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This is my take as a viewer since the inception of the first Bitcoin Show episode.

Simple put: The Bitcoin Show is a FAILURE because:

1. Over exaggerated comments Bruce has made that has been shown to be untrue.
2. Lack of content.
3. Blatent censorship/ignoring of important questions (i.e. Why an Mt. Gox auditor needed the plaintext database of users).
4. Unrealistic expectations of bitcoin saying bitcoin only goes "up up up".
5. Making claims of security/decentralization being VERY IMPORTANT then having 25000 btc in one place on a third-party site.
6. Taking 20 shows to get an audio issue fixed. Seriously if you can't hear the show what's the point in watching it.

I do respect the fact that Bruce did come on-air and addressed the mybitcoin.com fiasco but that does not take away from the fact that the show he runs to promote bitcoin is a failure.

Thank whatever deity you wish, I'm glad that someone else with a higher post count voiced this opinion. It's completely true. It started out as a good show with some vision, and now it's just a mess of ego and poor judgement - IF - it even airs at all.  When he does have a show, it's a giggle fest with his laptop. I was alright with that for a while, but it's annoying to watch him interview someone while he fumbles around with his laptop paying only passing attention to his guest. It's amateur hour at its finest.

You guys should link to your favorite Bitcoin show.

Or start your own if you think you can do better.

I think people scared bruce away.  He posted on twitter that he wont be taking part in these forums anymore.

I like what Bruce and the guys did on the show for the community... As far as getting the word out. However, the editing on the show is terrible, them having their laptops open during an interview..."Yea that's not what you do ! ". I'm a communications major from Seton Hall University and i studied editing and film as my minor. Graduated now.. Thank God! Im probably going to start my own Bit Coin News show. Keep the episodes 5 to 10 min long. Nothing crazy. Just keep it straight and to the point. In my personal opinion i think we need a better spokesman for the face of Bitcoin. I'm not saying I'm the answer, but ill give it a shot. The shows have to be informative, cleaner editing, and have guests that actually matter. With a more professional look... Will attract more people to accepting Bitcoin.

Maybe so, but he'll need to engage his critics and their criticisms(ignoring the trolls) if he wishes to produce a better show/product. He does believe in bitcoin, and he's also one of the main PR activists at the moment, but he's gotta go away and polish his show and work. If he can come back with an A-Game that get's over the items complained about here, then it's better for all of us, and those that genuinely appreciate the effort will be happy to recognize this.

Main bitch on my part:
Laptop during interviews! Not on! Be professional, give your guests your full attention and engage them to get to the good stuff.

I dont think the Bit Coin show was a failure... Its just work in progress.

I added Bruce to facebook, asked him a simple question about the state of bitcoin.

What are your thoughts on the current price plumet?

After 3 of his responses asking What current market situation? and several other aloof comments saying nothing of importance or relavance

I quickly removed him from facebook..

 ::)

The show is a failure and reeks of scammy, pump-n-dump, sleaziness. Having this as the "face" of bitcoin destroys any hope of BTC having any credibility. The community's best option would have been to ignore and/or denounce him, or otherwise be very critical of the show's flaws from the start. That way the community distances itself from the show until it proves itself.

Just listen to Bruce talk about how Bitcoin will only go up and up, and the way he talks fast (like a con artist) and only says positive things about bitcoin, and focuses too much on the profitability of BTC. The studio set is straight out of the furniture catalog of what amateur con artists think will make their cheap show appear credible.

I could never even bear to watch a full episode.

I think the show was fun to watch at times. there was some very interesting announcements made.

but i have to agree that it had the feel of an armature show at times.

and it really sucked to see Bruce all depressed after the mybitcoin thing. After that, he was Bashing bitcoins sometimes.

But hey if he makes another show ill be watching it and so will you :P

Its fun to watch him GO, UP UP UP, even tho it sometimes boarders on ridiculous.... makes it fun!

I think he can do better, if not someone else will.

If you listened to the NPR audio from the other day, you'll hear Bruce state that that $25,000 wasn't his.

Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending

Oh, I see... Well, this brings up a question.

Did he lie to NPR, or did he lie to all of us? Bruce Wagner's own words on this forum after mybitcoin disappeared:


Read the whole post at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34617.msg431056#msg431056 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34617.msg431056#msg431056) if you want to.

Which implies that at least a lot of that is his own bitcoins. Honestly, though, if it was someone ELSE'S bitcoins entrusted to him that he lost that's even worse. It means someone trusted him, and he simply fobbed it off to someone else instead of trying to be the one to secure and handle the coins.

i don't think its as bad as you all describe, but its not worth my time to watch. everything i saw on the show i knew already.

This thread is a failure.

1. Pointless whining
2. Unwarranted self importance
3. Not accomplished anything
4. OP did nothing for bitcoin except justifying personal greed.
5. troll post
6. fail

I don't think I could do any better. That's not the point. We all have our strengths and Bruce obviously is in the right position just with possibly the wrong vision or attitude or outlook.

Just because we disagree with how the show is going doesn't necessarily imply we think we can do any better of a job.

I just think he could do a better job than he is currently.

Your posting here indeed describes yourself in your 6 points of failure on your part. ;D

THIS!  + 1million

I still don't see any other Bitcoin show.

Until then, I'm an OnlyOneTV fanboy.

I generally wouldn't refer to a shared account as 'mine',  but to explicitly say it's not yours when asked, I guess you could call lying by omission.

The show provides a highly visible counterpoint to claims that Bitcoin is for shady businesses. It also provides a great platform for bitcoin service providers to present themselves to the bitcoin community.

(Although I really didn't understand the episode where he had two interviewees with faces hidden. It just seemed to be a live version of some lame forum thread and the point of why these people were even worth interviewing wasn't clear.)

I'm glad the show is around to spice up the bitcoin world and draw eyeballs to issues.  (Though 'up up up' is a little too much spice for my tastes!)

Face palm.

Choose the right host or hostess.

http://www.youtipit.org/en/t/J3561   is a good host for example.

If you are looking for additional media choices:

- http://agoristradio.com (I haven't listened to all of them yet, but have not been disappointed in any one that I have heard)
- http://www.youtube.com/bitcoinmoney#g/f
- http://media.witcoin.com

Choose the right host or hostess.

http://www.youtipit.org/en/t/J3561   is a good host for example.
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I think if Praxgirl was the spokesperson for Bitcoin it would have a noticeable difference to bitcoins profile. Actually she would be perfect, she only accepts "non-fiat" donations and she is making quite a lot of tips on youtipit.

Interesting....

Hey Everyone,

 My crew and I will be making a new Bit Coin Show... Our Studio we are putting together will be based out of NJ. If their is any people within the community who would like to be on our show as a guest or send us videos in regards to your new project you have been working on... It would be greatly appreciated. Please email me at rzuchowski@btcrunner.com . Our format will be nothing like the Bit Coin Show on OneTV. 10 to 15 min shows ...  Few episodes a month. Nothing Crazy. Short and to the point...but yet informative. It's time the face of BitCoin to be more upscale and presented in a more professional manor. Hopefully in the end we will prevail to be the solution . Thanks again and look fwd to your emails.


Sincerely,
Ray Z

NOW, I will have something to watch..  good job..

Pointless thread by a pointless poster IMO....

Higher post counts mean nothing.

will there be another bitcoin show? that might be an episode i watch  :D

Bruce's message in the last show was that this forum lacks what he calls quality in content for bitcoin discussion. But I say that quality has nothing to do with it if you are bias to what people have to say about you or to you. Bruce obviously believes in censorship. If you try to add a comment to his youtube videos you will get a "comment pending approval" message.

At first I liked the show but after a while the promises Bruce kept making and some of the things he would say were flat out lies. He would flip flop on topics and views.

In one episode with Mark from mt. gox he asked Mark if it were possible that when they reopened the exchange after the hack if mechanisms could be put in place to keep the price of bitcoins from dropping below a certain dollar value. Now how surprising of a question is that given that his whole view on bitcoins was "up up up" when in the real world markets move up down up down.

Creating 50 more bitcoin conferences to end up partying with "free" alcohol will not give bitcoin any credence but may in fact take away from what bitcoin has and make bitcoin look bad.

I dont see the point of these conferences just to hang out and drink and have a good time is going to give bitcoin any more value than it already has.

Bruce needs to rethink his initial goals (if they were sound) when he created the bitcoin show. If what he wanted back then has changed then he may as well stop the show altogether and find something else to do.

I never watched it because I couldn't hear the audio. Turned it off after watching for 2 min.

Most conferences are pretty much the same... hang out and drink. You're "supposed" to be sharing ideas, socializing, and taking in info from the speakers. That could drive the value up if a good idea came out of it but that's kind of rare. The only other purpose sometimes is to advertise new products/services in whatever industry the conference is for.

She can't keep my eyes off her.

People didn't scare Bruce away.  He left because we discovered that not only does his show suck, but he's a scammer of the worst kind.

What kind of person scams someone when they are already financially devastated.... Bruce, that's who.

Its obvious he intended to defraud too:

1) He lied about having 70+ offices
2) He lied about being a 12 year member of better businees bureau
3) He by creating fake testimonials on boldfunding.com's website
4) He lied claiming that Bold Funding saved thousands of homeowners over 12 years
5) He lied about having attorneys on staff.

Direct quotes from boldfunding.com's website:

"Bold Funding has been helped many thousands of homeowners save their home, equity, and credit for the past 12 years. We have 74 regional offices representing every major city and headquartered in Chicago, IL."

"Bold Funding helps hundreds of people each and every year.  We’ve been proud members of the Better Business Bureau for 12 years, and have attorneys on staff to fight for you, but don’t let one more day slip away…  You need to call us right now!   You do not have to lose your home!   We may be able to help you save your home in as little as 21 business days…  even after the Sheriff Sale… regardless of your credit!  Call now… 1-800-567-8922."


Beware anyone defending Bruce as well, they're either scammers or delusional.

The sooner Bitcoin is rid of this filth the better.

Bruce Wagner Fraud Judgment From the Circuit Court of Cook County:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63630294/Bruce-Wagner-Bold-Funding-Fraud-Judgement (http://www.scribd.com/doc/63630294/Bruce-Wagner-Bold-Funding-Fraud-Judgement)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjV3wdXDHDk&feature=player_embedded

here you have it  ;D

^^
Classic.

#1 and #4 are spot on, the rest are a bit too whiney for a free show/service. I think Bruce's heart is in the right place but he let his eros get the best of him with dramatic claims of BTC rising exponentially and so on. This is dangerously misleading and hopefully he has learned his lesson with the price drop.

If you guys thought that the Bruce show is some sort of technical documentation, then welcome to the real world. Mass media shows are mainly about entertaining, so it always contains exaggeration, unrealistic expectations and misleading things. Maybe watch fox news for comparison - it could be that you will discover that Bruce is more accurate than some others ;)
That said, point 6 is absolutely legit

Bitcoin for charity donations!   

"We've already published the address where I can hold those bitcoins in escrow..."
  - Bruce Wagner


No problem there.     ::)

The video aspect ratio is still off... Audio I can fix by turning up the volume... I still haven't found the nob that un-distorts video aspect ratios.

Ok, now this needs to be reported to the judge overseeing his current case where he owes damages. Bruce can't actually be holding stuff in escrow, anything in his possession can be taken by the court.

This is the one that killed it for me.  I just got done setting up 7 mics for a 22-piece band in a studio and got to control the sound board for an 8 hour rehearsal.  I had no idea what I was doing because it was my first time, but everyone in the band complimented me on how well everything went.  It's not rocket science.  Show after show that Bruce and the guys did the audio was beyond terrible.  It was completely unwatchable.  You couldn't hear the guests at all in any show I watched.  At one point Bruce was holding a cordless phone up to his lapel mic that wasn't even turned on.  It was actually being recorded on a mic across the room.  At another point they were recording a Skype call...from the output of the TV speakers!!  Then it was awesome when all you saw on the video was the camera's OSD showing what settings the noob camera guy had chosen.  If you are going to set up a show like that with all the advertising and hype, at least do a little research and testing first.  Maybe hire a guy that know's what the hell he is doing?

Oh she's cute. I'd watch everything she did if she had a Bitcoin show.