Title: Scammer Label Post by: bbit on August 26, 2011, 11:21:34 PM when someone gets labeled like this on the forum is it for real or what is this?
========================================= http://www.supportsean.com/screenshot.jpg Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: SgtSpike on August 26, 2011, 11:22:21 PM when someone gets labeled like this on the forum is it for real or what is this? It's when someone is proven to be a scammer.========================================= http://www.supportsean.com/screenshot.jpg Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: bbit on August 26, 2011, 11:23:07 PM when someone gets labeled like this on the forum is it for real or what is this? It's when someone is proven to be a scammer.========================================= http://www.supportsean.com/screenshot.jpg wow! that is pretty intense thanks! ;D edit: who determines this? Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: Sannyasi on August 26, 2011, 11:27:18 PM edit: who determines this? people who got scammed mostly...... Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: bbit on August 26, 2011, 11:28:16 PM edit: who determines this? people who got scammed mostly...... so a group of people called the scammer out and the mod's change their status? Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: FAtlas on August 26, 2011, 11:40:36 PM edit: who determines this? people who got scammed mostly...... so a group of people called the scammer out and the mod's change their status? Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: Maged on August 27, 2011, 12:08:41 AM edit: who determines this? people who got scammed mostly...... so a group of people called the scammer out and the mod's change their status? Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: FreeMoney on August 27, 2011, 12:32:26 AM It would be awesome to make the scammer mark invisible to the scammer so they keep on longer than optimal with the same account.
Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: bitstarter on August 27, 2011, 12:42:18 AM It would be awesome to make the scammer mark invisible to the scammer so they keep on longer than optimal with the same account. +1 Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: theymos on August 27, 2011, 03:46:05 AM edit: who determines this? Administrators. It would be awesome to make the scammer mark invisible to the scammer so they keep on longer than optimal with the same account. The idea is to give them an opportunity to defend themselves or make things right. I have removed the status a couple of times after the users paid back their victims. I instituted this system because people were pressuring me a lot to ban scammers, which I was unwilling to do. I do not want to be the final arbiter in these matters. So I created this status to warn potential victims without preventing the scammer from defending himself. People marked as scammers are also unable to delete/edit any of their posts or modify their profiles, and their IP addresses are banned from creating new accounts. Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: max in montreal on August 27, 2011, 04:31:40 AM Quote I have removed the status a couple of times after the users paid back their victims. If I am dealing with someone I would like to know their history if possible If someone tried to scam someone they are a scammer, regardless if they got caught or not. Just because they paid back what they stole does not make them an angel. Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: SgtSpike on August 27, 2011, 06:21:44 AM Quote I have removed the status a couple of times after the users paid back their victims. If I am dealing with someone I would like to know their history if possible If someone tried to scam someone they are a scammer, regardless if they got caught or not. Just because they paid back what they stole does not make them an angel. Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: makomk on August 28, 2011, 12:00:47 PM When I see people with a scammer tag, I'm inclined to ask them how they got it and give benefit of the doubt. I'm sure theymos and the mods are much better these days at getting to the bottom of things and dealing with issues of reported scams on the forum, but a little reminder that even I was once a 'proven scammer'. Look how accurate that turned out to be ::) You agreed a contract with someone to do some work in exchange for a bitcoin, didn't pay once they did the work for you, and then publicly stated you weren't going to pay. In fact, that seems to be one of the usual ways of getting a scammer tag around here...Edit: Oh, and you've since changed your name in order to disassociate yourself from that. Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: Gabi on August 28, 2011, 02:45:00 PM Quote and their IP addresses are banned from creating new accounts. Incoming epic fail then. Do you know "dynamic IP"? The thing that everytime you connect to the internet you get a NEW ip? Now, how the "ip address ban" can work with this? The only result you achieve is that some unlucky guy eventually use a banned ip and wonder why he cannot register here. While the scammer of course has another ip and create a new account without problems. Ah, americans think everyone has fixed IPs... ::) Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: Gabi on August 28, 2011, 02:52:31 PM Now, that makes sense
Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: theymos on August 28, 2011, 06:21:20 PM Do you know "dynamic IP"? The thing that everytime you connect to the internet you get a NEW ip? Now, how the "ip address ban" can work with this? The only result you achieve is that some unlucky guy eventually use a banned ip and wonder why he cannot register here. While the scammer of course has another ip and create a new account without problems. Dynamic IPs are not totally random. I often block the entire range. Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: Gabi on August 29, 2011, 10:55:18 AM Then you end blocking a lot of people. Others can end up having my ip one day and i can end up having their one day...
Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: Yuusha on August 30, 2011, 01:48:58 AM Then you end blocking a lot of people. Others can end up having my ip one day and i can end up having their one day... Thats unlikely for a small block range unless you're connecting in from a cyber cafe, school or library. Here are some IPs I've recorded lately that my network has been assigned: 188.126.89.200 109.58.31.237 188.126.85.54 Do you see a pattern? Sure, you could ban the whole 188.126.X.X range, but you'd end up banning a lot of innocent people, and there's also that 109.58.31.237 IP address... so I'd still be able to access the site without even having to use any form of proxy. And hey, if that one gets banned too, I could just restart my router! Going around banning IP-addresses is no longer effective. It may have been 10+ years ago, but not now. Title: Re: Scammer Label Post by: Gabi on August 30, 2011, 02:40:09 PM I had dynamic IP 10 years ago too :D
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