 02, 2011, 08:48:29 PM
Ninja-- has sent me cards without any problem. Last one showed up YESTEDAY! On time. Diffrent ninja


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Maged on September 05, 2011, 03:26:18 PM
I know this seems kind of silly at this point, but we need all the information we can get. Could you guys post proof of payment (screenshots are preferred) as well as all correspondence (preferably timestamped, along with the relevant time zone) with Hollie and Stefanie Andrea?
I still need this information.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: haploid23 on September 05, 2011, 09:35:55 PM
I know this seems kind of silly at this point, but we need all the information we can get. Could you guys post proof of payment (screenshots are preferred) as well as all correspondence (preferably timestamped, along with the relevant time zone) with Hollie and Stefanie Andrea?

hmm what's the point? not like much can be reversed. here's a screenshot of paypal payment from stefanie. several people sent money to this same paypal address that was supposedly Hollie's paypal account, so even without checking IPs and stuff, they are the same person.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7552/capturemex.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/capturemex.jpg/)


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: indio007 on September 05, 2011, 11:09:55 PM
I haven't seen any evidence that the Paypal Stefanie use (Jung Whitley) is the same Paypal account Hollie/Ninja accepted funds at. So far it's just hearsay. It could be true. I  just haven't seen any evidence.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: marks1976 on September 05, 2011, 11:29:27 PM
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Transaction Details
   
A claim has been filed against this transaction. Visit the Resolution Center for the latest information

      
Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID # 89L36459WX7447731)

Original Transaction
 Date    Type    Status    Details    Amount
 Aug 24, 2011   Payment For Yung Whitley    Completed    ...   -$205.00 USD

Related Transaction
 Date    Type    Status    Details    Amount
 Aug 24, 2011   Add Funds from a Bank Account    Completed    Details   $108.83 USD
Total:   $0.00 USD

Sent to:   
   Yung Whitley    (The recipient of this payment is Unverified)
Email:   
   z3rohourx@gmail.com

Amount sent:   
   -$205.00 USD
Fee amount:   
   $0.00 USD
Net amount:   
   -$205.00 USD

Date:   
   Aug 24, 2011
Time:   
   21:33:40 PDT
Status:    
   Completed

Subject:   
   
You have sent $205.00 USD to Yung Whitley with PayPal
Note:   
   

Funding Type:   
   PayPal Balance and Instant Transfer

This transaction is subject to a buyer Complaint, Chargeback or an Unauthorized Claim. Go to the Resolution Center to resolve this issue.



Here is Payment I sent to Hollie/Ninja.  I don't know how to screen capture or I would have.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: indio007 on September 05, 2011, 11:48:45 PM
At first glance mine was sent from Jung  Whitley not Yung Whitley. It is the identical email address though.


Here's the mail....
Quote
Jung Whitley sent you $205.00 USD

Hello xxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com,

Just thought you'd like to know Jung Whitley sent you $205.00 USD.

Note from Jung Whitley:
Sent using the PayPal Mobile application

On further inspection the transaction is Yung Whitley!
It is quite a coincidence that the amounts are exactly the same 1 day apart.

Quote
Mobile Payment Received (Unique Transaction ID # 7R992151SW165325N)

Sent by:   
Yung Whitley    (The sender of this payment is Unverified)
Payment sent to:
    
************@gmail.com

Total amount:   
$205.00 USD
Fee amount:   
$0.00 USD
Net amount:   
$205.00 USD


Issue a refund
    
You have up to 60 days to refund the payment.

Date:   
Aug 25, 2011
Time:   
13:16:20 PDT
Status:   
Completed

Subject:   
Yung Whitley has just sent you $205.00 USD with PayPal
Note:   
Sent using the PayPal Mobile application
Payment type:   
Instant


I  seriously seems like info is changing over time though. I could have swore the first time he was verified and paid out of a bank account. I would have never done it otherwise because I had another buyer with BTC.

Paypal is probably trying to cover their ass after the complaint they got.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: haploid23 on September 06, 2011, 12:07:29 AM
At first glance mine was sent from Jung  Whitley not Yung Whitley. It is the identical email address though.

wtf? ok no.... this person is changing the paypal info and i'm 100% certain of this. when i first posted all this HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39124.msg494329#msg494329), the "Jung Whitley" as well as all the other info was copy and pasted, so therefore it was not a typing error. and now i also noticed from my screenshot that the name is now changed to "Yung Whitley". so it's not just your mind playing tricks on you, this person is changing his/her info on paypal. just like how he changed his forum name from Ninja to Hollie.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: marks1976 on September 06, 2011, 12:43:08 AM
At first glance mine was sent from Jung  Whitley not Yung Whitley. It is the identical email address though.

wtf? ok no.... this person is changing the paypal info and i'm 100% certain of this. when i first posted all this HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39124.msg494329#msg494329), the "Jung Whitley" as well as all the other info was copy and pasted, so therefore it was not a typing error. and now i also noticed from my screenshot that the name is now changed to "Yung Whitley". so it's not just your mind playing tricks on you, this person is changing his/her info on paypal. just like how he changed his forum name from Ninja to Hollie.

I agree with this statement.  It did say Jung Whitley before.  When I talked with Paypal they had this person already on radar for scams so I hope someone puts a stop to it.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Chemicalbro on September 06, 2011, 02:08:57 AM
I also find it strange that we have called out Stefanie Andrea and this person hasn't even defended themselves...even though this person posts on almost every thread.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: abracadabra on September 06, 2011, 02:29:56 AM
Would be nice to clarify the Stephanie Andrea situation.  The user is selling some stuff here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41692.0

  Would hate to see another member scammed.



Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Chemicalbro on September 06, 2011, 02:36:40 AM
It's my belief that this is the *good* account that this person doesn't want to flag as a scammer. Yet.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: marks1976 on September 06, 2011, 02:40:04 AM
It's my belief that this is the *good* account that this person doesn't want to flag as a scammer. Yet.

Still fully agree.  I am not sure how to get things resolved or how to make it better.  But in the depressed state of world why rip off people.  Especially in your own community.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: enygma on September 06, 2011, 04:52:06 PM
I haven't seen any evidence that the Paypal Stefanie use (Jung Whitley) is the same Paypal account Hollie/Ninja accepted funds at. So far it's just hearsay. It could be true. I  just haven't seen any evidence.
It is. I've had dealings with Ninja/Hollie and sent payment to that address, and I can also confirm that the name was Jung Whitley before being changed to Yung Whitley.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: senbonzakura on September 06, 2011, 08:18:48 PM
ninja / hollie = shift ?



Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: kpriess on September 06, 2011, 08:37:49 PM
ninja / hollie = shift ?



Yes, and others..


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: senbonzakura on September 06, 2011, 09:26:59 PM
ninja / hollie = shift ?



Yes, and others..

thank you, can you tell me the other names please ?


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Maged on September 07, 2011, 01:12:38 AM
Without further evidence, I'm afraid that I will have to remove Stefanie Andrea from this investigation. If you have any information about Stefanie Andrea, I need to know it as soon as possible.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Maged on September 07, 2011, 02:45:23 AM
And the plot thickens...
Stefanie isn't Ninja/Hollie. Hollie emailed me from htaylo24@yahoo.co.uk trying to sell me this touchpad, and I felt that she was trying to scam me.

I have found this information about her:
MySpace:
Email: htaylo24@gmail.com
Password: frankie1
IP Address: 71.21.81.140 (probably a proxy)
Ladies and gentlemen, it turns out that this guy (Pearikay) is also an alt of Hollie/SHlFT, trying to spread misinformation. Now knowing this, look back at these threads:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=32263.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41692.msg510234#msg510234


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Maged on September 07, 2011, 02:58:54 AM
Without further evidence, I'm afraid that I will have to remove Stefanie Andrea from this investigation. If you have any information about Stefanie Andrea, I need to know it as soon as possible.
Stefanie Andrea is now back under investigation.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: abracadabra on September 07, 2011, 03:15:40 AM
And the plot thickens...
Stefanie isn't Ninja/Hollie. Hollie emailed me from htaylo24@yahoo.co.uk trying to sell me this touchpad, and I felt that she was trying to scam me.

I have found this information about her:
MySpace:
Email: htaylo24@gmail.com
Password: frankie1
IP Address: 71.21.81.140 (probably a proxy)
Ladies and gentlemen, it turns out that this guy (Pearikay) is also an alt of Hollie/SHlFT, trying to spread misinformation. Now knowing this, look back at these threads:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=32263.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41692.msg510234#msg510234

Wow... just wow... who needs tv when you have all the drama you need right here...  :D

Makes you wonder how many more aliases this guy/gal has lieing in wait, or building them up right now as we speak.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Chemicalbro on September 07, 2011, 03:22:13 AM
Pearikay also started messaging me in the same fashion all his other accounts did out of the blue. Wonder how many he's got going...


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: enygma on September 07, 2011, 03:05:57 PM
Well, looks like all the users that have messaged me re: buying MtGox USD for paypal USD are now listed in this thread.

  • Ninja/Hollie I actually did make a transaction with and am now in appeals with Paypal to reverse the transaction
  • Stefanie Andrea offered but I declined both because I was currently trying to resolve Ninja/Hollie, and the transaction would take longer than I liked
  • Pearikay messaged the following day asking if I was still looking to buy MtGox USD. I declined citing that I was being scammed by Ninja/Hollie. I also received a PM out of the blue from this user just staating, "Hello", to which I responded... "Hi"
As mentioned, I'm still in dispute with Paypal on the Ninja/Hollie/Jung/Yung Whitley account. For some reason Paypal had closed the case without communication from either party and went ahead and deducted my credit card for $300 USD (I even put a stop payment through my bank to prevent the transaction from taking place). I opened an appeal with Paypal on the transaction as I'm now still out the $300 plus the $10 it cost me to put a stop payment on the transaction. If this drags out, then I'll probably be looking at interest on the $300 as well.


Title: Re: BRAND NEW HP TOUCHPAD!!! STILL IN SEALED BOX
Post by: Maged on September 07, 2011, 05:11:37 PM
We are consolidating all of this information here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=42084.0