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Hi,
Yesterday my friend caled me and said that one of our mining equipment was on fire, while they sleep.
he woke up and then had to air out the apartment for 3 hours

Now when i think about it its crazy that people have high voltage equipment, that is getting realy hot, AT HOME?

From now i will have the equipment in a server room.


Are you guys think about the fire hazard with mining equipment?

Sorry for posting in group buys, please move to mining.

Preventative maintenance and monitoring.  Right wires for the right current, check to be sure, and regularly monitor.

But "high voltage?"  Not so much.  ;)

A smoke/fire alarm isn't that expensive.  They are lucky fire didn't spread while they slept.

make me kind of worry about all my machines and miners running 24/7 om ups and getting hot now

Just to clarify, those aren't high voltage. You can call them high wattage, or amperage.

Pictures?

another reason for going cloud mining... Nothing is worth losing your loved ones...

yeah, had a fire alarm lying around and put it in cellar at the first day

still searching for a automatic halon extinguisher but hard to get these

Ha interestingly I put all my mining equipment in my fire place.  I live in an apartment with not a lot of space so it was a no brainer.  If it catches fire hopefully it'll just be self contained and doesn't travel down the ethernet/power cords and catch anything else on fire.  I do have a smoke alarm and extinguisher near by, but I still get slightly worried if I take a trip out of town.

I am less worried though about the asics than I was with GPUs, I was always afraid a fan would fail and the thing would go up.

I think more than likely gear will smoke out as opposed to turning into a ball of fire. 

Any potential hazard is the responsibility of the owner (you).

I have about 20,000 watts at my home and sleep safe every night. Each of the outlets is GFCI and 20 amps. I have fire suppression systems on the ceiling and walls that won't damage electronics. Everything is on racks on a concrete floor with 10,000 CFM of air constantly circulating. I use 18 AWG power cables to each PSU(850 to 1300 watts each). Everything runs cool from the breakers to the outlets to the PSU's.

If any of the units were to short then the expensive PSU's would be the first to trip, if that fails the GFCI would trip next, if that fails the breaker may trip so as a last resort the fire suppression system would kick in and gain control of the situation once the breaker finally trips or the problem is contained. Meanwhile I'm being texted to death from the Smoke Detection System attached to the 5,000 CFM outtake fan. Because of the amount of air volume there would be no smoke buildup to damage the remaining equipment.

I had some Gridseed (both G-blade and 5-chip) units that shorted but my first line of defense (expensive PSU's) saved the day. All of the gridseed (bad) went into the garbage and the rest of the Gridseed was sold as I've concluded they are poorly manufactured and at great risk of shorting. So it's up to you to make sure you don't put yourself or others lives in danger when mining. 8)

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What I (solely) run now:
Rockminer T1's.
Bitmain AntMiner S3+'s.
Innosilicon A2 Terminator's.
Various GPU rigs.

One of my gridseed units "smoked out" (see above post) but one of the g-blades actually caught on fire internally. Don't assume safety, be sure. 8)

Usually electronic equipment doesn't burn. The pcbs are non flammable so the most vulnerable parts are the cables and plastic pcie plugs.
Just make sure there are no carpets underneath ;)

My biggest worry about my rigs is the heat coming from the cables. They got pretty warm after a day. Oh, and the fact that we were pulling about 6-9 amps from the wall on almost all circuits.  :P

I think part of the problem is people put tons of very hot equipment together on top of flammable equipment and when you don't have any open air all that heat has nowhere to go so naturally you're going to end up starting a fire.

Just keep an extinguisher handy and use heavy gauge cables, I'm not sure about asics but I have 2 850w gpu rigs that've been going strong for 2 years now without issue

It was just pure luck that my house did not burn down when some psu cables caught fire. I felt the smell of burned plastic and rushed in the room and saw big open flames.. Like fifteen minutes later and my whole family had already been in bed.

I moved the miners out of my house the other day.

Theese days i dont mine at all. To much hazzle, heat, noise and about zero profit.

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very expensive.

I have several mounted in my home. Yeah you might get out but the house will probably still burn to the ground.
Neighbours etc can be harmed/killed by some fool mining like crazy in a small appartment.

I suggest people really thinking about it for a bit before setting up rigs in homes. The rig itself will mine 24/7 but you will not be there 24/7.

yeah but most cloud mining services arent that profitable though

i have a 1200 sq/ft apt and run 5 antminer s1's and 4 antminer s3+'s.  I also host my own p2pool node from home.  
I have 4 s3's en route and I am hoping it helps with the slight heating issue from the s1's, but it's not that bad here.  I also have all of the units blowing out of windows so it isn't that bad.  Also all s1's have fans on both ends.  It all costs me roughly $100 extra in power a month which is more than covered by what is mined.  After reading this thread I think I might buy another fire extinguisher to keep at each location the miners are (I have five downstairs and four upstairs) just to be safe.  There is always someone home so that is also a comfort to me.  

Not really, nowadays cloud mining offer real good deal. Sometimes even better then buying hardware due to the shipment charges and home electricity rate.

The lack of control though...

I just started with Hashnest over at Bitmantech.  Not 100% thrilled with the setup but I didn't realize the gory details until after I looked into it. I'm at a point now where I'm either going to have to cut my loses (only about .385 btc) or add to it to make up for the maintenance fees.

Do you know if the fees increase as hash power increases or what the fee is attached to?

If you do it right the risk of fire should be no more than with any other electronic equipment. Your miners and power supplies will fail long before they get hot enough to go on fire. The biggest risk is probably the wiring in the walls, but if you have a problem there you are at risk no matter what you plug in.

I would say the fees would increase coz you're paying for the maintenance fee of it.

Agree on this, if people are using a lot of power then they need to make sure their cable is able to withstand the amp that they pull. If not it would be really dangerous even if its normal household item like air conditional.

I had one of my gpu rigs by the window, i had the window open, which was causing a draft of wind which was good keeping the rig cooler this was in Feb time. Anyway i had a book on the floor and it had a lose sheet of paper in it, well the sheet of paper come out of the book and landed onto the edge of the mother board, i had come upstairs just because i sensed something wasn't right, just had a feeling, the sheet of paper was smouldering very bad along with the mother board which was then broke, luckily not a electrical fire because they can get out of hand very quickly and i was also in the house, if i wasn't im sure it would have been bad. You have to be carefull and don't take nothing for granted!!

Get your miners hosted at a proffesional dc like the rest of us simple solution. Mining with miners at home is not recommended unless you can monitor it 24/7 which is not possible for anyone unless your loner who never leaves home lol. Cloud mining is not at all profitable and sucks I would never suggest that. If you buy a miner at least you have a hardware you can sell or trade later.

If anyone has any mining equipment that they no longer want/need because it uses too much electricity with the current difficulty to make much profit.....if you don't want them I will GLADY take them off your hands. Let's just say I have free electricity. I split the mined profits with you even if it's something worth doing 500GH+ or something.



I remember when my 5GH/s miner would easily make $175 in a month. Now a year later I'm lucky to make 52 cents in a month...wtf is up with that.

For some reason, asic still have good price on ebay. So I believe it's easier to sell then to ship to someone else hopping for some share profit..

I mined 50 coins today  :)

You must keep the dust out of your miners make sure they stay clear of dust , make sure you watch the temperatures too if you see ne getting hotter than usual you should check out why, make sure all the wires are normal temps as well. feel your wires frequently that plug your miner into the wall, if that wire gets to Hot check the Guage of the wire and get one that does not heat up. Fire prevention is the best policy.


Both the raise in difficulty and the price drop in bitcoins will effect your income.

I can sell you some miners if your interested shared profit s not something I am interested in.

Even if you clean it every month and check the temperature. Hardware would sometimes just fail for no reason and cause fire, the safest way is to make sure all material that you use in the room is fire proof. That would stop the fire from going mad..

Increase the gauge of your cables and sleep easy.

Buy some self activating fireballs.  I have one on top of each of my metal wire racks, and also tempered glass between each shelf and miner to prevent one from killing them all. If the heat and fire actually spreads the fireball takes care of the shelf and the room.

Where are the pictures?  :(

No amount of money, is worth it, when someone has to die for it. Invest in smoke detectors and keep the insurance companies happy too.

They will look for any bloody excuse not to pay, in the event of a fire.

I run out of a basement, and had two close calls already. {Risk is, if you do not invest in it, you loose everything, and possibly your life}

This thread is a interesting read. Myself a Electrical Engineer as a Trade knows simply.... If you decide to mine at home make sure you have properly worked out the current load on the circuit and calculate the new load of be added. Also allow a further 10% for movement.

Again making sure you use the correct sized power cable and not the cheap cable you get free with your monitor!. The more copper you have in the cable the more the heat can be dispersed.

Once you have all the above sorted a good RCD wouldn't go a miss!


I would be interested to see the pictures of this fire as 9/10 fires come from human error!.

 

What is a self activating fireballs?

probably something like these

http://www.bestfireball.com/EN/features.html

They are just normal balls, which you throw in a fire and they splash open or something, thus extinguishing the fire.
Its a better alternative to the fire extinguisher. And you could just leave it aside the miner, and it will extinguish it itself.

I think more like this  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL9nWJrzVeg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL9nWJrzVeg)

In our old server rooms, we had a system, that replaced the oxygen in the room, with a gas, less flammable. So you starve the fire, from oxygen and it cannot burn or burns slower, to give you more time to extinguish it.

What we found, was that it cause less water damage.