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Title: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: Kartoff on September 04, 2011, 08:42:37 PM
I want to know when all this euphoria around SolidCoin will over and we can go back to time when all worked fine ? I spend time and money with SC and that what happened now are not my fault !!! So i dont want to suffer because somebody dont like what somebody said... Everything worked fime before you to decide to close pools and exchanges... Please bring it back there where it was before... Nobody want to lose his coins and especially when spend a bunch of BTC to buy SC... I will ask it again, why we should suffer when group of people who own pools and exchanges decide to close them because dont like what somebody said ??? I think you can do it in a better way if you can and also is better to try to convince somebody that he is not right with evidences rather than kill him...

Regards.


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: Lumpy on September 04, 2011, 08:44:52 PM
euphoria = a feeling of happiness, confidence or well-being. Not exactly what is going on here.

SC or BTC's success and longevity depends on its acceptance by the community. CoinHunter has scorned the community and now the currency suffers as a result of his words and actions.


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: twmz on September 04, 2011, 08:45:22 PM
The war is over.  Solidcoin lost.  Time to move on.


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: sd on September 04, 2011, 08:47:14 PM
I want to know when all this euphoria around SolidCoin will over and we can go back to time when all worked fine ? I spend time and money with SC and that what happened now are not my fault !!! So i dont want to suffer because somebody dont like what somebody said... Everything worked fime before you to decide to close pools and exchanges... Please bring it back there where it was before... Nobody want to lose his coins and especially when spend a bunch of BTC to buy SC... I will ask it again, why we should suffer when group of people who own pools and exchanges decide to close them because dont like what somebody said ??? I think you can do it in a better way if you can and also is better to try to convince somebody that he is not right with evidences rather than kill him...

What somebody said has nothing to do with it. Coinhunter was mentally unstable and made countless totally false claims on here and on the SolidCoin website. He then changed the license conditions of his client so that no-one else could change anything.

People like that you just can't deal with.


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: Maged on September 04, 2011, 08:48:07 PM
I'm starting to, at least, take care of the trolling going on here, so that should solve that part of the issue. However, I think it's too late for SolidCoin - they screwed themselves.


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: paraipan on September 04, 2011, 08:49:10 PM
It was over before it even started
This is really beginning to look like a joke...

Got some ass pennies ? http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/871851/ (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/871851/)


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: Kartoff on September 04, 2011, 09:01:17 PM
I want to continue using and mining SC ! Please stop that sabotage and bring things back in working condition :) I don't care in wich way, but i want to be sure everything will be fine like it was yesterday !!!


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: sd on September 04, 2011, 09:06:46 PM
I want to continue using and mining SC ! Please stop that sabotage and bring things back in working condition :) I don't care in wich way, but i want to be sure everything will be fine like it was yesterday !!!

There is a open source client now, once everyone is using it and coinhunter has stopped his trolling SolidCoin v2 or whatever will be working as before.

But you might want to mine something with a better history, like maybe BitCoin?


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: Kartoff on September 04, 2011, 09:27:05 PM
No, i cant continue mining BTC because SC is more profitable for me and i have over $20000 investment to pay !!! I made whole month profit plan in only 2 days and now i invested so much BTC in SC like many others who need SC to continue its existence... Its so bad to look people who think so selfish and try to ruin something due to somebody behavior !!!


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: Lumpy on September 04, 2011, 09:27:55 PM
I want to continue using and mining SC ! Please stop that sabotage and bring things back in working condition :) I don't care in wich way, but i want to be sure everything will be fine like it was yesterday !!!

Wistful thinking isn't going to help. Everything will not be fine. CoinHunter has sunk his own currency. You'd be best to cut your losses and move to BTC (as suggested) if you want (some) stability. Even if SC continues existing in some form, there's no guarantee you can get your investment out or that prices will recover.


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: sd on September 04, 2011, 09:36:04 PM
No, i cant continue mining BTC because SC is more profitable for me and i have over $20000 investment to pay !!! I made whole month profit plan in only 2 days and now i invested so much BTC in SC like many others who need SC to continue its existence... Its so bad to look people who think so selfish and try to ruin something due to somebody behavior !!!

It's not more profitable if the bottom just fell out of the network. You invested BTC in SC? You were gambling, gambling doesn't always work.

$20000 investment.. And you gambled your profits away? What the hell is wrong with you? Why didn't you just take that $20000 down the casino and play roulette?



Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: Kartoff on September 04, 2011, 09:53:11 PM
I bought mining hardware in june for more than $20000 i mean... If i mine only BTC i cant pay investment as fast as i should... SC helped me a lot in last week and i want to be sure things will continue in that way... Otherwise how can i be sure same thing wont be happen to BTC tommorow ? I need something i can trust ! I thought at the beginning, before couple of monts, when i heard about cryptocurrency for the first time that it is something can last very long time due to decentralized nature and because nobody can mess up but now i see how bunch of people can ruin whole thing because they don't agree with something...


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: skilo on September 04, 2011, 09:54:13 PM
By the looks of the exchange solidcoin appears to be dead...

1 SLC is worth about as much as the gum on the bottom of your shoe.


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: wolftaur on September 04, 2011, 09:55:55 PM
$20000 investment.. And you gambled your profits away? What the hell is wrong with you? Why didn't you just take that $20000 down the casino and play roulette?

Hey, that numbers and red black stuff is HARD!


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: Lumpy on September 04, 2011, 10:08:43 PM
I bought mining hardware in june for more than $20000 i mean... If i mine only BTC i cant pay investment as fast as i should... SC helped me a lot in last week and i want to be sure things will continue in that way... Otherwise how can i be sure same thing wont be happen to BTC tommorow ? I need something i can trust ! I thought at the beginning, before couple of monts, when i heard about cryptocurrency for the first time that it is something can last very long time due to decentralized nature and because nobody can mess up but now i see how bunch of people can ruin whole thing because they don't agree with something...

You want a guarantee that what you invest in will always go up in value? Don't we all...


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: Oldminer on September 04, 2011, 10:11:40 PM
I bought mining hardware in june for more than $20000 i mean... If i mine only BTC i cant pay investment as fast as i should... SC helped me a lot in last week and i want to be sure things will continue in that way... Otherwise how can i be sure same thing wont be happen to BTC tommorow ? I need something i can trust ! I thought at the beginning, before couple of monts, when i heard about cryptocurrency for the first time that it is something can last very long time due to decentralized nature and because nobody can mess up but now i see how bunch of people can ruin whole thing because they don't agree with something...

Wow...and just when I was beginning to think here was hope for humanity...


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: ElectricMucus on September 04, 2011, 10:17:03 PM
Kartoff can you please make a photograph of your statement of personal bankruptcy once you have done it?
It could serve as a template for some other people...


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: Kartoff on September 04, 2011, 10:32:29 PM
Kartoff can you please make a photograph of your statement of personal bankruptcy once you have done it?
It could serve as a template for some other people...

Why you think i can do that ? It's not possible at this time you know why...


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: MajorMiner on September 04, 2011, 10:35:06 PM
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
 ::)


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: wolftaur on September 04, 2011, 10:35:44 PM
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
 ::)

It's said in the gayest way possible, it has to be true! :)


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: sd on September 05, 2011, 06:19:40 AM
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.

Kartoff, Just in case this hasn't sunk in this message is for you.

Just in case the pretty colors are distracting you:

Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.




Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: sd on September 05, 2011, 07:20:15 AM
Kartoff,

What did you get for $20,000?

What hardware?

If you are lucky someone will want to buy the GPUs. You might get some money back.

What model are your GPUs and where in the world are you?



Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: Kartoff on September 05, 2011, 08:00:44 AM
I am from Bulgaria. I have 5830's, 5850's, 5870's, 5970's, 6870's, 6950's, 6970's, and 6990's as many as i can get. I don't want to sell any hardware even buying when i find something with a good price :D My plan is to continue mining coins in the future and especially SC because they are so good balanced... I am hardware enthusiast and also technican and i want one day when return investment to have bunch of hardwaer to play with :D


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: memvola on September 05, 2011, 08:20:52 AM
I am from Bulgaria. I have 5830's, 5850's, 5870's, 5970's, 6870's, 6950's, 6970's, and 6990's as many as i can get. I don't want to sell any hardware even buying when i find something with a good price :D My plan is to continue mining coins in the future and especially SC because they are so good balanced... I am hardware enthusiast and also technican and i want one day when return investment to have bunch of hardwaer to play with :D

What does it mean "good balanced"? I'm really interested in what you think about this. What relevant fundamental is different about SC?

Mining them were profitable because they increased in value. Mining Bitcoin was extremely profitable early this year for instance. Same goes for any of the alternatives as well. Things change. Also keep in mind there are lots of miners and speculators, so the market saturates very fast now, you can't expect ANY fork to help you make more than any of the others for more than a few weeks tops. In addition to all of this, when you make money, someone is losing it, it's a zero sum game. (Zero sum if we don't include additional value the technology provides, which does not turn into reality at the inception of a currency, it needs to build.)


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: wolftaur on September 05, 2011, 08:36:59 AM
I am from Bulgaria. I have 5830's, 5850's, 5870's, 5970's, 6870's, 6950's, 6970's, and 6990's as many as i can get. I don't want to sell any hardware even buying when i find something with a good price :D My plan is to continue mining coins in the future and especially SC because they are so good balanced... I am hardware enthusiast and also technican and i want one day when return investment to have bunch of hardwaer to play with :D

That's actually a good point that many people don't consider, though it also doesn't apply to everyone.

I'm not as concerned as some about my GPU investment (which is small, but was all I could afford at the time) becoming a "loss" if Bitcoin and friends go belly-up.

The reason for this is my roommate and I have two small home businesses, both of which rely heavily on computing. We both use some extremely CPU-heavy things that are starting to gain OpenCL support. If using my GPUs for mining becomes useless 3 months from now, a process I currently wait an hour for on my main desktop will take about three minutes on one of my mining rigs -- the version of the processing library that supports OpenCL for that application is in RC status and will be stable soon. :) That ALONE would end up making the GPUs worth it in a couple months, and even if I'm still mining, I plan to have my wrapper scripts just kill the miner temporarily when needed.


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: Kartoff on September 05, 2011, 08:53:21 AM
I am from Bulgaria. I have 5830's, 5850's, 5870's, 5970's, 6870's, 6950's, 6970's, and 6990's as many as i can get. I don't want to sell any hardware even buying when i find something with a good price :D My plan is to continue mining coins in the future and especially SC because they are so good balanced... I am hardware enthusiast and also technican and i want one day when return investment to have bunch of hardwaer to play with :D

What does it mean "good balanced"? I'm really interested in what you think about this. What relevant fundamental is different about SC?

Mining them were profitable because they increased in value. Mining Bitcoin was extremely profitable early this year for instance. Same goes for any of the alternatives as well. Things change. Also keep in mind there are lots of miners and speculators, so the market saturates very fast now, you can't expect ANY fork to help you make more than any of the others for more than a few weeks tops. In addition to all of this, when you make money, someone is losing it, it's a zero sum game. (Zero sum if we don't include additional value the technology provides, which does not turn into reality at the inception of a currency, it needs to build.)


As good balanced i mean sum of SC mined are not too many and can be bought at the price 0.01 and up unlike what happens with IXC where sum is much more wich can't be afforded at such price today...


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: memvola on September 05, 2011, 09:12:50 AM
As good balanced i mean sum of SC mined are not too many and can be bought at the price 0.01 and up unlike what happens with IXC where sum is much more wich can't be afforded at such price today...

I really don't get what you mean. Difficulty is a function of price (though difficulty can also affect anticipation and drive price at times), so if it's profitable it will get harder to mine. You can't sell SC for 0.01 BTC now, and that's what is the case. We don't know about the future.

Anyway, Sp0tter posted this today, hope it helps on deciding what to mine: http://allchains.info/


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: the joint on September 05, 2011, 09:30:43 AM
I bought mining hardware in june for more than $20000 i mean... If i mine only BTC i cant pay investment as fast as i should... SC helped me a lot in last week and i want to be sure things will continue in that way... Otherwise how can i be sure same thing wont be happen to BTC tommorow ? I need something i can trust ! I thought at the beginning, before couple of monts, when i heard about cryptocurrency for the first time that it is something can last very long time due to decentralized nature and because nobody can mess up but now i see how bunch of people can ruin whole thing because they don't agree with something...

Relax dude, it's not as bad as you make it seem, because this post makes little to no sense to me lol.   What does the success of SolidCoin have to directly do with the stability and success of Bitcoin?  If anything, eliminating SolidCoin is better for Bitcoin.  It takes more time for vendors/economies to accommodate and invest in 2 currencies than 1, and until then, the economies of each would detract from one another.  Long-term an economy is what drives the value of the currency up - there need to be goods and services backing it.  The only other time you're gonna really profit from a currency is in the very beginning.

You can't be sure the same thing won't happen to the PLANET tomorrow, but that doesn't mean you should kill yourself.  BTC is far more stable than SC.  It as actually has this thing called an economy (kind of) supporting it.  At least your rig is paying you back something and for now, you are, and will continue, to pay back your investment.

It's OK that you can't pay the investment as fast as you "should" (I would like a definition of 'should' in this case).  The mistake was not considering the investment in June!  So, it was an idea in June that really sucked, not this whole SolidCoin thing.  If you redefine how fast you "should" pay it off, then you can fit your expectations to whatever the price of BTC is.  I called this looking at the "glass half-full."

You can trust in Bitcoin because I'm invested in Bitcoin, and whatever I do is a good thing for you to emulate.

Honestly, I'm not sure why you're surprised in the first place.  There have been like 10ish cryptocurrencies between Bitcoin and Solidcoin.  You have (I assume) have witnessed or read about how none of the alternative currencies have managed to break into anything special like Bitcoin.  Solidcoin's been out for what, like 10 days?  I really don't get it.  And don't worry, I'm sure there will be tons of other get-rich-quick cryptocurrencies coming in the near future.

Bottom line - Perk up, get realistic, get a plan, make your money back.


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: the joint on September 05, 2011, 09:31:42 AM
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.

Kartoff, Just in case this hasn't sunk in this message is for you.

Just in case the pretty colors are distracting you:

Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.




Yes, it is.

You really didn't see this coming?


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: zebedee on September 05, 2011, 12:22:20 PM
I want to know when all this euphoria around SolidCoin will over and we can go back to time when all worked fine ? I spend time and money with SC and that what happened now are not my fault !!! So i dont want to suffer because somebody dont like what somebody said... Everything worked fime before you to decide to close pools and exchanges... Please bring it back there where it was before... Nobody want to lose his coins and especially when spend a bunch of BTC to buy SC... I will ask it again, why we should suffer when group of people who own pools and exchanges decide to close them because dont like what somebody said ??? I think you can do it in a better way if you can and also is better to try to convince somebody that he is not right with evidences rather than kill him...

Regards.

"Due diligence" includes getting some idea of the persona behind that which you invest in.  Hopefully a cheap lesson in life.


Title: Re: So when can we expect this SolidCoin war to be over ?
Post by: BitcoinPorn on September 05, 2011, 12:30:50 PM
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.
Past Performance Is Not Indicative of Future Results.

Wow, I can't remember I read a post in my head and noticed it had a lisp and said things with sass.