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There have been rumors for some time that large institutional investors and asset managers want to get into crypto. Efforts by Goldman Sachs, Rothschild and others seem to confirm that. But really, there has not been any effect yet. When do you think the big money will come from institutions in the crypto market?

Long-term legal status is one of the most important incentives for investment. These rumors are used by big whales to create a kind of recovery in price thus selling at a high price.
Also, the evolution of technologies such as Lightning Network will make Bitcoin more suitable for many transactions "big money will come from institutions."

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Overall price stability with positive growth far better than large fluctuations does not last for long periods

Institutional money is already in, somewhat. It comes in through proxy businesses that aren't subject to strict regulations. It might not even be 1% of the total capital they are ready to dump into crypto, but it is at least a start.

Important for people to understand is that institutions are pretty late with entering this market, so the capital that they already have in here is enough to keep the price relatively 'low' through manipulation, all to grant themselves a better entry point in case they are allowed to pull out their big guns. I am sure that it will happen this year. Coinbase is actively conversing with regulators to get things done.

Institutions will not pay top dollar prices, they know what they do to make people pay top dollar prices, and they eventually will. :)

I don't think we can have much of institutional or corporate investment in cryptocurrencies if there is no regulation in place. Regulations will build trust because scam is on the high side and no way to hold people accountable for wrongdoings.

Yeah i agree with you, regulations will build trust and people will figure out the right way to avoid the scam.

they are already but there're still some available tacky issues about legalization for these. But I hope they will get through soon.

Big money is flowing in but because of too many altcoins and ICOs we might not feel this impact yet until coins with no use and no value are pulled out from the market to feel the effect.

And as far as I know we need more institutional investors to pump in new money and not whats happening of the same old money circulating around us.

Institutional money is already in the game, the current marketcap is around 300 billion dollars, it's a lot of money, and it's not just enthusiasts who are in this game ... But the marketcap is still going to increase a lot over the years, it has potential to about 5 trillion dollars in 2-3 years.

Whale trader or even a group of whale trader able to affect bitcoin value globally.
As you guys know that bitcoin value depend on supply and demand so it's quite easy enough to affect them.

Of course it's need process and time to see the movement happen !

The inflow of institutional money isn't going to happen in an instant- its a constant process. Big money doesn't just jump into a space but instead has a calculated method. It will be drip fed into the markets in my opinion.

its not the institutional money that is significant its the trust that, is

if institutions will issue their own currencies, like for example ITER which i think will be very successful, entire society will change, people wont think in us dollar anymore but in "coin of style"

for example bitcoin wont have a "us dollar" valuation from gambling banksters anymore then bitcoin will get a very bad time, latest at that point of time, if not then even sooner.

perhaps at the end of this year will be in big money that will invest in crypto. everyone has talked about this rumor every time.

Maybe "crypto" market will die before institutional investors will be able to get in, because the market is full of useless ICO tokens and altcoins with unrealistic hype and no working product. This creates a high chance of massive crash when most of the investors will realize that this is going nowhere. SO instead it might be better to ask when will institutional money get into Bitcoin. To answer that, it might be already slowly happenning, but the big wave can be expected after altcoin bubble bursting, since there's still a lot of people doubting Bitcoin, but after it will survive the crypto extinction, people will judge it by its technology and will realize that it is actually working and useful.

It is not really 300 billion actually. There are studies that only 1/5 or 1/6 of the total market cap is real invested money. For example, there are around 17 million Bitcoins, but at least 2-3 millions are considered as lost. That means that 22,5 billion USD (3 mln coins x 7500) exist but nobody is invested in. That is only for Bitcoin and holds for many other cryptos, too.

Well, we don't really know how much activity they are pointing towards BTC now. It's quite possible that they're already contributing a lot. Just because they say they want to get into it doesn't mean that they necessarily want to buy and hold. For all we know they've been trading with the intention to push the price down. Really we don't know either way, but I wouldn't be too surprised to learn that.

actually the intelligent institutions are bitcoin hostile,

they have actually created the bitcoin futures to fight bitcoin, not to support it.

if you are a bitcoin fan, then count institutions out from supporting you there is a systematic reason (https://www.cryptoproductivity.com/single-post/2018/05/30/Mark-Our-Words-On-next-food-price-crisis-the-empty-proof-of-woork-cryptos-like-bitcoin-litecoin-etc-will-be-the-welcome-scapegoat-everybody-is-looking-for-and-everybody-will-use-out-of-opportunistic-reasons) how bitcoin will be opposed by those.

It's slowly flowing in. Remember that BTC isn't a company that can pay for advertising, go to a meeting, explain its future plans. It relies on people understanding it and finding it to be worth their time and money. That's why we had a very slow growth in the beginning and much faster once people started telling friends and family about it. There's still a lot of people in the world who don't even know if its existence.
Institutional money is the next step after private investors, but are we already past the time of private investments? I think not.

We will never know the money from the big institution will start to enter the crypto market because the anonymity imposed in cryptocurrency can not make us trace who goes into the crypto market at any given time. We just wait, hopefully, the rumors will occur in the future by seeing the effect in the movement of the price of crypto forward.

Following bitcoin futures, exchange-based crypto-ETFs will begin to appear on the market. The American financial regulator now asks complex questions to the organizers of crypto funds to be convinced of the seriousness of their intentions and the possibilities to ensure the safety of assets before ETF will offer investors.
And although today's capitalization kriptovalyut already surpassed many of the most daring forecasts, it is far from the maximum. Digital currencies are just beginning their journey, and institutional investors will be an excellent catalyst for growth.

For all we know, institutional investors and deep pockets are already meddling with bitcoin after the first ATH. Methinks that they might be the main reason why we managed to cross the then psychological barrier of $10k which, to many is quite impossible to cross, let alone achieve. Also, it would be quite unusual for big money to ignore a booming and ripe-for-the-picking investment which is bitcoin. They might be around every now and then, especially when they hype the hell out of the coin and have already had a good position in the market, only to leave once they dumped everything into the hopefuls' sorry faces.

Confirmed institutional money in hedge funds are hedge funds and venture capital investors but really large institutional money (like for instance a pension fund) probably won't move into crypto market until it is fully regulated in my opinion.

To answer that, it might be already slowly happenning, but the big wave can be expected after altcoin bubble bursting, since there's still a lot of people doubting Bitcoin

I do not think we can have much institutional investment in cryptocurrency unless we have rules that are relevant to all. it takes a rule that gets them to really believe that this will all be safe.

Here I agree with the chief investment director of the crypto-currency hedge fund BlockTower Capital, Ari Paul (Ari Paul), recently described global institutional investments as an inevitable result of the development of the crypto-currency market.

If we get to the point where big institutional money can flow freely in and out of Bitcoin via safe and regulated channels that is pretty much the final frontier in terms of potential growth. That's where the big capital shift could happen.

No one has the knowledge when this will happen. But whenever it happens, the market will be flooded with new money making new millionaires.

maybe soon but they are smart investors they will not be rash they monitor market movements and price stability anyway nobody wants a loss, and it takes some time somehow but for sure if the market conditions quickly improved it is not impossible that the situation will be quickly realized , of course

There have been rumors for a long time that the top investors of the institute and asset managers want it to enter a crypt. The efforts of Goldman Sachs, Rothschi rising and more are rather to confirm them. But it really does not work anymore. When you think the big money is coming from the crypto market institutions. Well, that's what we'll focus if we really reach all the big money in a crypto market institution.

All things are possible but in those instances we can not be sure if this is going to be a good transfer. Bitcoin has a physical appearance that has other advantages such as nothing to pay, simple, etc. But then I guess that it is centralized. It will not be the safety of everyone because the person has an error committed improperly. so we'll also have lots of legal problems. So my opinion it's not a good idea to put bitcoin in a real shape or physical form. We accept what bitcoin is in the future.

The main question is, Do we really want these Sharks in our markets? They will come with their bags filled with fiat and destroy the markets. Our Bitcoin whales and long-term hodlers will start selling their coins and these speculators will ruin the experiment, because they will come in and manipulate the price to maximize their profits.

We have seen what happened with Bitcoin Futures and they are not even buying and selling bitcoins directly.  ::) I am happy to wait for natural growth and adoption and not giving any of my coins to these Sharks.  >:(

I don't think that it's a rumour because we have seen the actual involvement of the big whales and institutional investors in the last quarter of the last year and it might be the trial for them to see how things work in crypto. I am expecting the involvement of the institutional investors in the second half of this year but I am sure, the market will respond in a mature sense even after the decision of the whales to enter or exit from the market.

No for me its not adviceable right now but when it come there will be many millionaires out there.

SO may be better to ask when money will get into Bitcoin. Yes, we do not really know how many activities they are aiming at BTC right now. Just because they say they want to get into it does not mean they necessarily want to buy and hold. Actually we do not know either way, but I would not be too surprised to know that. The fact is that smart organizations have bitcoin hostility, if you are a bitcoin fan, then count the organizations from support you have a systematic reason how bitcoin will be opposed by people.