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Title: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: CodexTheSloth on July 17, 2010, 08:08:36 AM
10 000 coins. PM me for address. I'll need to know what architecture you'll be running it on. whole thing is in a chroot so all you need to run it all you need is chroot, mount and the ability to run bash scripts. It's 338 megs so you need to give me a way to deliver. if your mail client can handle it then fine, otherwise provide scp, ftp or whatever.


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: Babylon on July 17, 2010, 08:33:56 AM
At current bitcoin to dollar exchange that's 500 dollars.  I am curious what sort of software you are selling that is worth that much.


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: Hiroe on July 17, 2010, 08:34:46 AM
That's not very much information to go on. what card do you have? how many khash/s? This based on the real client or is it custom? What cards will it run on?


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: CodexTheSloth on July 17, 2010, 09:31:49 AM
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At current bitcoin to dollar exchange that's 500 dollars.  I am curious what sort of software you are selling that is worth that much.
Yeah, I am an idiot and it is very late/early where I am. probably not the best time to be selling software. let's say 200BC (5$?) for a copy of the software and 1000 for an exclusive licence if you get in before Sunday.

I'm getting ~3700 khash/s on my 9800. It's a custom client written in cuda for the maths. it writes to a wallet file that the modified client that comes with it can use.

As it's written in cuda I think it will only run on nvidia cards but I could be wrong, honestly I don't know much about graphic card programming and this could probably be done more efficiently.

I'll be back sometime this sunday, if you want more information respond fast.


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: bitcoin2paysafe on July 18, 2010, 01:00:59 PM
CodexTheSloth is a fucking scammer!
I send him 350 BTC for the cuda-client an he promised me to make it open source and he wrote:

"congratulations, you're the victim of the first bitcoin scam."

You are an asshole!



Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2010, 02:04:10 PM
CodexTheSloth is a fucking scammer!
I send him 350 BTC for the cuda-client an he promised me to make it open source and he wrote:

"congratulations, you're the victim of the first bitcoin scam."

You are an asshole!



Sorry to hear about this.To risk destroying your reputation and rip someone off for a measly $5 is pretty low.I might suggest to the forum moderators they have two sticky threads one for scammers and one for honest traders to get feedback.To scam a site that is full of programmers and sysadmins is probably not a smart idea at all.Bitcoin needs  detectives to track down scammers - any volunteers?

I also started a thread where people are offering escrow services to lessen the chance of being conned.


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: dete on July 18, 2010, 02:36:42 PM
Damn, Paysafe!  I was 99% sure this guy's claim was bogus, and came very close to posting my opinions as to why...  Coulda saved you some BTC if I'd posted sooner.  Sorry!


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: RHorning on July 18, 2010, 03:05:28 PM
There are a whole bunch of people being paranoid about "special interests" getting involved in regulating Bitcoins such as a bank getting "jealous" over some supposed advantages that Bitcoins has to offer.

For myself, I think if courts, government regulations, and more get involved it will be because of some stupid stunt like this which will end up having people going to a judicial authority to seek redress for grievances.  More to the point, if this was a scam it would be illegal and potentially could be prosecuted as fraud, or the target of a civil liability suit.

I just wonder when the day will come that a judicial order to return bitcoins will happen?  Claiming "I lost my wallet" or some other stupid excuse isn't going to work and will only result in contempt charges being added on top of the mess.


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: Bitcoiner on July 18, 2010, 04:58:50 PM
There are a whole bunch of people being paranoid about "special interests" getting involved in regulating Bitcoins such as a bank getting "jealous" over some supposed advantages that Bitcoins has to offer.

For myself, I think if courts, government regulations, and more get involved it will be because of some stupid stunt like this which will end up having people going to a judicial authority to seek redress for grievances.  More to the point, if this was a scam it would be illegal and potentially could be prosecuted as fraud, or the target of a civil liability suit.

I just wonder when the day will come that a judicial order to return bitcoins will happen?  Claiming "I lost my wallet" or some other stupid excuse isn't going to work and will only result in contempt charges being added on top of the mess.

I guess it isn't enough to publish his address, since he might then transfer the money to others who have no idea that the money was illicitly obtained...

 


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: Ground Loop on July 18, 2010, 06:04:26 PM
Bastard.  I had my own hunch, given how thin and incompetent his claims were.
(Myself, I'm not about to run anyone else's binary as root, but that's just me.)

Anyhow, it's now an interesting question. 
bitcoin2paysafe should post his paid address.

If I understand correctly (and I may not), anyone can now follow the progress of those "dirty" coins through the system.

If CodexTheSloth spends his coins on physical product, we can send out the tire-iron goons.  It's effectively marked bills, so any future vendor he deals with should see this thread.  Or something like that..


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: bitcoin2paysafe on July 18, 2010, 07:02:56 PM
My mistake, next time i will use an escrow service. I love bitcoin because it is not reversible. Learning by doing :-)

CodexTheSloth bitcoin adress is 13PRjAZsCx12na84hwjc3uMJkLhU5vDuYm

CodexTheSloth wrote:

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for 300 bitcoins I'll release it publicly to sourceforge or some such, hows that sound?

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alright, send them here "13PRjAZsCx12na84hwjc3uMJkLhU5vDuYm" Once I receive payment I'll set up the page.ceive confirmation I'll set up a page. I should warn you, the code isn't very clean. I'll document it some more later. I'm trying to remain as anonymous as I can due to my countries strict cryptography export laws.

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congratulations, you're the victim of the first bitcoin scam.


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: Babylon on July 18, 2010, 07:59:02 PM
Does this forum not log IP addresses?  Of course he could be using TOR, but no way to know without checking...


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2010, 07:43:01 AM
Bounty hunters paid in bitcoins.....


Am i right?

 8)


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: ByteCoin on July 19, 2010, 01:36:08 PM
Bitcoin relies on "mutual agreement". The central technology, the block chain merely ensures that it's very hard to generate a block chain that's not mutually agreed. What the block chain MEANS depends on what we mutually agree that it means.

If everyone agrees that CodexTheSloth ripped you off then they could ensure that they do not accept payments from 13PRjAZsCx12na84hwjc3uMJkLhU5vDuYm. If some merchant does accept payments from that address then we could agree that we all refuse to accept payments from that merchant.

Alternatively, we could change our BitCoin software so that it doesn't include transactions from that CodexTheSloth's address when generating blocks so that his transactions stay unconfirmed.

This particular example is rather petty to go to that effort but for a worse case it could be made to happen. I'm somewhat concerned that this could end up as a tyranny of the majority.

ByteCoin


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: jimbobway on July 19, 2010, 02:45:22 PM
Seems like the guy deleted his profile on the msg board.  Here is what Google cache says:

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Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: semyazza on July 19, 2010, 03:43:39 PM

This particular example is rather petty to go to that effort but for a worse case it could be made to happen. I'm somewhat concerned that this could end up as a tyranny of the majority.

ByteCoin

This would not necessarily be a bad thing. Tyranny of the majority is the natural possible outcome of a free market. Someone eventually will take payment from those coins if it is beneficial to the seller. Consumers chose who they wish to do business with. That's the great thing about free markets.

First post. I'll post an introduction somewhere else another time.



Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: knightmb on July 19, 2010, 04:51:56 PM
If that is the same person, then he's been using the same username for a long time, which will make it very easy to track him down.


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: Bitcoiner on July 19, 2010, 04:52:33 PM
...

This particular example is rather petty to go to that effort but for a worse case it could be made to happen. I'm somewhat concerned that this could end up as a tyranny of the majority.

ByteCoin

This is probably a function better left as part of a reputation system rather than within the monetary system itself.


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: Hiroe on July 19, 2010, 07:43:34 PM
He may have gotten his name from the great simoleon caper. (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,982610,00.html)


Title: Re: cuda scamming from 2010-07-18
Post by: bitcoin2paysafe on November 22, 2010, 01:42:55 PM
Is it right that the scammer 13PRjAZsCx12na84hwjc3uMJkLhU5vDuYm http://theymos.ath.cx:64150/bbe/address/13PRjAZsCx12na84hwjc3uMJkLhU5vDuYm sent 20BC to omegadraconis? http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=597
Maybe omegadraconis knows this guy.


Title: Re: cuda scamming from 2010-07-18
Post by: lfm on November 22, 2010, 04:43:20 PM
Is it right that the scammer 13PRjAZsCx12na84hwjc3uMJkLhU5vDuYm http://theymos.ath.cx:64150/bbe/address/13PRjAZsCx12na84hwjc3uMJkLhU5vDuYm sent 20BC to omegadraconis? http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=597
Maybe omegadraconis knows this guy.


Indeed the block chain does lead there. There were some steps in between that would, I think, need to be confirmed before a final conclusion could be reached.


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: jimbobway on November 22, 2010, 04:49:09 PM
Hmmm???

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhensler/


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: bitcoin2paysafe on November 22, 2010, 09:41:35 PM
Hmmm???

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhensler/

jhensler? Is that the guy who send the 20 BC?


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: jimbobway on November 22, 2010, 09:49:11 PM
No, I just googled 'omegadraconis'.  Not sure if that's the 'omegadraconis' we are looking for, but the guy does look technical.  Sorry if I made this a witchhunt.  :(


Title: Re: cuda scamming from 2010-07-18
Post by: bitcoin2paysafe on November 22, 2010, 09:59:39 PM
No, I just googled 'omegadraconis'.  Not sure if that's the 'omegadraconis' we are looking for, but the guy does look technical.  Sorry if I made this a witchhunt.  :(

omegadraconis has received a payment about 20 BC from a guy who has received 200 BC from the scammer. I don't believe that omegadraconis is the scammer. Maybe omegadraconis knows him. I sent omegadraconis a PM.

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=597
Last Active:  November 20, 2010, 03:20 am


Title: Re: cuda scamming from 2010-07-18
Post by: omegadraconis on December 03, 2010, 01:41:37 AM
No, I just googled 'omegadraconis'.  Not sure if that's the 'omegadraconis' we are looking for, but the guy does look technical.  Sorry if I made this a witchhunt.  :(

omegadraconis has received a payment about 20 BC from a guy who has received 200 BC from the scammer. I don't believe that omegadraconis is the scammer. Maybe omegadraconis knows him. I sent omegadraconis a PM.

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=597
Last Active:  November 20, 2010, 03:20 am

So i just noticed this thread (and your pm) as I have not been on the forums for a while. I am not the guy you are looking for I am afraid, though that is my flickr account and I am a technical guy. The 20btcs you are talking about came from http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=588.0 . Hiroe is the one who sent them to me, I do not know Hiroe outside of that single transaction. Hope that helps in someway.


Title: Re: cuda scamming from 2010-07-18
Post by: theymos on December 03, 2010, 02:26:02 AM
So i just noticed this thread (and your pm) as I have not been on the forums for a while. I am not the guy you are looking for I am afraid, though that is my flickr account and I am a technical guy. The 20btcs you are talking about came from http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=588.0 . Hiroe is the one who sent them to me, I do not know Hiroe outside of that single transaction. Hope that helps in someway.

Interesting. We move closer to finding the scammer! Who sent Hiroe 400 coins at 14PG5GCfmGfr2wWLLS9V9B2YeeqiwzNyxj? Whoever that is received coins directly from the scammer.

13PR (scammer) (http://blockexplorer.com/address/13PRjAZsCx12na84hwjc3uMJkLhU5vDuYm) -> 1C3N (http://blockexplorer.com/address/1C3NEdCGYAYFk7quicmkuvFLZ6FQ1gyNJM) -> 14PG (Hiroe) (http://blockexplorer.com/address/14PG5GCfmGfr2wWLLS9V9B2YeeqiwzNyxj) -> 1HKY (omegadraconis) (http://blockexplorer.com/address/1HKYXgu9uLp8AQXabYrqbmAGqS73huNM7K)


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: davout on December 03, 2010, 06:47:01 AM
This makes me think I should definitely open an automatic bitcoin laundering service.
Pay a small fee and get your bitcoins nicely laundered!


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: ribuck on December 03, 2010, 10:54:46 AM
It seems there will also be a huge market for Bitcoin Private Investigation services.


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: davout on December 03, 2010, 11:02:02 AM
It seems there will also be a huge market for Bitcoin Private Investigation services.

Going to be pretty impossible after I launch this service :)

Scammers, send your funds to an address,
people seeking to get extra coins send 5 times as much clean money to the same address.

Funds get redispatched between lots of addresses with random amounts,
scammer pays a percentage fee, I get a share, people who provided clean coins get their share


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: Essjay on December 03, 2010, 12:10:29 PM
Scammers, send your funds to an address,
people seeking to get extra coins send 5 times as much clean money to the same address.

For bonus points, occasionally refuse to return the scammers' money!


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: jimbobway on December 03, 2010, 12:12:50 PM
It seems there will also be a huge market for Bitcoin Private Investigation services.

Going to be pretty impossible after I launch this service :)

Scammers, send your funds to an address,
people seeking to get extra coins send 5 times as much clean money to the same address.
 
Funds get redispatched between lots of addresses with random amounts,
scammer pays a percentage fee, I get a share, people who provided clean coins get their share


Ummm this thread is supposed to be about solving a scam, not starting new ones.


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: mikegogulski on December 03, 2010, 01:36:32 PM
This makes me think I should definitely open an automatic bitcoin laundering service.
Pay a small fee and get your bitcoins nicely laundered!

Great idea! http://bitcoinlaundry.com/


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: davout on December 03, 2010, 02:18:54 PM
This makes me think I should definitely open an automatic bitcoin laundering service.
Pay a small fee and get your bitcoins nicely laundered!

Great idea! http://bitcoinlaundry.com/

Glad you like it :D
I think you're missing some key features though


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: mikegogulski on December 03, 2010, 02:27:37 PM
This makes me think I should definitely open an automatic bitcoin laundering service.
Pay a small fee and get your bitcoins nicely laundered!

Great idea! http://bitcoinlaundry.com/

Glad you like it :D
I think you're missing some key features though

Meh, I'm first to market :)


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: davout on December 03, 2010, 02:36:16 PM
This makes me think I should definitely open an automatic bitcoin laundering service.
Pay a small fee and get your bitcoins nicely laundered!

Great idea! http://bitcoinlaundry.com/

Glad you like it :D
I think you're missing some key features though

Meh, I'm first to market :)

Altavista was first too =)


Title: Re: Selling cuda enabled client
Post by: tyler on December 03, 2010, 05:23:59 PM
This makes me think I should definitely open an automatic bitcoin laundering service.
Pay a small fee and get your bitcoins nicely laundered!

Great idea! http://bitcoinlaundry.com/

Glad you like it :D
I think you're missing some key features though

Meh, I'm first to market :)

Altavista was first too =)

LOLOLOLOL