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Microsoft VP will become CEO of Github.  Is this a attack against open source or Microsoft embracing it and wanting to bring it into the mainstream?

Personally I think microsoft coders use it so much, like constantly, and Bill Gates doesn't want to feel like he is playing second fiddle.  Also they want Github to be able to be used for non open source projects in addition to open source projects, and they don't want another entity controlling their secret data.  So they decide to buy it so they will control the data.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/04/microsoft-buys-github.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/04/microsoft-buys-github.html)

Given that github is the platform of choice for hosting the vast majority of crypto projects this is a very troubling development.

I wonder if Microsoft will again use the embrace, extend, and extiniguish strategy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish) on github.

I have read about it here, the comments are always best in thereg:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/06/04/microsoft_buys_github/

And here are a few self hosted alternatives that have come up in the discussions:
https://gitea.io/en-US/
https://gogs.io/

Absolutely sickened to hear this!!  >:(

@bitcoin/crypto devs - it's time to move house guys! URGENTLY!

#movingtogitlab

GitLab is also a good choice.

Video posted a few hours ago (the timing... :D): Migrating from GitHub to GitLab (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOXuOg9tQI)

It's bad news for our freedom

How can that be an attack to open source when Microsoft themselves lately contributing very heavily to open source(they even have a seat at Linux Foundation)? Currently, MS with new management, kicking ass for opponents and doing pretty good as a company.

Right now there are millions of private repos which are not open source, so what are you talking about?

Your third point is nonsense as well Git as technology is pretty decentralized, if they want control their secret data, they can host Git themselves.

With Microsoft management, Github should become even better place.

Bad news for the world of cryptocurrencies.

Good time to migrate.

Its death. Everything that Microsoft will buy will soon die. There are lots of projects that are already  gone and not used by people after its being owned by MS. One that is massively used before Microsoft was skype and after they  bought it, almost everyone avoided it already. There were more alternatives coming out too. Github  will die and maybe another will come out and again MS will buy it.

Github reason is money. But don't you  think  there is something of a conspiracy  here?

There are lots of anon coins already  and if maybe government is involve then  MS is out to get the names of those dev team. Maybe CIA is going  to take the names of those people. This is not just to unmask traders but the anon teams creating anon coins like BCN, XMR and so on.

If you think that Microsoft is trying to control GIthub for cryptocurrencies, then you are delusional. Cryptocurrencies are not the only things on GitHub and probably not at all what Microsoft cares about when they bought Github.

The reason for the acquisition is almost definitely for business reasons. First of all, Microsoft is a huge user of GIthub with tons of repositories. There were probably some features that Microsoft wanted that Github was unable to implement. By acquiring Github, Microsoft can make those features happen themselves. Furthermore, GIthub itself probably would like to have more financial and infrastructure support. Both of those things Microsoft can provide by utilizing its own cloud services and the fact that Microsoft has a lot of money. Github is largely free to use but the infrastructure to support all of the services that they offered is most certainly not free.

Another thing to note is that Github has recently had issues with properly serving Pull Requests (sometimes they would fail to load). This may be indicative of infrastructure problems that they were having. With the Microsoft acquisition, those problems may go away as they will have more financial support and more infrastructure to use.

I honestly don't think that the acquisition is all the doom and gloom that everyone makes it out to be. I don't think that Microsoft acquired Github to kill it, that wouldn't make sense given their large usage of Github.

I remember when they did buy Minecraft and the studio behind, it was mainly for the potential value of the user base.

If you think Microsoft produces a lot of developing tools and platform, which now supports also non traditional Microsoft programming languages, like Visual Studio Code. I would not be surprised if they did this move to strengthen their position, by reaching out on thousands of developers. I don't think as well it may necessarily be a bad thing.

Ya I think the "progressive" side of Microsoft is coming out in recent years and instead of the "embrace, extend, extinguish" strategy they are more about improving their image with millennials.  Maybe this says less about Microsoft, and more about us as a force to be reckoned with  8).

This is really bad for the open source community...All the code that is on the github repository now is controlled by this 1 giant company --> Microsoft

One of the most important technological factor that sets the blockchain apart from other technologies is decentralization. If power is too concentrated within an entity, that particular entity can wreck havoc and cause collateral damage to the entire network. The same logic may apply to the github acquisition.

I'm not a fan of Microsoft at all. It seems that their plans as of late have been to transform their customers into their products by making everything free or cheap, but then spying on people as much as possible. That said, git is very decentralized by nature, and it doesn't matter too much what the repository is doing. It would be only a minor annoyance to move eg. the bitcoin repo to any of a number of different git repo sites. Roughly the same thing has already been done once, when SourceForge started going downhill. I don't think that any action is required until bad things actually start happening at github, though.

Their are so many mixed coments on the title but one thing is sure that if Microsoft buys GitHub, then sure their will be some big movement to be coming in Crytocurrency world and it may be bad or good or both also. It also not avoidable question that is their any government on the back of this merger so that they can control the coins and the developers from creating coins.

bad news
Bill Gates said more than once that Bitcoin is a scam and it is a bubble.
But now that Microsoft has made an acquisition of GitHub, it means that Microsoft also needs to understand blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies,
and then the code of the trading platform will not be cracked by Microsoft.

I can nor agree on that, look at the Skype they bought it and now it doesn't even work but they bought it because people know about it and use it everyday. Same for github the only disadvantage is if they ruin some existing features or play around with terms and policies to screw everything up. They might even play with github code base and make it slower. It's like they ruin everything but have the money to do so. Github is not the only platform if MS screw it up people are gonna move away from it.

Open source promotes the prosperity of the community, open source is the trend, no one can stop the trend
Microsoft Layout Industrial Internet of Things, AZURE+GITHUB!

Disagreed. The community now is very different than the community, when bitcoin was moved from SourceForge to Github. It was not a problem for Satoshi to implement a cap on blocksize. Imagine, if u want to do the same now.

It depends is it a full acquisition of the company or will some parts of the company is still controlled by the original owners? If it is the former than we might see some big changes in the company and I don't think we can say it is a bad one. Microsoft is pushing it to the limits when it comes to technology and now they want to focus on somewhere digital. The article also have said that they won't be making money out of the takeover not until 2020 so just by looking at that I think they are trying to do some more expenses in order to improve GitHub.

sad to see that large corporations buy independent services. they like tentacles of the octopus try to grab everything and use it for their own purposes.

Damn, if only microsoft didn't have a bad record about what happens to things they buy, I think this would have been a great news and can be very positive and helpful for the mass recognition and trust from people to get into the crypto currency industry. But sad thing is, this is becoming more of a bad news than a good one. I hope this doesn't end up the way I think it will :/

is it true that Microsoft buys Github got 7.5 Billion? are Microsoft against bitcoin? is yes i think it will very bad for us because as we know that many project about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies is stored in GitHub, but if Microsoft pros with bitcoin and cryptocurrencies i think this is very good news

This is part of https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2018/06/04/microsoft-github-empowering-developers/ About MS plans


Plus seems that the CEO of github will continue to work on it with Microsoft https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/


We will have to wait and see how it evolves.

Microsoft wouldn't buy it cause its employees use Github and store their private data, they had enough resources to create a platform like Github themselves. But they bought Github cause it is already famous and for its large user base. If they started fresh than they wouldn't had been able to create a successful platform like Github now.

microsoft is an big company that have an  strong security ^^ so nice!

What?

Microsoft is a virus ridden, key logging, spy-ridden security hole that "phones home" everything you do.

Every business it swallows up turns to shit.

I am of the opinion that MS did a wrong call in buying the Github. We do not know their intensions but to be honest i have never seen MS excel in technology in the last few years.May be they want to do something different but we never know what new they are going to bring to the platform and attract buyers and sellers.I would be watching this for some time now.

I share your sentiment, I've seen a few talks of Satya Nadella (Microsoft CEO) and I had always gotten the impression that they've changed their policy when it come to Open-Source.
They're a premium sponsor of the Open Source Initiative. Source: https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/27/microsoft-becomes-a-sponsor-of-the-open-source-initiative/?guccounter=1

Indeed, I think they're also still a platinum member of the Linux foundation as well.
Source: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-release/microsoft-fortifies-commitment-to-open-source-becomes-linux-foundation-platinum-member/

I've also done some research to find out what kind of contributions Microsoft brings to open source projects.
Especially compared to Google, since it's known that Google contributes a lot.

Source: https://medium.freecodecamp.org/the-top-contributors-to-github-2017-be98ab854e87

Also interesting:
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-microsoft-and-google-are-now-leading-the-open-source-revolution/

I do understand why many people in the open-source community still harbor ill feelings towards Microsoft.
Back in the early 2000's Ballmer publicly called Linux a cancer.
Source: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/06/02/ballmer_linux_is_a_cancer/

He has changed his mind since then though.
Source: https://www.zdnet.com/article/ballmer-i-may-have-called-linux-a-cancer-but-now-i-love-it/

I went a little bit overboard with the links, but I think you get the point that it's not this black/white issue.

I think it's very good because microsoft is a very big company and very famous in the world, when github already bought by microsoft then all source code and contents that exist in github can be mastered by microsoft and can be github not free anymore.

I don't really understand what you're saying here... First you say that you think it's very good, then you mention that Github won't be free anymore.
Each project on Github is released under its own specific license, so Microsoft doesn't own any of it.

I really do not like to see the dev community upset and especially the crypto-dev community, but I think we have to seriously give Microsoft a chance.

Historically I do agree that they were not a company to be overly excited about (personally I used Windows simply because Linux and WINE was not advanced enough to run what I needed) however lately they have changed.

We - the communities - have asked them to get involved with open sourced and they have, people who pay attention to open sourced will know that Microsoft was one of the top contributors to public open source on github.

Microsoft have taken the first step with these statement:
GitHub will operate independently as a community, platform, and business. This means that GitHub will retain its developer-first values, distinctive spirit, and open extensibility. We will always support developers in their choice of any language, license, tool, platform, or cloud.

GitHub will retain its product philosophy. We love GitHub because of the deep care and thoughtfulness that goes into every facet of the developer’s experience. I understand and respect this, and know that we will continue to build tasteful, snappy, polished tools that developers love.

Read more here: https://natfriedman.github.io/hello/

I personally think that, instead of thinking that the apocalypse is upon us, we do our best to hold Microsoft to their word, in the long run, it is my opinion that this will help us more than anything.

Ultimately, I just don't want to loose GitHub, and if there is a chance for it to continue as is with MS, then I'm willing to take that chance. If it does fall through and Microsoft does go darkside on us, there is no doubt in my mind that an alternative will turn up to take over (Gitlab anyone?).

i find this announcement neither good nor bad. it will only become apparent in the next few weeks / months, whether that was good or bad. therefore, first wait and see if and how things will change through microsoft.

VERY GOOD

I guess its fine if Github changed owners, I just hope Microsoft is not going to mess with Github too much. If MS actually screws Github we always have bitbucket that is also enjoy using. Free private repositories FTW

microsoft owning a open source platform is nt a good move for cryptocurrency and blockchain industry it means that these central authority will control the open source and open thoughts of developers may be it is one form of net neutrality

I have never seen positive results from globalization. I think that Microsoft will not do anything good. There are more risks than positive hopes. But this fact has already happened. We can't change anything. All I know is that Microsoft always sells poorly tested products in pursuit of profit. I'm not expecting anything good.

I stumbled upon this news a week ago and apparently, I don't like the fact that MS bought Github since I know for a fact that some famous open-source codes and projects are at risk. MS would likely monetize the platform and make the codes subscription-based for the users to access it, or for the author of the code to publish it for free (just my opinion). In any case, it's best to move the codes into somewhere else while they can since it's just no good from here on out, and while this might not be the death of open-source codes, it still poses a risks for such projects staying on the said site.

You can't expect that to happen though. I suspect they bought github just to ave the data of the developers. What would happen next is very much unsure, how many anon coins developer are there whcih is now exposed to them? Is XMR coders in there too? They value so much of privacy, now look what privacy means for these people.

It means absolutely nothing for those who value privacy, they already using, VPN, tor, and other possible tools, to protect their privacy.

Github was a platform to share code where many software including the code for Linux and Unix were uploaded, now that it is on GitHub , Microsoft owns rights to use it and essentially they can put a price tag on the free software, so for the freelance software development this might be bad news

Github is a code sharing platform , it has nothing to do with blockchain or cryptocurrency, yes it may have code for a blockchain network but the data remains in possession of the user so it will not affect anything or the value of the cryptocurrency market at all, there's nothing to worry about.

so many people dislike Microsoft for its policy and business model
I would expect many developers leave github for another similar platform
and they should do it now, save and move their project files elsewhere
a paid software business overtakes an open source code sharing platform... doesn't sound promising :-\

Ugh. Those news are extremely concerning (my opinion may be biased as I am not the biggest Microsoft fan). Sure, as the OP said, they might want to take crypto mainstream, but probably not as we know it (more likely in a centralized and regulated manner). Fortunately there is always the option for projects to migrate to another hosting platform.

This is really a game changer and there is no need to speculate whether the deal will go through or not, it surely a done deal because before they would jointly address a press conference and talk about how their goals, objective and dreams "aligned", it would have gotten to a point of no return which is what we are facing and a confirmation that everyone has a price no matter how ideal or great your philosophy about life is and further solidify why its just the best for Satoshi to have stay out of sight for this invention we are all enjoying.

$7.5 billion is a whole lot of money that could turn an entire generation around. Its effect in crypto would surely be massive as I see the acquisition of various platforms that aid crypto currency as a tactical attack to take away to platform then leave it hanging which would then die naturally. Hopefully, this won't work.

I think Mircosoft is looking to deepen its research into Blockchain technology. They want to grow and Blockchain will be a great tool to do that...

If you think Microsoft produces a lot of developing tools and platform, which now supports also non traditional Microsoft programming languages. I don't think as well it may necessarily be a bad thing.

It depends on the parent company's intention do they want to take a good platform to make it great or remove the competition.Microsoft being the being company it is will only think big and help the platform to grow and add to it's value.

that was bad news, not good for blockchain because people hate with microsoft policy and I think we need to migrate

Microsoft constantly buys promising companies. I'm sure that Microsoft has long been developing its own cryptocurrency and solutions in the field of crypto. And the purchase of Github is both an investment decision and a strategic one.

At first glance it does not seem like a good news. Microsoft already has a unhealthy control over the market share and all the data collected.