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Post by: KingOfSports on January 23, 2014, 09:25:01 PM
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Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: CodingSerivce on January 23, 2014, 09:47:13 PM
thats happen to everyone .

"dont cry like a child after you talked like a big-man"

I lost about $20,000 at just-dice and I won it back .

its just a game .


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: bit777 on January 23, 2014, 09:52:35 PM
Stay strong.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: Acidyo on January 23, 2014, 10:31:18 PM
Stay strong bro!


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: kf_ on January 23, 2014, 11:20:47 PM
Glad you're doing better!


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: mediaspree on January 24, 2014, 12:59:10 AM
You might want to remove the Casinos from your signature  :D


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: KingOfSports on January 24, 2014, 01:01:54 AM
You might want to remove the Casinos from your signature  :D
Thank you all for your kind words of advice.

In response to this quote, I am simply getting paid for my signature. The casino in question offers me the highest paid for my signature. I do not gamble the payment, I immediately have withdrawn it.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: auswalk on January 24, 2014, 04:58:23 AM
This is why the US congress is ignorant. They need to regulate online gaming nationwide. By prohibiting it, bitcoin and these gambling sites have popped up to fill the need.

You can't stop online gaming so you need to regulate it so true problem gamblers can be stopped before it gets to this point.

I'm glad you got help.

Gambling by itself is a fruitless pursuit especially where the odds are against you. It's just mathematics over the long term and you will lose.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 24, 2014, 05:38:03 AM
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Thank you for your story. I should probably write something up myself. I'm a lot more cautious and selective with the casinos I choose to play with, but even so, it's still a lose-lose situation. Some of them have gotten so good at slowly draining your roll it's amazing. While I'm not nearly as bad as I used to be, I hit one up about 3x a week - 3x a week I lose, no kidding. Of course there are times I don't play at all... but I'm just grateful I'm not losing 10+BTC at a time like last year. Literally, it was nothing for me to have 200+ BTC in my 'disposable' wallet reserved for gambling only. I don't think I need to say that it's gone. I paid plenty casino employees' salary (and they know it), but never again. Now I stay below .1, on occasion up to .5.

No, I don't feel sorry for myself nor am I angry at the casinos or myself. I accepted that fate when I made the deposit. Here I am, thinking I'm testing the waters with small deposits... but that shit adds up, and quick. I came to the conclusion a long time ago that there are NO fair casinos (this is my rationale behind the testing), no matter how much you drop.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: daweller on January 24, 2014, 06:13:47 AM
It's just fun , unless you abuse it
More people die from alcohol, fast food, smoking
Pretty much anything can be abused
Only reason why the govt wants to stop online gambling  because they see $$$ ( they  want to ban it and then have a monopoly with their own online gambling sites... and of course they will tell you it's ok because the run some 2-bit gambling addiction program )
just go to youtube and look up 'my strange addiction' and youll see that people abuse just about anything


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: auswalk on January 24, 2014, 06:38:53 AM
I just think bitcoin's value is most certainly tied to the gambling you can do with it. Bitcoin is basically "the ghost" from the movie "The Patriot". Mel Gibson's character was created b/c the British general used brutal tactics. The govt is using the same tactics to ban online gambling. So here comes bitcopin.  It's not a question of morality, it's a question of facing the facts.

I suppose the argument is, only a small portion of gamblers will go to the lengths of learning bitcoin and buying them to gamble, whereas if there were sites you can deposit directly using fiat, then more people would do it which clearly is bad for society.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: alani123 on January 24, 2014, 07:16:33 AM
This made me shiver, several times... Thank you for sharing your story with us.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: Moebius327 on January 24, 2014, 07:38:28 AM
I think there should be an option to IP ban yourself from gambling sites like just-dice or at least some helpful information for addicts. For some people it's fun to gamble, for others it's an addiction.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: Mitchell on January 24, 2014, 08:35:47 AM
I think there should be an option to IP ban yourself from gambling sites like just-dice or at least some helpful information for addicts. For some people it's fun to gamble, for others it's an addiction.
  • Get the IP of a gambling website.
  • Locate the "hosts" file on your computer (normally at "c:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\").
  • Open the "hosts" file.
  • Add this on an empty line: "-ip gambling website- 127.0.0.1"
  • Save the file. Now you can't access that gambling site.
  • Have fun doing something else ;)


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: Kyraishi on January 24, 2014, 08:39:11 AM
Better than showing blank page.
show " don't gamble"


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: Moebius327 on January 24, 2014, 08:40:49 AM
I think there should be an option to IP ban yourself from gambling sites like just-dice or at least some helpful information for addicts. For some people it's fun to gamble, for others it's an addiction.
  • Get the IP of a gambling website.
  • Locate the "hosts" file on your computer (normally at "c:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\").
  • Open the "hosts" file.
  • Add this on an empty line: "-ip gambling website- 127.0.0.1"
  • Save the file. Now you can't access that gambling site.
  • Have fun doing something else ;)

Thanks for your input. The real reason for such an option is it to be non-reversible. And of course there are ways to bypass this as well. But for the average addict gambler it would be nice to have such option.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: dooglus on January 24, 2014, 09:08:05 AM
Hello everyone.  I was asked by Dooglus and Deb of Just-Dice if I would be willing to share my story to possibly help others who have the issues I have.

Thanks for writing up your story KoS.  I'll make sure Deb posts it to the Just-Dice blog.  Good luck staying off the gambling sites.  If you want your IP or account blocked on Just-Dice, drop me an email at the address at the end of the FAQ tab.

I came to the conclusion a long time ago that there are NO fair casinos (this is my rationale behind the testing), no matter how much you drop.

This shouldn't be a matter of opinion.  With the advent of provably fair casinos you can verify for yourself whether they are cheating you or not.  Of course, they all have a house edge, and so in that sense they aren't "fair".  Most only pay out 2x for a bet that wins 49.5% of the time.  That's a losing proposition long term.

I think there should be an option to IP ban yourself from gambling sites like just-dice or at least some helpful information for addicts.

There is.  Email the address at the end of the FAQ asking to have your account or your IP address banned from play, and it will happen.  Many people have already done this.  I never reverse a ban either, no matter how much you beg, or insist that "my friend did it as a joke".  There are links to gambling addiction resources in the FAQ too.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: Moebius327 on January 24, 2014, 09:39:23 AM
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There is.  Email the address at the end of the FAQ asking to have your account or your IP address banned from play, and it will happen.  Many people have already done this.  I never reverse a ban either, no matter how much you beg, or insist that "my friend did it as a joke".  There are links to gambling addiction resources in the FAQ too.


I was not aware of this. Definitely the right thing to do!


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: b!z on January 24, 2014, 12:31:39 PM
Gambling addiction can cause big issues and I'm glad you got past it. Stay strong.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: KingOfSports on January 24, 2014, 12:44:36 PM
Hello everyone.  I was asked by Dooglus and Deb of Just-Dice if I would be willing to share my story to possibly help others who have the issues I have.

Thanks for writing up your story KoS.  I'll make sure Deb posts it to the Just-Dice blog.  Good luck staying off the gambling sites.  If you want your IP or account blocked on Just-Dice, drop me an email at the address at the end of the FAQ tab.

Thanks Dooglus. Its quite shocking actually but being in the just-dice chat doesn't bother me or give me a feeling of weakness. Obviously if that changes or I have any urge to gamble I will let you know immediately and block my IP. As I said before, that feeling of wanting to gamble isn't there anymore. The thought disgusts me.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 24, 2014, 01:56:22 PM
This shouldn't be a matter of opinion.  With the advent of provably fair casinos you can verify for yourself whether they are cheating you or not.  Of course, they all have a house edge, and so in that sense they aren't "fair".  Most only pay out 2x for a bet that wins 49.5% of the time.  That's a losing proposition long term.
Perhaps I should've clarified - I speaking about slots, not dice. I played a few dice games before but never really got into it, slots are my vice. In terms of provable fair, there's no way to determine that the difficulty level is being manipulated, or that real player are winning jackpots and such. That type of fairness can't be proved.



Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: RGBKey on January 24, 2014, 02:12:17 PM
Dooglus is the most responsible bitcoin casino owner I know. He and Deb really do care about other people and it really impresses me.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: romerun on January 24, 2014, 02:35:56 PM
Wealth is addiction


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: Lucky Cris on January 24, 2014, 02:40:47 PM
Dooglus is the most responsible bitcoin casino owner I know. He and Deb really do care about other people and it really impresses me.

I'm not familiar with them but I don't doubt it, opinion based just from this post alone. It speaks volumes... requesting OP to share his story so others don't have the same fate, and willing to block a person's IP by request? Wow. Not typical casino behavior.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: cointron on January 24, 2014, 02:44:49 PM
Fish


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: KingOfSports on January 25, 2014, 03:48:56 PM
Bumping for anyone with a problem or think they may who hasn't seen this.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: Rawted on January 25, 2014, 04:36:47 PM
Great story, thank you for sharing. Shame you had to go through all of that. I hope you stay strong in the future bud.

EDIT: Just saw you owe debts to a very close friend of mine. Admitting to your mistakes is one thing, let's work on the personal responsibility angle and get people paid back.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: Stunna on January 25, 2014, 05:35:40 PM
I think it's very noble of you to admit you have a problem and seek help. Gambling addiction is incredibly destructive to not only the ones who get addicted but all their loved ones and friends. From my experience I've found that the people most prone to this are of course the people who win very big and have a rare streak at the beginning. It's important to know when to walk away and to understand that gambling should be for entertainment purposes only. A good friend of mine got addicted to poker and it led him to betray the trust of his friends to get more money to play with. It's important for you to improve your situation now rather than waiting. I'm optimistic about your situation though as you've recognized the issue and are working to solve it.

I wish you the best of luck in this endeavor and 100% believe you can do it. Stay strong!


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: BigBitz on January 25, 2014, 08:41:12 PM
I see you mentioned me... and also paying me back - that would be real good.

I've been calling your house before but then I stopped as I thought about how it might turn it if your parents knew you were in such a bad place.

I am glad you have "found" yourself.

You still owe me 2BTC though - the USD equivalent is not important here. 2BTC is.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: nonny12 on January 25, 2014, 09:51:02 PM
Taking the optimists' point of view, you are ahead of the game. People go through the same thing you went through, but at a much later stage in life. You are young and still have many years of earning power ahead of you. Had you fallen into this same trap in your 40s, you could have lost your house, life savings, cars, you name it.

Now that you are a stronger person, hopefully you will have the experience and willpower necessary to keep your finances in check. Look at it as a very important lesson learned. I've found that having financial goals is a critical part of holding onto a savings nest egg. Without goals you will look at a large savings balance as just a number that you'd like to be larger. With goals, that number is your future home, support for a future family, or anything.

Thank you for sharing your story.


Title: Re: My Story Past Gambling Addiction
Post by: Rawted on January 26, 2014, 06:02:05 AM
I see you mentioned me... and also paying me back - that would be real good.

I've been calling your house before but then I stopped as I thought about how it might turn it if your parents knew you were in such a bad place.

I am glad you have "found" yourself.

You still owe me 2BTC though - the USD equivalent is not important here. 2BTC is.


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Post by: chemdog on January 28, 2014, 12:29:23 AM
you have a story very similar to mine. I am too your age and have ruined my life with cryptocurrency online gambling. I am addicted to these stupid dice games. It has been 5 days since I lost control of myself and lost a shitload of money but I still feel suicidal at times, like right now. How do I get through this? I went to GA but it was little help. I have a good sponsor there though who I contact on the phone.

I still feel horrible.


why was your post deleted btw?


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Post by: Lucky Cris on January 28, 2014, 03:23:38 AM
you have a story very similar to mine. I am too your age and have ruined my life with cryptocurrency online gambling. I am addicted to these stupid dice games. It has been 5 days since I lost control of myself and lost a shitload of money but I still feel suicidal at times, like right now. How do I get through this? I went to GA but it was little help. I have a good sponsor there though who I contact on the phone.

I still feel horrible.


why was your post deleted btw?

You haven't ruined your life... Everyday is another opportunity to turn things around. I don't have a strong urge to gamble, nor do I think about it all the time. But if I did, I'd use a chant that helped me quit smoking (worst addiction to overcome ever IMO) - I used to repeat this to myself 'this craving will pass, cigarette or not.' I believed it, so it was true, and it helped me get through the really tough times of withdraw. Maybe you can find something similar.

Get through this day by day. Don't say you'll never do it again because you'll only set yourself up for failure if you do and continue to feel like you're feeling. Instead, set a goal and reward yourself when you meet it.

I can't relate to real gambling addiction (at least the outcomes of it), and I won't tell you all the things you already know. But what I will suggest is for you to find someone you can confide in. You'd be amazed of the relief.

Good luck


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Post by: alani123 on January 28, 2014, 03:41:24 AM
Why did this got erased?


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Post by: RGBKey on January 28, 2014, 05:06:14 AM
Why did this got erased?
Seriously, it was a good story and relevant


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Post by: alani123 on January 28, 2014, 09:41:23 AM
Why did this got erased?
Seriously, it was a good story and relevant

Indeed, I don't see any reason moderators would have to erase that. In fact I've neven seen a mod erasing a post. Maybe OP couldn't handle the attention?