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Title: Let's stop the scammers and bots!
Post by: bizfyn_ru on May 24, 2018, 05:40:02 PM
What is the problem?

The problem is that many bounty managers simply can not cope with their responsibilities. Except for some teams, I think you know them :) There are no complaints. But most look absolutely incompetent people in this field, or just lazy. I do not know how things are with Twitter, Facebook, but for blogs and videos they are clearly not prepared.

We see how they approve sites with 0 visitors per month, we see cheating subscribers in YouTube, we see 100% plagiarism, but people still receive tokens. I think that this is unfair, because MANY people work honestly! I'm not offended. I just want honesty and competent people in bounty managers! Below I gave a few examples, so as not to be unfounded.

Examples. (wait for the images to be downloaded)

Perhaps this is not the most vivid example, but I quickly found it :) The recent ICO Dragon Coin.

1. So. We go in the bounty thread of the dragon coin and click on participants spreadsheet.
Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2929306.0
http://image.ibb.co/hREpSx/1.jpg

2. Open the spreadsheet, we need to see the works that was approved.
Link on the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aRmh2wv2X_7E0eXP1PLWHV42lF8mxOKKAt_45unkm6c/edit#gid=1366613322
    I found this work after 5 minutes
http://image.ibb.co/fvw3nx/2.jpg

3. We look at work. Believe me, I know Russian well and immediately see that it's a simple google translate
http://image.ibb.co/gfyxfH/3.jpg

A little humor. So that you understand how stupid this is and funny  ;D ;D ;D This passage translates as follows: using the Blockchain tool from Dragon, run by drug addicts Dragon.
http://image.ibb.co/fC9TLH/4.jpg

4. We check the text for uniqueness. Ignore his post so that he does not give statistic us a double articles. As a result, uniquess <10%
http://image.ibb.co/iLS9Sx/5.jpg

This is not the most striking example. I saw more ridiculous works. Why managers do not see it? I do not know. Perhaps they do not know how to do their job.

What do I propose?

I invite our huge community to unite efforts. I will be able to track only Russian blogs and videos. But if we unite, then we will be able to calculate violators in huge numbers, helping bounty managers. Quite, perhaps we can unite and create an excellent team of bounty managers in future!

What we can?

1. We just have to join forces!
We in Russia have a saying "Alone in the field is not a warrior." Therefore, joining forces, we will be able to become stronger.

2. Our association in the future will turn into a team of professional bounty managers. I hope so.

3. So, I do not know how the reward for revealing violations will pass. But I think that "Merit" can become a unit in our society.

4. We can inform the management about the bad work of the manager., giving evidence.

What should you do, if you see violations?

1. Inform bounty manager about violations.

2. Provide evidence to the bounty manager.

3. If you suspect that the manager is involved in fraud, you need to send a report to our telegram channel.

4. If the fraud was identified, we send the report to the direct supervisors, creating a topic on the forum with evidence.

What to do if you are deceived and not paid the tokens?

I had experience with this situation. At the SwissBorg, some bounty members received tokens, but most did not receive tokens. The amounts were not small and we took up this matter. We created a closed group in telegram, wrote a collective complaint to the direct supervisor, invited him to the group. We discussed these questions for a month, but in the end, people who were with with us, receive everything they deserved. I think our community would be able to solve such problems very simply.

Thank you read to the end. Request to moderators! If I wrote a post in the wrong branch, then I ask you to move it.
http://image.ibb.co/mxjgqH/Logopit_1521444965770.jpg
Our contacts.
Email - bountypolice@gmail.com


Title: Re: Let's stop the scammers and bots!
Post by: bizfyn_ru on May 24, 2018, 05:40:52 PM
Hello everybody)
Today I will publish a review for two fans of freebies on YouTube. Assessment I do based on the service of socialblade.com
I'm not a professional in YouTube, but I can see the cheating.

Investigation

At the moment there is a bounty Vinchein company, where I found them. Since they had + 500% in the table :) I thought for what? decided to check.
Link on bounty company: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2349188.0.all
Link on spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dMSoEe6rWrsNSPFQs-PkIXqkXs73mBYylRc_oNF9pPs/edit#gid=1617073361

1. Well, let's go. Have found their in a spreadsheet, okay.
https://image.ibb.co/h9qUfH/PPD_BE9nx_IU.jpg

AND

https://image.ibb.co/gOK0nx/Pw1t_Uml_OFW8.jpg

2. We go on the YouTube channel

Link on first profile: Links were removed for security reasons
Link on second profile: Links were removed for security reasons

Start

1. Views, likes and dislikes.
We look, hmm 12k views wow, cool :) but why so few likes and dislikes ??
https://pp.userapi.com/c847020/v847020822/6491/xDVtH9t_3sw.jpg

2. Quality of video
Ok. Good.

3. Now it's time to see the statistics of the channel.

You can see here absolutely not stable statistics of the channel, even on views)
https://image.ibb.co/jNk7zc/Iwd9ru5_W1pc.jpg

Well, now the sweetest) Cheating subscribers) EEEE i love this sh//t))
https://image.ibb.co/nOVGaH/x9dzo_H7_YNc0.jpg

4. How to watch video statistic in 2 seconds?

My friend, I did a complete review specially. But you can check any video on YouTube in 2 seconds. Ready? Look)
https://pp.userapi.com/c845018/v845018822/ad83/-Dl_vXO8w4E.jpg

LOOK THIS.
https://image.ibb.co/cQyoNx/P2x4q_Qv_Da_D8.jpg

I hope you understand what I mean. I will not even check the other lady. Just show you the views, and you listen to the quality of her video)

I want to say that she is smarter. But still.

https://image.ibb.co/b8HMaH/Kp499_ve_po.jpg

AND

https://image.ibb.co/jzCR9c/PTv_Wl_Ei_HFg.jpg

The result

I wrote to the manager of this company. Thank you for reading to the end. Yours faithfully Bounty Police Dept. Do not be scammers!

THE PROBLEM IS SOLVED!


Title: Re: Let's stop the scammers and bots!
Post by: bizfyn_ru on May 24, 2018, 05:41:37 PM
Exclusive manual from bizfyn_ru about how to find a scamer and what to do about it
Hello guys, sorry for the long absence, there were problems from past bounties, now everything is ok. We continue!)

And so, today we will discuss, how to find a fraudster and what to do about it?

I'll give an example of the bounties that are going now, just randomly, I'll find them in the forum section. Looking a bit at the bounty, I chose the bounty for myself this is FaxPort. I wonder if everything is alright with them? Let's check! :)

Link on the bounty: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3247473.0

How are we looking for scammers?

1. Who is the bounty manager?
Firstly, it's worth paying attention to who the bounty manager is, here we see that the manager is essentially an unknown person on our forum.

https://pp.userapi.com/c847021/v847021546/59d70/5aUk-ytT-J8.jpg

2. Looking for a spreadsheet of participants

Usually it is either at the top, or under a certain bounty, or bottom.

https://pp.userapi.com/c840325/v840325546/8850c/LUMSfjcYrzE.jpg

3. View participants.

We open the table and see approved participants, and to whom the tokens were credited. I'll check blogs, so I'll open them.

https://pp.userapi.com/c846017/v846017546/55ce8/xmM9ORNqzPc.jpg

4. We find a suspicious participant.

https://image.ibb.co/eYpM5o/image_2018_05_21_15_12_46.png

5. Start check

Personally, I check participant on the old version of YouTube, where statistics are visible, this is for quick verification. How to make the old version of the youtube, you can use searche of google, there is nothing complicated.

https://image.ibb.co/jUbFFo/photo_2018_05_21_15_12_53.jpg

We see that this participant received all his views in one day. From this, we conclude that participant use cheat views.

6. SocialBlade

For more confidence, you can check it out at https://socialblade.com/
There you will see the full statistics of this channel, just specify the link to the channel.

https://pp.userapi.com/c834202/v834202371/10741b/S1DcXrl9Q9g.jpg

Here you can see that the person has screwed up subscribers and the channel in principle is not real.

7. We address to the manager

When contacting the manager, we indicate the participant and show him the evidence.

8. In total

After my appeal, the person I reviewed today canceled work, earlier he had been credited with steaks, now there is 0.

Remember that together we can change the situation! Thanks, best regards bizfyn_ru