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Title: **IN HAND** BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.023Btc/Gh/s
Post by: Ytterbium on January 13, 2014, 12:57:16 AM
02/16/2014 - Update: Price has been lowered to just 0.196 btc/blade, with no rebate, for as many as you like (Up to 24 or so, since that's all I have left).  Shipping is still free in the US as well.

So far, all of orders have shipped in less then 12 hours. We also have a 24 hour shipping guarantee. if your order doesn't ship in 24 hours, I'll ship it express, and if it doesn't ship in 48 hours you can request a full refund, in btc.


Order today from https://starfire-x.com (https://starfire-x.com)!

Here's an independent review from Kushedout (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424823.0)
Posting a quick review of my experience with ASIC blades I purchased from starfire-x.com

Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412945.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412945.0)

Seller: Ytterbium

Site: https://starfire-x.com (https://starfire-x.com)

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Pros:
Purchase process was simple and secure.
Second day delivery.
Professional packaging.
Great communication and support from seller.
Setup was fast and easy, blades required no configuration.
Self explanatory, though instructions are available on the site.

Cons:
None.
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Waiting for PCB spacers to arrive from Amazon so I can have a nicer setup, but here are some pics of the current Frankenstein I built. :)

http://i.imgur.com/xYgxY7O.jpg?1 (http://i.imgur.com/xYgxY7O.jpg?1)
http://i.imgur.com/Q7suNu2.jpg?1 (http://i.imgur.com/Q7suNu2.jpg?1)
http://i.imgur.com/WQ0ggk3.jpg?1 (http://i.imgur.com/WQ0ggk3.jpg?1)

And here's hephaist0s's post on getting his hardware:
Got my blade yesterday, and it's currently hashing at ~11GH/s. Setup was easy, essentially the same as an AM Blade (which is in the background in the pic.)

http://i.imgur.com/G4IzjQPl.jpg

This shipped as soon as I ordered it. In-stock counts for a lot. Thanks!

01/14/2014 - Update: Starfire-x has sold and shipped it's first order!  Placed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=413009.msg4480380#msg4480380) at 12:45 AM on January 13th, the order shipped at 11:56:39 AM the same day. That makes the average time between ordering and shipping so far just 11 hours and 11 minutes! (with n=1, obviously)

http://i.imgur.com/YKYK3QB.jpg

Anyway, since everything worked I guess I can say the test is over.  However, I think I'll keep the rebate going to keep prices more competitive and encourage people to post when they order.

If we're not able to ship within 24 hours, we'll upgrade your shipping for free, so the delivery date won't slip. If we're not able to ship in 48 hours we'll give you a full refund (in btc) if you ask for one.

If you'd like to order a from europe, you can still get free shipping if you order six or more.  Otherwise you'll have to pay extra for shipping.

Hi everyone.

I have some BTCGarden hardware I'm selling here in US through the website I setup, starfire-x.com (https://starfire-x.com), if anyone's interested in buying some. These are self-contained mining rigs and don't require a USB connection to a host, just an Ethernet port.  When I tested a single one on eligius.st I got about 8.5Gh/s on average.

Price is now a flat 0.196 btc/blade.

I'm still working on the website, but payment processing works and I'd like to do a small test of 10-20 customers on Monday, so I'm currently offering an "instant rebate" of 0.132BTC on a base price of 0.396BTC.  

So, basically if you order one the price is  ฿0.264 if you order one,   ฿0.528 if you order two, and then 0.396 for each additional order. My goal is to get a lot of small customers rather then one big one buying a bunch. Once I've sold 10-20 I'll turn off the rebate. That comes to about 0.031btc/Gh/s, compared to 0.044 right now on cex.io.

To get the rebate, just post in this thread with your txid or the address you paid, or you can PM me.




I did some tweaking to the firmware to make it easier to setup and use, mostly turning on the LEDs and using them to signal when the card isn't able to get work, as well as fixing some issues that could make it difficult to access the configuration panel if it wasn't already configured properly and able to get work.  I also wrote a pretty detailed setup guide  (http://starfire-x.com/documentation/gardenblade.htm) for anyone interested.

One nice thing about these is that you can get them for a couple hundred bucks, so you don't need to invest thousands of dollars or multiple bitcoins.  And of course, these are in hand and should ship Monday, January 12th if you order before noon or so.

Here's an a more recent pic of my setup with some dramatic lighting:
http://i.imgur.com/kYzAiSH.jpg

An older pic. I actually have more cards setup at the moment.
http://starfire-x.com/img/array_1000.jpg

And a closeup showing off the LEDs.  

http://starfire-x.com/img/LEDs2.jpg

Here's what the board itself looks like

http://starfire-x.com/img/board_plain.jpg

Let me know what you guys think!  


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: drifting on January 13, 2014, 02:00:20 AM
Hey there,
I went to your website to check it out. But when I clicked on the store, it required me to create a user account just to look at it  ???

I didn't create the account and didn't buy anything... You should change it so people can at least look at products in the store with logging in


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Ytterbium on January 13, 2014, 02:09:31 AM
Hey there,
I went to your website to check it out. But when I clicked on the store, it required me to create a user account just to look at it  ???

I didn't create the account and didn't buy anything... You should change it so people can at least look at products in the store with logging in

All you have to do to create an account is pick a username and password, that's it. There's nothing to see in the store that you can't see in this post or on the front page of the website, there's only one product you can buy. I'm still working on the website, but I wanted to start taking orders now instead of spending more time tweaking it and making it perfect while hardware sits idle.


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: miaviator on January 13, 2014, 02:19:49 AM
I'd like to see what thermal material is between the heatsink and the asic chips, could you get me that information or a photo?


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Ytterbium on January 13, 2014, 02:39:37 AM
I'd like to see what thermal material is between the heatsink and the asic chips, could you get me that information or a photo?

Just some thermal paste. I took the heatsink off of one of my early samples and took a picture a while ago:
http://starfire-x.com/img/sans_sink.jpg

The focus of the picture is actually the 50mhz oscillator in the middle there as I was trying to ID the components, but you can see the thermal paste on the chips.  There's not that much.  These things can be passively cooled pretty easily, I'm only using a fan because I was using 26mm spacers to desperate the ones on the left, basically stacking them on top of eachother (which saves space, but obviously doesn't allow for a lot of convection)


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: tekmunki on January 13, 2014, 04:17:05 AM
What kind of power consumption are we looking at for each board?


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Ytterbium on January 13, 2014, 05:19:31 AM
What kind of power consumption are we looking at for each board?

I just checked a set of 8 of them running on a 750W 80 plus gold PSU (an EVGA NEX750G), with a Kill-a-watt, and it was reading 748W at the wall. That would be about 84W/card assuming 90% efficiency. So slightly less then one w/gh. They're not super-efficient but it'll take a while before they can't cover their own electrical costs.


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: klondike_bar on January 13, 2014, 05:51:15 AM
What kind of power consumption are we looking at for each board?

I just checked a set of 8 of them running on a 750W 80 plus gold PSU (an EVGA NEX750G), with a Kill-a-watt, and it was reading 748W at the wall. That would be about 84W/card assuming 90% efficiency. So slightly less then one w/gh. They're not super-efficient but it'll take a while before they can't cover their own electrical costs.

you mean slightly less than 10W/GH -more than 10x as power hungry as other hardware options currently for sale at low prices

These should be 0.01BTC per 1GH - that would at least make it competitive


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: hephaist0s on January 13, 2014, 06:47:58 AM
I'll try one, with rebate please;
txid:90d18454956dbb17b5420f1fa798d5901a45737b08e9bc212fea1b96391237bc
address:1DM8pdm1KbTfAcChuoawkEEbwEqGVzmqQ4


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Hechay on January 13, 2014, 10:31:45 AM
It is 85GH/s per blade or 8.5GH/s per blade?


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Ytterbium on January 13, 2014, 11:18:24 AM
It is 85GH/s per blade or 8.5GH/s per blade?

Heh, it's 8.5.  If you want 85Gh/s you can buy 10.

I'll try one, with rebate please;
txid:90d18454956dbb17b5420f1fa798d5901a45737b08e9bc212fea1b96391237bc
address:1DM8pdm1KbTfAcChuoawkEEbwEqGVzmqQ4

Just sent your rebate! hopefully I should be able to get your box in the mail later today.


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: goxed on January 13, 2014, 12:09:23 PM
Will you send a sample card for review?


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: miter_myles on January 13, 2014, 12:17:54 PM
If I recall - these things were all over taobao and aliexpress for awhile.. are these brand new or used?


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Jeffrey on January 13, 2014, 12:39:19 PM
US only?
Don't you want to expand to Europe? Let's say, beautiful Holland? :)


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Ytterbium on January 13, 2014, 01:41:06 PM
If I recall - these things were all over taobao and aliexpress for awhile.. are these brand new or used?

I got them new. Also, I'm going to re-flash and test each one before shipping it out.

Will you send a sample card for review?

I'll think about it, I might be able to give you an additional discount if you agree to do a review, but I don't want to give out more free hardware at this point.

US only?
Don't you want to expand to Europe? Let's say, beautiful Holland? :)

I can ship to Europe but not for free.  If you PM me your address I can look up the shipping cost.


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Ytterbium on January 13, 2014, 05:02:12 PM
hephaist0s's blade is packed and ready to ship! it has a mailing label on it now, but I really feel like going through and blurring out all the address/barcode stuff. All I need to do now is drop it in a UPS drop box.  He should get it by the end of the day Friday.

I decided to go through and test/flash a bunch more cards so they'll all be ready to go if anyone else orders, it'll also save me time if I decide to start mining with them too.



Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: miaviator on January 13, 2014, 05:15:59 PM
Will you offer an unconditional BTC refund if you fail to ship within 24 hours of order receipt?


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: klondike_bar on January 13, 2014, 06:07:17 PM
Will you offer an unconditional BTC refund if you fail to ship within 24 hours of order receipt?

you've had a stick up your ass for days now about stupid technical lingo. These are a little more real then your unicornhashtothemoon nonsense

that said, prices are way out of whack for the power efficiency of the device. The stack shown in the first picture (obviously not new - they are wired and in use) is 40 wired up units - less than 360GHash and drawing roughly 3500W. You could replace that entire stack with a 2/3-filled bitfury system that draws 10% of the power and is the size of about 3 of these stacked blades

the bitfury also costs about 30% less


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: miaviator on January 13, 2014, 06:12:15 PM
Will you offer an unconditional BTC refund if you fail to ship within 24 hours of order receipt?

you've had a stick up your ass for days now about stupid technical lingo. These are a little more real then your unicornhashtothemoon nonsense

that said, prices are way out of whack for the power efficiency of the device. The stack shown in the first picture (obviously not new - they are wired and in use) is 40 wired up units - less than 360GHash and drawing roughly 3500W. You could replace that entire stack with a 2/3-filled bitfury system that draws 10% of the power and is the size of about 3 of these stacked blades

the bitfury also costs about 30% less

It's funny.  I offer an actual in stock priority mail shipping guaranteed ROI guaranteed refund device. -> no one wants it.

I offer live unicorns to hash bitcoins -> 4 orders

I am just curious if the OP is willing to stick by his statement or if he is following standard ASIC industry practices.  I am willing to buy miners that are guaranteed to ship or even better miners that offer my terms.  (Guaranteed to ship, guaranteed to beat a specific benchmark of BTC production, guaranteed to exist, guaranteed refund if the buyer is not satisfied)

As a potential customer of these power suckers (which doesn't bother me in the least) I would like to be able to make an informed decision.



Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: miter_myles on January 13, 2014, 06:13:08 PM
One of the BE blades are cheaper and perform faster.. not sure on the power draw though


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Ytterbium on January 13, 2014, 07:52:12 PM
Will you offer an unconditional BTC refund if you fail to ship within 24 hours of order receipt?

Here's what I put in the current terms of sale on the website.

Quote
Orders placed during the test run have a target ship date of Monday, January 13th. If we are unable to ship your order by 6pm on Tuesday, January 14th, you can chose to cancel your order and receive a full refund.

Although obviously I will need to update that as I already sent out the one order for today. It shipped less then 12 hours after the order was placed.

In general, if I'm not able to send a package within 48 hours (not counting weekends) I'll be happy to provide a refund.

They're just sitting there on a table, all I have to do is put them in a box and mail them.  There's not really any reason why I shouldn't be able to ship an order within 24 hours.


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: miaviator on January 13, 2014, 08:00:37 PM
Will you offer an unconditional BTC refund if you fail to ship within 24 hours of order receipt?

Here's what I put in the current terms of sale on the website.

Quote
Orders placed during the test run have a target ship date of Monday, January 13th. If we are unable to ship your order by 6pm on Tuesday, January 14th, you can chose to cancel your order and receive a full refund.

Although obviously I will need to update that as I already sent out the one order for today. It shipped less then 12 hours after the order was placed.

In general, if I'm not able to send a package within 48 hours (not counting weekends) I'll be happy to provide a refund.

They're just sitting there on a table, all I have to do is put them in a box and mail them.  There's not really any reason why I shouldn't be able to ship an order within 24 hours.

Thank You!  Please update us if you receive a ton of orders and the table gets empty...


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Ytterbium on January 13, 2014, 08:15:01 PM
Will you offer an unconditional BTC refund if you fail to ship within 24 hours of order receipt?

you've had a stick up your ass for days now about stupid technical lingo. These are a little more real then your unicornhashtothemoon nonsense.

that said, prices are way out of whack for the power efficiency of the device. The stack shown in the first picture (obviously not new - they are wired and in use) is 40 wired up units - less than 360GHash and drawing roughly 3500W. You could replace that entire stack with a 2/3-filled bitfury system that draws 10% of the power and is the size of about 3 of these stacked blades

the bitfury also costs about 30% less

The ones in the picture are the ones I'm mining with. The rest of them were just sitting in a box, and I actually went through tested/re-flashed all of them this morning, so they're ready to ship. (I actually did find one that didn't work, along with one with a non-functional blue LED and two with power sockets that were lose.)

The only real difference is that those are all configured with different IP addresses, while the "new" ones are all set to 192.168.1.200, 192.168.1.201 or 192.168.1.202 depending on what the factory sticker says.

It's true the bitfury costs less, per Gh/s, but the minimum order is like $1,600 (and it was like $2,800 a couple days ago). I wasn't expecting them to drop their prices so quickly, and I'm kind of just hoping they sell out in the next few days.   ;D

Thank You!  Please update us if you receive a ton of orders and the table gets empty...

So far I've only sold one, so it shouldn't be a big deal. And if I do accidentally go over I can ship the ones I've been mining with. Once those are gone I doubt it would even be possible for me to get any more.


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Ytterbium on January 13, 2014, 10:11:44 PM
Oh, here's some pics I took while actually shipping the package:



Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: cedivad on January 13, 2014, 11:50:25 PM
I'm surprised that you are able to sell at 0.03 BTC/GH in Jan.


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: miaviator on January 14, 2014, 02:39:10 AM
I'm surprised that you are able to sell at 0.03 BTC/GH in Jan.

He may be the first person to sell a "New" "InStock" asic.

Who also SHIPPED a NEW IN STOCK asic.

I can believe it.

Hell I might buy a few hundred.


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Ytterbium on January 14, 2014, 03:25:22 PM
I'm surprised that you are able to sell at 0.03 BTC/GH in Jan.

He may be the first person to sell a "New" "InStock" asic.

Who also SHIPPED a NEW IN STOCK asic.

I can believe it.

Hell I might buy a few hundred.

Well, I've only got about 52 or so left that I haven't been mining with (other then a few seconds to test them while I was going through and updating the firmware).  I also just ordered some more power supplies and Ethernet cables, I'm not planning on letting them just sit on a shelf for weeks waiting for someone to buy them  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: cedivad on January 14, 2014, 04:08:25 PM
Good luck with what will come out of HF and CT fabs in the next weeks :)

(no blame for the prices, since that it's in hand hardware, but let's say that it's like AM in hand hardware, it will never return in the investment. Nothing against it, off course, always better than what i'm losing with HF).


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Ytterbium on January 15, 2014, 07:47:01 PM
Good luck with what will come out of HF and CT fabs in the next weeks :)

(no blame for the prices, since that it's in hand hardware, but let's say that it's like AM in hand hardware, it will never return in the investment. Nothing against it, off course, always better than what i'm losing with HF).

I may lower my prices in a bit.  I didn't want to set the initial price to low and get swamped with orders that I couldn't process quickly enough. I'm also still building up my mining capacity. I'm up to 56 online right now, with some more power supplies coming soon.


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: hephaist0s on January 18, 2014, 09:36:11 PM
Got my blade yesterday, and it's currently hashing at ~11GH/s. Setup was easy, essentially the same as an AM Blade (which is in the background in the pic.)

http://i.imgur.com/G4IzjQPl.jpg

This shipped as soon as I ordered it. In-stock counts for a lot. Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Ytterbium on January 19, 2014, 02:25:51 AM
Got my blade yesterday, and it's currently hashing at ~11GH/s. Setup was easy, essentially the same as an AM Blade (which is in the background in the pic.)

http://i.imgur.com/G4IzjQPl.jpg

This shipped as soon as I ordered it. In-stock counts for a lot. Thanks!


No problem!


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: lithod02 on January 19, 2014, 03:05:45 AM
Coming from a web background of over 20 years, you may want to make your site a little more visitor friendly.
1. not require a login, this isnt a piss contest for most members on a site
2. show what you are getting and price
3. what is required to run this equipment.
4. details



Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Ytterbium on January 19, 2014, 04:43:54 PM
Coming from a web background of over 20 years, you may want to make your site a little more visitor friendly.
1. not require a login, this isnt a piss contest for most members on a site
2. show what you are getting and price
3. what is required to run this equipment.
4. details

There is a detailed setup guide here (http://starfire-x.com/documentation/) which does not require a log on and is linked on the front page of the site. You only need to sign up if you actually want to buy something. And all you need to do to sign up is pick a username and password, no email is required.  And the price is listed here in the thread.

There's also a note on the page indicating that the design isn't final. I spent most of my time prior to announcing the site working on the documentation, so that people who actually bought the products could use them, and obviously putting the product index on the front page of the store is part of the plan, but it's not a high priority item. It's also more complicated then you might think - it would only be a few lines of code to redirect to the signup page when someone isn't logged on and clicks 'buy' it massively increases the number of potential states the site can be in, which in turn increases the amount of time it takes to fully test every potential  path a user can take.

I've also been really busy - I've been working on expanding my mining operation, as well as shipping products, and I have other higher-priority features to add to the site, like coupons, the ability to add notes to orders and so on.

This isn't zappos.com, I'm not selling shoes. People are going to need to have a decent amount of technical ability in order to use these things and i'm not interested in selling them to people too dumb to use them.


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: freddyfarnsworth on January 28, 2014, 07:59:19 PM
affordable to buy :) watching

ooops... saw .03 btc and went WoW missed the real price, .03 I have but thats it. I will keep dreaming.


Title: Re: [ANN] BTCGarden hardware - U.S. distribution 0.03Btc/Gh/s **IN HAND**
Post by: Ytterbium on February 18, 2014, 03:49:18 AM
affordable to buy :) watching

ooops... saw .03 btc and went WoW missed the real price, .03 I have but thats it. I will keep dreaming.

I just lowered the price to 0.196, which is about $120 or so with the recent btc price drops. These are by far the most affordable miners you can get, outside of USB miners that will never ROI.