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Our features

• 0% House Edge
• Earn rewards as you play
• Daily, Weekly & Monthly Leaderboard ranking system that pays out to the Top 3
• Refund system
• Instant deposits (0 Confirmations required)
• User friendly interface
• Customer support
• More features coming soon

What makes us different

• Zeusdice offer all users a chance to get a refund on bets. Bets that are entitled for a refund are as follows. The 12th consecutive losing bets and all bets after will be eligible for a refund. The bets must be 50% or over chance with any amount of BTC wagered. The bets must be of the same percentage chance. Example of this is 12 or more losing consecutive bets @ 50% chance with any amount of BTC wagered
• There are 2 types of rewards. One type is the points system the other type is the leaderboards system. The points system works on how much you bet. The leaderboard system is split into 3 parts, Daily, Weekly and Monthly leaderboards. The system works on how much points a player has based on points system. For the daily leaderboard only the top 3 get paid, Weekly top 3 get paid and Monthly only the number one player with the highest points gets paid.

Happy Gambling!!!


If you have any problems or issues contact us on our site or on bitcointalk.

hello,

just signed up. username: omahapoker


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i followed you on twitter. bitcoin2pac


thanks

Thanks for following your account has been updated just refresh page.

You are basically running a -EV casino given this: http://zeusdice.com/info/verification and rewards etc.

This seems unrealistic, what's the catch? Anyone could clean your website over time given the fact that you are 0 edge and refund 10 loss streaks. Also what is your max bet?

There is no catch.. the URL you gave above will be changed shortly that was suppose to be changed a few weeks ago when we where creating pages. currently the max is 0.01 BTC as our Bank is low. Max bet will be increased over time.

Followed as @lyoko111111
username:mexxer

0.0001 has been added to your account.

Thanks for following.

zero edge that's better than 999dice lol

I guess this will be for short-term until the site get some popularity. haha perhaps the next site will offer a -1% house edge :P

Looks good. Nice concept.

just followed with @XhsS

Account: pietje
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-1% edge

1% edge for players ? LOL

I don't get the point of running a 0% edge casino that even gives some rewards, unless the 0% edge is temporary.

Could you please explain this point? Does it mean that if I lose 11 consecutive bets, you return what is bet the 11th time? No matter how much is bet? And then is the count reset or would I get a refund if I lose the 12th roll?

Also deposit isn't working. When I put a different amount that 0.1BTC, the deposit window closes.

You guys have one of the more cleaner interfaces for a dice site. + The signup was easy. Rolled a few times. Just won a little bit, I guess I gotta wait a couple hours to withdraw. Thanks for the games.

Sure does... Do they claim to be provably fair?

Sent you a my addess on twitter(@ponzicrashdfs) address:13ZXg5mftdNTnQG3jCkfqhe8QB5hosa7rT

The 0% edge and the refund feature seem to good to be true, If I get my twitter bonus i'll give it a shot though!

So if i'm gambling and making a bunch of rolls at 50% of varying amounts if at any time I roll 10 losses in a row those 10 losses all get refunded?

Yes. At least that's what the site says.

How to view the provable fairness?

following you on twitter i'm @Gio933

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nick: Hova

Thanks

Your account has been funded sorry for the delay.

Yes as long as its in the same %chance

At the moment you can't thats why we are offering refunds on certain bets.

How often do the leaderboards update? They don't seem to be current.

So far 0% is going to be permanent for at least 6months. If we decide to increase it we will notify our users and make it public.  

Note that there appears to be a 2 hour wait for withdrawals.

Currently you have to refresh page to update the leaderboard.. we are going to fix this.

sorry for the inconvenience.

This is to help us verify all deposits so no double spending is detected.

You will be eligible for all bets past 10 so 11th 12th 13th etc...  

How exactly would you make money offering a game with a ~.02% player edge?

Pretty sure this game isn't fair. Based on the absurdity of offering a game with a player edge and how fast I'm losing units.

please log out and in. If the issue occurs please contact us and we will look into it.

Just like any other Dice site we make money when users lose. We are offering refunds for losing bets. So far 5 have been given out.

Thanks  ;D

I sincerely wish you luck with your site and it is always interesting to see new competitors on the btc gaming landscape.

However, I wish you would answer this a little more clearly.  How are you going to be able to sustain your casino without a house edge?  Are you going to sell advertisements?  Allow player investment (like Just-Dice) does so you don't care?  (But if it's that, how can you pay rewards?)  Sell player information? 

Without some ability to sustain your casino it will fail - or - people will think you are going to cheat them somehow, so no reason not to explain a little bit more.

The only 0 edge site that seemed legit was peerbet and it's owner wound up selling it to a new owner who quickly added games with a house advantage.  (And did a lot of other cool stuff too!)  So again, you may want to share some of your business plan if you don't want people to be suspicious.

Like I said, good luck!

We are currently thinking of advertisements but that depends on traffic. We was trying to implement an investor section for users to use but we had a few bugs and just made an alternative. We cant sell player information as we have nothing to sell. Just their bitcoin address...

We are new and we are just seeing how things go for the next couple of weeks. Making customers happy, is our main priority and we dont expect to make a profit any time soon. Once we have more traffic and a better community of players with their trust gained we can start adding more stuff to our gaming system so we can eventually start to turn a profit.

Thanks for your concern. 

And thank you for answering my questions!  So basically right now you're basically getting the kinks worked out and hope to pay your expenses with ads or new games in the future.  Thanks again!

Yeah pretty much. Our aim like i said was to get traffic and the only way we knew how to was to do something crazy. Something unexpected make everyone curious. A few dice sites out there which are pretty much the same so we had to just think about making the users time more enjoyable/profitable at our expense.

Couple weeks time we should be launching a bigger project if everything goes to plan. ;)

 

Either you are not very smart or you think we are dumb enough to believe this.

It was a Firefox issue, it works well with Google Chrome.

Your website says that "Once a member of our team has reviewed your ticket your account will be refunded with all 10 of your losing bets". So that's the first 10, not those past the first 10.

It also isn't clear whether you can bet different amounts, just the same chance.

Sorry for not being clear this will be updated. Thanks for pointing this out.

You've created a martingale heaven. A few martingalers on your site with enough bankroll to sustain a large losing streak will bankrupt you site before you know it. And with the Refund feature, martingalers are immune to losses. Investors will not invest in it, as there can't be any profit, because of the 0% house edge. You can't survive 6 months like this, you may not survive even a month. I would advise to really think how you will sustain this, where your bottom line will come from as currently it is unrealistic to think this site will survive the winter.

Right.

I think the owner of ZeusDice.com needs to rethink his strategies. Because honestly, there are only two possible scenarios here:

1. The game is not fair and the owner is ripping off users to make a profit.
2. The site will go out of business long before the owner creates a monetization strategy to fairly profit off his website.

If its a martingale heaven we have created we welcome all users who play using martingale to play. We are still a new site and i agree we will soon have to think about making a profit. For now like i mentioned earlier its just about getting more traffic to our site along with loyal members.

1. So far we have given out 11 refunds and so far no complaints about the gameplay. Only complaints we have had are about the wording of the refund page which will be changed today and a deposit issue which has now been resolved by the user.

2. Like i mentioned before we are not expecting to make a profit anytime soon.

The standard deviation of a coin toss is 0.5, right?

Yep

You have 22000 rolls on your site so far, and you have already had 11 losing streaks of 10 or more losses in a row. Can a mathematician jump in for a minute and calculate the odds?

You definitely need provable fairness on your dice site.

Like we said before we are taking a new approach to bitcoin gambling hence the reason we currently offer refunds. All the users seem to be happy so far.

Are you currently having issues with the site?

Do we get a refund also if different amounts are bet with the same chance? For example, I lose 10 consecutive BTC0.01 bets and then I bet BTC1 and lose, would I get that BTC refunded?

All amounts will be refunded it just has to be in the same %chance. For example if you use the martingale system yout 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, etc.. will all be refunded.

So you're essentially saying that if this game is in fact fair, a smart player with a reasonably sized bankroll cannot lose?

There are so many ways to exploit this too. I can make min bets until I lose 9 times in a row, then do a max bet, knowing that even if I lose I will get this bet back. According to what you're saying, this is not a problem and you are perfectly fine with users doing this.

New approach to Bitcoin gambling.

You are free to play how you want to play. We do advise you don't play recklessly and only gamble what you can afford to lose.

All amounts of a consecutive bad streak, just the first 10 or just those after the first 10? For example, I bet and lose the following rolls at 50% chance: 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 1, 100. What would I get refunded? 101.09, 1.09 or 100?

After 10. But we may be increasing this soon.

For example, I bet and lose the following consecutive rolls at 50% chance: 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 1, 100. What would I get refunded? 101.09, 1.09 or 100?

As it stands yes

You do realize though that someone playing using a Martingale system with enough bets to cover their original bet x 512 actually cannot lose?

You may also want to correct this on your website:

"Bets that are entitled for a refund are all 10 losing consecutive bets over 50% chance will be entitled for a refund. The bets must be of the same percentage chance. Example of this is 10 losing consecutive bets @ 50% chance."

So which one is it? Over 50% chance or a 50% chance or higher?

Yes what, BTC100 (the 11th lost bet)?

50% or higher.. We make changed today thanks for pointing this out

Yes.

Hey guys just to let you know the site will be down later to make some changes.

Thanks

We are back online. The refund policy has been modified please view it to avoid confusion. All the other bugs found have also been fixed.

Enjoy.

Cannot withdraw. Error says that it must be 2hours. Have already been nearly 3hours since last deposit.

Hi, i just replied to your email. The error has come because we went offline to fix some bugs. We are going to fix this.

I didn't email you.

-EV non-provably fair casino? Seems pretty fishy.

What is your username?

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Hoya1991

Hi, please try again the issue should be resolved

On our side we can see it has been fixed can you please confirm

Could you add an option to make multiple bets with just 1 click?

Hmm so like an automated betting system?

Yes, so for example I can get 10 rolls by just clicking once at "roll dice".

Okay, that shouldn't be to hard to implement.

Anyway to make it provably fair?

We are working on this for now we have the refund policy.

It seems like the refund policy has been changed, now players need to lose 12 or more consecutive bets with 50% chance or higher.

Will they just be changin this at random times?

They have also changed the minimum bet from 0.000001 to 0.00001.

0.00001min bet, 0.01 max bet  12losing bet streak for refund
look at this : martingale 0.00001, 0.00002, 0.00004, 0.00008, 0.00016, 0.00032,0.00064, 0.00128, 0.00256, 0.00512, 0.01024. 10 bets
So, you can't ask for refund if you play martingale.

Max bet is 0.001 now.

okay lol
refund = don"t ask !

We had to lower the max bet because of our bankroll. We also made a joint decision as a team to make a minimum bet.

This site claims to have an 0% edge, and even offers some promotions that would make playing profitable (the refund policy would be very profitable with a 0% edge, as you are basically "freerolling" after losing 12 consecutive bets, and you can bet the maximum amount there).

One wonders if it's just a way to attract customers, to increase their edge in the future. Or they could profit from advertising other sites. Or maybe it's a scam. Why isn't it provably fair? Because it isn't fair.

I have played much more than enough to be able to confirm that it's false that their edge is 0%. It seems to be indeed about 10% (45% chance of winning a theoretical 50% chance roll). If you don't believe me, just try it yourselves (bet the minimum every time, so you don't lose much).

Well this is an outrageous claim coming from someone who just created an account a couple of hours ago. No provable fair yet as when making it we came across some bugs. Hence the reason we are offering refunds. Max bet lowered because our bank is running low (will be increased soon). If you had taken as must time as you did creating a new account to read what i had written above, you would know that we are still in the testing phase and trying out new things seeing how everything goes. You would also know that we do not expect to make a profit anytime soon.



Please read what i have wrote in the thread before creating accounts just to give ZeusDice a bad name. I'm guessing this just am owner of another Dice game site scared that they may lose players. (n) 

If you are going to make that claim you would have to provide some evidence to show that you have indeed made x number of bets and that their was results were y. There is always variance in dice games (hence why you don't win then lose then win then lose in an ordered fashion) and that you only approach the 50% win mark as you approach an infinite number of bets. So you'd need an extremely large sample space to prove what your claiming.

Im following you on twitter. 
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Following: sergiomatt

BTC Address: .......jLGFJ

Thanks for free play

Account has been funded

I made a deposit and I have not received it in my account. I have tried contacting you through your email and twitter, but no response.
My order confirmation number is 3OCPCT51.
I have documented screenshots and payment confirmation to validate my deposit.

Really? So your wagered is 306k BTC on only 86k bets?
Feels like these numbers were generated during your early "development testing".

Also got another question.. when you choose to roll at 50% is says to roll over/under the number 50. But what happens when you roll exactly 50?

I think this site is  scam because deposit has not been addedto my account and the lack of response by owner,

You script Broken :p ,
you Need Fixed This

followed you on twitter

username: elephantas1
adress: 1BAip9UHk6z93HTEGUS5x39NsAJ3TXrDkr

BTW

BTC wagered
306,873.133620

Total bets
86,613

So average bet is 306,873.133620 / 86,613 = 3.5 btc

seems legit (NOT)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=159743
Last Active: January 06, 2014, 03:28:39 PM

OP is long gone :)

I was kind of hoping he wasn't gone.

I'd be interested in buying out zeus dice and fixing it up big time. Can anyone provide insight into this possibility? If it is more than 0 percent chance, please tell me how.

You may try to contact OP on twitter and send him a PM here, but the chance of getting a response is slim IMO.

This is OP's twitter: https://twitter.com/ZeusDice and the last tweet was made 2.5 months ago.