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More binaries to follow.

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More discussion here.
http://solidcointalk.org/topic/137-solidcoin-104-released/ (http://solidcointalk.org/topic/137-solidcoin-104-released/)

Uh oh...what did he screw up now? lol

EDIT: Yup ArtForz "hacked" that one. LOL

Nice :)

So the idea is to blame problems on Bitcoin and downplay your incompetence, huh?


Uh, the vulnerability is due to your fixed transaction cost that you changed in your fork of Bitcoin. It's not in the original Bitcoin code. The original Bitcoin code had variable transaction fees which would cause a similar attack on Bitcoin to cost about 80 BTC in fees.

And nice to label ArtForz a hacker. What exactly did he hack? He just showed you a vulnerability in SolidCoin that you introduced and refused to acknowledge until he proved it to you.


So your untested fix in version 1.03 caused a huge problem for exchanges. Exchanges even had to stop withdrawal/deposits due to it. And you're just going to call it a "small issue"? If it's such a small issue, why are you in such a hurry to release a fix so soon. Are you sure you tested this release enough?

And if you are talking about the vulnerability of log files getting too large that caused clients to crash... ArtForz did not know about it before he attempted sending those large transactions. It was just an unforeseen issue due to these large transaction. So don't spread misinformation by saying that "ArtForz took advantage of to crash clients."

No that was fixed in 1.03 so you're referring to something different I've fixed here in 1.04. I won't mention it publicly because it may open an attack on Bitcoin.


Yes he is a blackhat hacker who disrupted the computers, networks and investments of thousand of people around the world. He is also lying about communications he has had with me. But you wouldn't expect much else from a hacker.

Honestly this guy has a bigger ego than his skills are worth. He basically downplays his incompetence and points out bitcoins "flaws" that really aren't flaws and he mislabels people as "hackers".

Even though I was impressed initially with solidcoin the mere fact that its founder is a douche and shows he has many bias comments and names and misconceptions I'm not one who wants to be a part of such a project. It is almost like he is positioning himself to have the most enemies in the community where he could benefit from the most by befriending those he "opposes".

Simply Put: This path he is on is one of destruction.

Don't forget the new license text:

Thousands of people huh? Of which like 10 people have 90% of all the coins?

Your comments are only made to maximize your position by making it seem that others are conspiring against you.

Wow! So much for open-source huh? LOL...

May want to add Thomas Nasakioto to that list too.

Nice, real nice. Way to fork an open-source project and turn it to something that's no longer open source. Is that even allowed?

I have to agree with smoothie, this guy is a douche.

Reading is overrated, source is provided in first post. Have a look guys. :)

+1

The license has been changed for a few reasons, so we can be updated in advance of the source being used in other projects and to advise others on precautions they need to take. SolidCoin has now fixed multiple vulnerabilities in the Bitcoin client and they need important consideration before being added to other chains. Furthermore to the bitcoin developers which suggest SolidCoin has done nothing it will require them to have a turn around in their public statements to date.

We are not necessarily going to restrict who can use the source code, however this change is mostly brought on by the developers and trolls of Bitcoin. If you don't like it, don't use the source code, simple really.

You are so full of yourself. Let me get this straight. Your changes to the Bitcoin code is so advanced, that unless the Bitcoin developers talk to you first, they may not understand the full implications of the change and may hurt themselves. Did I get it right? Is that really what you are implying?

lol WOW

EDIT: This is coming from the guy who did not realize the implications of having a fixed transaction fee and having ArtForz exploit it to show you what a dumbfuck you really are. Then you go and release a "immediate" version capping transaction sizes to 4KB thus shutting down the exchanges. LOL

I think this doc/readme.txt is meaningless bull shit because the code is still under the MIT/X11 software license and this stupid joke is not relicensing it.

Nail in the coffin for solidcoin?

Sure looks like it.

SC is pretty much dead. The bitparking exchange and pool just shut down with this message:

haha

yes, those idiots just pissed off the largest Solidcoin exchange too with this license change.

Yeah unless the price goes ballistic on 24 or moonco.in... will be interesting to watch.

What are exactly the changes you refer to? CoinHunter, can you file it to a patent? You should know it is just an idea, a small idea, you can't forbid someone to use it if one wants to, and actually nobody will use it when you claimed it. Anyone will not copy it directly if want, and can just change the parameters with understanding its meaning if it has. Now, this guy make himself enemy with the community.

+1

wow, this "licence change" realy made the price drop, lol

What price? Which exchange? lol...

People are dumping them on moonco.in

https://moonco.in/exchange/solidcoin

Last Trade 0.0030
High Bid 0.0030
Low Ask 0.0031
Volume 20937.2924 SC
High 0.0400
Low 0.0011
Avg 0.0206

Although this could be a double edged sword for us. People could be transferring BTC from the two exchanges to mtgox where their could be a sudden glut of BTC for sale.

If he now buys those SCs cheap, and then undoes the "licence" and works for a price raise again, is that considered "insider trading" ? ;)

If anything, BTC would go *up*, since SC just sank.

I'm not sure DoubleC is going to reopen the exchange after all that has transpired. I could be wrong though.

Guys, SC can still recover from this.  Change it back to an open liscence and take down that nasty article on BTC.  People will find it more respectable, and it'll make it easier to accept a new cryptocurrency.  You have to pick your battles.

Actually yes, what what i liked most about the other chains was, that they pulled off GPU power from bitcoin, so its difficulty was not rising that fast anymore.


Btw, did i oversee something, i thought at the 1st of September ruxum started to trade SC.
Was at their page this morning, but there was no SC to select for trading.

Edit: just found the ruxum topic

I disagree. Solidcoin's founder's motives were clear: Decieve, overlook incompetence, bash bitcoin and other developers even his own users and critics that were solidcoin users.

It will take a long time before people's confidence go back into coinhunter/realsolid.

I had a similar idea but then I realized, that we are asking a 16? years old dip shit (acts like 12), with a bruised ego, to say he is sorry for all the stupid things he as done and apologise. He is probably too stupid to even understand what he has done wrong.
 
Time to move on an forget he even exists.

I have a better idea Find a nice and clean way how to kick this softy RealSolid off this project and move on with a some grownup developers. 
This is probably the only way how to save this project and all the time wasted on building exchanges etc etc.

Deciept isn't a motive.  If they dial back that stuff SC will do ok in the long run.

Well Gee guy, looks like you don't want to tell anyone your reasonings because you have no idea what you're doing.

BTW, I don't want to get caught up in your new license, so if you see me say 'SC', I'm talkin bout those ShitCoins, or ScammyCoins, or those sLOLCoins (I made that last one up).

Can't close an open source thing without removing all open source code from it.  What CH/RS did was put up an illegal and illegitimate message in a readme file, which not only can safely be ignored but should be ignored.

All in all I'm impressed to the lengths he'll go to to crash his own blockchain, and I have to wonder why.
I also have to wonder why I thought the price would go back up from 0.01.  So much for that money.

You do realize that copyright and licenses only protect against actual copying of the source code.  Other projects are still free to a) understand the conceptual algorithm changes you made and b) implement the same changes themselves with slightly different code.  If you want to protect against that, you'll need to get a Patent (good luck with that).

I dont think he can close source SC, since he prob has lots of opensource BTC code in there.
Just shows all those 'forks' cant be fully trusted.

It's not the first time a project or developer went power hungry and tried to rape an open source project. A few examples are firefox, X11, twiki, and OpenOffice.

Version 1.03 was, I believe, fully open source.

What this project needs is someone to fork 1.03, fix the transaction processing code, and release it as a new open source project. It will carry on quite happily with the SolidCoin blockchain. We can then revert any mental and unstable changes made by the mental and unstable SolidCoin developer(s) and have a free coin. We could rename it in the process.

..or we could just let it die.

Wow, what a mess. How could you guys fuck with the license, did you really think that nobody would care?

This is not correct. Bitcoin is under the MIT/X11 license which allows people to restrict or close it up as they like. Also, even if Bitcoin was GPL'd and they tried to pull this, their infringement does not automatically mean you can infringe on their code.

Anyhow, Solidcoin was flawed from the start. It didn't fix much, if any, of the known issues in Bitcoin, and only worked-around the "pump and dump" issue other similar scams have seen. Over the past few days, I've explained to various people on IRC how a new cryptocurrency could be done to really fix these problems and significantly restructure things, so hopefully some of them will get together a team to actually try implementing something new (it falls outside the scope of my interest in Bitcoin to do so myself).

Thanks to these changes,lots of my exchanges and SC BTC guild have shut down.You need to ease up on the liscencing restrictions otherwise more people will refuse to use your currency and that always affects the user/consumer.Is there any basis to your requirement on that ":We are not necessarily going to restrict who can use the source code, however this change is mostly brought on by the developers and trolls of Bitcoin. If you don't like it, don't use the source code, simple really."

This is the part that concerns me,as the 2 exchanges and 2 pools I already used have shutdown because of this.

Devs (of SC),I liked your idea on SC but the new restrictions are driving some developers of exchanges out.Please reverse the problematic licencing terms or rephrase them (so as not to offend/confuse anyone) for clarification. Why did you decide to tighten restrictions at a time when SC was gaining interest from more people?

Also did you really think people will take these changes lying down? I certainly didn't

I also wish to understand why you changed the terms and how do they really affect me?
Can't we show the devs that they made a big mistake?I think if enough people complain and show that we are prepared to move away from this SC project,then the devs will take notice.I vote with my feet(and wallet).

This is going in your permanent file.

The damage is already done. I highly doubt said pools or exchanges are going to have a change of heart about RS/CH and reopen just because he backpedals on this particular issue.

I didn't realise fully but it was a good ride while it lasted.

This change could be contributory towards establishing even better pump and dump than has occurred so far.  Congrats to mastermind?

HOWEVER

SolidCoin is open source and NOBODY has to use that particular release.  Fork perhaps?  Additionally with fork, restore the MIT license to be included?

For me I'm just freezing a bunch of this SLC's and put them to rest in an USB Pen.
No use for this whatsoever and it's developer just keeps stepping everybody's toes...

Btw, what's the last block# on this thing? I already get 1500+ confirmations of transactions from 27/08 and it keeps going.

Done
Soldcoin is a new Solidcoin client completely open-source, no more ask-me-before bs

After I saw the Bitparking message this morning, I decided to just withdraw my SolidCoins and put them in a shoebox, so to speak.  But now there's no evidence of my transaction ever taking place other than the 0'd out balance in BitParking.  I'm running v1.04 of the client too.  WTF.

mine came out just fine wallet.dat

try a -rescan

if not look at the blockchain and see if you can see your transaction


doubleC is helpful as well.


now jackjack can you get scexchange to reopen?

If the last block is #28353
Then I'm in the same boat with wallet.dat; nothing has been sent from bitparking.

client says block 29286

So I've a long time to go yet, it seams stopped at 28353 here. Rather redownload the whole blockchain again.

Thank you jackjack for saving the solidcoin from being listed as a asspenny in this new and fabulous asspenny-exchange.tk.
Now, lets download this new and shiny fork'n'fork of yours :)

PS! Good job RealSolid! Well done, boy!

my client says block 29295 but i'm running the original solidcoin client.

I have just the same issue, restart client.

There's also an improved, open source Client for SolidCoin :)

[ANNOUNCE] New Solidcoin Client Fully Open-Source! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41345.0)

Bah, what a mess.   Withdrawn from scex a while ago but the stupid client is stuck on block 28397 (and block explorer says we're up to 28480).

Great success!

Still re-downloading the blockchain here... lets see where it will hang, 25K blocks so far.


Where "Hardened Edition" means; it "hardly works".  ;D

We're actually on block 29333.  The block explorer for SC is broken due to the new releases of solidcoind.

I had a hard time syncing up my client too and I think that's what the bugfix corrected. The db for the 24k or so blocks I had was over a GB of data.
I got the new client and I'm under 100mb now.

Tldr. Blocks are huge and take a while to download. I kept mine running over night (40mbs download speed)

You mean the fact that 1.03 couldn't handle actual transactions and the exchanges had to disable deposit and withdraw because your fix for ArtForz's disclosed vulnerability was stupid.

Also, convincing people to sell all their SolidCoin and buy Bitcoins isn't an attack on Bitcoin. :)

Lol wtf. Funniest way of committing suicide I've seen yet.

Stuck again, after redownload the whole thing, now stopped at 28354... at least is one more block than before.

http://coins.ptchat.net/p/gandalf.jpg

You seriously took the time to make that photoshop huh?

Got to do something while waiting...

just use the old version works fine. (The one before 1.03)

Just toss the SaladCoin.  It tastes of ass and the mayonnaise is a lie.

Um, its dead... My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. Right before he passed out he said that Solidcoin was dead. I guess it's pretty serious.

 ;D

I just did a solidcoin.exe -rescan but I'm still seeing block 28414.  How do I re-download the entire block chain?

Edit: I just tried withdrawing 1 coin to my wallet and so far nothing is happening.

Exit the client. Move the wallet file (and the solidcoin.conf if you have one) to another directory, then delete all files in the directory. Put wallet.dat and solidcoin.conf back in, and run the client again.

It will start from zero, expect this to take a very long time.

Blockchain finished to redownload, transaction from bitparking is OK and confirmed.
Current block: 29362

Technically SolidCoin is violating the bitcoin license due to the removal of the COPYING file in the source distribution which has this text:

Not to mention the global replacement of the copyright notice of the bitcoin developers in all the source files to be 'solidcoin developers'.

I guess we'll soon find out how well SolidCoin's adjustment mechanisms work at difficulty 1 anyway, so it's kinda a moot point. :)

I'll be highly amused if it's an integer and a multiplier, it'll end up stuck at difficulty 1 for the rest of time, 1 * 0.1 = 1 in integer land, after all.






On a largely unrelated note, I haven't heard any SC/RC conspiracy theories yet, so I'm going to start one:

CoinHunter intentionally crashed his currency so he could carefully buy >100,000 coins at dirt cheap prices, then publicly step away from soldcoin or (and?) re-open it so the coins have value again.


Almost seems more likely than someone being that stupid.

You're new to the internet, huh. :)

That stupid though?  I mean I know the internet does wonders, but....  damn.
Maybe he's actually 13 or so, that'd fit I suppose.

I think he started believing his own hype. I think he genuinely believed he was badass enough to get away with the new license.  That's why he hasn't been on here today - his world is falling apart and there's nothing he can do.

If SolidCoin is his world then my perception of how pathetic he is has just crossed into a whole new numerical domain.

sqrt(-1)?

Well, no, that's my perception of his intelligence.

Because the square root of -1 is imaginary, and so is his IQ.

Though it's digital, he's essentially been publicly humiliated. He had a 'strong' rep just 3 days ago, in spite of his cockiness his project was doing well.  In just that time so many people/pools/exchanges have pulled out, the price has plummeted... that's a lot for a psyche to handle.

LoL, you guys are mean. Nice one.

I can hear someone calling for his Mom right now.

"MOOOOOOOM! SOME MYTHICAL WOLFBEAST GUY IS MAKING FUN OF ME ON THE INTERNET!!!!"

Whenever I start Solidcoin 1.04 I get a MS Visual C++ runtime error: "This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way."  Is this happening to anybody else and how can I fix this?

link to art explaining his exploit of the solidcoin client please?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40772.msg501511#msg501511
some more infos in other posts from artforz

FWIW I reach block 29940 with version <1.03 (1.02?), albeit my ~/.solidcoin directory is 6.9 GiB in size. I'll try re-downloading the block chain from scratch with both "1.02" and 1.04.

Edit: huh, I killed solidcoind and now the directory is only 84 MiB.

The commit journals are cleaned up when the client exits.

so... any bets on how long till the dev starts claiming that the failure of soiledcoin was what he wanted all along?  for someone with such delusions of grandeur, it's really the only sensible course of action left, imho.

Oh well... It was fun for a week.  :(

Reached block 30800 in all cases, although 1.04 got stuck a couple of times (at blocks 6000 and 17600) and had to restart it. Going through ArtForz's transactions is CPU intensive (made my laptop shutdown a couple of times due to heat) but not a blocker.