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Title: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: Maltroxic on May 29, 2018, 08:52:18 AM
Welcome to www.btcraffle.io (http://www.btcraffle.io) a new PvP style of gambling. This raffle is a fast 10-30 seconds and allows for a single winner each round. The odds of winning are dependant on how many tickets you buy, you have the ability to buy tickets as the time is ticking for a last-second victory. Each bit equals 1 raffle ticket, the odds fluctuate with how many tickets are in the pot.


You are not playing against the house but against other players. 2 Players are required to play. We look forward to seeing you around and hope you enjoy your stay.

Some of our features include:
♠ PvP Gaming
♠ Hot Wallet for quick withdrawals and deposits
♠ 10-30 Second Raffles
♠ Live Stats
♠ Secure Offline Cold Wallet
♠ Live Chat - Give Aways - Events
♠ Active Support
♠ Faucet - Play for Free!

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Before, each game a serverseed is generated. This seed is then hashed using sha256 encryption. This hashed serverseed is sent to you (the client) before the game starts.
When the game ends, the game will generate a string using serverseed (unhashed) + the number of tickets (clientseed) sold:
endgame_string = 'c0c973b2198f3315ac0e' . '1200'
This string is then used as a seed using David Bau's seedrandom module. This module makes sure that given a seed the outcome of a Math.random() is always the same for THAT seed. See github.com/davidbau/seedrandom for more information. Using this method, we draw a winning raffle ticket that is provably fair.


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: cir0 on May 29, 2018, 09:24:26 AM
Reserved for future announcements and events


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: BestMarketing on May 29, 2018, 09:47:59 AM
Would you be interested in a marketing manager ?
I've got 8 years experience in the gambling scene on multiple gambling websites.

Just send me a PM if so .
Support / Quality Manager aswell .


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: cir0 on May 29, 2018, 10:54:18 AM
Not for now, but we will keep you in touch ;)


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: panjul07 on May 29, 2018, 04:09:16 PM
The UI interface looks quite similar with bustabit, but the game is exactly different. I wonder about the house edge, is there a house edge in this game? Just checked some few bets there but seems that the winner get all the pot without any fees. If there is no house edge, so how would you make profit from the game?


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: Rinsend on May 29, 2018, 06:13:56 PM
The UI interface looks quite similar with bustabit, but the game is exactly different. I wonder about the house edge, is there a house edge in this game? Just checked some few bets there but seems that the winner get all the pot without any fees. If there is no house edge, so how would you make profit from the game?
it is not possible if the site does not have an edge house, maybe the owner is skipping to include it, because it is commonplace on the gambling site, without the edge house, the gambling site will go bankrupt in a short period of time


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: Maltroxic on May 29, 2018, 06:49:54 PM
House edge is 4% and only applies to larger games, small games the house does not take a cut. Since it is only players betting vs players we can be bankroll less. We just have to cover for server costs, advertisement, etc..


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on May 29, 2018, 07:15:16 PM
House edge is 4% and only applies to larger games, small games the house does not take a cut. Since it is only players betting vs players we can be bankroll less. We just have to cover for server costs, advertisement, etc..
To keep site up and running along with proper development operations , you definitely need some sort of income.Have you defined the limits for the house-edge yet ? The 4% will be applied only if the total amount passes the threshold of x value. That X needs to be defined.Better yet, you can have different X values according to the total pool.This will ensure you will get something from every game.


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: Hamphser on May 29, 2018, 08:56:17 PM
The UI interface looks quite similar with bustabit, but the game is exactly different. I wonder about the house edge, is there a house edge in this game? Just checked some few bets there but seems that the winner get all the pot without any fees. If there is no house edge, so how would you make profit from the game?
Based on my experience into those sites who dont have house edge they do mostly get a percentage when they do already make a withdrawal or some do directly get percentage after a winning.When i surfed into the site it do give me the impressions of bustadice which is really entirely similar but the game is different.

I had test it out to access on Internet explorer but it failed to load and stucked but this one works in chrome.


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: cir0 on May 29, 2018, 09:04:25 PM
House edge is 4% and only applies to larger games, small games the house does not take a cut. Since it is only players betting vs players we can be bankroll less. We just have to cover for server costs, advertisement, etc..
To keep site up and running along with proper development operations , you definitely need some sort of income.Have you defined the limits for the house-edge yet ? The 4% will be applied only if the total amount passes the threshold of x value. That X needs to be defined.Better yet, you can have different X values according to the total pool.This will ensure you will get something from every game.

We are working on a dynamic house edge, but for now it's 4% for all the rounds :
We just want to be sure that the jackpot will be ALWAYS at least as big as the biggest bet.

We will keep you informed if there is any change


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: JL421 on May 29, 2018, 09:27:10 PM
House edge is 4% and only applies to larger games, small games the house does not take a cut. Since it is only players betting vs players we can be bankroll less. We just have to cover for server costs, advertisement, etc..
To keep site up and running along with proper development operations , you definitely need some sort of income.Have you defined the limits for the house-edge yet ? The 4% will be applied only if the total amount passes the threshold of x value. That X needs to be defined.Better yet, you can have different X values according to the total pool.This will ensure you will get something from every game.

We are working on a dynamic house edge, but for now it's 4% for all the rounds :
We just want to be sure that the jackpot will be ALWAYS at least as big as the biggest bet.

We will keep you informed if there is any change
4% is a decent house edge but when i tried to use from my mobile everything felt scattered , you should surely consider to have a mobile supported site in the future


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: cir0 on May 29, 2018, 09:29:09 PM
House edge is 4% and only applies to larger games, small games the house does not take a cut. Since it is only players betting vs players we can be bankroll less. We just have to cover for server costs, advertisement, etc..
To keep site up and running along with proper development operations , you definitely need some sort of income.Have you defined the limits for the house-edge yet ? The 4% will be applied only if the total amount passes the threshold of x value. That X needs to be defined.Better yet, you can have different X values according to the total pool.This will ensure you will get something from every game.

We are working on a dynamic house edge, but for now it's 4% for all the rounds :
We just want to be sure that the jackpot will be ALWAYS at least as big as the biggest bet.

We will keep you informed if there is any change
4% is a decent house edge but when i tried to use from my mobile everything felt scattered , you should surely consider to have a mobile supported site in the future

Thanks for your suggestion.
Everything is fine on mobile, at least the few ones that i tried, can you send me a Screenshot in pm ? I will try to solve this.


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: leowonderful on May 29, 2018, 10:18:24 PM
The site is just fine looking at it from my mobile phone, performs just as well and looks similar to the old Bustabit crash gambling site (as it's a pretty popular site script, I have no problems with it, another example is CSGOcrash.com), except for a cut off bar and minimal text cutoff on the 'Login to Play or register' bar. It might just be your device that's causing any issues, works just fine like OP said.


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: JL421 on May 30, 2018, 12:41:05 AM
House edge is 4% and only applies to larger games, small games the house does not take a cut. Since it is only players betting vs players we can be bankroll less. We just have to cover for server costs, advertisement, etc..
To keep site up and running along with proper development operations , you definitely need some sort of income.Have you defined the limits for the house-edge yet ? The 4% will be applied only if the total amount passes the threshold of x value. That X needs to be defined.Better yet, you can have different X values according to the total pool.This will ensure you will get something from every game.

We are working on a dynamic house edge, but for now it's 4% for all the rounds :
We just want to be sure that the jackpot will be ALWAYS at least as big as the biggest bet.

We will keep you informed if there is any change
4% is a decent house edge but when i tried to use from my mobile everything felt scattered , you should surely consider to have a mobile supported site in the future

Thanks for your suggestion.
Everything is fine on mobile, at least the few ones that i tried, can you send me a Screenshot in pm ? I will try to solve this.
Everything is fine but as i said you need to make a lot of changes in the site as a long term plan , the problem was at the buy tickets place it showed registered and login in while i was already logged in to my account and also the words are collapsing on top of each


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: Maltroxic on May 30, 2018, 12:52:53 AM
Thanks JL! We will work on getting mobile support as time allows!


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: cir0 on May 30, 2018, 04:27:30 PM
The unique way of gambling...
I love the idea and admin also a good person
Events and giveaway..  For new players..
Recommend to join
Btcraffle.io


Thanks for your review ! We are going to organise an event soon.
Make sure to follow us on Twitter if you want to be updated : https://twitter.com/btcraffle_io


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: BTCevo on June 02, 2018, 06:57:56 AM
You said about the hot wallet which is it will be automatically been processed if anyone make a withdrawal. Is there any limit on max withdrawal? Or may be your bankroll to make sure people do not place more than what you guys set. And about pvp raffles, it is something unique of course but the problem is the player, if there is no one around we can't play although if we want to. You should make a bot to let us play with it so whenever there is a player then they can play directly, do not need to wait for others to come


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: cir0 on June 02, 2018, 08:02:20 AM
You said about the hot wallet which is it will be automatically been processed if anyone make a withdrawal. Is there any limit on max withdrawal? Or may be your bankroll to make sure people do not place more than what you guys set. And about pvp raffles, it is something unique of course but the problem is the player, if there is no one around we can't play although if we want to. You should make a bot to let us play with it so whenever there is a player then they can play directly, do not need to wait for others to come

We will keep a significant amount in the bankroll to be able to handle "classic" withdrawal. When the hot wallet is empty, we receive an email and will refill the hot wallet. (we have a few people in our team able to access the wallets in different timezones)

Having a bot may be a good idea but it will change the game mechanics, we are working to implement other games and organize events to make the site more enjoyable and attract more users.


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: YOLO_LIFE on June 02, 2018, 08:57:15 AM
Just now registered and Played. Deposits are very smooth and I really like the lottery game very responsive especially that last 30 seconds before getting the result(adrenaline rush). very nice chatbox to hang on. it would be nice if there is an option to cancel the tickets. umm, typing password for every tip it's something long process(maybe you guys had some valid reason for it). over-all very cool site to play.


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: cir0 on June 02, 2018, 09:53:28 AM
Just now registered and Played. Deposits are very smooth and I really like the lottery game very responsive especially that last 30 seconds before getting the result(adrenaline rush). very nice chatbox to hang on. it would be nice if there is an option to cancel the tickets. umm, typing password for every tip it's something long process(maybe you guys had some valid reason for it). over-all very cool site to play.

Thanks for your nice review ;)

A lot of new features will be implemented real soon (today or tomorrow) !


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: Maltroxic on June 03, 2018, 06:06:16 PM
Our #1 Priority is gaining more players. A possible referral system may be put in, however, we want to keep it simple and to the point. If anyone has any strong suggestions for places to advertise we would love to hear any suggestions! We are working on putting together events for the very near future and even hosting a live twitch battle in the very near future!


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: JL421 on June 03, 2018, 06:53:43 PM
Our #1 Priority is gaining more players. A possible referral system may be put in, however, we want to keep it simple and to the point. If anyone has any strong suggestions for places to advertise we would love to hear any suggestions! We are working on putting together events for the very near future and even hosting a live twitch battle in the very near future!
Why don't you advertise on this forum itself , i get it you are newer company but you can buy the forum ads in starting and as you progress you can start a signature campaign as well. I actually loved the idea of your site and see lot of growth potential


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: milewilda on June 03, 2018, 06:59:25 PM
You said about the hot wallet which is it will be automatically been processed if anyone make a withdrawal. Is there any limit on max withdrawal? Or may be your bankroll to make sure people do not place more than what you guys set. And about pvp raffles, it is something unique of course but the problem is the player, if there is no one around we can't play although if we want to. You should make a bot to let us play with it so whenever there is a player then they can play directly, do not need to wait for others to come
I dont think it would be appealing if they would create a bot for the benefit of not having a delay on waiting for a player because it wont be called anymore to be a pvp gambling game yet you are already betting against with the house and also we have the thing on mind if we are against on a bot we cant still be sure if those are provably fair.I would willing to wait rather than on having a bot in the site.


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: Maltroxic on June 03, 2018, 07:32:47 PM
You said about the hot wallet which is it will be automatically been processed if anyone make a withdrawal. Is there any limit on max withdrawal? Or may be your bankroll to make sure people do not place more than what you guys set. And about pvp raffles, it is something unique of course but the problem is the player, if there is no one around we can't play although if we want to. You should make a bot to let us play with it so whenever there is a player then they can play directly, do not need to wait for others to come
I dont think it would be appealing if they would create a bot for the benefit of not having a delay on waiting for a player because it wont be called anymore to be a pvp gambling game yet you are already betting against with the house and also we have the thing on mind if we are against on a bot we cant still be sure if those are provably fair.I would willing to wait rather than on having a bot in the site.

That is a very good point, we are working on some incentive programs at the moment and will update when it is finalized. Maybe not a bot, but we are looking into auto betting for players. It would be very tricky to balance a bot for this game, as the computer will always be faster than the player.


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: milewilda on June 03, 2018, 09:53:30 PM
You said about the hot wallet which is it will be automatically been processed if anyone make a withdrawal. Is there any limit on max withdrawal? Or may be your bankroll to make sure people do not place more than what you guys set. And about pvp raffles, it is something unique of course but the problem is the player, if there is no one around we can't play although if we want to. You should make a bot to let us play with it so whenever there is a player then they can play directly, do not need to wait for others to come
I dont think it would be appealing if they would create a bot for the benefit of not having a delay on waiting for a player because it wont be called anymore to be a pvp gambling game yet you are already betting against with the house and also we have the thing on mind if we are against on a bot we cant still be sure if those are provably fair.I would willing to wait rather than on having a bot in the site.

That is a very good point, we are working on some incentive programs at the moment and will update when it is finalized. Maybe not a bot, but we are looking into auto betting for players. It would be very tricky to balance a bot for this game, as the computer will always be faster than the player.
Adding up a auto betting feature would be more sensible rather than on just adding up a auto betting bot on the site and i do agree that it would really be tricky to add up a bot for this game and also i would not really prefer on playing it also if incase there would be that kind of feature.If it do means PVP then it should be PVP no bots allowed.  8)


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: devans on June 05, 2018, 12:29:40 PM
Congraluations on your launch!

It looks like you have incorporated at least some parts of bustabit's source code under its open source license. Please don't forget to make your own source code available in order to comply with the AGPLv3 (https://choosealicense.com/licenses/agpl-3.0/).


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: BTCevo on June 05, 2018, 01:23:39 PM
You said about the hot wallet which is it will be automatically been processed if anyone make a withdrawal. Is there any limit on max withdrawal? Or may be your bankroll to make sure people do not place more than what you guys set. And about pvp raffles, it is something unique of course but the problem is the player, if there is no one around we can't play although if we want to. You should make a bot to let us play with it so whenever there is a player then they can play directly, do not need to wait for others to come

We will keep a significant amount in the bankroll to be able to handle "classic" withdrawal. When the hot wallet is empty, we receive an email and will refill the hot wallet. (we have a few people in our team able to access the wallets in different timezones)

Having a bot may be a good idea but it will change the game mechanics, we are working to implement other games and organize events to make the site more enjoyable and attract more users.

Its a great thing to have your bankroll is update but the point how much are you going to put it on your hot wallet because if there is many people ask for withdrawals, it will always notify your emails which is will your hand full of this thing

Btw you are not going to add your bot? So what I assume here if there is no bot that means our money will stuck there until there is a new players right?


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: Ranly123 on June 05, 2018, 01:30:29 PM
Just now registered and Played. Deposits are very smooth and I really like the lottery game very responsive especially that last 30 seconds before getting the result(adrenaline rush). very nice chatbox to hang on. it would be nice if there is an option to cancel the tickets. umm, typing password for every tip it's something long process(maybe you guys had some valid reason for it). over-all very cool site to play.

That would be exciting playing the 30 second lottery. But if you are in a rush there is a tendency that you would pick the wrong choice and does not have a cancel option which will make you regret the bet you place.


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: cir0 on June 05, 2018, 01:47:51 PM
You said about the hot wallet which is it will be automatically been processed if anyone make a withdrawal. Is there any limit on max withdrawal? Or may be your bankroll to make sure people do not place more than what you guys set. And about pvp raffles, it is something unique of course but the problem is the player, if there is no one around we can't play although if we want to. You should make a bot to let us play with it so whenever there is a player then they can play directly, do not need to wait for others to come

We will keep a significant amount in the bankroll to be able to handle "classic" withdrawal. When the hot wallet is empty, we receive an email and will refill the hot wallet. (we have a few people in our team able to access the wallets in different timezones)

Having a bot may be a good idea but it will change the game mechanics, we are working to implement other games and organize events to make the site more enjoyable and attract more users.

Its a great thing to have your bankroll is update but the point how much are you going to put it on your hot wallet because if there is many people ask for withdrawals, it will always notify your emails which is will your hand full of this thing

Btw you are not going to add your bot? So what I assume here if there is no bot that means our money will stuck there until there is a new players right?

1 - We don't want to disclose the amount in the hot wallet for now, but we are at least 2 connected 24hrs/24 on the website to deal with potential withdraw issues. I'm working on a system to refill the hot wallet automatically when it's empty.

Example : if you register now and make a deposit of 1 BTC, play a few rounds, you will always be able to withdraw your BTC + the gains from other players.

2 - Yes, your bet will be stucked, we can manually cancel it when someones ask for it in the general chat. I'm creating a new button to cancel the bet to avoid this situation.

We will have a lot of updates and new features this week, and we will keep you informed about them.


Title: Re: | PVP Gambling | ★★ btcraffle.io ★★ | Provably Fair |
Post by: Maltroxic on June 08, 2018, 02:30:58 AM
btcraffle.io version 2 is estimated to be completed by the end of the week. We have some really fantastic changes coming and hope that everyone will like what they see.