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Title: 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ bills - today for Bitcoins, tomorrow for free
Post by: Binford 6100 on September 06, 2011, 09:13:14 PM
one 100T Z$ bill inc. worldwide shipping ~1.03 btc
additional 100T Z$ bill ~0.49 btc
("Served 89 bills since block 99999")

one 1g silver art coin ~0.55 btc
set of two 1g silver art coins ~1.01 btc

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4484040/20110202zim2008a.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4484040/20110202zim2008b.png

as for the 1g rounds, they come in 2 types (look at the surface of B in the middle, it's either smooth of 'dotted'), can choose which one you want
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4484040/006.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4484040/007.png
I tried to have more rounds minted but seems like the mint won't make them anymore.

and how a typical letter looks like
https://i.imgur.com/WuCqdl.jpg

"About us"
I've been exchanging the 100T Z$ notes since January 2011 as a hobby on and off (see long breaks in activity).
Last week I served my "100th bill". All orders that week got something extra included in the letter.
I offer this service in my free time as hobby. In the unlikely event I find this social experiment not worthwhile I will do my best to reply to all pending messages, update and lock this thread when stopping this service. If you can post here, we're open.

"Terms of use & Customer care"
This is a low-key, stripped to the minimum, mail service delivering ZWD bills accepting bitcoins.
they come from a non smoking household. Feedback is welcome.

"Other stuff"
I also started a thread about bitcoin on a post stamp here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3888)
the stamps are actually used for sending out the Z$ bills (save me the trip to post office and can drop off the letters off the working hours)
I will probably stockpile stamps to save me the time waiting at the post office. :) enough said, if you need to test your mail or just want to receive some hundreds of trillions of dollars, feel free to contact me.

At the occasion of sending the Z$ bills I resell the 1gram silver bitcoin rounds in small quantities. Mick accepts orders of 10 or more coins. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=23256.0) I do also single coins and small quantities. They fit into the same envelope as Z$ bills so no extra shipping for the 1g coins. both types available. price hovers between 1/3 and 1/2 btc for a piece, check the weekly price fixing, please (last post and OP top).

"Noteworthy competition"
There is this 'other Z$ thread' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=42000) you might want to visit.
they have wide variety of third Z$ bank notes and they use plastic holders to protect the bills (which I do not).
they claim to match any price in the forum so please refer to this forum when you order there and kindly ask them to match my prices.

"Personal data protection"
I do not qualify as personal data processor and am not subject of Directive 95/46/EC.
If you wonder how I store & protect your information, I do not store them.
All records are temporary and serve only to label the envelope and confirm tx.
After all is processed I delete those. I do it as a private person in my free time as hobby and as a pet (artistic) project.
I keep records of 'trade volume' for internal purposes but stripped from all personal data (such as your screen name, if I served you in the past or which address was used for payment).

my OTC web of trust rating (http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=ptmhd&sign=ANY&type=RECV)

How it may work:
1, reply here or PM me that you're interested in one / more Z$ bills
2, I get back to you (hi, what's your postal address ... and send you a bitcoin address)
3, we're done with the order.

(*) 100 Trillion Zimbabwe $ notes are the default option here.
also available one set of 10, 20, 50 and 100 Trillion Z$ bills
and also some coins from Zimbabwe


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $
Post by: Jack of Diamonds on September 07, 2011, 12:29:34 AM
I will take one, I can send the BTC first. PM'ed details.

Do you also have the bigger 500 trillion dollar notes?


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $
Post by: BurntSnow on September 07, 2011, 01:11:50 AM
How much is shipping?


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $
Post by: RandyFolds on September 07, 2011, 01:29:09 AM
PM sent.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $
Post by: Binford 6100 on September 07, 2011, 01:29:52 AM
I will take one, I can send the BTC first. PM'ed details.

Do you also have the bigger 500 trillion dollar notes?

AFAIK the 100 trillion is the highest value used for the Z$ notes, this is the third Z$ (ZWR) and was in circulation in February 2009 (despite the print date on banknote stating 2008). We are talking 14 zeros here. the nearest smaller banknote would be 50 trillion, higher are IMO fake or do not exist. the second Z$ (valid until July 2008) made it to 100 billion z$ highest value (in 3 years). the first Z$ lasted some 25+ years but eventually also ended with 10 zeros attached.

as for the PM, noted & replied.
edited (added bits of info on 1st and 2nd z$)

How much is shipping?

shipping already included in the price for 1st banknote
(.60 btc is the total price for one z$ 100 trillion note, two would cost 1 btc, three 1.4 etc.)


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $ - more than 25 notes sold already
Post by: Yankee (BitInstant) on September 08, 2011, 04:05:25 PM
Can I buy a note, and a few stamps as well?



Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $ - more than 25 notes sold already
Post by: bitcoinTrader on September 08, 2011, 04:20:14 PM
I would like to buy 1 as well if its available.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $ - more than 25 notes sold already
Post by: Binford 6100 on September 08, 2011, 04:49:23 PM
Can I buy a note, and a few stamps as well?

Sure. The post stamps are issued by the Luxembourg post & telecom company and are valid for international letters sent from Luxembourg. not sure if you can use them but you can have some. They are 30 bit cents each (20 cents post stamp 10 cents for the custom image). Just PM me the numbers you want.

I will post the pictures hopefully tomorrow.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $ - more than 25 notes sold already
Post by: Yankee (BitInstant) on September 08, 2011, 05:01:56 PM
Can I buy a note, and a few stamps as well?

Sure. The post stamps are issued by the Luxembourg post & telecom company and are valid for international letters sent from Luxembourg. not sure if you can use them but you can have some. They are 30 bit cents each (20 cents post stamp 10 cents for the custom image). Just PM me the numbers you want.

I will post the pictures hopefully tomorrow.

PM sent!


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $ - more than 25 notes sold already
Post by: Jack of Diamonds on September 09, 2011, 08:57:28 AM
Arrived very fast, good seller.
http://i56.tinypic.com/34s4fna.jpg

Can't say if the notes are genuine due to a general lack of security features (such as watermark) & low quality paper,
but I will assume they are. I only have smaller denominations to compare against.

Though I don't think the central bank cares much about counterfeiting at this point.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $ - more than 25 notes sold already
Post by: kgo on September 09, 2011, 06:59:26 PM
Arrived very fast, good seller.
http://i56.tinypic.com/34s4fna.jpg

Can't say if the notes are genuine due to a general lack of security features (such as watermark) & low quality paper,
but I will assume they are. I only have smaller denominations to compare against.

Though I don't think the central bank cares much about counterfeiting at this point.

Is that a real security thread I see, or is it just printed on?


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $ - more than 25 notes sold already
Post by: Jack of Diamonds on September 11, 2011, 08:38:06 AM
It doesn't feel real. It does reflect a small amount of light though so it's not printed.
Then again the issuer probably didn't care much since they knew these would be virtually worthless.

You could easily make these yourself, no watermarks & paper feels as if from a standard inkjet.
There are no grooves, embossings or raised letters on the note either.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $ - more than 30 sold
Post by: kgo on September 13, 2011, 12:13:43 AM
I'm happy to report that my bills showed up safe and sound.

Regarding the quality, status, I just wanted to mention that I ordered a complete set of these bills from a different source.  From $1 to $100 Trillion.  It looks like they switched to the printed on "security thread" once they hit 500 Million.  I've heard reports of people counter-fitting the 100 Trillion dollar bills, but never the complete set.  All the bills above 200 Million in my other set have the reflective but not embedded thread, paper seems to be the same quality, etc.

Thanks binford.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $ - more than 30 sold
Post by: RandyFolds on September 13, 2011, 01:31:43 AM
One package arrived safe and sound, and I am sure the second will be here tomorrow. It's a couple thousand miles further than that one... Thanks binford!

BTW, the one I had you send as a joke went over exactly as intended. I got a call from my mom (all worried) telling me about how she got an anonymous package properly addressed to her and my dad, from Luxemborg no less, containing a $100,000,000,000,000z$ bill. She thought the dethroned Prince of Nigeria was after them or something.


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $ - more than 30 sold
Post by: brendio on September 13, 2011, 02:50:59 AM
One package arrived safe and sound, and I am sure the second will be here tomorrow. It's a couple thousand miles further than that one... Thanks binford!

BTW, the one I had you send as a joke went over exactly as intended. I got a call from my mom (all worried) telling me about how she got an anonymous package properly addressed to her and my dad, from Luxemborg no less, containing a $100,000,000,000,000z$ bill. She thought the dethroned Prince of Nigeria was after them or something.
lol


Title: Re: [WTS] 100 trillion zimbabwe $ - more than 30 sold
Post by: Binford 6100 on September 13, 2011, 06:36:49 AM
I'm happy to report that my bills showed up safe and sound.
One package arrived safe and sound ...

I'm glad that it works well so far.

Quote
BTW, the one I had you send as a joke went over exactly as intended ... she got an anonymous package properly addressed ...

You did not mention any personal note to be attached so I just packed the bill and sent it ; )

I use to write from: address on the envelopes in most cases but that day 5 letters went out and I'm a bit lazy when it comes to hand writing.
If the notes really take off, I might buy me a label printer or a stamp with my address at least.

anyway. fresh notes came in, exchange is reopened. thanks to the competition, I can rise prices again.

1st note 1.00 0.95 btc, additional notes .65 btc each


Title: Re: trade your bitcoins for 100 trillion zimbabwe $ notes - more than 30 'sold'
Post by: RandyFolds on September 13, 2011, 09:32:50 PM
Received my notes today, well packaged and in perfect condition. Thanks again!


Title: Re: WTB BTC with 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ notes - more than 49 'sold'
Post by: Yankee (BitInstant) on September 15, 2011, 03:30:01 PM
AWESOME! Got mine today and was so excited to see the letter come in with a Bitcoin stamp!

https://i.imgur.com/WuCqdl.jpg

Arrived very fast, good seller.
http://i56.tinypic.com/34s4fna.jpg

Can't say if the notes are genuine due to a general lack of security features (such as watermark) & low quality paper,
but I will assume they are. I only have smaller denominations to compare against.

Though I don't think the central bank cares much about counterfeiting at this point.

Is that a real security thread I see, or is it just printed on?

It is a 'security thread' lol


Title: Re: WTB BTC with 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ notes - more than 49 'sold'
Post by: Yankee (BitInstant) on September 15, 2011, 06:36:01 PM
shopping frenzy anyone?  promo  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41930.msg523970#msg523970) is about to end. more or less when I finish cooking (90 minutes from now) the .80 / .60 offer expires.

anyway even after the return to regular prices I should be highly competitive in the 100 trillion Z$ 'market', we're talking about 10 cents per banknote.

I sent you a PM an hour ago, I wanna buy 2 more :)
Got it?

Charlie


Title: Re: WTB BTC with 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ notes - more than 49 'sold'
Post by: Binford 6100 on September 15, 2011, 08:09:45 PM
I sent you a PM an hour ago, I wanna buy 2 more :)
Got it?

Charlie

Hi Charlie, I'm in the kitchen, did not check my online presence ... 2 more no problem.
You can choose the serial number if you have any preference. The new batch came with numbers 2352001 - 2352100
special service :)
I'll be back in half an hour or so, got stuff in the oven.


Title: Re: WTB BTC with 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ notes - more than 49 'sold'
Post by: Yankee (BitInstant) on September 15, 2011, 08:19:23 PM
I sent you a PM an hour ago, I wanna buy 2 more :)
Got it?

Charlie

Hi Charlie, I'm in the kitchen, did not check my online presence ... 2 more no problem.
You can choose the serial number if you have any preference. The new batch came with numbers 2352001 - 2352100
special service :)
I'll be back in half an hour or so, got stuff in the oven.

Awesome  :D


Title: Re: WTB BTC with 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ notes - more than 49 'sold'
Post by: RandyFolds on September 15, 2011, 08:45:16 PM
I sent you a PM an hour ago, I wanna buy 2 more :)
Got it?

Charlie

Hi Charlie, I'm in the kitchen, did not check my online presence ... 2 more no problem.
You can choose the serial number if you have any preference. The new batch came with numbers 2352001 - 2352100
special service :)
I'll be back in half an hour or so, got stuff in the oven.

Awesome  :D

Order 2352069! Order 2352069!


Title: Re: WTB BTC with 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ notes - more than 49 'sold'
Post by: Binford 6100 on September 15, 2011, 08:52:13 PM
Order 2352069! Order 2352069!

it's 1:50 chance. If he doesn't choose that one, would you order me to send it to your mom&dad?
this time with the 'exiled nigerian dethroned prince' style memo ;)


Title: Re: WTB BTC with 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ notes - more than 49 'sold'
Post by: RandyFolds on September 15, 2011, 08:59:34 PM
Order 2352069! Order 2352069!

it's 1:50 chance. If he doesn't choose that one, would you order me to send it to your mom&dad?
this time with the 'exiled nigerian dethroned prince' style memo ;)

I really can't believe how big of a hit that was. I highly recommend sending these to people without telling them. They get an anonymous package with a well-packaged, crisp hundred trillion dollar bill from Zimbabwe and all the can really say is, "What the fuck?".

You should include a service where you include notes composed with letters cut out of magazines.  ::)


Title: Re: WTB BTC with 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ notes [76]
Post by: bitcoinTrader on September 27, 2011, 02:29:13 AM
I received my hundred trillion note :)


Title: Re: WTB BTC with 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ notes [76]
Post by: Binford 6100 on September 28, 2011, 04:23:26 PM
I'd like to try a 1g silver bitcoin round.

Can you send an address to send the .5BTC to, you might have my details still on file

there's the issue of the shipping costs. they are usually covered with the first Z$ bill,
if you take one with the 1g coin, there will be no shipping costs.
single coin shipping would .315

I do not keep records of previous trades other than count of items exchanged, you'd need to PM me your address again.

as for the 1g rounds, they come in 2 types (look at the surface of B in the middle, it's either smooth of 'dotted'), can choose which one you want
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4484040/006.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4484040/007.png


Title: Re: WTB BTC with 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ notes [82]
Post by: WiseOldOwl on October 06, 2011, 09:27:54 PM
Received-
(1) 100 Trillion Dollar Z note.
(1) 1 Gram Silver Bitcoin Round.

Very on point, Thank You!


Title: Re: WTB BTC with 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ notes [76]
Post by: Stephen Gornick on April 14, 2012, 05:11:36 AM
Also evaluate the option to eventually go GLBSE and/or outsource the distribution.

So is this the same individual then?
 - https://glbse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9175&p=10945


Title: Re: WTB BTC with 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ notes [82]
Post by: Binford 6100 on September 27, 2012, 05:03:35 PM
Also evaluate the option to eventually go GLBSE and/or outsource the distribution.

So is this the same individual then?
 - https://glbse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9175&p=10945

probably was, the forum died in the meantime.
I would not mind selling the whole box with collectibles to the future Z$ exchanger (Z$, silver rounds, post stamps ...)


Title: Re: 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ bills for Bitcoins
Post by: Binford 6100 on October 27, 2012, 05:28:20 PM
I've setup a bitmit auction as 'buy now item' and 'more than one available'
it will automate checkout, enable escrow of bitcoins (you will be asked to unfreeze them once you receive the mail) & the auction is here (https://www.bitmit.net/en/trade/i/5846-100-trillion-zimbabwe-dollars-100-000-000-000-000-z-bill).

but the auction ID is not static. current id of the auction, part of the url, will change when next bill is relisted for sale whenever a bill is sold there.
they create new auction id for the remaining bills and the original url, previously advertised as open auction, with will lead to the now to a finished auction and not to the new, open one, with open buy option. this is a bit annoying. I'd prefer it the other way round.
let the this (https://www.bitmit.net/en/trade/i/5846-100-trillion-zimbabwe-dollars-100-000-000-000-000-z-bill) be a typical auction with more than 1 available items. when I sell one, the trade should get a new ID and have it's follow up there, leaving the url above unchanged as an open auction with more than 1 item available.

Right now I have no better idea how to permanently link to auctions at bitmit than link to "list of all my auctions/items for sale"
also I did not yet figured out how to enable buying more than 1 extra bill at bitmit nor how to receive email notifications when something traded. I figured out about my first transaction there by chance, only 2 days after it happened. There are sites I did not checked in a year or longer.


Title: Re: 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ bills for Bitcoins
Post by: Binford 6100 on October 27, 2012, 10:17:31 PM
over 100 bills served. (*)
thank you.

*) including other bills. Z$ count at 97 exchanged, 2 in the pipeline, 30+ in stock


Title: Re: 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ bills for Bitcoins
Post by: salfter on October 31, 2012, 09:07:30 PM
I've setup a bitmit auction as 'buy now item' and 'more than one available'
it will automate checkout, enable escrow of bitcoins (you will be asked to unfreeze them once you receive the mail) & the auction is here (https://www.bitmit.net/en/trade/i/5846-100-trillion-zimbabwe-dollars-100-000-000-000-000-z-bill).

Cool...any chance of an option to add a silver round instead of additional Zim$ notes?


Title: Re: 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ bills for Bitcoins
Post by: Binford 6100 on October 31, 2012, 09:44:48 PM
I've setup a bitmit auction ...

Cool...any chance of an option to add a silver round instead of additional Zim$ notes?

Like this? https://www.bitmit.net/en/trade/i/8876-1-gram-silver-art-coins-featuring-bitcoin
this way you can have the bills and coins. if you need any other combo, please let me know


Title: Re: 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ bills for Bitcoins
Post by: salfter on November 01, 2012, 02:20:25 PM
I've setup a bitmit auction ...

Cool...any chance of an option to add a silver round instead of additional Zim$ notes?

Like this? https://www.bitmit.net/en/trade/i/8876-1-gram-silver-art-coins-featuring-bitcoin
this way you can have the bills and coins. if you need any other combo, please let me know

Exactly...think I'll be putting in an order in a little bit. :-)


Title: Re: 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ bills - today for Bitcoins, tomorrow for free
Post by: Binford 6100 on November 15, 2012, 07:41:23 PM
Last week I served my "100th bill". All orders that week got something extra included in the letter. If you ordered via Bitmit and wondered why you received "too many things" that's why. I was celebrating and every order was eligible ; )

Now for something serious. I tried to have more 1g silver art rounds produced. Seems the mint is not accepting new orders now, will keep 'us' informed. 'Us' is Mick - the author of the design and me, potential sponsor of next batch. So I've increased prices by 10% 'cause there will be no more restrikes. Bills ask did not change. Shipping neither. Still almost 30 stamps to go before we switch to board members of the bitcoin foundation.


Title: Re: 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ bills - today for Bitcoins, tomorrow for free
Post by: Stephen Gornick on November 16, 2012, 04:00:31 AM
Still almost 30 stamps to go before we switch to board members of the bitcoin foundation.

Futher details on what that means?


Title: Re: 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ bills - today for Bitcoins, tomorrow for free
Post by: Binford 6100 on November 16, 2012, 05:17:23 AM
Still almost 30 stamps to go before we switch to board members of the bitcoin foundation.

Futher details on what that means?

hope this helps:

Type I coins are on the 0.85 eur stamp and the Type II coins are on the 1.10 eur stamp.
...
I do not intend to reorder stamps with bitcoin on them but rather will go with the bitcoin foundation board members in the near future. Charlie already approved the use of his face for the stamp, those will be the next 20 stamps. Face value depends on which ever post stamps I run out first. Customers from Europe or Worldwide can vote by placing an order. I also accept recommendations and read the forums. Or you can simply buy all my stock : )))

I had first batch of 20 stamps made last year, sold out in a week or two. Had them reprinted and added a new type (slightly different image and face value) and when those run out next stamps will feature Charlie from BitInstant. He already gave me permission to use his portrait on a customized stamp. No reply from Gavin. Not tried the other members yet since I had no previous contact with them I just did not want to jump on them with the post stamp idea. Anyway, lots of stamps on stock, will deal with it when type Charlie will be made and running low.

The idea is quite old, stamps with Bitcoin are nice idea (quoting Gavin 2011 here). But I want move on.
Btw the silver art rounds are no longer available from Mick, so another reason to stop promoting them on the post stamps.

Do you want more/less details?


Title: Re: 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ bills - today for Bitcoins, tomorrow for free
Post by: Stephen Gornick on November 16, 2012, 07:18:49 AM
Still almost 30 stamps to go before we switch to board members of the bitcoin foundation.

Futher details on what that means?

hope this helps: 


[ http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3888.msg1309500#msg1309500 ]

next stamps will feature Charlie from BitInstant

Ha!

Every day there's something Bitcoin-related I come across where I just shake my head and chuckle.


Title: Re: 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ bills - today for Bitcoins, tomorrow for free
Post by: salfter on November 19, 2012, 11:13:30 PM
Received everything in good condition last week...made a little display for my office with them:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/57535575/money-scaled.jpg (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/57535575/money.jpg)

I tried leaving a rating at #btotc:

Quote
[15:06] <salfter> ;;rate ptmhd 1 Received ZW$1T note & bitcoin 1g silver round in good condition
[15:06] <gribble> Error: You have to have received some ratings in order to rate other users.

 ???

If you're new to it, someone has to rate you first before you can enter a rating?

(My IRC nick is the same as my username here.)


Title: Re: 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ bills - today for Bitcoins, tomorrow for free
Post by: Binford 6100 on November 20, 2012, 11:39:22 AM
I like the display very much : )))

& I'm surprised that new user can not rate others unless he receives a rating first.
you're now rated at web of trust, the gribble bot should now process the ;;rate command w/o error


Title: Re: 100 trillion Zimbabwe $ bills - today for Bitcoins, tomorrow for free
Post by: salfter on November 20, 2012, 06:47:15 PM
I like the display very much : )))

& I'm surprised that new user can not rate others unless he receives a rating first.
you're now rated at web of trust, the gribble bot should now process the ;;rate command w/o error

"Z$ trillionaire"  :)

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[10:43] <salfter> ;;rate ptmhd 1 Received ZW$1T note & bitcoin 1g silver round in good condition
[10:44] <gribble> Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user ptmhd has been recorded.