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I remember the dialog from Agent Smith in matrix movie he stated that humans goto a region and colonize it until every recourse is consumed and then they move to a different place. and the same pattern is followed by the viruses around us. So are we a species whose behavior is similar like virus or it makes viruses a supreme living/non living organisms.

basically humans are leaders in this world, but because of their greed then the desire to get something that will make people colonize each other and control other areas to be able to have it, so it can be disabbed like a virus that always spread the disease, but I think not all humans like that, many of us love each other instead of spreading the virus, here's my opinion on this

I have always agreed with that statement.  I used to think that globally everyone could get behind the idea that we need to change our thought patterns and consumption trends, but I don't see it anymore. What is far more likely is that like many Sci-Fi series show is that we are going to spread to other planets or natural satellites to colonize and consume.

I also see another factor coming into play that distinguishes us from a virus. Thanks once again to our continued over consumption of goods, this time antibiotics, we are creating the planets cure for us in the form antibiotic resistant infections and illnesses.

I guess you could also argue that we are some type of super virus, as I don't know of a virus that will kill/consume itself (same species/race) as a found resource in a new host.

Human behavior is similar to virus due to its capability to explore and think beyond every border to help its survival. If you would check, we are not different from any plant virus or any animal virus, we tend to exhaust our available natural resources for us to survive; we will do anything to sustain life, which is inevitable for species. The difference on viruses is that they have some cure(some will have) or they have some kind of killers to turn down its populations, that would help its host prevent more damaging effects, while humanity do not have any threat(natural killer) that could help decrease its populations, a problem our host is facing right now. That is why I think we can be classify as supreme virus.

We are a plague. More like a multi-cell bacteria than a virus.

I guess technically you can say that we are like viruses since we affect every part of the earth in a negative way. Maybe not in a negative way for us, but in a negative way for plants and animals and the chemical composition that they require. Just everything as a whole.

I think this topic might in a way be relevant with the Fermi paradox/Great Filter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#It_is_the_nature_of_intelligent_life_to_destroy_itself), on why we can't find any aliens.
At some point, we get too advanced and basically make ourselves extinct.

I think it's relevant because it might be, in a sense, biology, where species who reach a "dangerous" level of intelligence, exhaust the resources(of the earth in this case).
A bit like how there are animals that can regulate and avoid having children(not a concious decision), when the flock is too big.
Any species maybe reaches a certain dangerous point where we basically are a virus in terms of damaging for the ecosystem as a whole(animals and nature dying etc),
and then it's biologically programmed that we make ourselves extinct when we reach a certain point (where we are "too bad of a virus")!

Yes , I think human is the root to destroy earth. It is like a virus which spread along the edge of earth.

Yeah but we also like care about earth in general because it'd threaten our existance. So like parasites?

Right now almost 80% of the world's surface area is under human occupation, which leaves less than 20% to all the other species. And this 20% is also encroached by humans almost everyday, resulting in further shrinkage.

Your post is great, I've been thinking a lot about your post, and I agree with your view that humans are also creatures that grow and die, but are creatures Supreme. And I think it's like a fast-paced virus that can lose control, a virus that destroys the habitat is using it depleted. But there are also some who are more advanced (evolutionary viruses) to look for better things for the planet's environmental life.

not necessarily,

you could also consider humans as being part of the earts evolution, so it can spread its biosphere to other planets.

because only humans build spaceships on earth

I understand why some people might think we are, but we're all still part of nature, technically. Environment always changes through the eons, and without that change the current species wouldn't be there. If dinosaurs hadn't died out, we wouldn't be here.

Yes. But maybe we’re more like bacteria rather than viruses. It's just my opinion.

Lol. This is a funny but an interesting question.
From your perspective or from the movie the matrix, what do you think? Anyway, you have a point. We have similarities to a virus.
We multiply, consumed everything , we destroyed our place and were intelligent species. Much like the Virus. But, i personally believe were a bit different from a Virus. How? Because were not the best at everything but we try to be. Even if it seems all hopes were lost we chose to do the right thing. we have so much more. We have different choices and a Virus doesnt have that, they were program only to multiply and destroy everything.

Not humans. Only the people who promote modern vaccines which make people sicker in other ways.

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I'd say that we are defo more Bacteria than a Virus.

Humans are the Earth's precious and greatest gem; at the same time, Earth's greatest threat --- and yes, somehow, humans are just like virus for the Earth. If we are going to base man's act affecting the Earth, we will realize how rude, abusive, and careless we are. Everything we hold and in everywhere we go, things get destroyed. It is like we infect that area and then afterwards, if it is already infected, useless, and meaningless, we tend to let it go, or abandon it and find another place to suck and gets its nutrition. We are like virus that's epidemic and need to be terminated for someone to be cured. However, if we choose to bwxome a virus, we hould be agood one that balnce everything and not destructs anything.

For me i think it`s because our community right now is overpopulated and maybe the government cannot controlled due of having a higher percentage of young women getting pregnant at the adolescent age. Humans like us cannot be controlled and it keeps on getting our community bigger, people should probably used the family planning in order to minimized the population.

It's an interesting way to look at people but I guess we are similar to viruses for the Earth. Because the doings of people destroy the world. And viruses also destroy living organisms from the inside.

I also Immediately thought of The Matrix when i seen the title for this thread. Here are the words of the infamous Agent Smith himself...

“I´d like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species, and I realized that you’re not actually mammals.

Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way can survive is to spread to another area.

There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus.

Human beings are a disease-a cancer of this planet. You’re a plague, and we, are the cure.”

Legendary words. Sadly I agree with him to some extent. We are the parasites of almost every resource and animal on the planet. That said, id rather be a human than anything else.  :D

Humanity is a life form. Like other life forms, we impact our environment. We also impact the evolution of other life forms on the planet. If you were going to compare us to something, we might be more like ants or termites.

I don't think so. However, maybe people are aliens, and we are all from a different planet.

I don't think viruses are the best comparison. Viruses live inside living cells of other organisms and spread. I can't think of an analogy with people. If I take your definition, then I have to disagree there too. It is basically assuming that all humans only have a destructive impact on the earth. There are certainly humans that improve the earth around them. Once I visited a small farm in Brazil. It was run by an older woman from Switzerland. She had take a piece of land in the desert and completely brought it to life. There were so many different plants there. I think this is a good example of a human actually helping rather than bringing down.

Agent smith is exactly what i think of when i saw your post. I think we are becoming a virus because we are destroying this planet

Humans destroy the planet, that is what is going here I think. We all want to have a better life. We aim for a beautiful world, but we do not take care of our environment. It is what we do that makes us toxic in this world, not us itself. Perhaps if we do better then we might deserve to be here.

Judging by what is happening in the modern world, this thought has the right to exist. The individual is beautiful. Every person is unique, like a flower or a snowflake. But the whole of mankind is aggressive, soulless and selfish. I want to believe that in the future peoples will be better.

This is such total nonsense.

The environment is better cared for today than at any time in the past.

Humans are not virus of the Earth. We are born innate in goodness by the virtue of God and I believed commuting mistakes and sins are natural for us because no man is perfect. Humans can still do things blue to what other living creatures can. Humans are the caregivers of this planet, no matter what chaos life may bring.

Filling ourselves with self loathing wont solve the problem Humanity has the potential to achieve beautiful outcomes. We are creative and caring beings and many of us love the planet that we call home.
To suggest that we are nothing but hateful and destructive and to turn that belief inwards on ourselves and outwards to others, leads to nothing but hate and destruction.
We need a new narrative to frame our existence on this planet and to guide us in how to treat it. You have to do that from a position of hope surely?

Oh! Agent Smith in Matrix movie.
 I still want another Matrix movie from the brothers/sisters Wachowski.
To answer your question, I would like to say that he is quite right.
 We are here in the duality of existence.
It is a real paradox.
Look at how we build our roads, houses and schools.
We first destroy everything around and then build.
It is maybe a wrong concept.
 In this allegory, agent Smith compares us to viruses and yes, he is right.
 But what does he propose? The question is:  How to exist, develop our world and ourselves without destroying the Earth.

Yes, as what I can observed, we are the virus for the earth. A virus is something that affects its host in a negative way. Same thing with humans, we keep on devastating our world, we cut a lot of trees, we emit a lot of harmful gases, and we always use plastic, and all of that affects our world negatively. We are supposed the one who should make our world better but what happens is the other way around. Also, it is sad to see that instead of finding cure on the disease of earth, we tend to just find another earth to live in and that's really sad.

In my opinion, I think humans are not viruses, because there are so many human beings who take care of the environment and many others are environmentally destructive, even so we can not judge human being is a virus.

if indeed humans are viruses on earth why are there still many people living, whose name the virus must be killed so as not to damage something ?

reality sucks but yes. i think us humans is like a virus why? cause we do all we want to be even its good or bad.example in nature many ppl cut tree for money after cutting they do not replace it. they didnt even care about what will happen if they cut trees. and also many of us is thinking about money and power. they care about other they thinking about only their self in that the injustice in our society. and thats not good.

How can you explain "beautiful" people make up such a horrible mankind? How can a group as a whole have qualities that none of its members possess? I don't think that's possible. It certainly is possible that many of most people are "beautiful" great people, but we can't do bad things as "mankind" if nobody is doing bad things in it. I think maybe the "good" people are just not aware of the bad things others are doing, but that doesn't mean that those things aren't happening. We need to raise more awareness about what's happening.

Nice metaphor, but I don't think humans could be qualified as exactly as viruses because there are lots of other living organisms on our planet. I believe, we are just one kind of those germs lol We are pests ;)

I strongly disagreed, humans are not virus for the earth; rather they are virtue for the earth. Without humans, the planet earth can't fulfill its purpose. Without human the earth will be shapeless and meaningless. God knows the earth can't survive in the absence of humans that was why He created Adam after He had created all things.

Humans are inhabitants of the earth, how can you say or label human beings as
"virus" for the earth? we may be exploiting earth's resources but a lot are
actually aware and are doing some stuff about it. No virus does that.

A lot of people might have abused the resources in our world but it does not mean that their goal is to destroy it. The technology directly harms the earth and it's not humans. We are just very irresponsible like throwing plastics everywhere especially in the ocean.

Humans ego is the biggest virus. If people would be able to control their ego world would look like much differently.

I think that the humans are not a virus fo Earth since we, together with other forms of life, share a common home in Earth and it hold the great and complex interactions and relationships between every beings in the Earth. It raises the question of abuse since we are not bound by anyone to exploit the resources in Earth. We are free to do anything. If we have a srong will and laws to be responsible in exploiting the Earths resources, we will not be labeled as "virus" of the Earth.

I got some news for you, deserts are ecosystems.

Why do you praise destroying it?

I don't really believe in this anymore, but Christians usually believe that the Earth was actually created for humans. The idea is that God created the Earth and all living things on it for humans to use. I don't think that the Earth would not be able to survive without humans. I can't see any logic in that at all. I'm pretty sure the Earth did just fine for millions of years before humans. You really think we've made the Earth better as a whole?

it's true that humans are virus for the earth because when we are harvesting the resources we don't do it in the right way like when we cut trees we don't plant more tree for future benefit because all we are thinking are present profits and benefits but not future cause or disaster.

I don't think humans are the earth's virus.Now humanity is moving into a new era-the era of Aquarius.It will not plunder resources.Humanity will finally move from the paradigm of destruction to creation.

I agree that human is viruses of the earth ,For example human throw garbages on river or in the canal which causes the sickness of other people,animals and plants.Human is a living organisms and what we they do on our surrounding has a bad effect to them in return.

We have to survive that's why consuming nature is very essential for us to live.

The environment is also returning the favor to us, there are calamities, natural disasters and everything which is the result by not taking care of it.

All we do is to consume.

Agree, this is survivability.

For other species on the planet, Homo sapiens are obviously viruses. Homo sapiens wipe many species off the planet wherever they go, even the Neanderthals and Homo erectus can’t escape，let alone other thousands of species of flora and fauna.

i also thought that way for a while, damn was my mind fucked up back then,

but trusting in god saved me, from this environmentalists propaganda.

i recommend everyone the same

Not by true definition, but I suppose it depends on your definition of a virus:


I guess we do replicate and tend to destroy our habitat so if we're destroying our host (earth) then maybe we are a virus to our planet. I think the term parasite is a much more apt term and fits the definition better though:


I guess it's just a natural course of survival though. We need to consume in order to survive, but obviously humans have greed which complicates the matter and speeds up the process of destruction of our surroundings. The question is is it too late? The worst thing that will happen is we kill ourselves off and the planet will sort itself out eventually possibly for another round  ;D.

Man cannot necessarily be described as a virus to the earth. We more than just feed on the earth. I think if my knowledge of biology is not that rusty, then viruses don't add value to their host. Man on the other hand gives to the earth. In many places and times in history, we have beautified the earth and made it a better planet. In other circumstances, we have also been viruses. So, it's a give and take thing. We uproot trees and harvest plants. But we also plant and nurture the vegetation too. And viruses don't do that.

i think humans is the greatest threat on earth. but not everyone. but mostly they didnt think the after effect of what they doing. hmmm. im forgot, im a human tho :D

Actually it's ONLY HUMANS who can think the after effect of what they doing.

Because plagues, forest fires, solar storms, volcanos, typhoons, and earthquakes do not think.

Not exactly Virus of the earth. God created Man to manage all of His creation. But in some point nowadays we fail our duty, Man became selfish that they don't want to exert effort protecting out environment and forget that we are living in earth that we are distracting. We became the opposite of what we are ought to be and little by little wrecking our environment just like what viruses do to out stuffs.

This is something that I´ve written about and though about alto and we sure are acting like a virus in many ways. When we learn to compete and capitalize everything, there is no ecology and sustainability in mind, only to maximize profits what ever it comes to. We abuse the land we live on, water sources, forests and so on, to such a degree that coming generations wont have anything left. This is exactly how most viruses work, they use every last resource available until the host dies and the virus must spread, just like humans have done on earth and now many are thinking about populating space, when earth is used out.

Viruses are mainly RNA coated with proteins and no intelligent life, just like humanity in the state we are. As long as greed drives our minds they simply take the path of least resistance for the self. This will cause everyone to accumulate and consume as much as possible with no regard. As long as we just move along with this trend we are not conscious since such a being would act for the greater good, for the best of humanity and everything would change, money would have no grasp on us.

Today humans go to war for money, build prisons and uphold laws for money, build and enforce the banking system against their own good, then just go by in silent obedience as long as the pay check keeps coming. This is not conscious behavior merely going by, so we sure are in a virus like state today, hopefully that will change when we got no water of plants left on earth!

Humans are viruses in a way. All living things are from a certain perspective. We colonize places that allow for life and try to become as powerful as possible, oftentimes not even thinking twice about the consequences. We will do what it takes to survive though, whether that means colonizing space or doing the bare minimum to keep earth habitable and somewhat comfortable.

He has a point in saying that and is justifiable. Although according to the Bible, human beings are created superior than animals and any other living creatures and we are the ultimate creation of God but based on what is happening, humankind, instead of preserving the earth they are destroying it and worst is, most of us is not aware that we are destroying it.

A bacteriophage is a virus. There are, maybe, millions of them. Some of them protect bacteria from drugs that would destroy the bacteria. Some of them are the only thing that destroy bacteria when drugs fail.

So you see? Some viruses are good, and some are bad. The whole world-system is breaking down. Human beings can't be equated with a virus of the Earth.

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Yes, this is part of the truth. But in contrast to the virus, people are endowed with reason, and they themselves can decide how to deal with nature, what way they have to go: to destroy everything or create. But unfortunately, humanity has not yet fully realized this. I think this film is good because it makes us think about it. What to choose? We decide this.

I think people are not a virus. Rather, the virus in people in their heads. Because what they do is almost tantamount to suicide. I mean, the pollution of the environment, the destruction of rare species of animal that our ecosystem needs, and so on. All this leads to serious problems because of which humanity will perish first of all, and not the planet. It will take some time and the planet will be restored, and humanity will never.
So we need to think about what we are doing, because first of all we kill ourselves ..

Yes we are. Just take a look at the shooting that happened a couple of hours ago in Thousand Oaks. We may be on top of the food chain, but we're also savages who kills for sport. We terrorize not just each other, but also the planet and a whole lot of us aren't even bothered by what is happening with the world right now.