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Title: The End of Britain
Post by: Kenshin on January 23, 2014, 07:27:55 PM
WARNING: What you're about to see is controversial, and may be alarming to some audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.

http://pro.moneyweek.com/myk-eob/EMYKP350/?a=5&o=170600&s=176716&u=1305301&l=299247&r=MC&g=0&h=true


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: dank on January 23, 2014, 07:30:39 PM
It's the end of a little more than just Britain.


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: hilariousandco on January 23, 2014, 08:02:19 PM
WARNING: What you're about to see is controversial, and may be alarming to some audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.

http://pro.moneyweek.com/myk-eob/EMYKP350/?a=5&o=170600&s=176716&u=1305301&l=299247&r=MC&g=0&h=true

"We're not here to scare you":

Quote
The End of
Britain

WARNING: What you're about to see is controversial, and may be alarming to some audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


How long is the video, although I'm sure it's nothing new?


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: Kenshin on January 23, 2014, 08:30:01 PM
You know what I stop after 5 minutes. No idea how long it is.  :)


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: Nik1ab on January 23, 2014, 08:59:05 PM
WARNING: What you're about to see is controversial, and may be alarming to some audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.

http://pro.moneyweek.com/myk-eob/EMYKP350/?a=5&o=170600&s=176716&u=1305301&l=299247&r=MC&g=0&h=true
Could you give us an idea on what it is all about?


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: Kenshin on January 23, 2014, 09:05:57 PM
WARNING: What you're about to see is controversial, and may be alarming to some audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.

http://pro.moneyweek.com/myk-eob/EMYKP350/?a=5&o=170600&s=176716&u=1305301&l=299247&r=MC&g=0&h=true
Could you give us an idea on what it is all about?

It is about how Britain had fallen badly into financial debts. And after watching this makes me want to leave UK and move to another country.  :P


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: hilariousandco on January 23, 2014, 09:07:15 PM
You know what I stop after 5 minutes. No idea how long it is.  :)

WARNING: What you're about to see is controversial, and may be alarming to some audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.

http://pro.moneyweek.com/myk-eob/EMYKP350/?a=5&o=170600&s=176716&u=1305301&l=299247&r=MC&g=0&h=true
Could you give us an idea on what it is all about?

Listened to it all and it's at least 30 minutes long and nothing I didn't know already. To summarise: Debt is bad and isn't sustainable; collapse is inevitable, but they then try to sell you a subscription to Money Week after their rampant fear-mongering as if it's the answer to all yours and the worlds economic problems, which I'm sure is quite alarming and effective to the average ignorant pleb who is then happy to shell out £100 on a subscription if it means he now has the secrets to hold onto his money when the economy goes arse over tit. Just watch a documentary or video on youtube about debt or some shit.


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: pedrog on January 23, 2014, 09:38:05 PM
Those infomercials are way too long...


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: Kenshin on January 23, 2014, 09:40:50 PM
Those infomercials are way too long...

Actually it is a remake or another video by them as well. But the last version was a lot better, at least there was some chart and graphic to look at. This one is just subtitle.


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: hilariousandco on January 23, 2014, 09:42:14 PM
Those infomercials are way too long...

And really fucking dull. I love how at the beginning they claim to have spent a lot of money on research and on the presentation, then they just show you something a highschooler could've knocked up on powerpoint in class.

Those infomercials are way too long...

Actually it is a remake or another video by them as well. But the last version was a lot better, at least there was some chart and graphic to look at. This one is just subtitle.

There's a few graphs. So why did you share this exactly?  ;D


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: Nik1ab on January 23, 2014, 09:50:37 PM
WARNING: What you're about to see is controversial, and may be alarming to some audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.

http://pro.moneyweek.com/myk-eob/EMYKP350/?a=5&o=170600&s=176716&u=1305301&l=299247&r=MC&g=0&h=true
Could you give us an idea on what it is all about?

It is about how Britain had fallen badly into financial debts. And after watching this makes me want to leave UK and move to another country.  :P
Tell me something I don't know already.


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: tspacepilot on January 24, 2014, 04:05:47 AM
WARNING: What you're about to see is controversial, and may be alarming to some audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.

http://pro.moneyweek.com/myk-eob/EMYKP350/?a=5&o=170600&s=176716&u=1305301&l=299247&r=MC&g=0&h=true

Sounds challenging.  Maybe I should use my discretion and not watch this one :)


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: sana8410 on April 23, 2014, 09:36:22 AM
It is functionally impossible for Britain to suffer a Greek style collapse. It is impossible for a country that controls its own currency.


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: Lethn on April 23, 2014, 09:38:14 AM
Fool, haven't you heard of hyperinflation? If it can happen to America it can happen to the UK as well.


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: 5flags on April 23, 2014, 09:49:11 AM
It is functionally impossible for Britain to suffer a Greek style collapse. It is impossible for a country that controls its own currency.

You're right, it won't be a Greek style collapse. It will be a peculiarly British collapse. The only tool Britain has (and this applies doubly to the US) to reduce the debt is to devalue the currency, inflating the debt to nothingness.

I will be glad of my Satoshis when that happens :)


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: jinjuro on April 23, 2014, 09:57:08 AM
America is next...


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 23, 2014, 01:32:57 PM
The breakdown of UK will happen part by part.... First the Scots will secede. Then Northern Ireland will decide to breakaway from the Union, and merge with Ireland. Wales will be the next one. Isle of Man, Cornwall and the Channel islands will follow.


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: 5flags on April 23, 2014, 04:24:44 PM
The breakdown of UK will happen part by part.... First the Scots will secede. Then Northern Ireland will decide to breakaway from the Union, and merge with Ireland. Wales will be the next one. Isle of Man, Cornwall and the Channel islands will follow.

I'm of the view that Scotland will not secede. Without the pound, and without membership of the EU, Scotland would find it very tough going.

And there's precisely no chance of NI rejoining the Republic any time soon. As for Wales...well...who cares? :)


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: Sithara007 on April 23, 2014, 05:24:04 PM
I'm of the view that Scotland will not secede.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2609186/Darlings-pro-union-campaign-dismal-Senior-Tories-alarmed-former-Labour-Chancellors-lacklustre-performance.html


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: Fatpony on April 23, 2014, 05:59:31 PM
If you open the Pandora box then please have Brains to figure out bad things are going to happen to you and not only to other countries.... USA with the help of friends did that with Kosovo, now many countries will follow. Just think why some countries didn't recognized it, mostly countries that have similar problems as Serbia did.

But USA is kinda safe for now, and they need countries in Europe not to be stable... But in a near future i can imagine some states in USA will seek for independence....


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: DooMAD on April 23, 2014, 06:02:33 PM
Pretty sure they could have summed this up in under a minute.  Waaaayyyyy toooooooo loooooooonnnnggg.


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: Balthazar on April 23, 2014, 06:05:40 PM
Wrong topic name, this should be named "The end of United Kingdom". Britain is still Britain even without Scotland or Wales...

But USA is kinda safe for now, and they need countries in Europe not to be stable...
Texas provides a large part of the GDP and not so happy about it.


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: Fatpony on April 23, 2014, 06:15:49 PM
Wrong topic name, this should be named "The end of United Kingdom". Britain is still Britain even without Scotland or Wales...

But USA is kinda safe for now, and they need countries in Europe not to be stable...
Texas provides a large part of the GDP and not so happy about it.

That is why I said for now. If I remember right there were talks about California leaving the USA and going for "solo" but i might be wrong. But USA opened the box, so we can only sit and watch if it will turn to bite them in the ass...


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 23, 2014, 06:25:55 PM
If you open the Pandora box then please have Brains to figure out bad things are going to happen to you and not only to other countries.... USA with the help of friends did that with Kosovo, now many countries will follow. Just think why some countries didn't recognized it, mostly countries that have similar problems as Serbia did.

The US, Turkey and UK were the only NATO members who wanted to bomb Serbia. The other members such as Germany, Italy and France were unwilling to engage in Kosovo.


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: Fatpony on April 23, 2014, 07:00:05 PM
If you open the Pandora box then please have Brains to figure out bad things are going to happen to you and not only to other countries.... USA with the help of friends did that with Kosovo, now many countries will follow. Just think why some countries didn't recognized it, mostly countries that have similar problems as Serbia did.

The US, Turkey and UK were the only NATO members who wanted to bomb Serbia. The other members such as Germany, Italy and France were unwilling to engage in Kosovo.

I didn't talk about attack/bombing the country I was talking about taking a part of that country by force. Countries that didn't recognized Kosovo are the countries that have similar issues, like Spain for example. Turkey and Greece have issues between them over the Cyprus and that the reason why Greece didn't recognized it, and the fact that they are both Orthodox Christians, and Turkey recognized it because Kosovo has mainly Muslim population.



Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: tspacepilot on April 23, 2014, 07:28:17 PM
If you really consider it, Britain is the "British Isles" which will be existing for quite a long time no matter what government(s) is/are installed there.  In that context, the end of Britain won't be happening until some huge changes in plate techtonics go down.  BTC won't really have an effect :)

Wrong topic name, this should be named "The end of United Kingdom". Britain is still Britain even without Scotland or Wales...

But USA is kinda safe for now, and they need countries in Europe not to be stable...
Texas provides a large part of the GDP and not so happy about it.


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: DooMAD on April 27, 2014, 06:58:31 PM
Found an interesting article that debunks the vast majority of the video:  http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/moneyweek-and-their-end-of-britain.html (http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/moneyweek-and-their-end-of-britain.html)

Looks like Moneyweek has about as much journalistic integrity as Newsweek and should be derided equally.


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: tspacepilot on April 27, 2014, 11:09:29 PM
Found an interesting article that debunks the vast majority of the video:  http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/moneyweek-and-their-end-of-britain.html (http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/moneyweek-and-their-end-of-britain.html)

Looks like Moneyweek has about as much journalistic integrity as Newsweek and should be derided equally.

Right, that thing about attempted doxing of satoshi by Newsweek was pretty terrible both in principle and in how it turned out for them.  I guess we can start to see that many of these old-school commercial magazines work with a similar MO.


Title: Re: The End of Britain
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 28, 2014, 06:33:10 AM
I didn't talk about attack/bombing the country I was talking about taking a part of that country by force. Countries that didn't recognized Kosovo are the countries that have similar issues, like Spain for example. Turkey and Greece have issues between them over the Cyprus and that the reason why Greece didn't recognized it, and the fact that they are both Orthodox Christians, and Turkey recognized it because Kosovo has mainly Muslim population.

Spain supported the bombing campaign verbally, although they didn't participated in it physically. Greece, on the other hand opposed the bombing. And dozens of Greek volunteers served in Kosovo on the Serbian side (alongside volunteers from Russia, Bulgaria, Georgia and Armenia).