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Title: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: guugll on January 30, 2014, 11:28:39 AM
Hi, hope this is the right place to write to.
i am waiting for my mtgox account to be approved so i check everyday if i can finnally transfer first $ to my account.
Today i see i finnally can transfer my... wait... no money...?
So i check the history and what i see:

2014/01/30 01:51:58   Fee      0.00100000 BTC   0.00078942 BTC
Fees for Bitcoin withdraw to 1Q1Wo95FcXvrhDB5ieDMk52qDs2yNfpySN
2014/01/30 01:51:58   Withdraw      0.00800000 BTC   0.00178942 BTC
Bitcoin withdraw to 1Q1Wo95FcXvrhDB5ieDMk52qDs2yNfpySN
2014/01/30 01:46:33   Fee      0.00100000 BTC   0.00978942 BTC
Fees for Bitcoin withdraw to 1Q1Wo95FcXvrhDB5ieDMk52qDs2yNfpySN
2014/01/30 01:46:33   Withdraw      2.46000000 BTC   0.01078942 BTC
Bitcoin withdraw to 1Q1Wo95FcXvrhDB5ieDMk52qDs2yNfpySN
2014/01/30 01:45:14   Fee      0.00891422 BTC   2.47078942 BTC
BTC bought: [tid:1391042714891320] 1.48570364 BTC at $933.49998 (0.6% fee)
2014/01/30 01:45:14   In      1.48570364 BTC   2.47970364 BTC
BTC bought: [tid:1391042714891320] 1.48570364 BTC at $933.49998
2014/01/30 01:45:14   Fee      0.00600000 BTC   0.99400000 BTC
BTC bought: [tid:1391042714725595] 1.00000000 BTC at $933.49997 (0.6% fee)
2014/01/30 01:45:14   In      1.00000000 BTC   1.00000000 BTC
BTC bought: [tid:1391042714725595] 1.00000000 BTC at $933.49997


right after i went to sleep somebody started to use my $ and bought BTC in a 2 rows and then made a transfer to his BTC address.

Please can anybody help to find this guy? 1Q1Wo95FcXvrhDB5ieDMk52qDs2yNfpySN

i contacted mtgox in order to receive the logs and maybe some IP of the attacker.

Did anybody experienced simmilar issue? Any hint except changing all password and went paranoid?

it is strange that exact at the point when i can start transfering $ to my account somebody stole it and change it back to BTC so he can rob me.


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: guugll on January 30, 2014, 12:04:53 PM
ok so this BTC is probably gone - no authorities to stop transaction.

its funny - i got one month mtgox account approval.
then i got another month for bank account approval.
then i got robbed but i sould make stronger security - this would probably take another month.
then i can (if not robbed) start transfering $ but that takes also some time...

this process from BTC 2 $ is very strange at least at mtgox.

will try the stronger security and see if i gen my $ at some time...


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: richardweiming on January 30, 2014, 01:46:05 PM
It is even more funny that your stolen payment went through.
Do you know how many of us stuck bitcoin withdraw in GOX at current time?


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: guugll on January 30, 2014, 03:52:15 PM
well that is confusing.

i have been robbed the exact first day i could withdraw but the robbery went before my day started.
it looks more like somebody inside mtgox is stealing this because even i did not know that i can withdraw before i logged in. and it was all gone before my login.

now people experiencing delays in withdraw but this attacker not.

mtgox could force people without additional security to get some and thus again delay withdrawals.
i was waiting for this day 2 months and insted of my money i got nothink.

this really sux guys.

how can i find the transaction? i am not sure if i see it in block chain...
any hints?


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: guugll on January 30, 2014, 03:56:39 PM
can you help me to find this:

Fees for Bitcoin withdraw to 1Q1Wo95FcXvrhDB5ieDMk52qDs2yNfpySN
2014/01/30 01:51:58   Withdraw      0.00800000 BTC   0.00178942 BTC
Bitcoin withdraw to 1Q1Wo95FcXvrhDB5ieDMk52qDs2yNfpySN

2014/01/30 01:46:33   Fee      0.00100000 BTC   0.00978942 BTC
Fees for Bitcoin withdraw to 1Q1Wo95FcXvrhDB5ieDMk52qDs2yNfpySN

2014/01/30 01:46:33   Withdraw      2.46000000 BTC   0.01078942 BTC
Bitcoin withdraw to 1Q1Wo95FcXvrhDB5ieDMk52qDs2yNfpySN

th owner of this address 1Q1Wo95FcXvrhDB5ieDMk52qDs2yNfpySN is probably just stealing from others.

is there any authority to contact in order to find this SCUMBAG... od IP of the bastard, i would like to have a word with that guy. really.


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: guugll on January 30, 2014, 08:43:46 PM
found out the way i got robbed: thru gmail account
do not know how they got my pass yet.

11:58 AM   Signed in from Chrome (Windows)   Prague, Czech Republic
11:58 AM   Changed password   Prague, Czech Republic
2:12 AM   Changed password   Lubbock, TX, USA
2:12 AM   Removed recovery email: king2@email.cz   Lubbock, TX, USA
2:11 AM   Signed in from Firefox (Windows)   Lubbock, TX, USA
1:36 AM   Passed a sign-in challenge   Lubbock, TX, USA
Jan 27   Signed in from Chrome (Windows)



Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: guugll on January 30, 2014, 08:51:18 PM
the IP of the bastard from Lubbock, TX, USA is 67.221.255.66 at least that states in my gmail account


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: Tomatocage on January 30, 2014, 08:55:05 PM
the IP of the bastard from Lubbock, TX, USA is 67.221.255.66 at least that states in my gmail account
GMail doesn't reveal IP, unless he used a 3rd party mail client like Thunderbird or Eudora or some shit.


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: guugll on January 31, 2014, 10:59:32 AM
the IP of the bastard from Lubbock, TX, USA is 67.221.255.66 at least that states in my gmail account
GMail doesn't reveal IP, unless he used a 3rd party mail client like Thunderbird or Eudora or some shit.


Sign in to your account at accounts.google.com.
At the top, click Security.
then Recent activity and there click View all events
then you can see something like this:

Jan 30   Signed in from Chrome (Windows)   Prague, Czech Republic
Jan 30   Changed password   Prague, Czech Republic
Jan 30   Changed password   Lubbock, TX, USA
Jan 30   Removed recovery email: king2@email.cz   Lubbock, TX, USA
Jan 30   Signed in from Firefox (Windows)   Lubbock, TX, USA
Jan 30   Passed a sign-in challenge   Lubbock, TX, USA
Jan 27   Signed in from Chrome (Windows)

then you select the line you wanna see details - for example first line where the attacker logged in
and on right side you will see some details like: Approximate location based on IP (known to gmail - it could be proxy maybe)

the details at right side look like this:

IP Address
67.221.255.66
Browser
Firefox 26.0
Platform
Windows

i searched for the IP and i got 3 different possible locations - google say one and a few whois services show another two.
i contacted mtgox, will contact gmail and based on logs i get i will probably continue to local authorities in order to claim this issue in correct way.

BTC get stolen like Gold in past so it is basically my fault that i trusted mtgox&gmail

i hope i will get more details on the connection and maybe some real location, then hopefully the local authorities - if i claim everythink right - could help





Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: Crystallas on February 09, 2014, 02:37:05 AM
Same person hit my BTC-e Account.

1Q1Wo95FcXvrhDB5ieDMk52qDs2yNfpySN

From this burner wallet.

https://blockchain.info/address/1GwuJuR4u2pCmtF4xc7DK8JJMR5uicM3sU


1.22BTC gone.


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: Crystallas on February 09, 2014, 03:17:31 AM
You listed 67.221.255.66

BTC-e Gave me these IP addresses: 67.221.255.73  as the one that made the withdrawal.

And the IP address from 95.141.28.124 is the address that hacked my account.



Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: Crystallas on February 09, 2014, 09:32:43 AM
16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt
https://blockchain.info/address/16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt


Keep following the money.  This isn't a small scammer. 36398 Bitcoins






Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: yannis7777 on February 09, 2014, 09:45:18 AM
How can we be protected by such scumbags and how do they get access to accounts guys?


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: ncs0ne on February 09, 2014, 10:35:37 AM
 :o
FUCK ?!


Whether they have an 0day exploit for btc-e and mtgox which I highly doubt or they made it somehow to infect your systems which is more likely.
Maybe trough stuff posted here like manipulated images causing bufferoverflows and similar shit..


May I ask which operating system and browser you are using ?
It *might* give a first hint into the right direction..


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: adnanabbas on February 09, 2014, 02:11:39 PM
Some scumbag stole some coins from my cavirtex account, got into my email account and changed password. I am so paranoid now.  Email had ID's  and all sorts.


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: Rawted on February 09, 2014, 03:30:21 PM
How can we be protected by such scumbags and how do they get access to accounts guys?
The above problem is not a gmail security issue. The user was dumb and clicked a link in an email, falling for the common phishing tactic. Then, because he didnt have 2fa or other protection enabled, the attacker was easily able to take control with a slight bit of social engineering.

Once again, the onus is on the user. If you are smart and take precautions, this will never happen to you.


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: Kyraishi on February 09, 2014, 05:29:41 PM
37k btc stolen ?
He's not even using those bitcoin .


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: boumalo on February 09, 2014, 06:47:06 PM
That is a bit frightening; so many bitcoins stolen from so many different accounts...

You would think he would stop stealing and start laundering the money but he doesn't, it must be pretty easy/safe to steal or it is an organisation


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: trashymonkey on February 09, 2014, 08:13:53 PM
How the hell do people do stuff like this


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: fordlincoln on February 09, 2014, 08:37:37 PM
Thats messed up! You got Fiat money stolen out of your Mt Gox account?!

Did you have 2 factor authentication enabled?
Do you use a Yubi Key/Security Card from MtGox? I don't because they charge you $ for it

Could he have obtained your log in credentials through a botnet sitting ontop of the Mtgox log in page? (Technical guys - I'm not sure if this is possible, maybe you can shed some light here?)

Perhaps there's a keylogger on your computer installed, that could be how he got into your account?

Thats crazy, sorry you went through that. I got scammed from localbitcoins.com for 1.3BTC and this was not the first time I was scammed for my bitcoins.



Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: mcleo on February 09, 2014, 08:47:41 PM
Is it possible that MtGox is starting to steal from their own members wallets before they get sued big FIAT dollars?
The Bitcoin will remain untouchable, but all of the $ will be taken from that after a class action lawsuit.  How can one explain 36,700 stolen Bitcoins? 


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: Quix on February 09, 2014, 09:04:03 PM
Anything is possible, I wouldn't trust MTGox with anything right now. The rumour is that they don't actually have the money to pay their customers because they've been paying operating costs (including lawsuits) using customer funds.


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: mpattison on February 09, 2014, 09:12:09 PM
I've got more than enough funds sitting in MtGox right now to begin pursuing them via legal action right now.  I am sick to my ****ing stomach because my gut is telling me that I am out an inexplicable amount of money.

Why I kept most of my funds in BTC, that's a question I'll be asking myself for a long, long time.

All I know, is that I am now ALL IN when it comes to pursuing these mother****ers through every single legal alleyway my lawyer will find.  I am currently trying to find a lawyer who specializes in virtual currency (in New York).  If anyone has a connection let me know.

I am not holding my breath thinking that they will magically find enough BTC to give customers theirs back.

I am of the belief that my Bitcoins are gone.

Private investigators, in my experience, are a 100% sure-fire way to waste money and valuable time when it comes to legal battles.  Most evidence they turn up is not permissible in the court-of-law, with that said, I am already trying to brainstorm my attack here.

I am sure I am not alone here, so if anyone wants to team-up and get the ball rolling, shoot me a PM.

Scummy mother****ers will go down.

EDIT: Sorry OP.  Might have hijacked here.
Maybe it was a legit hacker who took your BTC but I wouldn't put it past the OPs of MtGox siphoning their own users money under the table.


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: adnanabbas on February 09, 2014, 09:24:17 PM
I've got more than enough funds sitting in MtGox right now to begin pursuing them via legal action right now.  I am sick to my ****ing stomach because my gut is telling me that I am out an inexplicable amount of money.

Why I kept most of my funds in BTC, that's a question I'll be asking myself for a long, long time.

All I know, is that I am now ALL IN when it comes to pursuing these mother****ers through every single legal alleyway my lawyer will find.  I am currently trying to find a lawyer who specializes in virtual currency (in New York).  If anyone has a connection let me know.

I am not holding my breath thinking that they will magically find enough BTC to give customers theirs back.

I am of the belief that my Bitcoins are gone.

Private investigators, in my experience, are a 100% sure-fire way to waste money and valuable time when it comes to legal battles.  Most evidence they turn up is not permissible in the court-of-law, with that said, I am already trying to brainstorm my attack here.

I am sure I am not alone here, so if anyone wants to team-up and get the ball rolling, shoot me a PM.

Scummy mother****ers will go down.

EDIT: Sorry OP.  Might have hijacked here.
Maybe it was a legit hacker who took your BTC but I wouldn't put it past the OPs of MtGox siphoning their own users money under the table.

"legit hacker" this sounds so wrong


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: Crystallas on February 10, 2014, 01:08:38 AM
May I ask which operating system and browser you are using ?
It *might* give a first hint into the right direction..

FreeBSD(see avatar) and Firefox, doesn't matter. I run all bitcoin related events in a virtual machine. Max security =/= guaranteed protection. Anyways, I've been investigating the issue for some time, and my mail service support gave me a log of all activity. BTC-E alerts email on login, and I received no "BTC-E successful authentication" email which was verified from the logs. This exploit was done outside of my own system.


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: LeancyBTC on February 10, 2014, 01:30:22 PM
Has anyone considered this might be MtGox's doing? Given the current situations MtGox is facing with the whole "transaction malleability" issue, could they be transferring all BTC from user accounts into one address for "safe-keeping" until they fix whatever it is they're trying to fix? I do find it kind of strange this so-called hacker stole thirty something thousands worth of Bitcoins and is just letting it sit there. Has anyone tried contacting MtGox directly? Like.. as in person to try to get some answers?


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: yannis7777 on February 10, 2014, 01:39:54 PM
How can we be protected by such scumbags and how do they get access to accounts guys?
The above problem is not a gmail security issue. The user was dumb and clicked a link in an email, falling for the common phishing tactic. Then, because he didnt have 2fa or other protection enabled, the attacker was easily able to take control with a slight bit of social engineering.

Once again, the onus is on the user. If you are smart and take precautions, this will never happen to you.
So by not clicking links or attachments we are safe?


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: grumpy619 on February 11, 2014, 02:51:40 PM
Wow what I am seeing is that scammers / hackers are responsible for all the BITCOIN drama that is happening. What if this was a plot to destroy BITCOIN at the consumer level. 


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: Phoenix1969 on February 11, 2014, 02:53:24 PM
Bitcoin transactions are an "Open book"
Just follow the transactions, and google every wallet address....   eventually, you will find an account linked to them.
It CAN be done. You will find them, don't give up.

if you PM me, I may be able to get Nasa/Jpl to help you track the wallets if you are willing to share a bit of reward with them.

There's also...  http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~smeiklejohn/  she can do magic too. She developed a special bitcoin transaction tracking software.


For the future...
1.NEVER store BTC online.
2. Always use 2FA.
3. Never click on links in e-mails, ever. That's the oldest trick in the book.
ewok


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: CumAndGetIt on February 11, 2014, 03:04:37 PM
It doesnt need to be hack or anything, he may have had access to ur Gmail via recovery form,


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: Crystallas on February 12, 2014, 04:14:26 AM
I'm still tracking the ledger. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it.  Just to be clear, there are two people in this thread talking about the same person, so two different situations, methods, and exchanges.

Here is the other account that these coins have been dumped in. https://blockchain.info/address/185zyps34SJdNYkutTZhAFHkEh1zoX4mCR
As you can see, they are actively being mixed.

I had this bit of coin online, because I was actively exchanging it. Otherwise it would have been in an offline wallet. Email wasn't hacked(which was confirmed by my email provider), unique password was used, and 2FA would have helped(I would have LOVED to use 2FA, I begged for 2FA in chat), but BTC-e's 2FA is still new(maybe post hack) and setup is not in english yet (https://btc-e.com/profile#security/2fa). The last thing I would want to do is assume setup, and have an nonretrievable 2FA password. Oh, and links in email, nope. I didn't. This account was strictly accessed from a virtual machine which is bitcoin only, and only used to make bitcoin transactions.


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: guugll on February 23, 2014, 07:49:05 AM
Crystallas: thx for active reply and the recon you have done - good job.

in my case nice move has been done - MtGox refunded my lost $ with BTC as the attacker changed the $ for BTC. I must say i am happy they done this move and it makes an good feeling after i saw lot of issues, i must say this is not an issue anymore for me. Also must say its respectfull move from MtGox.

so in my case i do not hunt any money as i got my stuff back.

But i would like to cooperate on the hunt for the thief as his primary atack was on my gmail account.

Of course setting any and every account mail/exchange to paranoid security as this is beeing wild like back in the cowboys time if you had a piece of gold in your pocket...  so if you wanna ask me: is BTC same like gold - well it certainly look like you need to secure it the same way.

Good luck and be carefull!


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: guugll on February 23, 2014, 06:13:28 PM
i was wrong about the situation, just read the logs...

2014/02/06 02:51:24   In      0.00100000 BTC   2.46178942 BTC
Cancelled transfer because of timeout (fee): Bitcoin withdraw to 1Q1Wo95FcXvrhDB5ieDMk52qDs2yNfpySN
2014/02/06 02:51:24   In      2.46000000 BTC   2.46078942 BTC
Cancelled transfer because of timeout: Bitcoin withdraw to 1Q1Wo95FcXvrhDB5ieDMk52qDs2yNfpySN

i got my BTC back because of timeout :-)


Title: Re: my mtgox account has been robbed this night.
Post by: EvilPanda on February 23, 2014, 07:08:41 PM
This would've never happened if you had a locked withdrawal address. This way even if they hack the account they can only send bitcoins to you, but what do you expect from Gox, it's the worst exchange out there. Some people never learn :(