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Title: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: thenoblebot on January 24, 2014, 11:51:21 AM
About satoshi's identity :

1) Did this site not keep logs of ips logged in from to trace/lead to(wards) satoshi ?

2) If so then suppose the govt sends a request for the ips of a particular member then will this site be obligated to give it ?

3) Also satoshi was subscribed to various crypto groups .. would none of them be keeping logs of any sort ? In fact he even sent emails to Adam Back, Hal Finney and others when the first version of bitcoin was released... not sure why no clue was found.

4) Of course there have been many attempts to find his identity but what is the dead end they have reached till they finally gave up ? I mean ip logs or isp level , etc.

PS: Pardon the questions if they are old and also of the usage of "he" cause "it" (lol) could be anything.


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: Benson Samuel on January 24, 2014, 12:00:08 PM
About satoshi's identity :

1) Did this site not keep logs of ips logged in from to trace/lead to(wards) satoshi ?

2) If so then suppose the govt sends a request for the ips of a particular member then will this site be obligated to give it ?

3) Also satoshi was subscribed to various crypto groups .. would none of them be keeping logs of any sort ? In fact he even sent emails to Adam Back, Hal Finney and others when the first version of bitcoin was released... not sure why no clue was found.

4) Of course there have been many attempts to find his identity but what is the dead end they have reached till they finally gave up ? I mean ip logs or isp level , etc.

PS: Pardon the questions if they are old and also of the usage of "he" cause "it" (lol) could be anything.

He used Tor :(


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: techguy on January 24, 2014, 12:02:43 PM
About satoshi's identity :

1) Did this site not keep logs of ips logged in from to trace/lead to(wards) satoshi ?

2) If so then suppose the govt sends a request for the ips of a particular member then will this site be obligated to give it ?

3) Also satoshi was subscribed to various crypto groups .. would none of them be keeping logs of any sort ? In fact he even sent emails to Adam Back, Hal Finney and others when the first version of bitcoin was released... not sure why no clue was found.

4) Of course there have been many attempts to find his identity but what is the dead end they have reached till they finally gave up ? I mean ip logs or isp level , etc.

PS: Pardon the questions if they are old and also of the usage of "he" cause "it" (lol) could be anything.

I don't think he has left any traces back. He must had used Tor / Anonymizer services to hide his identity.


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: thenoblebot on January 24, 2014, 12:05:15 PM
He used Tor :(

Dam ... hope it wasn't the US intelligence (or a part of the naval research wing more specifically) then .. anyways that's pure speculation.

What about IP logs ? Im sure the site keeps them .. but are they obligated to give it under government intervention ?

Also what about the mails to Adam and Hal .. any idea if they too were accessed through tor ?


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: techguy on January 24, 2014, 12:08:54 PM
Nice thread about - Who is Satoshi Nakamoto?  (Read 55776 times)  - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5951.0

If you are in search of him, may be you can Start from Benson's house ;)



Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: techguy on January 24, 2014, 12:11:37 PM
He used Tor :(

What about IP logs ? Im sure the site keeps them .. but are they obligated to give it under government intervention ?

If he had used the Tor / Anonoymizer IP services, how does IP logs matters ? It will point to some junk IP.


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: Amitabh S on January 24, 2014, 12:12:30 PM
I am assuming few people on the forums know his identity..  but they wont tell.


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: thenoblebot on January 24, 2014, 12:28:30 PM
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Nice thread about - Who is Satoshi Nakamoto?  (Read 55776 times)  - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5951.0

If you are in search of him, may be you can Start from Benson's house Wink

Lol I was thinking the same .. going to raid bensons house with ed guys to get to the "root of the problem". Lolll.

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If he had used the Tor / Anonoymizer IP services, how does IP logs matters ? It will point to some junk IP.

No actually that was just a general question about the site .. is it obligated to reveal ip logs under govt intervention/request ?

I agree im a dork but not soo much of a dork :P


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: thenoblebot on January 24, 2014, 12:33:32 PM
I am assuming few people on the forums know his identity..  but they wont tell.

I'm thinking the same but then the theory that goes against it is that sure many "intelligence agencies" would have tried to get to the root of it thinking its the "other intelligence agencies" working in this . And in that process, they would have tapped/bugged all the main devs of bitcoin for sure to find out. But so far nothing concrete has come out on that front.

I don't know maybe gavin, mike, maxwell know ... but then a proper "sweep" on these guys would/should have atleast revealed something .. unless unless its an intelligence agency who knew how to wipe their trails in the first place (obviously this operating under the assumption that some people know about his identity and are not revealing it.)

PS: I think I need to cut down on crappy spy movies lol


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: thenoblebot on January 24, 2014, 12:36:08 PM
You know one of these posts on the net also speculated that satoshi might be an AI .. that one surely gets me the most excited of all the theories regarding him ... skynet is coming  ;D


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: subvolatil on January 24, 2014, 04:10:59 PM


I think he is a person who is a genus, with an extensive knowledge in Cryptographic protocol implementation, a early cypherpunk list contrubutor. most probably a Teacher or did teach in his career. He must have had a background in social activism, a privacy advocate, and a person who have been oppressed by the  government and the large corporate entities.


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: globalgaurav on January 24, 2014, 05:19:07 PM


I think he is a person who is a genius, with an extensive knowledge in Cryptographic protocol implementation, a early cypherpunk list contrubutor ::). most probably a Teacher or did teach in his career :). He must have had a background in social activism, a privacy advocate, and a person who have been oppressed  >:( by the  government and the large corporate entities.


More power to open source, technology & people of the earth  :)


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: G K G on January 25, 2014, 02:45:58 AM
I am assuming few people on the forums know his identity..  but they wont tell.

I'm thinking the same but then the theory that goes against it is that sure many "intelligence agencies" would have tried to get to the root of it thinking its the "other intelligence agencies" working in this . And in that process, they would have tapped/bugged all the main devs of bitcoin for sure to find out. But so far nothing concrete has come out on that front.

I don't know maybe gavin, mike, maxwell know ... but then a proper "sweep" on these guys would/should have atleast revealed something .. unless unless its an intelligence agency who knew how to wipe their trails in the first place (obviously this operating under the assumption that some people know about his identity and are not revealing it.)

PS: I think I need to cut down on crappy spy movies lol

you are talking about the founder and senior devs of bitcoin. i think they are smart enough to wipe off any trails leading in or out, those they don"t want others to know

as far as the question if this is obliged to provide our information to govt- they are not. they can always say they don't keep any logs. and if they are obliged, then they 'll have to co-operate only to govt of the country where the site's server is present or the country in which the computer containing the logs is present.
there 'll be hell of a jurisdiction law issues  :P


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: Sportsclips on January 25, 2014, 02:49:27 AM
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I remain, and I will reveal myself in time.  The network has evolved, at a greater rate than is imaginable.  Please remember, the network is greater than the individual.
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Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: thenoblebot on January 25, 2014, 04:52:51 AM
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Satoshi Nakamoto

I remain, and I will reveal myself in time.  The network has evolved, at a greater rate than is imaginable.  Please remember, the network is greater than the individual.

When was this message dated ? You mean he claimed to return at a later date ? sounds very interesting


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: alani123 on January 25, 2014, 05:06:14 AM
Andreas M. Antonopoulos claims he was involved in cpyptocurrency development and research even before bitcoin existed. In his talks, he "warns" that he won't answer any questions about "Satoshi". Maybe, I say maybe He knows better.  ;)


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: Benson Samuel on January 25, 2014, 05:09:43 AM
I heard that he had a terminal illness before the launch and he died shortly after.

He was initially trying to get coins to pay Charon, but that changed when he found out that Bitcoin was not accepted there.


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: thenoblebot on January 25, 2014, 05:22:03 AM
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Andreas M. Antonopoulos claims he was involved in cpyptocurrency development and research even before bitcoin existed. In his talks, he "warns" that he won't answer any questions about "Satoshi". Maybe, I say maybe He knows better.  Wink

TBH I had to google the guy up ... was he one of the founders ? cause I cant seem to get much of the guy except for his media coverage .. and his git doesn't show much ... not sure if I am looking correctly  ???

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I heard that he had a terminal illness before the launch and he died shortly after.

He was initially trying to get coins to pay Charon, but that changed when he found out that Bitcoin was not accepted there.

Lollll Benson. That is a really funny one .. although I had to brush up on my greek mytho I must admit ... nice one bro  :D


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: Sportsclips on January 25, 2014, 05:57:47 PM
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Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: alani123 on January 25, 2014, 11:07:58 PM
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Andreas M. Antonopoulos claims he was involved in cpyptocurrency development and research even before bitcoin existed. In his talks, he "warns" that he won't answer any questions about "Satoshi". Maybe, I say maybe He knows better.  Wink

TBH I had to google the guy up ... was he one of the founders ? cause I cant seem to get much of the guy except for his media coverage .. and his git doesn't show much ... not sure if I am looking correctly  ???



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP9-lAYngi4

In the start of his video, you can hear him talk a little about him self and hear him say "I was involved into cryptocurrencies since late 80's"  The rest of the video is interesting as well but that's mostly the thing I was talking about.


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: subvolatil on January 26, 2014, 03:42:05 AM
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Andreas M. Antonopoulos claims he was involved in cpyptocurrency development and research even before bitcoin existed. In his talks, he "warns" that he won't answer any questions about "Satoshi". Maybe, I say maybe He knows better.  Wink

TBH I had to google the guy up ... was he one of the founders ? cause I cant seem to get much of the guy except for his media coverage .. and his git doesn't show much ... not sure if I am looking correctly  ???



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP9-lAYngi4

In the start of his video, you can hear him talk a little about him self and hear him say "I was involved into cryptocurrencies since late 80's"  The rest of the video is interesting as well but that's mostly the thing I was talking about.

He was reffering to a few attempts during the late 80's and 90s when the cypherpunk movement was gaining traction. Alot of people in the movement were trying to solve how a cryptographically implemented decentralized banking system could be created.


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: alani123 on January 26, 2014, 03:48:59 AM
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He was reffering to a few attempts during the late 80's and 90s when the cypherpunk movement was gaining traction. Alot of people in the movement were trying to solve how a cryptographically implemented decentralized banking system could be created.

I wasn't even old enough at the time but I guess none of those attepts succedes it's porpuse. Bitcoin was the first cryptographic currency and wasn't even built in existing protocols. That's intresing though, I had no idea.


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: esillwe on January 28, 2014, 12:45:08 AM
no one knoe shatashi


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: G K G on January 28, 2014, 12:48:43 AM
no one knoe shatashi

I know satoshi, he is my neighbor with a bald head  :P


Title: Re: A few questions about Satoshi and this site ?
Post by: thenoblebot on January 28, 2014, 09:55:03 AM
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He was reffering to a few attempts during the late 80's and 90s when the cypherpunk movement was gaining traction. Alot of people in the movement were trying to solve how a cryptographically implemented decentralized banking system could be created.

I wasn't even old enough at the time but I guess none of those attepts succedes it's porpuse. Bitcoin was the first cryptographic currency and wasn't even built in existing protocols. That's intresing though, I had no idea.

Nice .. you seem like youve been in crypto field since quite long subvolatil.