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Title: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 03, 2018, 01:04:35 PM
Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers


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Manager
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Contact
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Past Work
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Payment
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Max. participants
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ANN
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SMAS list
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Campaigns managed
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Default Trust
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BoXXoB (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=407841)
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EMAIL (boxxobcampaigns@gmail.com), PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=407841),
TELEGRAM (https://t.me/BoXXoB)
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BitDice Signature Campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1697546.0), BitDice Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046450.0)
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Bitcoin and Altcoins
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20-30
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Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2603353.msg26491703#msg26491703)
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N/A
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2
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20:-0/+2
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DarkStar_ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=507936)
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PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=507936),
TELEGRAM (https://t.me/darkstarftw)
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Refer ANN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1655531)
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Bitcoin and popular altcoins
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Unlimited
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Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1655531)
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DarkListô (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2817512.0)
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7
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57:-0/+7
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Hhampuz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=881377)
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EMAIL (Hhampuz@gmail.com), PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=881377),
TELEGRAM (https://t.me/Hhampuz)
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FortuneJack (Active) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3248711.0), Bitcore (Active) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4236229.msg38444364#msg38444364)
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Bitcoin/Ethereum
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Unlimited
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Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4873710.0)
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N/A
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8
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37:-0/+6
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Hilariousandco (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164822)
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PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=164822)
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Docademic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2862971.0)
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Bitcoin/Ethereum
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Unlimiited
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Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1091444.0)
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N/A
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8+
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77:-0/+9
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irfan_pak10 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=350580)
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EMAIL (irfanpak10@gmail.com), PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=350580),
TELEGRAM (http://t.me/irfan_pak10), WEBSITE (http://bountyportals.com)
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Past Work (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NJFO_p3ZK60XpiMgo1DjadtnndeeHlr6ew24ANHmfxo/edit#gid=0)
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Bitcoin/ Ethereum and Bitcoin Cash
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4k+
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Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2054990.0)
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N/A
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60+
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10:-0/+1
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izanagi narukami (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=334527)
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EMAIL (ardenliw@gmail.com), PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=334527),
TELEGRAM (http://t.me/ShinMegami)
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Refer ANN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=788233.0)
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Bitcoin or Ethereum
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50
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Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=788233.0)
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N/A
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6
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10:-0/+1
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Lauda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872)
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EMAIL (lauda.m@protonmail.ch), PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=101872),
TELEGRAM (https://t.me/GrumpyKitty)
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Bitmixer.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1657397), Coinpayments.net (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2222129.440), Truegame (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2990314.0), Vivid (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3918379.0), Bitsend (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1850924.0)
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Bitcoin and Altcoins
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Unlimited
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N/A
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SMAS list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2108952.0)
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5
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2:-2/+13
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LoyceV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459836)
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EMAIL (LoyceValenzuela@gmail.com), PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=459836),
TELEGRAM (https://t.me/LoyceV)
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Refer ANN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777744.0)
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Bitcoin, GBYTE or Blackbytes
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50
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Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777744.0)
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Public Blacklist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777744.msg25043219#msg25043219)
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1
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15:-0/+3
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Lutpin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=520313)*
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EMAIL (bitcointalk@lutp.in), PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=520313)
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Refer ANN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1363152.msg13872341#msg13872341)
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Bitcoin
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N/A
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Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1363152.msg13872341#msg13872341)
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SMAS list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1545652.msg15536655#msg15536655)
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13
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120:-0/+12
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MadZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=174480)
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EMAIL (thatmadz@gmail.com), PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=174480),
TELEGRAM (https://t.me/TheMadZ)
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IOS campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3170747.msg32799930#msg32799930)
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Bitcoin or tradable altcoins in the coinmarketcap top 100
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100
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N/A
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N/A
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1
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10:-0/+2
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notaek (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=76847)
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EMAIL (notaekbtc@gmail.com), PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=76847),
TELEGRAM (https://t.me/notaek)
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Jetwin (follow-up) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2528724.0)
NitrogenSports (active) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689841)
Bitcoin 2 (active) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2962973)
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Bitcoin or Ethereum only
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Unlimited
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N/A
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N/A
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7
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27:-0/+3
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OgNasty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18321)
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EMAIL (askognasty@gmail.com), PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=18321),
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Bitcoin.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1671041.0), Rent-a-sig campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1914888.0)
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Bitcoin/Litecoin/Namecoin/Ravencoin
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Unlimited
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N/A
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N/A
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2
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337:-0/+35
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Woshib (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=798632)
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EMAIL (contact@woshib.fr), PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=798632),
TELEGRAM (https://t.me/Woshib)
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Refer ANN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2006299.msg19971377#msg19971377)
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Bitcoin
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Unlimited
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Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2006299.msg19971377#msg19971377)
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N/A
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20
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49:-0/+8
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Yahoo62278 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355846)
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EMAIL (faqtom@yahoo.com), PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=355846),
TELEGRAM (https://t.me/yahoo62278)
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Refer ANN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1704638.0)
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Bitcoin or Altcoin listed on a Top 3 exchange
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Unlimited
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Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1704638.0)
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SMAS list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1661654.msg16680971#msg16680971)
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50+
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60:-0/+6
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* - It means that the manager is currently having issues with his campaign.

Lutpin has been inactive, and hasn't paid his campaign participants in over 2 months, and hasn't even bothered to explain himself(yet). I'd strongly advise to be careful when contacting him until things get sorted out.




Description:

BoXXoB:

BoXXob has been managing the BitDice signature campaign for more than one and half years now,and users have been paid out every single week without any issues. The participants of BitDice signature campaign are very limited and their post quality is top-notch,thanks to BoXXoB for keeping a close eye to the participants.
DarkStar_:

DarkStar_ is one of the best managers that I have ever worked along with! He offers loans,provides escrows and manages signature campaigns and much more. He has been managing ChipMixer campaign for more than a year now has paid every single week on time(Keep in mind that ChipMixer campaign is one of the higher paying campaign)! He has managed to have a good list of participants for his campaigns and he makes sure that the participants are not engaged in spamming. I personally recommend DarkStar_ because he is a top-rated campaign manager.

Hhampuz:

Hhampuz,one of the cherished members in the Collectibles section has been managing campaigns for a while now, and has been trusted with Hundreds of thousands of dollars. He has known to have so many trades,auctions,raffles,and much more in the collectibles section,making him a true hardcore bitcoiner. He keeps his head high,respects people and strives to deliver whatever he promises every single time and makes it his topmost priority to make all the parties involved happy at the end of the day.

Hilariousandco:

Hilariousandco,a Lamborghini Member, is a global moderator of this forum and is one of the biggest contributors in bitcointalk history. This user knows a lot about bitcoin and bitcointalk. He has been actively fighting against spammers and is a one of the few reliable members of the forum. He is one of the very few users who is trusted by a great deal of people in bitcointalk.  :D

irfan_pak10:

irfan_pak10,founder of bountyportals.com (http://bountyportals.com) has been an early bitcoin enthusiast,and is the current CEO of his website(bountyportals.com (http://bountyportals.com)) He has managed more than 45 campaigns and all of them have been a great success. This user has a lot of experience and can handle more than 4000 participants per campaign. They have distributed more than 300BTC and have more than 10,000 bounty hunters on their platform.

izanagi narukami:

izanagi narukami is one of the old bitcointalk managers,and has done a great job in all of his campaigns. He also designs signatures for campaigns and is amazing at what he does. Even though he is not a native English speaker,he knows what he is up against and always delivers his best. Whichever campaign he manages,he makes sure that there are no spammers involved. :)

Lauda:

Lauda, current DT2 member has been helping the community for years now. He/she manages campaigns, bounties professionally and ethically. He/she is a part of Crypto escrow team(CET) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1938190) and is also a part of ACE- AD Campaign Experts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597297.msg16040608#msg16040608). Lauda keeps his/her word and delivers as expected every single time. Lauda has been fighting against spammers,scammers and has proven to be one of the best.

Loyce V:

Loyce V,one of the best posters in bitcointalk,has been known to be the great Spam Buster of this forum. He has managed to report thousands of accounts who have been caught breaking the rules,and has managed a lot of rollin.io giveaways. He has also been a mod at rollin.io and is one heck of a bitcoiner. His knowledge of bitcoin is unquestionable and is always on the verge to help this forum and this community as a whole.

Lutpin:

Lutpin,one of the best campaign managers of bitcointalk has managed a lot of long-term campaigns of this forum. He is also an early bitcoiner and has a great knowledge of gambling sites. He has been managing the Crypto Games campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082477.0) for 4 years now and 3 other campaigns for more than 1 and a half years (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1363152.msg13872341#msg13872341). He has paid out more than 60BTC to his participants and really does a wonderful job. He is also a part of ACE- AD Campaign Experts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597297.msg16040608#msg16040608),along with a few other reputed members.

MadZ:

MadZ,an active DT2 member has spent a great deal of time busting scammers and helping out users. He has been managing the IOS campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3170747.msg32799930#msg32799930) and has paid out more than 150,000$ to the participants in Bitcoin and tokens. He is also an active trader and is a reputed person in this forum. He keeps his head high and doesn't let his judgment waver.

notaek:

notaek, one of the early bitcoiners,has been managing campaigns for years now. He has been managing the Nitrogen Sports (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689841.msg16959083#msg16959083) campaign for more than one and a half years now,and has paid out his participants week after week. He also has a great knowledge of bitcoin,and is a very straight-forward friendly person. Any issues that arise around him,are taken care of promptly and smoothly.

OgNasty:

OgNasty is the most trusted person in bitcointalk. He has done thousands of trades and has managed to escrow over 19,000 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303281.msg3244972#msg3244972)BTC thus far. He has managed Bitcoin.com's signature campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1671041.0) and has also been managing the Rent-a-sig campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1914888.0),by renting trusted member's signatures,and has been paying them out every month for the past year,right on time. This user is strictly professional and doesn't let his personal business come in between his professional business.

Woshib:

Woshib,one of the more experienced campaign managers,has managed more than 20 campaigns so far. This user is an active trader in the collectibles section,and offers a great deal in campaign management. He has paid out more than 150BTC worth of tokens to his campaign participants. He handles his campaigns smoothly without any issues.

Yahoo62278:

Yahoo62278,is THE campaign manager. He has been voted to be the best campaign manager (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1614992.msg16227083#msg16227083),and has the most experience of managing campaigns. He has paid out around 100-200BTC to his participants and has even paid out of his own pocket,when he got scammed himself. He is highly professional in his campaign management,is also an active scam buster in this forum.


Disclaimer:

- The above information is strictly meant for professional purposes only. Misuse of information may warrant you a negative trust rating or even a ban,if you break the forum rules[1].

- The campaign managers have been added to the list based on my judgement. I reserve the right to add or remove any campaign manager.

- Please don't leave any negative unwanted comments on the managers here.

- I reserve the right to add or remove any disclaimers/rules in this thread.

- If anyone wishes to be added on the list,feel free to PM me,and I'll add you only if you're fit to be on the list,based on my judgement.  

- The list comprises of anti-spam managers only.

- This is an unofficial thread of campaign managers.

- If you do not wish to run a signature campaign,you can always rent a forum space ad,but its only for non-ICOs. [2]

- If any information in this thread is incorrect, please feel free to correct me.

- Do your own due diligence on the managers,even if the managers are trusted[3] and always ask for a bitcoin signed message/PGP signed message[4], before sending or receiving any funds.

- You and the relevant manager are to be held responsible,if anything goes wrong.
 

Refer Links:

1. Forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)

2. Bitcointalk ad info (https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfo)

3. Default Trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.msg2221664#msg2221664)

4. Bitcoin signed message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0)/ PGP signed message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4059348.0).

Let's all wish these managers to lead this forum to be spam free,and encourage them to help the crypto-community.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 03, 2018, 01:04:47 PM
Reserved.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: mdayonliner on June 03, 2018, 01:25:55 PM
Great job on the list. Good to read especially the little introductions under the list. Looks like some of these members has huge experiences.



update2:
Please ignore below. I got my answers. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4412712.msg39286224#msg39286224)

update1:
DT
Trust is relative, isn't it? The trust we see is based on our own trust settings. So we are seeing pugman's trust setting in OP. My end it will be different and in your end it will be something else. Can anyone correct me if I am wrong? I may be wrong in understanding the trust system.

But, If I am right then may be trust column  need not to be added.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: InvoKing on June 03, 2018, 01:28:00 PM
Nice work. The default trust appears to be good solution to rate them although for Lauda it will be a negative point especially if the person who is willing to hire them hasn't a forum account.
I would recommend an asterisk for lauda instead of showing his DT and add comments on the text about it. (that's my opinion ofc)


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 03, 2018, 01:36:07 PM
Nice work. The default trust appears to be good solution to rate them although for Lauda it will be a negative point especially if the person who is willing to hire them hasn't a forum account.
I would recommend an asterisk for lauda instead of showing his DT and add comments on the text about it. (that's my opinion ofc)
I thought about it too,but there's a conflict between the managers :(. Personal feuds shouldn't come in between of professionalism. But thank you,if more people want it,I'll add some info :).
Great job on the list. Good to read especially the little introductions under the list. Looks like some of these members has huge experiences.
Thanks. :)


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: mdayonliner on June 03, 2018, 01:40:42 PM
Great job on the list. Good to read especially the little introductions under the list. Looks like some of these members has huge experiences.
Thanks. :)

You deserve the good words. By the way I have updated my last post above, I will appreciate your feedback. I might need to review the original trust system topic again.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 03, 2018, 01:45:46 PM
Trust is relative, isn't it? The trust we see is based on our own trust settings. So we are seeing pugman's trust setting in OP. My end it will be different and in your end it will be something else. Can anyone correct me if I am wrong? I may be wrong in understanding the trust system.

But, If I am right then may be trust column  need not to be added.
The trust ratings above are not based on my trust settings. The ratings are purely default,meaning the ones that everybody sees. I didn't the ratings based on my settings,as that would be biased.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: mdayonliner on June 03, 2018, 02:18:16 PM
Trust is relative, isn't it? The trust we see is based on our own trust settings. So we are seeing pugman's trust setting in OP. My end it will be different and in your end it will be something else. Can anyone correct me if I am wrong? I may be wrong in understanding the trust system.

But, If I am right then may be trust column  need not to be added.
The trust ratings above are not based on my trust settings. The ratings are purely default,meaning the ones that everybody sees. I didn't the ratings based on my settings,as that would be biased.

Can you see this (http://prntscr.com/jq9csk)
I believe this is how we set the DefaultTrust? If yes then now I see totally different ratings for above members. It does not match with the original post, my previous post (the post under OP).

What am I missing?  ::)


update:
Thanks pugman (http://prntscr.com/jq9g20) and InvoKing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4412712.msg39286224#msg39286224)
I was in dark LOL

 


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: InvoKing on June 03, 2018, 02:24:22 PM
-snip-

Check the image again and change the number 4 to 2, normally you will see then the correct default trust rating (and let's try to stay on topic ;)).


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: LoyceV on June 03, 2018, 02:32:05 PM
- The thread will be self-moderated to avoid unnecessary spam.
I forget to activate that all the time too :P

Just posting here to read updates. Thanks for doing this!


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 03, 2018, 02:35:14 PM
- The thread will be self-moderated to avoid unnecessary spam.
I forget to activate that all the time too :P
Damn it,you caught hold of it before I removed it >:(. Yeah I forgot too. :(
Just posting here to read updates. Thanks for doing this!
Its my pleasure. I'll make sure to keep this one updated.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: DarkStar_ on June 03, 2018, 03:09:52 PM
DarkStar_:
He has been managing ChipMixer campaign for more than a year now has paid every single week on time

Not entirely accurate, off the top of my head I had to do a double round once and payments were delayed twice (?)


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: hilariousandco on June 03, 2018, 03:44:23 PM
How about including rank and/or sign-up date?

You should probably clarify or confirm those escrowed amounts as well as some of them seem way off. Are they total amounts held over their lifetime or all at once? I suspect people have given both. They can also be misleading. Somebody holding 1 bitcoin a hundred times doesn't mean they can be trusted with 100 bitcoins. Also, somebody holding 100 bitcoins five years or so ago probably wouldn't even be worth 1 bitcoin now. The figure I gave was the highest amount I've held at any one time and was probably over £10k cash value at the time, and I think things like these should be stipulated as they can be very misleading or even give a false sense of security. In this case I think the highest value people have held at any one time is a better indicator. Somebody could quite easily hold on to many small amounts dozens of times until his total is 10 bitcoins or whatever then just disappear if anyone every gives him a large amount at once.


Hilariousandco:

Hilariousandco,a Lamborghini Member,

The one and only. Skurrt skurrt.

He on one of the person who is trusted by a great deal of people in bitcointalk,including theymos.  :D


You should probably remove the part including theymos (unless he's said otherwise). He may trust me to moderate the forum at a Global level but this doesn't necessarily mean he would vouch for me to hold onto large amounts of cash (or run signature campaigns - not that he doesn't or wouldn't but I feel unless he's specifically said this it shouldn't be here and may give me an unfair advantage).


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: DarkStar_ on June 03, 2018, 03:59:06 PM
You should probably clarify or confirm those escrowed amounts as well as some of them seem way off. Are they total amounts held over their lifetime or all at once?

I asked him to clarify and he responded that it's over their lifetime. I do think that maximum amount held at one point is a much better representation.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: The Pharmacist on June 03, 2018, 03:59:37 PM
Props for this nicely-presented list, pugman.  I honestly did not realize there were this many bitcoin-paying sig campaigns still in existence.

I've had good experiences with Yahoo62278, Lutpin, and DarkStar_.  All of them are honest and straighforward and run their campaigns quite well.  I can't speak for the other managers, since I haven't participated in any of their campaigns, but I haven't heard any complaints about them--and that speaks volumes.  Anyone who aspires to be a campaign manager would do well to try to emulate how these individuals operate.

Haven't heard much about SMAS lately.  Is that list still being updated?  The number of spammers certainly hasn't decreased by any means.  I think SMAS was one of the best proactive measures to come along in quite some time.
Not entirely accurate, off the top of my head I had to do a double round once and payments were delayed twice (?)
Must not have been in months, because that hasn't happened since I've been a part of the Chipmixer campaign.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: shahzadafzal on June 03, 2018, 04:10:58 PM
good work @pugman I guess the delay has paid off... finally you have well sorted list of campaign managers.

One question what is this Advertisement space for? Are you going to put your own advertisements here or will be from bitcointalk?

Because this is normal post page and default ad from bitcointalk, after first post will automatically be displayed.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: hilariousandco on June 03, 2018, 04:12:30 PM
You should probably clarify or confirm those escrowed amounts as well as some of them seem way off. Are they total amounts held over their lifetime or all at once?

I asked him to clarify and he responded that it's over their lifetime. I do think that maximum amount held at one point is a much better representation.

Yeah, it's just way too misleading as it is. Also, very hard to validate and I have absolutely no idea how much money I have held over my lifetime here (and I suspect the others don't and are more likely to be estimates). Anyone could just make a figure up if it's not validated, but it's fairly easy to confirm the total amount someone has held at once and I think that is a more telling figure as that's a figure they have previously been trusted to hold on to. I think listing figures like hundreds of bitcoins could easily mislead or confuse people. Probably should be listed in fiat as well for the reasons I mentioned before.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 03, 2018, 04:16:38 PM
Not entirely accurate, off the top of my head I had to do a double round once and payments were delayed twice (?)
The participants were paid at the end of the day. The participants had no problems with the payments being delayed one day because they trust you. Thank you for being honest, I'll try to edit the post when I get back home.
How about including rank and/or sign-up date?
All the campaign managers are hero members at least. The list is already too big, I had to delete a column(the one stating about other campaigns being handled by managers) because the list became too wide.
In this case I think the highest value people have held at any one time is a better indicator. Somebody could quite easily hold on to many small amounts dozens of times until his total is 10 bitcoins or whatever then just disappear if anyone every gives him a large amount at once.
I don't think anybody in the list will risk all their reputation and run away with a few bitcoins. But still I'll make changes to that column, and add the highest amount escrowed at one time to the list.
You should probably remove the part including theymos (unless he's said otherwise). He may trust me to moderate the forum at a Global level but this doesn't necessarily mean he would vouch for me to hold onto large amounts of cash (or run signature campaigns - not that he doesn't or wouldn't but I feel unless he's specifically said this it shouldn't be here and may give me an unfair advantage).
Very well.
Props for this nicely-presented list, pugman.  I honestly did not realize there were this many bitcoin-paying sig campaigns still in existence.

I've had good experiences with Yahoo62278, Lutpin, and DarkStar_.  All of them are honest and straighforward and run their campaigns quite well.  I can't speak for the other managers, since I haven't participated in any of their campaigns, but I haven't heard any complaints about them--and that speaks volumes.  Anyone who aspires to be a campaign manager would do well to try to emulate how these individuals operate.

Haven't heard much about SMAS lately.  Is that list still being updated?  The number of spammers certainly hasn't decreased by any means.  I think SMAS was one of the best proactive measures to come along in quite some time.
Not entirely accurate, off the top of my head I had to do a double round once and payments were delayed twice (?)
Must not have been in months, because that hasn't happened since I've been a part of the Chipmixer campaign.
Thank you for the kind words. Yes, SMAS is being updated, atleast by yahoo62278 and Lauda.
good work @pugman I guess the delay has paid off... finally you have well sorted list of campaign managers.

One question what is this Advertisement space for? Are you going to put your own advertisements here or will be from bitcointalk?

Because this is normal post page and default ad from bitcointalk, after first post will automatically be displayed.
The delay was because I was typing fast, I somehow deleted the entire page, luckily I had saved half of the page in word. So I had to retype again.  :-[
The advertisement is for anybody who wants to advertise their business. I expected that this thread might get a few more views than the normal threads of bitcointalk. Credit goes to Mitchell for that.  :D
Yeah, it's just way too misleading as it is. Also, very hard to validate and I have absolutely no idea how much money I have held over my lifetime here (and I suspect the others don't and are more likely to be estimates). Anyone could just make a figure up if it's not validated, but it's fairly easy to confirm the total amount someone has held at once and I think that is a more telling figure as that's a figure they have previously been trusted to hold on to. I think listing figures like hundreds of bitcoins could easily mislead or confuse people. Probably should be listed in fiat as well for the reasons I mentioned before.
I understand how it could be misleading. I am sorry for causing the confusion here. What I meant was how much have the campaign managers paid out their pastime throughout their campaign management experience. I'll change that info in a few hours. I am currently not near my computer.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: hilariousandco on June 03, 2018, 04:27:27 PM
good work @pugman I guess the delay has paid off... finally you have well sorted list of campaign managers.

One question what is this Advertisement space for? Are you going to put your own advertisements here or will be from bitcointalk?

Because this is normal post page and default ad from bitcointalk, after first post will automatically be displayed.

Didn't notice that. He may just be copying Mitchel's thread, but did you get permission from theymos to advertise there as you need to get the go-ahead from an admin to do that and it's rarely granted?

I don't think anybody in the list will risk all their reputation and run away with a few bitcoins. But still I'll make changes to that column, and add the highest amount escrowed at one time to the list.

Three bitcoins is over $20,000. You can't see why someone would just keep that for themselves? There have been campaign managers and escrows that have or have tried to scam for much less. There are several users on the list who I have no reason to trust with such an amount, but that again is why the most held at once is a much better indicator here.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: InvoKing on June 03, 2018, 04:52:41 PM
the most held at once is a much better indicator here.

This one.
And it should be displayed with USD at the moment the amount was held by the manager.
100 BTC +4 years ago are less than 3 BTC nowadays.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: LoyceV on June 03, 2018, 05:26:04 PM
I think listing figures like hundreds of bitcoins could easily mislead or confuse people. Probably should be listed in fiat as well for the reasons I mentioned before.
Mentioning amounts in dollars just doesn't sound right on a Bitcoin forum. May I suggest using an image (http://btc-priceimg.herokuapp.com/), where you set the amount in dollars, and it shows Bitcoins. Example: $1000=http://btc-priceimg.herokuapp.com/img/1000.
The down side is that it gives weird looking amounts, but it's updated on each reload.

My 5 Bitcoin total was an estimate summing up my portfolio. I can't get an exact amount of how much I've held at once either, as several funds (0.1, 0.65 and 1.25) were overlapping. I think a concervative estimage would be 1.5 BTC in December 2016, worth around $1350 back then. Looking further on my portfolio, to my surprise 0.28518 Bitcoin escrowed in November 2017 was worth more ($2012.89) when I received it, and is currently worth http://btc-priceimg.herokuapp.com/img/2012.89. Full disclosure: I'm still holding funds (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2024536.msg36280043#msg36280043) for something else than a campaign.


The maximum number of participants probably needs clarification too, it now ranges from 20 to 4k+. I assume 20 is for signature campaigns and 4k+ for social media.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: hilariousetc on June 03, 2018, 05:35:16 PM
I think listing figures like hundreds of bitcoins could easily mislead or confuse people. Probably should be listed in fiat as well for the reasons I mentioned before.
Mentioning amounts in dollars just doesn't sound right on a Bitcoin forum. May I suggest using an image (http://btc-priceimg.herokuapp.com/), where you set the amount in dollars, and it shows Bitcoins. Example: $1000=http://btc-priceimg.herokuapp.com/img/1000.
The down side is that it gives weird looking amounts, but it's updated on each reload.



But that isn't an accurate representation either especially if you never held that amount in bitcoin. Not everything has to be denominated in bitcoin either, especially when the value fluctuates so much and that's why a fiat value gives a much better and accurate representation and why it should be represented here. If you held £10k in bitcoins then it's the £10k that is the pertinent figure and that's what others should be judging you on.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: yahoo62278 on June 03, 2018, 05:42:28 PM
Thread looks great and if I am a company looking for advertisement I would use almost any member on this list and feel safe.

The only problem I have with the list is the "Amount Escrowed" column. As stated when I was asked to give you my info, alot of managers pay campaigns themselves. They're not really escrows. Maybe rename the column "Amount of bitcoin held at 1 time"?

The number of 100-200 bitcoin is correct for me as far as bitcoin paid out to users, but incorrect as far as amount held at 1 time. 30-35 bitcoin would be the correct amount I held at 1 time and that number is due to me managing multiple campaigns at once. I would have to go back and look at the bitcoin price at those times to see what the USD amount would be but not going to do so unless requested.


Anyways great job with the thread and to any company looking for a manager, this is a great list to find 1 on.





The maximum number of participants probably needs clarification too, it now ranges from 20 to 4k+. I assume 20 is for signature campaigns and 4k+ for social media.

I suspect the same thing as well. Irfan runs alot of stuff through his bounty portals and most likely that's a social media total. My biggest signature campaign was 200 members at 1 time but I could handle any amount which is why I used unlimited as my answer.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: digaran on June 03, 2018, 06:38:59 PM
Nice to see that the usual cartel members are present here as always. now we know why people want to get into DT list, they want the trust. therefore they are farming trust.
Note that receiving positive trust from DT members after making some deals with them is equal to trust farming. their ratings are visible by default.
Note again that I think 1 person shouldn't manage an unlimited number of participants unless they are superman.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: Quickseller on June 03, 2018, 07:54:29 PM
I would suggest removing the amount escrowed all together.

IMO, most people who represent how much they have escrowed do so in a misleading way, one way or another.

The value of coins varies so much that it is difficult to measure the value of a trade if the coins were held for even a week or so, which is not unusual. As h&c mentioned, holding 1 bitcoin 100 times is very different than holding 100 btc once, and holding one btc two years ago is different than holding a coin today.

Also, holding tokens on behalf of the issuer is borderline dishonest that there is even escrow because it would be trivial for the issuer to effectively void the specific tokens.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pixie85 on June 03, 2018, 09:03:50 PM
I think listing figures like hundreds of bitcoins could easily mislead or confuse people. Probably should be listed in fiat as well for the reasons I mentioned before.
Mentioning amounts in dollars just doesn't sound right on a Bitcoin forum. May I suggest using an image (http://btc-priceimg.herokuapp.com/), where you set the amount in dollars, and it shows Bitcoins. Example: $1000=http://btc-priceimg.herokuapp.com/img/1000.
The down side is that it gives weird looking amounts, but it's updated on each reload.



But that isn't an accurate representation either especially if you never held that amount in bitcoin. Not everything has to be denominated in bitcoin either, especially when the value fluctuates so much and that's why a fiat value gives a much better and accurate representation and why it should be represented here. If you held £10k in bitcoins then it's the £10k that is the pertinent figure and that's what others should be judging you on.

This is a Bitcoin forum, not a fiat forum. If someone is being mislead by prices being given in Bitcoin, or feels mislead by it, should not call himself a bitcoin enthusiast and either educate himself so that he no longer feels mislead, or look for another hobby.
Saying that paying 100 Bitcoin at any point in time isn't an accurate representation is like saying that stealing 100 in 2016 is not a smaller crime than stealing the same amount in 2017. If you hold a certain number of bitcoins, you hold a certain number of bitcoins.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: InvoKing on June 03, 2018, 09:22:56 PM
This is a Bitcoin forum, not a fiat forum. If someone is being mislead by prices being given in Bitcoin, or feels mislead by it, should not call himself a bitcoin enthusiast and either educate himself so that he no longer feels mislead, or look for another hobby.

What you said is true and it was already said by the people you quoted hundreds of time, so don't think that they aren't aware of this.
You didn't pay attention about the main reason why this topic was created. In fact theymos called for it essentially for external investors who don't have forum accounts and who may deal with other coins in addition to BTC, that's why an email was added for example.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: LTU_btc on June 03, 2018, 10:33:31 PM
Great job, pugman. But I think that you forgot to add some managers like Sylon and jamalaezaz. Ok, I'm just kidding. Good that you listed only most professional and most trusted signature managers and you didn't added some random bounty managers. I think soon you may get messages "Why I'm not on your list?" :D
And I didn't knew that OgNasty is also sig. campaign manager. I thought that he is only escrow agent.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 03, 2018, 11:03:20 PM
Didn't notice that. He may just be copying Mitchel's thread, but did you get permission from theymos to advertise there as you need to get the go-ahead from an admin to do that and it's rarely granted?
I have sent theymos a PM,let's see. :-\
Three bitcoins is over $20,000. You can't see why someone would just keep that for themselves? There have been campaign managers and escrows that have or have tried to scam for much less. There are several users on the list who I have no reason to trust with such an amount, but that again is why the most held at once is a much better indicator here.
Agreed. I'll be sending a PM to all the managers and will update it once I start getting responses.
Mentioning amounts in dollars just doesn't sound right on a Bitcoin forum. May I suggest using an image (http://btc-priceimg.herokuapp.com/), where you set the amount in dollars, and it shows Bitcoins. Example: $1000=http://btc-priceimg.herokuapp.com/img/1000.
The down side is that it gives weird looking amounts, but it's updated on each reload.

My 5 Bitcoin total was an estimate summing up my portfolio. I can't get an exact amount of how much I've held at once either, as several funds (0.1, 0.65 and 1.25) were overlapping. I think a concervative estimage would be 1.5 BTC in December 2016, worth around $1350 back then. Looking further on my portfolio, to my surprise 0.28518 Bitcoin escrowed in November 2017 was worth more ($2012.89) when I received it, and is currently worth http://btc-priceimg.herokuapp.com/img/2012.89. Full disclosure: I'm still holding funds (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2024536.msg36280043#msg36280043) for something else than a campaign.


The maximum number of participants probably needs clarification too, it now ranges from 20 to 4k+. I assume 20 is for signature campaigns and 4k+ for social media.
I actually think dollars would be better. I'll probably mention like, "Maximum amount of bitcoins held at one time: 100,000$ worth of BTC".
The number of participants,is not that big of a deal,I expect people to hire like maximum 200 participants per campaign. Beyond that,it will be way too crazy for the company itself, and for the manager,it'd become really hard. And they would also need to shell out a shitload of money for that. I don't think anyone would do that,they would rather hire 20 people and make it a long term campaign,but I may be wrong. There are some crazy people out there.
Thread looks great and if I am a company looking for advertisement I would use almost any member on this list and feel safe.

The only problem I have with the list is the "Amount Escrowed" column. As stated when I was asked to give you my info, alot of managers pay campaigns themselves. They're not really escrows. Maybe rename the column "Amount of bitcoin held at 1 time"?

The number of 100-200 bitcoin is correct for me as far as bitcoin paid out to users, but incorrect as far as amount held at 1 time. 30-35 bitcoin would be the correct amount I held at 1 time and that number is due to me managing multiple campaigns at once. I would have to go back and look at the bitcoin price at those times to see what the USD amount would be but not going to do so unless requested.


Anyways great job with the thread and to any company looking for a manager, this is a great list to find 1 on.





The maximum number of participants probably needs clarification too, it now ranges from 20 to 4k+. I assume 20 is for signature campaigns and 4k+ for social media.

I suspect the same thing as well. Irfan runs alot of stuff through his bounty portals and most likely that's a social media total. My biggest signature campaign was 200 members at 1 time but I could handle any amount which is why I used unlimited as my answer.
Thank you for your kind words. I will be changing the "Amount Escrowed" column in some time.
Nice to see that the usual cartel members are present here as always. now we know why people want to get into DT list, they want the trust. therefore they are farming trust.
Note that receiving positive trust from DT members after making some deals with them is equal to trust farming. their ratings are visible by default.
Note again that I think 1 person shouldn't manage an unlimited number of participants unless they are superman.
I was wondering where you disappeared. Only one cartel member(actmyname) and the Don is there on the list though. Uh-oh. actmyname=marboroza=suchmoon==Don Hilary?
Note that receiving positive trust from DT members after making some deals with them is equal to trust farming. their ratings are visible by default.
So you're saying the whole point of trust-system is useless? Receiving positive trust==trust farming? And receiving negative trust==abuse? Damn you're a retard. Are you still pissed that I didn't add you? ::) Again,don't take it personally. It is only because you have no experience at all in managing campaigns.
I would suggest removing the amount escrowed all together.

IMO, most people who represent how much they have escrowed do so in a misleading way, one way or another.

The value of coins varies so much that it is difficult to measure the value of a trade if the coins were held for even a week or so, which is not unusual. As h&c mentioned, holding 1 bitcoin 100 times is very different than holding 100 btc once, and holding one btc two years ago is different than holding a coin today.

Also, holding tokens on behalf of the issuer is borderline dishonest that there is even escrow because it would be trivial for the issuer to effectively void the specific tokens.
I am changing that entire column.
This is a Bitcoin forum, not a fiat forum. If someone is being mislead by prices being given in Bitcoin, or feels mislead by it, should not call himself a bitcoin enthusiast and either educate himself so that he no longer feels mislead, or look for another hobby.
Saying that paying 100 Bitcoin at any point in time isn't an accurate representation is like saying that stealing 100 in 2016 is not a smaller crime than stealing the same amount in 2017. If you hold a certain number of bitcoins, you hold a certain number of bitcoins.
Yet we have an alternative crypto-currency board/s(local boards have it too). Everyone compares bitcoin in terms of dollars,its nothing new. And it would be better in dollars because people who are new to this stuff may misunderstand because 10BTC a few years ago was worth like 5,000$ and now it is worth 75,000$.
Great job, pugman. But I think that you forgot to add some managers like Sylon and jamalaezaz. Ok, I'm just kidding. Good that you listed only most professional and most trusted signature managers and you didn't added some random bounty managers. I think soon you may get messages "Why I'm not on your list?" :D
And I didn't knew that OgNasty is also sig. campaign manager. I thought that he is only escrow agent.
Thank you for your kind words. If managers haven't been added on the list,they know exactly why and I don't need to make it more clearer to them,although I already did (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4355524.msg39216061#msg39216061). Even I didn't know much about OgNasty managing campaigns but I have come to know about it since a couple of days ago.

Edit: I forgot to ask,user shahzadafzal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1634314) sent me a Pm to make this thread look much clearer, I don't know if I like it or not,so I want the community's opinion :).

Example:
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Manager
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Contact
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Past Work
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Mode of Payment
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Max. No. of participants per campaign
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ANN thread
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SMAS list
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Amount Escrowed
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No. of campaigns managed
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Default Trust
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actmyname (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=465017)
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N/A
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Bitcoin and Altcoins
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Unlimited
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https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3382226.0)
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N/A
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0.4 BTC
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N/A
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27:-0/+4
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Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: TryNinja on June 03, 2018, 11:58:41 PM
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Manager
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Contact
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Past Work
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Mode of Payment
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Max. No. of participants per campaign
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ANN thread
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SMAS list
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Amount Escrowed
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No. of campaigns managed
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Default Trust
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actmyname (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=465017)
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N/A
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Bitcoin and Altcoins
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Unlimited
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https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3382226.0)
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N/A
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0.4 BTC
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N/A
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27:-0/+4
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I thought about this aswell.

Pros:
- Much cleaner and slick.
- The whole "contact" column doesn't take 2 lines anymore.

Cons:
- Icons disappearing if the image proxy goes down (like today).

Overall, I agree with these changes. Maybe change the last icon to Telegram's icon.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: shahzadafzal on June 04, 2018, 12:18:10 AM
Overall, I agree with these changes. Maybe change the last icon to Telegram's icon.

Well I tried to use same images as in https://bitcointalk.org itself, hoping that it won't go to proxyserver e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/bbc/email.gif
But I guess it's still going through proxy server even with relative URL e.g. /Themes/custom1/images/bbc/email.gif

By the way this https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/bbc/tele.gif is telegram just an old one https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/bbc/tele.gif. (Again used this because don't not want to upload new images)


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: TryNinja on June 04, 2018, 12:45:07 AM
Well I tried to use same images as in https://bitcointalk.org itself, hoping that it won't go to proxyserver e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/bbc/email.gif
But I guess it's still going through proxy server even with relative URL e.g. /Themes/custom1/images/bbc/email.gif

By the way this https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/bbc/tele.gif is telegram just an old one https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/bbc/tele.gif. (Again used this because don't not want to upload new images)
I imagined this was the reason. It still goes through the proxyserver tho (looks like every image a user posts goes through it). Right click the URL in the table above, select "Copy image URL" and you will see.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: Hhampuz on June 04, 2018, 12:53:46 AM
As there's much talk about the escrowed amount (I have a feeling some shots are coming my way). I gave the $100k estimated over the time of me managing campaigns which has been over the last 6-8months or so.

I have however done escrows for more than that, I did two Satori Group Buys, one in December last year and one in January this year. The latest one was the largest where I held, and paid for the total order, over $170,000. I did not want to add that as I didn't see it was related to my managing services. But getting unsure now what people are getting at, if trust is the main focus then I guess escrowed deals such as that one is worth mentioning?


EDIT; Great job on the thread so far and it's nice to see you are open to any and all suggestions pugman. Really appreciate the time you spend on it!


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: actmyname on June 04, 2018, 12:54:37 AM
I suggest this kind of change instead (brevity is best):

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Username
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Contact
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Past Work
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Mode of Payment
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Max # Participants
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ANN thread
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SMAS list
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Max Escrowed
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# campaigns managed
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Default Trust
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actmyname (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=465017)
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-
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BTC/Alts
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Unlimited
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https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3382226.0)
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-
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0.4 BTC
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-
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27:-0/+4
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*changed the table headings and some of the data.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: digaran on June 04, 2018, 01:11:49 AM
So you're saying the whole point of trust-system is useless? Receiving positive trust==trust farming? And receiving negative trust==abuse? Damn you're a retard.

I know that when I talk about things that you don't like I would be the retard, let me dumb it down. dealing with DT members in hopes of receiving positive trust is farming trust. since people have several alt accounts, they could also give their own accounts positive trust or better yet if they have a DT1 account, they could add their own alt accounts on DT2. leaving positive trust with no reference is equal to scamming. let me explain why. imagine a DT1-2 member has left positive trust on people with no reference, so far everything is OK, we could say that we should trust that DT1-2 member, then a DT2 member would tag somebody red just because that DT2 member is a bully and the same DT1-2 member whom we were trusting before wouldn't give a fuck about the actions of that bully DT2 member. that means DT1-2 member is no longer trusted and nobody should trust his/her positive feedbacks with no reference. why?

Because that DT1-2 member doesn't care about others and would only want us to trust his/her words. that is untrustworthy behavior and anybody acting that way should not be trusted.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: SFR10 on June 04, 2018, 05:51:46 AM
I actually think dollars would be better. I'll probably mention like, "Maximum amount of bitcoins held at one time: 100,000$ worth of BTC".
Much better but you'll be using a lot of words for the heading part (try "Max Amount Held" instead).
  • For the equivalent amount part (100,000$ worth of BTC), make sure to link its transaction ID to blockchain.info explorer (so advertisers could hover over the amount and see the exact worth at that time).
    • Not sure if there's another explorer with that functionality.
    • In case someone held certain amount across multiple transactions, just use (ex. 100,000$ worth of BTC [1, 2 and 3]).

I suggest this kind of change instead (brevity is best):

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Username
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Contact
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Past Work
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Mode of Payment
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Max # Participants
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ANN thread
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SMAS list
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Max Escrowed
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# campaigns managed
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Default Trust
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actmyname (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=465017)
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-
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BTC/Alts
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Unlimited
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https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3382226.0)
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-
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0.4 BTC
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-
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27:-0/+4
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*changed the table headings and some of the data.
I like it but if you view it by any resolution lower than 1600 x 900, it appears distorted:

  • We can combine three columns (Past Work, ANN thread and # campaigns managed) into one (ANN Thread).
    • Everyone should have their own announcement threads (mandatory).
  • There's no point in having "SMAS list" column (for the advertisers) as well.

Quote
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Username
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Contact
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Mode of Payment
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Max # Participants
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ANN thread
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Max Amount Held
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Default Trust
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actmyname (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=465017)
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BTC/Alts
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Unlimited
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https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3382226.0)
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0.4 BTC
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Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: hilariousetc on June 04, 2018, 08:54:56 AM
There should probably be a distinction between campaign managers and also escrows. Not all campaign managers are escrows nor should all of them be defacto trusted to be one. Maybe the value should be removed all together especially as people might just start using it to base who is most trustworthy or not.

This is a Bitcoin forum, not a fiat forum. If someone is being mislead by prices being given in Bitcoin, or feels mislead by it, should not call himself a bitcoin enthusiast and either educate himself so that he no longer feels mislead, or look for another hobby.

This is very silly reasoning. This is a bitcoin forum but bitcoins have a fiat value attached to them and that is incredibly relevant due to the nature of bitcoin. Fiat isn't a naughty word nobody should ever utter here. If somebody has claimed to have been trusted with 100 bitcoins at once 6 years ago or 100 bitcoins over their lifetime then those are both two very different things and values today. It would be incredibly misleading if the only figure they had to go on was a bitcoin one and to claim someone isn't a 'bitcoin enthusiast' because of that is both ridiculous and completely irrelevant. Bitcoin isn't the only crypto that is transacted in here either. Most campaigns pay in alts or crapcoin tokens so there needs to be some unanimity

Saying that paying 100 Bitcoin at any point in time isn't an accurate representation is like saying that stealing 100 in 2016 is not a smaller crime than stealing the same amount in 2017.

Again, completely irrelevant, but stealing 1 million dollars isn't the same as stealing a dollar, is it? Whoops, used fiat again.


If you hold a certain number of bitcoins, you hold a certain number of bitcoins.

Yeah, and when you held them is incredibly important because there's a fiat value attached to those coins which is very relevant. If the value of them was ten cents total at the time then that should be stipulated, and that's why the worth of them at the time is a much more important and accurate representation of the value you can be trusted with.

"You can trust me with 100 bitcoins" - 2010
"You can trust me with 100 bitcoins" - 2018

You're saying those are the same and no distinction should be made? I guess I should abandon all logic and find a new hobby, eh?


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: LoyceV on June 04, 2018, 08:59:37 AM
I like it, the layout is better when it's less wide.
I've changed one thing in your quote: I've added alt-text (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2967890.0):
Code:
[img alt=Email]
[img alt=PM]
[img alt=Telegram]
This way, if the image doesn't load, it shows a text hyperlink.

In case someone held certain amount across multiple transactions, just use (ex. 100,000$ worth of BTC [1, 2 and 3]).
If you start showing txids, you'll need a signed message to prove it was owned by the campaign manager too. Many of the campaigns I've managed for Rollin.io were off-chain. I had full access to the funds, but without a chain record.

Quote
I like it but if you view it by any resolution lower than 1600 x 900, it appears distorted:
Changing long phrases from font size 10 to 9 helps a bit.
Leave out the "#": Max # Participants > Max Participants.


dealing with DT members in hopes of receiving positive trust is farming trust.
This isn't the place for accusations, please open yet another thread in Reputation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0).


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: ICOMain.io on June 04, 2018, 10:04:22 AM
Reserved. Thank you for listing the best bounty manager. I frequently saw some of the names are mentioned in other topics and all say that they are the very good and prfofessional. Just out of my curiosity, a bounty manager can handle how many ICO one time? Cos a bounty program nomally last around 8 weeks.  :-\


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: Lauda on June 04, 2018, 10:08:41 AM
Just out of my curiosity, a bounty manager can handle how many ICO one time? Cos a bounty program nomally last around 8 weeks.  :-\
Impossible to accurately say, but each should be able to handle several at once. Anyhow, a lot of the BMs are proxies that forward their work to the cheapest bidder.  ::)


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: mdayonliner on June 04, 2018, 11:42:46 AM
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Contact
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Mode of Payment
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Default Trust
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actmyname (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=465017)
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BTC/Alts
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https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3382226.0)
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0.4 BTC
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I will vouch for this format. It's much simplified. All possible information can be scanned very quickly, for visitors - it's much more user friendly.
For details, the visitors can visit the ANN thread. You need to give them a reason to read the ANN threads too.

pugman needs to keep up with the dynamic columns. So, the less dynamic columns the table will have the better for him to update information.

Dynamic columns on the quoted one in this post-
Max Amount Held: Once the value exists the previous one the the information need to be updated.
Default Trust: It's gonna change every now and then so the OP needs to keep up with the update.


Dynamic columns in the current table (OP)-
Past Work: Needed to be updated after every campaign the finish.
No. of campaigns managed: Same like past work
Amount Escrowed: This needed to be updated even for every new campaign the user starts.
Default Trust: Already explained


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 04, 2018, 03:52:16 PM
I thought about this aswell.

Pros:
- Much cleaner and slick.
- The whole "contact" column doesn't take 2 lines anymore.

Cons:
- Icons disappearing if the image proxy goes down (like today).

Overall, I agree with these changes. Maybe change the last icon to Telegram's icon.
Thank you for your input, if someone can provide me icons for all three forms of contact that I can legitimately use, I won't mind changing them.
Overall, I agree with these changes. Maybe change the last icon to Telegram's icon.

Well I tried to use same images as in https://bitcointalk.org itself, hoping that it won't go to proxyserver e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/bbc/email.gif
But I guess it's still going through proxy server even with relative URL e.g. /Themes/custom1/images/bbc/email.gif

By the way this https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/bbc/tele.gif is telegram just an old one https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/bbc/tele.gif. (Again used this because don't not want to upload new images)
Thank you for providing help. Much appreciated. I never thought about this until you sent me a message. Seems like everybody likes the idea of it,so why not?
As there's much talk about the escrowed amount (I have a feeling some shots are coming my way). I gave the $100k estimated over the time of me managing campaigns which has been over the last 6-8months or so.

I have however done escrows for more than that, I did two Satori Group Buys, one in December last year and one in January this year. The latest one was the largest where I held, and paid for the total order, over $170,000. I did not want to add that as I didn't see it was related to my managing services. But getting unsure now what people are getting at, if trust is the main focus then I guess escrowed deals such as that one is worth mentioning?


EDIT; Great job on the thread so far and it's nice to see you are open to any and all suggestions pugman. Really appreciate the time you spend on it!
Thank you so much,Hhampuz. No one is throwing shots at you,I can assure you that  ;). People are just being subjective. Everyone I chose to be on the list is for a reason,they know how to handle their shit.

Anyhow,coming back to the max amount held discussion,I would need the managers to provide me blockchain evidence of them holding that amount at a point of time with a signed message. I am sorry for causing so much trouble but I assure you it is for the best and I am trying to do whatever I possibly can to make yourself look as a better manager to everyone else out there.
I suggest this kind of change instead (brevity is best):
<...>
*changed the table headings and some of the data.
I liked the suggestion,thank you. :D
I know that when I talk about things that you don't like I would be the retard, let me dumb it down. dealing with DT members in hopes of receiving positive trust is farming trust. since people have several alt accounts, they could also give their own accounts positive trust or better yet if they have a DT1 account, they could add their own alt accounts on DT2. leaving positive trust with no reference is equal to scamming. let me explain why. imagine a DT1-2 member has left positive trust on people with no reference, so far everything is OK, we could say that we should trust that DT1-2 member, then a DT2 member would tag somebody red just because that DT2 member is a bully and the same DT1-2 member whom we were trusting before wouldn't give a fuck about the actions of that bully DT2 member. that means DT1-2 member is no longer trusted and nobody should trust his/her positive feedbacks with no reference. why?

Because that DT1-2 member doesn't care about others and would only want us to trust his/her words. that is untrustworthy behavior and anybody acting that way should not be trusted.
That is bound to happen, unless theymos decides to go against people having alt-accounts. The trust system is not the best,and I don't know why I am discussing this here. I am retarded too. Chuck. But know this,not everyone cares about the trust and not everyone is involved in trust farming,that is big accusation to make without *any proof*. Some people are true bitcoiners,so just oblige to that and be done with it. Accusations like these would not take you anywhere,and this would really go hard on your campaign management services. I can just tell you that for now.
Much better but you'll be using a lot of words for the heading part (try "Max Amount Held" instead).
  • For the equivalent amount part (100,000$ worth of BTC), make sure to link its transaction ID to blockchain.info explorer (so advertisers could hover over the amount and see the exact worth at that time).
    • Not sure if there's another explorer with that functionality.
    • In case someone held certain amount across multiple transactions, just use (ex. 100,000$ worth of BTC [1, 2 and 3]).

I like it but if you view it by any resolution lower than 1600 x 900, it appears distorted:

  • We can combine three columns (Past Work, ANN thread and # campaigns managed) into one (ANN Thread).
    • Everyone should have their own announcement threads (mandatory).
  • There's no point in having "SMAS list" column (for the advertisers) as well.

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Thank you for the suggestion,SFR10!

There are a few issues though:

- Not every manager has an ANN thread,and some are sort of hesitant to create one(?). So until then I can't remove the 3 columns.

- Not every manager remembers the exact highest amount they held at a time because it overlapped with their other campaigns. And blockchain evidence is
kind of hard to find.

- I don't know about the SMAS list,not everyone has it and not everyone who has it,has kept it updated. For example,the DarkListô (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2817512.0) hasn't been updated in a few weeks now because ChipMixer campaign has been full for a while.

The idea can be implemented but not immediately. It'll take a while definitely for things to be put together properly.
There should probably be a distinction between campaign managers and also escrows. Not all campaign managers are escrows nor should all of them be defacto trusted to be one. Maybe the value should be removed all together especially as people might just start using it to base who is most trustworthy or not.
Yep,gonna change that column in a few hours/tomorrow. Probably :P.
I like it, the layout is better when it's less wide.
I've changed one thing in your quote: I've added alt-text (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2967890.0):
Code:
[img alt=Email]
[img alt=PM]
[img alt=Telegram]
This way, if the image doesn't load, it shows a text hyperlink.
Thanks for the suggestion. :D The combo of text/image hyperlink makes things easier when images are down.

If you start showing txids, you'll need a signed message to prove it was owned by the campaign manager too. Many of the campaigns I've managed for Rollin.io were off-chain. I had full access to the funds, but without a chain record.
I will need a signed message and only relating to signature or other campaigns. Giveaways probably wouldn't count as it is not relevant to campaign management.

This isn't the place for accusations, please open yet another thread in Reputation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0).
Its digaran,he'll talk about DT members and trust abuse/farming anywhere he possibly can.
Reserved. Thank you for listing the best bounty manager. I frequently saw some of the names are mentioned in other topics and all say that they are the very good and prfofessional. Just out of my curiosity, a bounty manager can handle how many ICO one time? Cos a bounty program nomally last around 8 weeks.  :-\
Correction: Campaign Manager. They can handle bounties,but they would prefer signature campaigns( with bitcoin payments). Usually managers handle like 1-2 campaigns at a time, some people handle 5-10 too(yahoo62278 for example).

I will vouch for this format. It's much simplified. All possible information can be scanned very quickly, for visitors - it's much more user friendly.
For details, the visitors can visit the ANN thread. You need to give them a reason to read the ANN threads too.

pugman needs to keep up with the dynamic columns. So, the less dynamic columns the table will have the better for him to update information.

Dynamic columns on the quoted one in this post-
Max Amount Held: Once the value exists the previous one the the information need to be updated.
Default Trust: It's gonna change every now and then so the OP needs to keep up with the update.


Dynamic columns in the current table (OP)-
Past Work: Needed to be updated after every campaign the finish.
No. of campaigns managed: Same like past work
Amount Escrowed: This needed to be updated even for every new campaign the user starts.
Default Trust: Already explained
I will keep updating the columns whenever I can, maybe not immediately but I'll do it.
For the ANN thread, like I said, some managers don't have it, some don't update it. Until that is taken care of, the columns are likely to stay. Thanks for the suggestion. Much appreciated.
Thank you everyone for putting in your input. I'll see what I can do, will send another set of PMs again to the managers. And I'll update the OP, once I get all the relevant information.

Lutpin hasn't responded to any of my PMs yet, so if any one can reach out to him, it'd be much appreciated and would really be helpful.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: Woshib on June 04, 2018, 05:08:12 PM
Great work pugman! will you include something like a "websites" column? or will it stay in "contact"?


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: LoyceV on June 04, 2018, 06:05:21 PM
Anyhow,coming back to the max amount held discussion,I would need the managers to provide me blockchain evidence of them holding that amount at a point of time with a signed message.
Done (https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=1PhKpF3GEGwJ9bxQ7eNcFDGumcmEW5md9X&vrMsg=Howdy%20%3AD%20This%20is%20LoyceV%20verifying%20(on%20June%204%2C%202018)%20that%20I%20held%20funds%20for%20https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D2432864.0%20last%20year%20(starting%20on%20November%2020%2C%202017).%20Total%20funds%3A%200.041%20BTC%20%2B%200.24418%20BTC%20(total%200.28518%20BTC)%2C%20back%20then%20worth%20%24329.51%20%2B%20%242012.89%20(total%20%242342.40).&vrSig=HxoE9fNfQjYRSws9T%2F%2F7CQZfGwxkLJBdzxkhdK5r7vu6f145VltjdZPcbhNkBEaycuw%2FYeAMTKzRKr8h%2FMk%2B%2B6A%3D). To verify: the address is posted in the campaign thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2432864.0), last edit December 6, 2017 (Search for "Funds for the first week").
Although unlikely: if the campaign ever continues, I'll edit that post again.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: DarkStar_ on June 04, 2018, 10:34:28 PM
Anyhow,coming back to the max amount held discussion,I would need the managers to provide me blockchain evidence of them holding that amount at a point of time with a signed message. I am sorry for causing so much trouble but I assure you it is for the best and I am trying to do whatever I possibly can to make yourself look as a better manager to everyone else out there.

3.831 BTC held in the ChipMixer campaign escrow address (https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty) from Jan 3 to Jan 6 2018.

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
6/4/2018 | This address is under the control of DarkStar_ (u=507936)
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty
G3yhe7uEbtQidQXvQ0nRSe0o8hPjAXUoYm96MYUx+WIieKMxJQ4TKvDxB6Yac9r4AXoTO09r4rfgLIh0NqVqY8s=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE--

BTC reached 17600$ on Jan 5, according to CoinMarketCap (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/). Equal to ~67000$ USD


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: Hhampuz on June 04, 2018, 10:42:59 PM
Is this really necessary? To be honest I don't see why it matters how much has been held for a campaign at one single point. If people have done escrows and other business here on the forum where they held a bunch of money it should be equally valuable, or?

Either way I'd have to sign an address from an altcoin as that is the campaign I've "escrowed" the most for.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: yahoo62278 on June 05, 2018, 03:40:44 AM
Is this really necessary? To be honest I don't see why it matters how much has been held for a campaign at one single point. If people have done escrows and other business here on the forum where they held a bunch of money it should be equally valuable, or?

Either way I'd have to sign an address from an altcoin as that is the campaign I've "escrowed" the most for.

I agree, this is not really necessary. Most of us on the list have held 1-10 bitcoins for campaigns while the price was 2000-20000$. 1 of the guys is the forum treasurer. A few on the list are very active in collectibles and have done multiple thousands of dollars in trades.

I would trust 10/15 on the list with 5+ bitcoin without batting an eyelash. Maybe the criteria for being on the list should be stipulated around that? I don't know the correct format that should be used but this list was comprised from 1 persons opinion. If it's gonna be used as an official forum list for advertisers, then maybe there should be a poll or something to vote users in? Just tossing out ideas.

Overall I think the list is great, just needs some tweaks.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 05, 2018, 02:05:32 PM
Great work pugman! will you include something like a "websites" column? or will it stay in "contact"?
Thank you Woshib! I won't include another column just for websites, because the list becomes more wider and messier, so it'll stay in the "contact" column.
Done (https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=1PhKpF3GEGwJ9bxQ7eNcFDGumcmEW5md9X&vrMsg=Howdy%20%3AD%20This%20is%20LoyceV%20verifying%20(on%20June%204%2C%202018)%20that%20I%20held%20funds%20for%20https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D2432864.0%20last%20year%20(starting%20on%20November%2020%2C%202017).%20Total%20funds%3A%200.041%20BTC%20%2B%200.24418%20BTC%20(total%200.28518%20BTC)%2C%20back%20then%20worth%20%24329.51%20%2B%20%242012.89%20(total%20%242342.40).&vrSig=HxoE9fNfQjYRSws9T%2F%2F7CQZfGwxkLJBdzxkhdK5r7vu6f145VltjdZPcbhNkBEaycuw%2FYeAMTKzRKr8h%2FMk%2B%2B6A%3D). To verify: the address is posted in the campaign thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2432864.0), last edit December 6, 2017 (Search for "Funds for the first week").
Although unlikely: if the campaign ever continues, I'll edit that post again.
Thanks Loyce V. Verified! ;)


3.831 BTC held in the ChipMixer campaign escrow address (https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty) from Jan 3 to Jan 6 2018.

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
6/4/2018 | This address is under the control of DarkStar_ (u=507936)
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty
G3yhe7uEbtQidQXvQ0nRSe0o8hPjAXUoYm96MYUx+WIieKMxJQ4TKvDxB6Yac9r4AXoTO09r4rfgLIh0NqVqY8s=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE--

BTC reached 17600$ on Jan 5, according to CoinMarketCap (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/). Equal to ~67000$ USD
Bitcoin's price started with 15,477 and ended with 17,705 on Jan 5 ,as per coinmarketcap (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/historical-data/?start=20180105&end=20180106).
And message verified (https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=12LTroZ9sWWL3gQLhtB8aNjignRA4oi5x6&vrMsg=Today%20is%2004.june.2018%20bitcointalk%20account%20fina13%20(u%3D1184049)%20belongs%20to%20this%20address&vrSig=H1NgQCv5xt8jSgbAY%2BuxkS92irlVDsFwUKPAcHoXv7QBdrfZL2ySjpKgHI8d4xi8gdpQkL39g2FVF3N8CSjYHOc%3D)!
Is this really necessary? To be honest I don't see why it matters how much has been held for a campaign at one single point. If people have done escrows and other business here on the forum where they held a bunch of money it should be equally valuable, or?

Either way I'd have to sign an address from an altcoin as that is the campaign I've "escrowed" the most for.
Its not escrow anymore, and I haven't updated the OP. I'll wait for all managers to sign messages and update it all together. Its just max amount held at a time. Your points are valid and fair. I just thought it would make much sense to keep amount held only for campaigns, other amounts, but I hear you, so if you have held more amount than what you have held for your campaigns and if you can sign a message for that, I'd be sure to link it.
I would trust 10/15 on the list with 5+ bitcoin without batting an eyelash. Maybe the criteria for being on the list should be stipulated around that? I don't know the correct format that should be used but this list was comprised from 1 persons opinion. If it's gonna be used as an official forum list for advertisers, then maybe there should be a poll or something to vote users in? Just tossing out ideas.

Overall I think the list is great, just needs some tweaks.
I legitimately thought of running a poll while the time of writing this thread, there were a few reasons why I chose not to:

- This thread was required urgently(?).

- The list included 21 people, I shortlisted it to 15,because a few weren't managing campaigns anymore and a few weren't responding. And these were the people who I have seen around managing *fairly*. No,I didn't include Sylon,if you are wondering.

- Creating a poll, adding more than 30 managers would make this list a mess. Refer here for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2727673.0
These people are only managing signature campaigns. Bounty managers, like Sylon aren't even included. If any manager has been account farming, then the results of the poll would be much more worse.

- I personally wanted the list to be based on the community's opinion. And I want to hear people's thoughts on this matter. After all,we are all a big fan of decentralization. :D
Edit: I forgot to mention, I messaged theymos about the AD space and I am allowed to do it.  ;D


Title: Re: List of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: shahzadafzal on June 05, 2018, 02:38:10 PM
Edit: I forgot to mention, I messaged theymos about the AD space and I am allowed to do it.  ;D
Wow congratulations I guess he's impressed with your hard work.

May be campaign managers can also use this space to highlight their own portfolios to attract advertisers?

Anyway let's hope and pray it serves the purpose.

Suggestion: If community agrees, can we change the subject "Overview" to "List" --> List of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers (Google will love it too)



Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: loughlin on June 06, 2018, 05:00:52 PM
Good start, but I think there have few guys with just one or two campaign. I do not comment on their work but managing one campaign can not qualify someone as a manager. especially today when it opens 10+ campaigns daily.
Also, there are an only "green" managers, somebody would think there was no problem with bad campaign management even if there has never been more spam.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 07, 2018, 10:27:23 PM
Good start, but I think there have few guys with just one or two campaign. I do not comment on their work but managing one campaign can not qualify someone as a manager. especially today when it opens 10+ campaigns daily.
Also, there are an only "green" managers, somebody would think there was no problem with bad campaign management even if there has never been more spam.
Experience is not the only thing that counts. Anyone can be a manager by that. There are other factors that may or may not  qualify a manager to be on this list.
Suggestion: If community agrees, can we change the subject "Overview" to "List" --> List of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers (Google will love it too)
The reason I chose not to just call it a list is because then I would have to add all the campaign managers, I chose overview because this thread tells a lot about the managers and what they have done till now. ;)
A few things:

- Does the community want me to run a poll for managers? If  yes,any specific person who is not currently on the list but has the potential so that I could link it down on a poll?

- For those managers who don't have an ANN thread, please do create one. The competition is tough out there and your ANN thread might get help you a lot.

- Any suggestions for me to add in the table? Related to managers or anything in general?


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: DarkStar_ on June 07, 2018, 11:00:30 PM
- Any suggestions for me to add in the table? Related to managers or anything in general?

Perhaps the type of campaigns they're willing to deal with? Not sure about others but personally I have zero plans to manage any Bounties.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: Hhampuz on June 07, 2018, 11:21:28 PM
- Any suggestions for me to add in the table? Related to managers or anything in general?

Perhaps the type of campaigns they're willing to deal with? Not sure about others but personally I have zero plans to manage any Bounties.

Ditto.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 07, 2018, 11:22:56 PM
I did keep the other campaigns column, I only took it down because it made the table wider and messier. Will do something about that. Thanks for your suggestion,guys.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: loughlin on June 08, 2018, 09:04:05 AM


- Any suggestions for me to add in the table? Related to managers or anything in general?


I think you should consider adding Sylon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112240) manager to your list.
He manages a lot of campaigns, if you check his post history, you can see he everything works very up-to-date and answering all question to his participants.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: LTU_btc on June 08, 2018, 09:38:28 AM
I think you should consider adding Sylon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112240) manager to your list.
He manages a lot of campaigns, if you check his post history, you can see he everything works very up-to-date and answering all question to his participants.
Lol, seriously? He is probably one of the worst bounty managers on Bitcointalk. He even received negative trust because he accepts many spammers into his campaigns. Do you really think that Sylon deserves to be among best signature campaign managers?


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: SFR10 on June 08, 2018, 10:34:06 AM
- Does the community want me to run a poll for managers?
I don't think that's needed (prone to abuse).

- Any suggestions for me to add in the table? Related to managers or anything in general?
  • Time zone
  • Availability (days)
    • Useful for advertisers but then again, it makes everything wider.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: LoyceV on June 08, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
- Does the community want me to run a poll for managers? If  yes,any specific person who is not currently on the list but has the potential so that I could link it down on a poll?
A poll won't work, as any Newbie can vote. A public discussion on the other hand could work.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: loughlin on June 08, 2018, 11:24:37 AM
I think you should consider adding Sylon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112240) manager to your list.
He manages a lot of campaigns, if you check his post history, you can see he everything works very up-to-date and answering all question to his participants.
Lol, seriously? He is probably one of the worst bounty managers on Bitcointalk. He even received negative trust because he accepts many scammers into his campaigns. Do you really think that Sylon deserves to be among best signature campaign managers?

Idk, I just find that he serious manage his threads. I mean if you ask him something, or you want to change address he will do it and give you an answer.
If you check almost any of bounty thread you can find an only mess and if you have any doubts, you will not get an answer.
Manager - means the person who controls all happenings within the project.

- Does the community want me to run a poll for managers? If  yes,any specific person who is not currently on the list but has the potential so that I could link it down on a poll?
A poll won't work, as any Newbie can vote. A public discussion on the other hand could work.

Newbie can't vote.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 08, 2018, 08:25:13 PM
I think you should consider adding Sylon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112240) manager to your list.
He manages a lot of campaigns, if you check his post history, you can see he everything works very up-to-date and answering all question to his participants.
lol. Hilariousandco, where are you? Please do the honors explaining why he won't make the list.
I think you should consider adding Sylon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112240) manager to your list.
He manages a lot of campaigns, if you check his post history, you can see he everything works very up-to-date and answering all question to his participants.
Lol, seriously? He is probably one of the worst bounty managers on Bitcointalk. He even received negative trust because he accepts many scammers into his campaigns. Do you really think that Sylon deserves to be among best bounty managers?
FTFY. ;)
- Does the community want me to run a poll for managers?
I don't think that's needed (prone to abuse).

- Any suggestions for me to add in the table? Related to managers or anything in general?
  • Time zone
  • Availability (days)
    • Useful for advertisers but then again, it makes everything wider.
The ideas are nice, but I honestly don'y know if people care about time zone? People(the company) don't even bother checking the post quality or check if the campaign manager is doing his damn job. Time zone and availability is of no use for companies(in most cases).
- Does the community want me to run a poll for managers? If  yes,any specific person who is not currently on the list but has the potential so that I could link it down on a poll?
A poll won't work, as any Newbie can vote. A public discussion on the other hand could work.
If by any chance I am running a poll,I would want the minimum requirements like, being a Full Member at least, vote 5 managers of their choice and all, but a poll won't really get much attention unless it is abused by one person...
Idk, I just find that he serious manage his threads. I mean if you ask him something, or you want to change address he will do it and give you an answer.
If you check almost any of bounty thread you can find an only mess and if you have any doubts, you will not get an answer.
Manager - means the person who controls all happenings within the project.
That's what campaign managers should do and that's what they are hired for. Its funny how Sylon checks all this but doesn't the main thing he his supposed to do: Check if participants are spamming or not.

Newbie can't vote.
Are you sure?


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: hilariousetc on June 08, 2018, 08:29:10 PM
The list doesn't need to include every facet of the services you may or may not provide. Things like timezones etc can go in your own threads with further details etc.

I think you should consider adding Sylon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112240) manager to your list.
He manages a lot of campaigns, if you check his post history, you can see he everything works very up-to-date and answering all question to his participants.
Lol, seriously? He is probably one of the worst bounty managers on Bitcointalk. He even received negative trust because he accepts many scammers into his campaigns. Do you really think that Sylon deserves to be among best signature campaign managers?

Was just going to say the same thing. This is an anti-spam list and Sylon is one of the worst managers on the forum for spam in my opinion. Sylon accepts and pays for anyone as long as you make the minimum amount of spam. The amount of farmers and copy and pasters on his campaigns is ridiculous and multiple users are banned every day from campaigns he's running so staff end up doing his job for him which is incredibly annoying. There's also the infamous list of 200 Russian farmers that he was paying the majority of which alone should disqualify him from this list. Maybe when he starts doing his job properly he could be reconsidered, but at the moment he seems content with just collecting a paycheck for posting bounty Ann threads and paying the shitposters that hit the minimum quota.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: loughlin on June 08, 2018, 08:49:54 PM

Idk, I just find that he serious manage his threads. I mean if you ask him something, or you want to change address he will do it and give you an answer.
If you check almost any of bounty thread you can find an only mess and if you have any doubts, you will not get an answer.
Manager - means the person who controls all happenings within the project.
That's what campaign managers should do and that's what they are hired for. Its funny how Sylon checks all this but doesn't the main thing he his supposed to do: Check if participants are spamming or not.

Okay, my bad. I did not check posts of his participants. I never even participated in his signature campaigns, only few Twitter campaigns. I'm just putting out what I noticed. He controls his bounty threads.



A few months ago, we create a poll where we asking to get the local board on the forum, and I know many Newbies have complained that they can not vote.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 15, 2018, 12:27:15 PM
The list doesn't need to include every facet of the services you may or may not provide. Things like timezones etc can go in your own threads with further details etc.
It would be great but not every manager is willing to have their own ANN thread for God knows why reasons.
Was just going to say the same thing. This is an anti-spam list and Sylon is one of the worst managers on the forum for spam in my opinion. Sylon accepts and pays for anyone as long as you make the minimum amount of spam. The amount of farmers and copy and pasters on his campaigns is ridiculous and multiple users are banned every day from campaigns he's running so staff end up doing his job for him which is incredibly annoying. There's also the infamous list of 200 Russian farmers that he was paying the majority of which alone should disqualify him from this list. Maybe when he starts doing his job properly he could be reconsidered, but at the moment he seems content with just collecting a paycheck for posting bounty Ann threads and paying the shitposters that hit the minimum quota.
Now that the point about sylon is cleared, I have mixed opinions on a few managers, what do you all think:
Julerz12, legendster, goinmerry.

I contacted aventhe, decoded, edwardard and they didn't reply any info so they aren't on the list.

Blockfolio and wapinter would no longer be on the waiting list due to obvious reasons.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: max2607 on June 17, 2018, 01:10:16 AM
The list doesn't need to include every facet of the services you may or may not provide. Things like timezones etc can go in your own threads with further details etc.
It would be great but not every manager is willing to have their own ANN thread for God knows why reasons.
Was just going to say the same thing. This is an anti-spam list and Sylon is one of the worst managers on the forum for spam in my opinion. Sylon accepts and pays for anyone as long as you make the minimum amount of spam. The amount of farmers and copy and pasters on his campaigns is ridiculous and multiple users are banned every day from campaigns he's running so staff end up doing his job for him which is incredibly annoying. There's also the infamous list of 200 Russian farmers that he was paying the majority of which alone should disqualify him from this list. Maybe when he starts doing his job properly he could be reconsidered, but at the moment he seems content with just collecting a paycheck for posting bounty Ann threads and paying the shitposters that hit the minimum quota.
Now that the point about sylon is cleared, I have mixed opinions on a few managers, what do you all think:
Julerz12, legendster, goinmerry.

I contacted aventhe, decoded, edwardard and they didn't reply any info so they aren't on the list.

Blockfolio and wapinter would no longer be on the waiting list due to obvious reasons.
I'm not sure about legendster and julerz12 but speaking of gionmerry he doesn't really deserve to be on this list. Don't want to be rude but I actually did a lit bit of research on few of the campaigns managed by him but targetted one campaign particularly.

Campaign link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3367664.msg35280159#msg35280159

Description: If you see the spreadsheet he has accepted many users who just spamming and regardless of their posts they still continue to receive stakes for the week.
Example :
User 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=587721;sa=showPosts
User 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=500899;sa=showPosts

Based on this he doesn't qualify to make it to the list as he does support spam from the above proof.
But again this isn't my thread the ultimate decision is on you

If you want I can do research on other two managers as well, just let me know if it's needed ;D,


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 21, 2018, 03:32:50 PM
I'm not sure about legendster and julerz12 but speaking of gionmerry he doesn't really deserve to be on this list. Don't want to be rude but I actually did a lit bit of research on few of the campaigns managed by him but targetted one campaign particularly.

Campaign link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3367664.msg35280159#msg35280159

Description: If you see the spreadsheet he has accepted many users who just spamming and regardless of their posts they still continue to receive stakes for the week.
Example :
User 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=587721;sa=showPosts
User 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=500899;sa=showPosts

Based on this he doesn't qualify to make it to the list as he does support spam from the above proof.
But again this isn't my thread the ultimate decision is on you

If you want I can do research on other two managers as well, just let me know if it's needed ;D,
Which is why I am having mixed feelings. I am not going to add these users in the near future, because they lack experience or have had bad experiences.
I'll be sending a PM to the campaign managers asking for a signed message, had a busy couple of weeks, so do pardon me for that.
I'll also be updating the OP, with few details to change.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 26, 2018, 02:46:25 PM
Removed the amount escrowed column until the managers send me a signed message for verification purposes. And with the related proof, obviously.

Come on people, hire these managers to handle your signature campaigns. I am sure they would work out for the best keeping everybody in picture.
Advertisement space (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4412712.0#post_Advertisement) is for rent. PM me (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=325061) and start negotiating :) Do note that I won't advertise scams.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: orions.belt19 on June 26, 2018, 04:28:54 PM
What about Joel_Jatsen? Iím not sure if he still actively manages signature campaigns up to this day but I once participated in a campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2177290.0) managed by him. He strongly advocates his policy for zero tolerance towards spamming. In one of his campaign rules, he has stated that he wonít count the posts that has redundantly repeated what has been said by the previous 100 replies so he really makes it a point that the participants do not spam. Also, I did not encounter any problems throughout the duration of the campaign and all payments were promptly made.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 26, 2018, 11:05:17 PM
What about Joel_Jatsen? Iím not sure if he still actively manages signature campaigns up to this day but I once participated in a campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2177290.0) managed by him. He strongly advocates his policy for zero tolerance towards spamming. In one of his campaign rules, he has stated that he wonít count the posts that has redundantly repeated what has been said by the previous 100 replies so he really makes it a point that the participants do not spam. Also, I did not encounter any problems throughout the duration of the campaign and all payments were promptly made.
Hmm...  I think he is a good manager, I saw the campaign and the spreadsheet, looks decent enough for me. I would have to think about it, and I will mostly add him, unless someone convinces me to do otherwise with strong proof. I would also have to check if he is still into campaign management.  :)


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: actmyname on June 26, 2018, 11:13:00 PM
Might I suggest that instead of having the "ANN" column be either Here or N/A, you could have it replaced with full-block characters? (██)
Here's a sample:



|
Manager
|
Contact
|
Past Work
|
Payment
|
Max. participants
|
ANN
|
SMAS list
|
Campaigns managed
|
Default Trust
|
|
actmyname (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=465017)
|
EMAIL (actmyname@gmail.com), PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=465017),
TELEGRAM (http://t.me/actmyname)
|
N/A
|
Bitcoin and Altcoins
|
Unlimited
|
██ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3382226.0)
|
The Shitlist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4440941.0)
|
N/A
|
30:-0/+5
|
|
BoXXoB (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=407841)
|
EMAIL (boxxobcampaigns@gmail.com), PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=407841),
TELEGRAM (https://t.me/BoXXoB)
|
BitDice Signature Campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1697546.0), BitDice Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046450.0)
|
Bitcoin and Altcoins
|
20-30
|
██ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2603353.msg26491703#msg26491703)
|
N/A
|
2
|
20:-0/+2
|

*color optional.
If not, then perhaps bolding "Here" and/or making it all-caps can have it stand out more.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 26, 2018, 11:19:34 PM
Might I suggest that instead of having the "ANN" column be either Here or N/A, you could have it replaced with full-block characters? (██)
*color optional.
If not, then perhaps bolding "Here" and/or making it all-caps can have it stand out more.
I think what user shahzadafzal suggested(via PM) would make a better look, I am talking about this:
Quote
|
Username
|
Contact
|
Mode of Payment
|
Max # Participants
|
ANN thread
|
Max Amount Held
|
Default Trust
|
|
actmyname (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=465017)
||
BTC/Alts
|
Unlimited
|
https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3382226.0)
|
0.4 BTC
|
27:-0/+4
|
I would just replace the telegram logo with the official one. But I am here for opinions. Which one is better? :)

   


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on June 27, 2018, 01:48:15 PM
What about Joel_Jatsen? Iím not sure if he still actively manages signature campaigns up to this day but I once participated in a campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2177290.0) managed by him. He strongly advocates his policy for zero tolerance towards spamming. In one of his campaign rules, he has stated that he wonít count the posts that has redundantly repeated what has been said by the previous 100 replies so he really makes it a point that the participants do not spam. Also, I did not encounter any problems throughout the duration of the campaign and all payments were promptly made.
Hmm...  I think he is a good manager, I saw the campaign and the spreadsheet, looks decent enough for me. I would have to think about it, and I will mostly add him, unless someone convinces me to do otherwise with strong proof. I would also have to check if he is still into campaign management.  :)
Thanks for the heads up! Yes I have managed campaigns in the past and have hold reasonable amount of money as escrow for the campaigns. However, I'm too busy these days to do campaign management stuff so I wouldn't like to be added on the list just yet.Anyway, thanks for your words of support.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 27, 2018, 02:36:16 PM
Thanks for the heads up! Yes I have managed campaigns in the past and have hold reasonable amount of money as escrow for the campaigns. However, I'm too busy these days to do campaign management stuff so I wouldn't like to be added on the list just yet.Anyway, thanks for your words of support.
Oh, it is alright. Lemme know when you pop back into campaign management.

So I added the images to the OP, and here is how it looks:

https://i.imgur.com/FlB3XGv.png

Should I go for it?
Campaign managers, those who don't have an ANN thread, please do create one. It is for your own benefit. :)


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: mdayonliner on June 27, 2018, 02:37:52 PM
May be you need a png image for telegram icon.
How about this: https://i.imgur.com/EPR3Ptv.png
https://i.imgur.com/EPR3Ptv.png https://i.imgur.com/EPR3Ptv.png

Resize tips are here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4519248.msg40997114#msg40997114


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: bL4nkcode on June 27, 2018, 08:08:35 PM
[Image SNIP]

Should I go for it?
I guess adding the word "Signature campaign" in the Past work  column is not necessary, it will only make the whole table wider once added and also since this thread is only for Signature campaign so its understandable. What do you think?


Using with a transparent background for telegram icon will work. And also an envelope icon is much better for the email link in the contact column instead of the first one.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 27, 2018, 09:52:29 PM
I wanted that image, thanks. ;D
Here is how it looks:
https://i.imgur.com/wVyOJ8v.png

Am I the only one who finds the telegram logo too bright?
I guess adding the word "Signature campaign" in the Past work  column is not necessary, it will only make the whole table wider once added and also since this thread is only for Signature campaign so its understandable. What do you think?
I will remove it.  :)


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: mdayonliner on June 27, 2018, 11:16:49 PM
Am I the only one who finds the telegram logo too bright?
It is. Try with this
https://i.imgur.com/UeJS92e.png https://i.imgur.com/UeJS92e.png

For email:
https://i.imgur.com/qFAQhom.png https://i.imgur.com/qFAQhom.png

For PM:
https://i.imgur.com/rV0sWYd.png https://i.imgur.com/rV0sWYd.png
It's a totally new one although.

Web:
https://i.imgur.com/7K3r8hU.png https://i.imgur.com/7K3r8hU.png

Anyway the idea is to have all the icons black.


Also, like bL4nkcode said: We do not need the past work column. It makes the whole table annoying. All these details should be in the ANN thread and if a campaign manager does not have a ANN then they may possibly lose potential customer. It's their fault however, a customer always can contact using the contact details though. By the way, no offence to those who do not have an ANN  :) . It's a friendly feedback only. I am sure pugman has better things in mind if not the same.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: actmyname on June 27, 2018, 11:29:48 PM
Anyway the idea is to have all the icons black.
Hm... I figured it would be better to use the ones available on SMF as a default:

https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/email_sm.gif
https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/im_off.gif or https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/im_on.gif
https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/www_sm.gif


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: mdayonliner on June 27, 2018, 11:32:28 PM
Hm... I figured it would be better to use the ones available on SMF as a default:
The defaults look completely ok but problem seems the Telegram one. So, I had that thought.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: actmyname on June 27, 2018, 11:51:42 PM
Hm... I figured it would be better to use the ones available on SMF as a default:
The defaults look completely ok but problem seems the Telegram one. So, I had that thought.


https://i.imgur.com/zMm3YZg.png
This one's less straining.

Comparison: (Old/New)

https://i.imgur.com/EPR3Ptv.png https://i.imgur.com/zMm3YZg.png
Plus, it actually looks like the Telegram logo I have.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: Tatzky on June 28, 2018, 01:51:05 PM
There's a lot of legendary campaign manager that has good review these past few months and now they have red mark all over due to an unsuccessful project, they should at least be strict on the next project they will take and explain things carefully to those bounty hunters who do not receive awards from certain projects.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: bL4nkcode on June 28, 2018, 06:02:36 PM
There's a lot of legendary campaign manager that has good review these past few months and now they have red mark all over due to an unsuccessful project, they should at least be strict on the next project they will take and explain things carefully to those bounty hunters who do not receive awards from certain projects.
So what are you trying to say here? this list is only to those campaign manager that has managed in BTC paying campaign and not just random bounty manager that you can see on Bounties (Altcoins) Board.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: loughlin on June 28, 2018, 09:40:37 PM
There's a lot of legendary campaign manager that has good review these past few months and now they have red mark all over due to an unsuccessful project, they should at least be strict on the next project they will take and explain things carefully to those bounty hunters who do not receive awards from certain projects.
So what are you trying to say here? this list is only to those campaign manager that has managed in BTC paying campaign and not just random bounty manager that you can see on Bounties (Altcoins) Board.


there is too much attention is paid to the appearance of how it looks OP post. I'd like to see here some constructive criticism about campaign managers work. it is not possible that all they are doing their job perfectly even if we have a lot of spam on the forum.
It takes more constructive criticism, especially from high-ranking members.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 28, 2018, 09:48:26 PM
I am happy to announce that, the advertisement spot has been officially rented till 31st of July by irfan_pak10   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=350580):) If anyone wants to rent the space for the month of August shoot me a pm  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=325061)with your offer.

Also, like bL4nkcode said: We do not need the past work column. It makes the whole table annoying. All these details should be in the ANN thread and if a campaign manager does not have a ANN then they may possibly lose potential customer. It's their fault however, a customer always can contact using the contact details though. By the way, no offence to those who do not have an ANN  :) . It's a friendly feedback only. I am sure pugman has better things in mind if not the same.
I am still giving them time to create one, a few have told that they will be creating one in the near future, so I will wait for them.
I like these more, thanks, I'll be using it.
Looks cool, will add it soon.
There's a lot of legendary campaign manager that has good review these past few months and now they have red mark all over due to an unsuccessful project, they should at least be strict on the next project they will take and explain things carefully to those bounty hunters who do not receive awards from certain projects.
Rank doesn't define whether a manager is good or bad. I am assuming you're talking about Wapinter/ aTriz/ Hua_hui or someother manager who screwed up?
there is too much attention is paid to the appearance of how it looks OP post. I'd like to see here some constructive criticism about campaign managers work. it is not possible that all they are doing their job perfectly even if we have a lot of spam on the forum.
It takes more constructive criticism, especially from high-ranking members.
This thread is NOT about having constructive criticism but to help the managers. I would love to hear criticisms about it, but in another thread. Right now, the only criticism I want to hear is, how the thread is portrayed, and whether or not few managers have to be added.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: loughlin on June 28, 2018, 10:07:22 PM
This thread is NOT about having constructive criticism but to help the managers. I would love to hear criticisms about it, but in another thread. Right now, the only criticism I want to hear is, how the thread is portrayed, and whether or not few managers have to be added.

Okay, my bad.
really expect positive public criticism of the manager's work. Some of them are very unprofessional to behave and act like they are untouchable.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 28, 2018, 11:58:55 PM
Okay, my bad.
really expect positive public criticism of the manager's work. Some of them are very unprofessional to behave and act like they are untouchable.
If you think that there are managers who have such done behavior, that are in the list, feel free to PM me about it with rock solid proof, if I see anyone having such behavior, I'll most likely remove them, but it depends on the case.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: Hhampuz on June 29, 2018, 12:10:21 AM
I have one Question: "Past Work", should this not be "Current" or something rather than Past? As the ones listed for me are campaigns I am currently managing. Not that big of a deal but I do like correct wording  :D


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 29, 2018, 12:29:24 AM
I have one Question: "Past Work", should this not be "Current" or something rather than Past? As the ones listed for me are campaigns I am currently managing. Not that big of a deal but I do like correct wording  :D
Yes, I realize that. I'll change it. I believe both the campaigns(Fortune Jack and Bitcore) are current campaigns? So should I remove both?
Managers, a friendly reminder, please create an ANN thread and give a brief explanation about yourself. It would help you and me, so that the table could be properly aligned. :)


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: Hhampuz on June 29, 2018, 12:47:14 AM
I have one Question: "Past Work", should this not be "Current" or something rather than Past? As the ones listed for me are campaigns I am currently managing. Not that big of a deal but I do like correct wording  :D
Yes, I realize that. I'll change it. I believe both the campaigns(Fortune Jack and Bitcore) are current campaigns? So should I remove both?
Managers, a friendly reminder, please create an ANN thread and give a brief explanation about yourself. It would help you and me, so that the table could be properly aligned. :)

Yeah I currently run four campaigns, FortuneJack and Bitcore included.

I've started work on my ANN thread and it'll be ready soonTM.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: LbtalkL on June 29, 2018, 02:11:57 PM
Good thread thanks for your effort you really spend some time in creating this  thread with brief history of bounty managers well done.
Did you rank this managers or it is in random order?


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on June 29, 2018, 02:35:11 PM
Yeah I currently run four campaigns, FortuneJack and Bitcore included.

I've started work on my ANN thread and it'll be ready soonTM.
Great. Shoot me a PM once it's up and running.
Good thread thanks for your effort you really spend some time in creating this  thread with brief history of bounty managers well done.
Did you rank this managers or it is in random order?
The managers are listed alphabetically name wise.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: Manhenro on July 14, 2018, 11:12:37 PM
OP, I must commend you for your efforts in complying this list, but I think this guy btcltcdigger (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22830) also deserves to be in the list. He is a crusader when it comes to fighting  against spam in all his campaigns in this forum.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on July 14, 2018, 11:27:56 PM
OP, I must commend you for your efforts in complying this list, but I think this guy btcltcdigger (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22830) also deserves to be in the list. He is a crusader when it comes to fighting  against spam in all his campaigns in this forum.
Thanks but wrong profile link?


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on July 20, 2018, 09:57:06 PM
To avoid conflict of interest and to serve the purpose of this thread, I'll be temporarily removing actmyname  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=465017)from the list, for breaking forum rules. I will add him,once it seems fit,or someone is able to convince me otherwise(highly unlikely).

Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4666612.msg42112935#msg42112935


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: Hhampuz on July 26, 2018, 12:30:23 PM
Out of curiosity, has anyone on this list received any work, thanks to this list?

I saw Theymos mentioning that he got spammed by people looking to advertise through signature campaigns but so far I've not seen a single campaign being launched through this.

Not a stab at the list, just wondering how much effort I should put into my ANN thread (it's coming very soon) :D.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on July 26, 2018, 10:17:42 PM
Out of curiosity, has anyone on this list received any work, thanks to this list?

I saw Theymos mentioning that he got spammed by people looking to advertise through signature campaigns but so far I've not seen a single campaign being launched through this.
Let's see:

Since the list was up;

- Lauda has started managing 4 bounties.

- Loyce V has started managing 1 Signature campaign.

- notaek managed 2 signature campaigns.

- Woshib has started managing 2 bounties.

- yahoo62278 managed/is managing 4 signature campaigns(one of which was proven to be a scam later on) and a bounty.


I cannot fully determine how many people contacted these managers because of this list. Signature campaigns have become dry again, so I cannot tell what the problem here is. If someone has any suggestions to improve to this thread, please don't feel shy to tell.

I didn't add images in the OP,because they look really sloppy,even after modifications. Though the idea is good, it doesn't look good.
 
Not a stab at the list, just wondering how much effort I should put into my ANN thread (it's coming very soon) :D.
Your ANN thread should be pretty freaking awesome, if you ask me. If anybody is making an ANN thread , make it look cool even if this forum isn't very artistic in nature. Don't base your ANN thread because of the list, do it because you like managing campaigns.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on August 09, 2018, 09:46:45 PM
Bump!
Managers, another reminder: Please create an ANN thread if you haven't already, and for those who still haven't PM'ed me your signed message, do send it too via PM. I can only update once all managers co-operate.
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Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: ryap12 on August 12, 2018, 01:40:59 PM
Wow! This is really helpful to check out with. We will be able to see their reputations and who is the best bounty manager where we can invest our time for bounty hunting. The next time I join bounties, I'll make sure its them who handles this.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on August 12, 2018, 02:00:03 PM
We will be able to see their reputations and who is the best bounty manager where we can invest our time for bounty hunting.
Oh god, what have I done :-[ . theymos,this one is on you.  :P Good luck, managers, I am sorry in advance.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: okocrypto on August 15, 2018, 07:54:21 PM
Yahoo6227 should be a great manager. .. This is evident in the value of trust he has built over the years. The manager of a bounty play a big role in the project, this why am very selective when chosing projects.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: _Worbli on August 17, 2018, 10:28:33 AM
Hello there everyone,

I am no expert using bitcointalk. I've only used to for research. Now that I am trying to raise awareness for a project I am a part of, I found that bitcointalk is not as easy as I thought. It's just...different. I've struggled with a few things already just because I am not familiar with the platform as much as most  of you are.

What services are offered here exactly? I work at a start up and am as cliche as it sounds, I really believe in our project and we just need to gain a bit more traction. We're attacking several social media networks, but I wanted to take it up upon myself to learn from this platform with the guidance of others-with the help of others.

I don't believe I need to get into specifics about what we do. All I need to know at this point is what can the bitcoin community do to help us reach a wider audience? That is, the audience on this forum.

Please feel free to send me a DM with what you are capable of doing and how you charge about your services.

Thank you and I hope to hear from you soon.

-WORBLI


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on August 17, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Hello there everyone,

I am no expert using bitcointalk. I've only used to for research. Now that I am trying to raise awareness for a project I am a part of, I found that bitcointalk is not as easy as I thought. It's just...different. I've struggled with a few things already just because I am not familiar with the platform as much as most  of you are.

What services are offered here exactly? I work at a start up and am as cliche as it sounds, I really believe in our project and we just need to gain a bit more traction. We're attacking several social media networks, but I wanted to take it up upon myself to learn from this platform with the guidance of others-with the help of others.

I don't believe I need to get into specifics about what we do. All I need to know at this point is what can the bitcoin community do to help us reach a wider audience? That is, the audience on this forum.

Please feel free to send me a DM with what you are capable of doing and how you charge about your services.

Thank you and I hope to hear from you soon.

-WORBLI
So this thread's main purpose is for to help managers to run signature campaigns. Some of them here also manage other campaigns (like twitter, facebook, reddit, etc). Good luck managers! I hope this thread's purpose isn't ruined.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: Taki on September 11, 2018, 08:22:49 AM
This is truly a great job and review. I just would add to Lauda's overview "has a sharp tongue"  :D I flighted with him/her my own couple of times and I know that I'm not the one. Add to that her/his manner of commenting can be really rough, but I admit his/her professionalism.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on September 11, 2018, 02:59:04 PM
This is truly a great job and review. I just would add to Lauda's overview "has a sharp tongue"  :D I flighted with him/her my own couple of times and I know that I'm not the one. Add to that her/his manner of commenting can be really rough, but I admit his/her professionalism.
Flighted (https://www.dictionary.com/browse/flighted?s=t)?

I am not gonna add words that Lauda has a sharp tongue,for people might(will) take it in a wrong way. Thanks though.  :)


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: Bhargurn on September 13, 2018, 09:53:41 PM
Its interesting how is the price for hire such a Bounty Manager.
Propably are diffrent price if we only want hire for
A) Preparing Bounty Campaign (making topic/signatures/google forms)
B) Except preparing bounty campaign also controlling work bounty hunters and responding as a support in Telegram Chat.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on September 19, 2018, 03:02:58 PM
Its interesting how is the price for hire such a Bounty Manager.
Propably are diffrent price if we only want hire for
A) Preparing Bounty Campaign (making topic/signatures/google forms)
B) Except preparing bounty campaign also controlling work bounty hunters and responding as a support in Telegram Chat.
Please stop shitposting!


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: loughlin on October 19, 2018, 09:31:45 PM
Maybe you can add changelog on the second post. For example, I find that you remove Lutpin from the list (i guess because of no payments for 777casino campaign) even they still in description part where you say nice words about them. Info and ref links can be useful for a clearer picture


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: DarkStar_ on October 20, 2018, 12:33:14 AM
Maybe you can add changelog on the second post. For example, I find that you remove Lutpin from the list (i guess because of no payments for 777casino campaign) even they still in description part where you say nice words about them. Info and ref links can be useful for a clearer picture

Lutpin's still on the list, and the thread hasn't been edited since September 28th. Check again.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on October 23, 2018, 09:27:02 PM
Maybe you can add changelog on the second post. For example, I find that you remove Lutpin from the list (i guess because of no payments for 777casino campaign) even they still in description part where you say nice words about them. Info and ref links can be useful for a clearer picture
Changelog isn't really necessary on this particular thread. Changes are very rare. There are hardly any good enough managers that are there for me to keep changing the list. Zapo almost made through the list, but I was suspicious about it from day 1, so decided to wait till something happens, and guess what? He got exposed. 

About removing Lutpin, I have thought about it, and have decided against it, even though he's been a little "irresponsible" or "non-punctual" for the past couple of months as some say, he is still a good enough manager. People should do their due diligence while hiring any manager, and this thread is just to help out newcomers weed out 12-year old bounty managers.



Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on January 15, 2019, 10:55:25 PM
Biggiity boppity Bump!
Managers, another reminder: Please create an ANN thread if you haven't already, and for those who still haven't PM'ed me your signed message, do send it too via PM. I can only update once all managers co-operate.  
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Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: LTU_btc on January 15, 2019, 11:24:31 PM
@pugman, what do you think about current situation of Lutpin? It's fact the one of the best campaign managers, but something have changed in last months. There was big delay of payments in campaigns managed by him and then management was transferred to Hampuz. But situation of Bitblender are still unclear - last payment was in the end of November and since then there are no news. Maybe you can consider removing him from the list? I have nothing against him, but it's clear that he can't manage campaigns now due to unclear reasons.


Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: pugman on January 15, 2019, 11:43:49 PM
@pugman, what do you think about current situation of Lutpin? It's fact the one of the best campaign managers, but something have changed in last months. There was big delay of payments in campaigns managed by him and then management was transferred to Hampuz. But situation of Bitblender are still unclear - last payment was in the end of November and since then there are no news. Maybe you can consider removing him from the list? I have nothing against him, but it's clear that he can't manage campaigns now due to unclear reasons.
I have considered about this whole Lutpin scenario quite a few times, and I have decided against it, so I won't be removing Lutpin, for now at least.

I don't have enough proof to claim that it was Lutpin's fault, it had been LightLord's fault too, IIRC, as far as Bitvest and 777 Campaigns are concerned. About BitBlender, I see people haven't been paid in 2 months, the escrow has around 0.1BTC in the wallet, I am willing to give Lutpin a few more weeks to figure his mess out. Until then, I will just put a red asterisk to warn people.



Title: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on March 03, 2019, 09:28:44 PM
pugman, thanks for this thread I find it more comprehensive, well documented and informative more than others I have seen. I received a question on my thread tilted [Guide] Factors to consider before joining paid signature campaigns (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115291.0/). Asking about a thread where he can find reputed campaign manager listed and I recommended your thread.

Keep up the good work.