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Title: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: raider150shifter on May 21, 2018, 07:41:23 AM
Recently hacked Japanese crypto exchange Coincheck will end trading for four privacy-oriented cryptocurrencies, Monero (XMR), Zcash (ZEC), Dash (DASH), and Augur (REP), Cointelegraph Japan reported May 18.

Following reports from back in March, the exchange has now officially confirmed the removal of the four anonymity-focused coins will come into effect June 18. According to Coincheck’s blog, the exchange will remove the four cryptocurrencies to comply with counter-terrorist financing (CFT) and anti-money laundering (AML) measures recently issued by Japan’s financial regulator, the Financial Services Agency (FSA).

The FSA has been especially active in regulating domestic crypto exchanges, specifically around customer protection, since Coincheck lost $532 mln in NEM in  a major hack in January of this year.

As part of its efforts, the FSA has stated that local, officially registered exchanges will face restrictions on the trading of privacy-focused altcoins, since they are more difficult to trace than cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin (BTC).

As Friday’s official statement from the exchange says, the targeted cryptocurrencies will be sold at market price and converted to Japanese yen.

Earlier this week, Monex Inc, the company that recently acquired Coincheck, revealed plans to expand the exchange to the U.S., claiming that the U.S. and Europe are more advanced than Japan in terms of regulatory clarity and “attracting institutional investors” to crypto.

read more at https://cointelegraph.com/news/hacked-crypto-exchange-coincheck-confirms-removal-of-four-anonymity-focused-altcoins


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: pey on May 21, 2018, 08:22:24 AM
I think that will only affect privacy coins, it is difficult for regulators to accept such coins but as there are many decentralized exchanges, that will not turn a big problem in the future.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: Donovan XXL on May 21, 2018, 08:27:16 AM
That's old news and it will only affect privacy coins, not the whole market.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: supermine on May 21, 2018, 08:34:11 AM
I think that will only affect privacy coins, it is difficult for regulators to accept such coins but as there are many decentralized exchanges, that will not turn a big problem in the future.
Yes,it may only affect that four crypto currencies which was removed from the exchange so it will help for the increase in the price of bitcoin.But Japan is one of the important country for the crypto currencies but the population of Japan is very less and it may have little contribution with those four coins that OP was mentioned so I am also think that this may not have big impact.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: robertkamerer on May 21, 2018, 08:40:38 AM
Always a risky thing investing in privacy coins, as you'll at some point most probably go against the government.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: 1Referee on May 21, 2018, 08:43:53 AM
Prepare for the wave, it was and is more than obvious that governments don't like privacy focused coins, which is exactly why I am of believe that eventually, these coins will be outlawed, and it's perfect because they will become only tradable through decentralized platforms. What's the purpose of a privacy focused coin if you buy it through a centralized exchange? It makes zero sense.

People quite often complain that Bitcoin is lacking privacy features, but they don't realize that the lack of privacy on Bitcoin's side is exactly what helps it move forward in a heavily regulated market.

Yes,it may only affect that four crypto currencies which was removed from the exchange so it will help for the increase in the price of bitcoin.
How exactly will this help increase the price of Bitcoin? At worst these coins will be dumped for Bitcoin, which means that more Bitcoins will end up on the market than previously.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: asyakashi on May 21, 2018, 09:15:33 AM
Very bad I think this information is not fud, hopefully this incident does not impact too long and the government was able to reveal the perpetrators and arrested him.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: palle11 on May 21, 2018, 09:48:17 AM
This information wouldn't be a problem to the market. It is an issue of exchange delisting coin and moreover, bitcoin is not affected. Thus, it will appear as if nothing happened in the cmc.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: TravelMug on May 21, 2018, 10:14:22 AM
I think this is forthcoming so I don't considering this a big blow to the market, although there are still exchanges that are willing to trade privacy coins though, but it's pretty obvious that government doesn't want any of this crypto at their backyard.

If there is a dump for sure those coins that are mentioned, but if those holders shifts it to other exchanges then I don't see any big dent of the current marketcap. So I guess, short term effect will be felt, but it will not last and people will go back to the market after after dumping it.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: justin86 on May 21, 2018, 12:37:27 PM
Those coins give no fuck about this news, just few speculators try to make people dump those coins, because those exchanges are not the only one trading privacy coins, there are many alternatives.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: TTITA on May 21, 2018, 12:57:25 PM
I think that will only affect privacy coins, it is difficult for regulators to accept such coins but as there are many decentralized exchanges, that will not turn a big problem in the future.
Yes,it may only affect that four crypto currencies which was removed from the exchange so it will help for the increase in the price of bitcoin.But Japan is one of the important country for the crypto currencies but the population of Japan is very less and it may have little contribution with those four coins that OP was mentioned so I am also think that this may not have big impact.
With many consideration, that maybe good decision to takes by Coincheck, even it could be bad news for those privates coins dev, and that money majority will turn into Bitcoin as Japan was big support for Bitcoin, so it should increasing for Bitcoin demand, hope so.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: supermine on May 21, 2018, 01:06:06 PM
Yes,it may only affect that four crypto currencies which was removed from the exchange so it will help for the increase in the price of bitcoin.
How exactly will this help increase the price of Bitcoin? At worst these coins will be dumped for Bitcoin, which means that more Bitcoins will end up on the market than previously.
Those who invested on that coin will now look to convert their coins into some other coins so probably bitcoin will be the most people's choice so when they are converting them into it which means the demand will increase and also the price will be.Am I right?


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: Pursuer on May 21, 2018, 02:59:37 PM
whenever a news like that comes out, it will either affect the price of said coins immediately or not at all. and that means when the news came out before the price of these coins should have dropped hard which has not happened and now it is too late for it to happen.
in other words the news didn't have the effect that you thought it might have because people didn't pay any attention to it.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 21, 2018, 03:05:02 PM
Meh.  Japan is just one country out of more than 200 in the world, and I've never even heard of this exchange before.  The only coin among those that were listed is Dash, and it's still close to $400--that's not bad, as I recall very clearly a time when it was under $4.

Crypto never quite reacts the way you'd think about news like this, especially news about exchanges going out of business/dropping coins/scamming.  Most of the exchanges are shady anyway, and news that they're gone doesn't really affect the underlying coins much.

So if you're doing something silly like shorting these coins in anticipation of a drop, good luck with that.  Make sure you cover your positions before you lose too much.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: matthewoz101 on May 21, 2018, 04:23:29 PM
Prepare for the wave, it was and is more than obvious that governments don't like privacy focused coins, which is exactly why I am of believe that eventually, these coins will be outlawed, and it's perfect because they will become only tradable through decentralized platforms. What's the purpose of a privacy focused coin if you buy it through a centralized exchange? It makes zero sense.

People quite often complain that Bitcoin is lacking privacy features, but they don't realize that the lack of privacy on Bitcoin's side is exactly what helps it move forward in a heavily regulated market.

Yes,it may only affect that four crypto currencies which was removed from the exchange so it will help for the increase in the price of bitcoin.
How exactly will this help increase the price of Bitcoin? At worst these coins will be dumped for Bitcoin, which means that more Bitcoins will end up on the market than previously.

Governments hate privacy coins. Without the assets being traced, how can they tax? They can't. Decentralized exchanges makes much more sense and can't be stopped by the governments or laws thankfully.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: RoftheN on May 21, 2018, 04:37:33 PM
So you expect that the market will dump cause four privacy based coins are going to no longer be trading on an hacked exchange in Japan. Does this even makes any sense to you? Do you think that the crypto market is so small that it will start dumping based on this small news. You must be new to the crypto market.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: btyco on May 21, 2018, 05:41:37 PM
It's not sad news, it will not affect the market unless you are holding those particular coins. Also, it is just one exchange which is delisting those coins, anyone who really wishes to purchase monero, dash, zcash, or augur can simply use another one to buy them


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: Mahanton on May 21, 2018, 05:51:31 PM
I think that will only affect privacy coins, it is difficult for regulators to accept such coins but as there are many decentralized exchanges, that will not turn a big problem in the future.
Yes,it may only affect that four crypto currencies which was removed from the exchange so it will help for the increase in the price of bitcoin.But Japan is one of the important country for the crypto currencies but the population of Japan is very less and it may have little contribution with those four coins that OP was mentioned so I am also think that this may not have big impact.
With many consideration, that maybe good decision to takes by Coincheck, even it could be bad news for those privates coins dev, and that money majority will turn into Bitcoin as Japan was big support for Bitcoin, so it should increasing for Bitcoin demand, hope so.
If they took off privacy coins then its their own jurisdiction and choice the thing on here being mentioned which I don't really see any reason for it to cause a market dump.Even though it might able to contribute into fundamentals which might give some negative views then its possible but as being said Japan is only a small populated country which I do expect volume is just lesser if they are removing it,then let it be as long for those traders who are on that exchange and possess such coins then better to short it out.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: carter34 on May 21, 2018, 08:02:25 PM
Those coins give no fuck about this news, just few speculators try to make people dump those coins, because those exchanges are not the only one trading privacy coins, there are many alternatives.

That is the issue with privacy coins. Although these are part of top coins but it won't make much impact because options are there in almost all the exchanges.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: aardvark15 on May 21, 2018, 08:12:16 PM
Luckily i currently don’t hold any of those coins. However, we are seeing a correction in the cryptocurrency markets today and it is possible that this is affecting the entire market.

We have seen many times in the past that any negative news reports about a cryptocurrency can trigger a short term sell off for other coins as well. This seems to add to the volatility of cryptocurrency price because investors are very cautious.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: doomloop on May 21, 2018, 08:29:12 PM
It's not sad news, it will not affect the market unless you are holding those particular coins. Also, it is just one exchange which is delisting those coins, anyone who really wishes to purchase monero, dash, zcash, or augur can simply use another one to buy them
This is not a sad news of course in terms of loosing money because you will not loose until you act foolishly or impatiently. The assumption is that you are a rational individual in the market and you know which move to make keeping the market condition in the mind and in case you make the good moves in the market game, you will never loose the money so no need to be sad about it.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: DaMut on May 21, 2018, 08:31:03 PM
So you expect that the market will dump cause four privacy based coins are going to no longer be trading on an hacked exchange in Japan. Does this even makes any sense to you? Do you think that the crypto market is so small that it will start dumping based on this small news. You must be new to the crypto market.

how about he was expecting those coin to get dumped when people heard those news ?
it is very clear that he was talking about those privacy coin and potential dump that might happens with them.also,if we are looking back at our history we should know the fact that cryptocurrency's market was unstable.whenever we heard something bad about it,the price moved down a little bit much and then regained its price again in the next few weeks later.

but it's just matter of time until people use a Decentralized Exchange.
slowly but surely this thing will happens(or should i say it already happened,right ? just look at cryptobridge for example).


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: renes on May 21, 2018, 09:08:14 PM
I don't hold any of these privacy coins, privacy coins are not good investments for me, I would use them if only I need to store high amount of money, would probably use monero because it is stable.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: wayaneka on July 23, 2018, 10:07:43 AM
When any bad news, we dont know the update as soon as possible because we are not possible monitoring the market in 24 hours aday, so to avoid bigger loss from bad news like hack of exchanges, we should always use trigger order as stop loss and trailling stop so we can left the open potition without worry. And also we can buy back at cheaper price so we recover loss faster. 


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: richcorner100 on October 11, 2018, 02:28:35 AM
Crypto dump again just now, and i dont know what is the news. Iam really tired waiting for bull market. Iam loss much money in crypto and i dont know when i can recover it.  But i try to keep patient and i beleive there are any hope for bull market.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: binhvo1505 on October 11, 2018, 02:51:35 AM
These are the currencies that have provided vulnerabilities for security. That was bad but the altcoins should be kicked off the trading floor. It has caused many trading floors to collapse due to hacker attacks. I think this is the correct decision of Coincheck.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: nur rochid on October 11, 2018, 03:07:53 AM
Crypto dump again just now, and i dont know what is the news. Iam really tired waiting for bull market. Iam loss much money in crypto and i dont know when i can recover it.  But i try to keep patient and i beleive there are any hope for bull market.
i see market today too shocked. whether news is what happened this time, but indeed we must be more patient and do not worsen situation by panic sell. but this is time to buy it on a large scale at a cheap price


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
Post by: metribitcoin on November 17, 2018, 01:47:19 AM
All price of crypto dump hard and this is beyond my prediction, in this year is most bad thing for crypto market compared previous year, alot of FUD and bad news was exist , but i still believe this situation will changed and bull run will start again.


Title: Re: sad news, prepare for dump
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