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Title: [2018-06-05] Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed: Stylometry & Bootstrapping Proof, Claims
Post by: Diced90 on June 05, 2018, 08:26:28 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed: Stylometry & Bootstrapping Proof, Claims UK Nonprofit
Self-described informative and interactive crypto website, Zy Crypto, a nonprofit based in England, believes it has struck ecosystem gold by discovering Satoshi Nakamoto’s real identity. It’s the second attempt by the outfit, and both times they’ve relied upon stylometry before concluding that Bitcoin Cash developer Gavin Andresen is Satoshi hiding in plain sight. This go-round analysis involves not only statistical analysis of prose, but also Maciej Eder’s bootstrapping method in an attempt to eliminate natural bias in such conclusions.

Bitcoin Cash Developer Gavin Andresen Is the Real Satoshi Nakamoto

Two upfront admittances, if readers indulge. The first is, I am a Troy Watson fan. I enjoy his work, and count myself as someone who approves of his earnest dive into such subjects. Second, I have probably read more about the present pseudonym under examination than is healthy, and not just because I make my living in the space. Flatly, I am obsessed. No clickbait here, or not intentionally. No hype. This is a fun pursuit, and one worth some effort as it involves cryptocurrency’s origin story.

Zy Crypto is a curious little outfit based in a lesser-known part of the United Kingdom. They’ve the site proper, a news aggregation service, and what appear to be variations on the public relations themes of initial coin offerings and blockchains. To publish one, let alone two articles asserting both times how Bitcoin Cash developer Gavin Andresen is Satoshi, for once and for all, speaks volumes about either the confidence Zy has in its writer or the fact they’re sporting for clicks.

Consider this sentence, hitting readers right between the eyes: “We identified Bitcoin Cash developer Gavin Andresen as being the real Satoshi Nakamoto,” Mr. Watson boldly asserts before an immediate pivot towards technique. The primary methodology used in both examinations is what’s known as stylometry. It’s the study of prose put up against other writers as a way of determining patterns and is an actual predictive of authorship when done well.

Stylometry has picked up in recent years as an investigative tool when faced with the spectre of Satoshi Nakamoto. The pseudo anonymous creator of Bitcoin holds more than five percent of bitcoin in circulation, making him the first crypto billionaire. Should Mr. Nakamoto decide for shits and giggles to dump a significant amount of coin onto the market, not only would the price drop by virtue of economic law, confidence would probably crash as well, bringing down a giant chunk of whatever value bitcoin has. It’s a big goddamn deal who Satoshi is.
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Stylometry’s False Positives or Conclusive Hits
The technology to out a writer wishing to remain in has proven its worth. In the mid 1960s, Frederick Mosteller used stylometry to establish authorship of the hotly contested Federalist Papers, determining James Madison as their probable main author (instead of Alexander Hamilton). It took him almost half a decade, whereas today software exists to run such analysis pretty fast. More famously, and recently, no less an author than zillion-selling Harry Potter creator JK Rowling was found to be the actual author of The Cuckoo’s Calling. A few years ago she wished to have her writing evaluated on its own merits, and so Ms. Rowling took a pen name. Stylometry outed her.  

And Zy Crypto isn’t the first to attempt applying the statistical method to Satoshi’s true identity. As bitcoin’s price began to skyrocket, so did interest in who its creator might’ve been. During Craig Wright’s supremely odd public display, outed by supposed hackers, claiming to be Satoshi and then suggesting it was a hoax, a couple of once well-regarded tech journals believed Mr. Wright to be Satoshi. International Business Times employed the very firm used to blow Ms. Rowling’s cover, Juola & Associates. They soon determined what most in the know suspected: Mr. Wright wasn’t bitcoin’s father (he’d respond that he and partner David Kleiman collaborated on the project, but even that has been posthumously tainted). He managed to fool or convince or onboard original Bitcoin dev Gavin Andresen, who went so far as to record video testimony (Vitalik Buterin, Ethereum genius, weighed in on the noise of the matter, and later just outright spat fraud in Mr. Wright’s direction).    

Late 2017, price fever pitch reached maximum overdrive, and Michael Chon took his own swing at discovery. The Georgetown University and Booz Allen Hamilton alum concluded Satoshi was a group of devs, with some authoring the whitepaper while others engaged in email exchanges. He narrowed it down to four: “Nick Szabo, Ian Grigg, Wei Dai, and Timothy C. May.” Gavin Andresen wasn’t considered, a subject to which we return.
https://i.imgur.com/hvThdbU.jpg
Mr. Watson details how “using Eder’s bootstrapped stylometry method…this finding supports our previous article on the topic that also identified Gavin as Satoshi using Principal Component Analysis and Burrows’ delta.” Knowing full well the history I’ve outlined above, he concludes, “A big part of this failure can be attributed to the lack of convergence validity in the stylometry field.” And a pitfall within the field itself is how “stylometrics often cherry pick results due to their algorithms producing vastly different results when slightly tweaked,” he acknowledged. This led to suggesting Wei Dai as Satoshi, at least for a time.
Using Stylometry Analysis I Have Discovered I May Be Satoshi Nakamoto
This time, Mr. Watson’s confidence in Mr. Andresen as Satoshi extends from Maciej Eder, who “created a bootstrapping method specifically designed to overcome the problem of cherry picking elements like Most Frequent Words (MFW). The approach uses Burrows’ delta to find a difference between two texts, but also uses random sampling of MFW ranges so as to output more robust results. Burrows’ delta is basically a manhattan distance of z-scores which is sourced from a list of top words used in an entire corpus.”

The rest of the article reads similarly, and the interested would do well with frequent searches of Wikipedia. Nevertheless, he’s “found that the first nearest neighbour was Satoshi’s email texts followed by 3 of Gavin Andresen’s Github documents and then followed by Satoshi’s forum texts. These findings are quite reasonable because not only do they validate the links between the Satoshi whitepaper-emails-forums but they also cluster Gavin as the likely author. It’s also of interest that Gavin’s style was so much like Satoshi’s whitepaper that he beat Satoshi himself with the forum texts!”
Still more discussion of limitations and technical methodology follows, and those without a statistical or mathematical background are cautioned. It’s somewhat like reading French if you don’t speak French. Yeah, there’s the standard Latin alphabet and all, but that’s about as far as most will get. Again, Wikipedia is a friend.

I don’t buy it in the end, and have instead relied upon resident ecosystem muckraker, Crypto Cornelius, as my prime response. “I have identified Myself,” he typed in the patois of most these studies, “an amateur crypto enthusiast as being the real Satoshi Nakamoto using Yeder’s bootstrapped Coronary Angiogram stylometry method. This finding supports a previous thought when I woke up one night and thought ‘Could I be Nakamoto?’” Sides splitting, tears dropping on the laptop as I type to you Dear Reader, he continues, “Nano Stylometry was invented by Elon Musk and is a set of methods that aim to identify an unknown author by statistically deciphering their style using statistics, hard to understand graphics and random information.” For geeks like me, good old Cornelius is necessary to bring us back to reality. Happy reading.

 
https://news.bitcoin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-revealed-stylometry-bootstrapping-proof-claims-uk-nonprofit


Title: Re: [2018-06-05] Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed: Stylometry & Bootstrapping Proof, Claims
Post by: TraderTimm on June 05, 2018, 01:41:40 PM
Oh look -- a story from fucking Bitcoin DOT com - Roger Ver's lying mouthpiece domain, proclaiming that a BCash developer and turncoat is the "real" satoshi.

What the everloving fuck.

Also, the person who posted this -- you are a fucking enabling asshole -- This is a forum for Bitcoin news, not for Lyin' Ver's "news" stories.

GAVIN sold out to the CIA - and the real satoshi disappeared because of it.

You know what is really missing from this piece? A signed message using one of the early addresses that only Satoshi could've had control over. But we'll never see that, because Gavin Bell (his real last name, not his wife's) is a disgraced former Bitcoin developer that turned tail when he got conned by Craig "Faketoshi" Wright -- and was called out for it.

This article is garbage, the person who posted it here is garbage, and the entire premise is completely false and fabricated.


Title: Re: [2018-06-05] Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed: Stylometry & Bootstrapping Proof, Claims
Post by: 3LJKGB86R1rYeYcWccxCn on July 15, 2018, 11:03:14 AM
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Although I have several writing styles,  I am not writing a fucking book of any sort.  Although Craig Wright tried to impersonate me,  I cannot say anything else bad about the man.  I have no fucking proof whatsoever that he hacked my bloody backup keys.  Craig has not presented any plausible proof of having my hacked keys,  so I cannot blame him or any other person for my troubles.  I hold 0.00000000 Bitcoins.  I know this will disappoint the masses who were expecting me to be on the Forbes 500 list of billionaires.  It's never going to happen,  and I am fine with that.  I struggle with severe depression,  so I spend most of my days painting on canvas to rid myself of stress.  There will be many who will try to label this message a fraud or disprove it for various reasons;  frankly,  I don't give a shit!

Satoshi


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Although Bitcoin is a lovely piece of kit,  my ballicks are in a bit of a vice-binder,  mate!  Do you know what I mean?  It is like loosing your firstborn!  Bitcoin has been hijacked by the international banking cartel!  Bloody thuggery,  mate!
 - British Style

Y'all,  over dere yonder in Bitcoin land,  don't have the slightest idear whats goin on! Gosh darnet,  Everyone's too busy watching rerun episodes of Hee Haw and I Love Lucy! -  Texas Style

Me,  long time not see Bear in market!  Waiting bull come fast to rescue knapping bear. When rise,  price good, all happy.  - Native style

Maebe you saw a podst online width lotts of misdellings,  How do you no if I diddnt post dem online that way width de inttention distacting most readers?
 -  Intentional dispellting styl?

 


Title: Re: [2018-06-05] Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed: Stylometry & Bootstrapping Proof, Claims
Post by: Kakmakr on July 16, 2018, 06:48:35 AM
Yea, this is the same guy who were stupid enough to validate Craig Wright's proof that he was supposed to be Satoshi and he never considered that his Peers will challenge his findings and expose him as a fool. I think these were some of the actions that led to him losing his commit privileges.

Nope, these Roger Ver minions must try another strategy to pump new interests into their Fool's Gold.











 


Title: Re: [2018-06-05] Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed: Stylometry & Bootstrapping Proof, Claims
Post by: milewilda on July 16, 2018, 06:20:18 PM
Yea, this is the same guy who were stupid enough to validate Craig Wright's proof that he was supposed to be Satoshi and he never considered that his Peers will challenge his findings and expose him as a fool. I think these were some of the actions that led to him losing his commit privileges.

Nope, these Roger Ver minions must try another strategy to pump new interests into their Fool's Gold.

It sucks that this forum havent a feature on blocking up Rogershits website and now here we go again reading up another claim and its not surprising that there would be still more possible personalities
would do the same.

By the way i do actually laugh on that Signed message above. lol


Title: Re: [2018-06-05] Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed: Stylometry & Bootstrapping Proof, Claims
Post by: Kakmakr on July 17, 2018, 05:55:40 AM
Yea, this is the same guy who were stupid enough to validate Craig Wright's proof that he was supposed to be Satoshi and he never considered that his Peers will challenge his findings and expose him as a fool. I think these were some of the actions that led to him losing his commit privileges.

Nope, these Roger Ver minions must try another strategy to pump new interests into their Fool's Gold.

It sucks that this forum havent a feature on blocking up Rogershits website and now here we go again reading up another claim and its not surprising that there would be still more possible personalities
would do the same.

By the way i do actually laugh on that Signed message above. lol

No. no.. Do not block anything that they post, because that is how all this shit started. Roger Ver wanted people to move away from this forum and he fabricated a scenario where they claimed that posts were censored on this forum and then he created his own forum and loads of people flocked to his platform. <Mostly the Bitcoin XT butthurt crowd at the time>

This provided Roger Ver the audience to hype the Bitcoin Cash fork and to pump the price.  ::)

Let them continue spreading fud like this, because that exposes the underbelly of the beast that is BCash.  ;D


Title: Re: [2018-06-05] Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed: Stylometry & Bootstrapping Proof, Claims
Post by: BTCtalker3000 on May 04, 2020, 11:28:11 AM
Today McAfee pointed out that he now knows who satoshi really is because of stylometry. But he wont tell us.

Does anybody know more?

Edit

Here a better article: https://decrypt.co/24587/ethereum-cofounder-satoshi-nakamoto-identity?amp=1

 “stylometry,” a method to work out the author of, say, a book based on how it’s written. The same method can be used to unveil the true identity of Bitcoin’s alleged creator, the pseudonymous Satoshi Nakamoto.

So long as the code was entirely written by Nakamoto, “you can apply stylometric techniques to that code and apply it to all the open-source projects that have ever been written and there's a very high probability you're going to find a match between that code and other code,” Hoskinson told U.Today.
... Based on his skillset, it’s likely that Nakamoto is in his fifties or sixties and was educated in the late eighties or early nineties, he said.

It’s likely Nakamoto was an academic rather than a professional engineer, said Hoskinson, since the code is “overly academic.” A professional would have done a cleaner job, he said.

And since Bitcoin was written in an uncommon programming language which “was used mostly in computer science pedagogy, especially in England and in the Eastern United States during that time period,” that alone “gives you a lot of indication of where that person was trained,” he told U.Today.
Unfort. no name dropped.

So who is it in your eyes after that?


Title: Re: [2018-06-05] Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed: Stylometry & Bootstrapping Proof, Claims
Post by: gentlemand on May 04, 2020, 11:14:37 PM
Today McAfee pointed out that he now knows who satoshi really is because of stylometry. But he wont tell us.

Of course he won't tell you. He'll get more attention by pretending he knows. This is a man who didn't know Bitcoin had halved already before extemporising on it so my bum has more crypto credibility.

As for this Earth shaking revelation, I guess we all go senile eventually so maybe it is Gavin after a downfall. Let's get him back on the Adderall.


Title: Re: [2018-06-05] Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed: Stylometry & Bootstrapping Proof, Claims
Post by: btctaipei on May 05, 2020, 07:53:14 AM
depression indeed.  Today nearly all BTC transaction were not been used as digital cash and now being increasingly centralized and manipulated by the criminal banking class.  at this rate 5% holding may be very well worth exactly 0.00000000BTC


Title: Re: [2018-06-05] Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed: Stylometry & Bootstrapping Proof, Claims
Post by: hv_ on May 07, 2020, 12:58:08 PM
Uhh - not that bad aussie man ??

But McAffee 'knows'

 ;D


Title: Re: [2018-06-05] Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed: Stylometry & Bootstrapping Proof, Claims
Post by: Naida_BR on May 20, 2020, 02:35:40 PM
No proof that Gavin is Satoshi Nakamoto.
Those articles - researches are made just to attract people's and readers attention.
In the end if Gavin Andresen is Satoshi and he is already revealed why he doesn't show any proof of that?


Title: Re: [2018-06-05] Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed: Stylometry & Bootstrapping Proof, Claims
Post by: Darker45 on May 22, 2020, 04:11:30 AM
No proof that Gavin is Satoshi Nakamoto.

There is or are. As there are proofs that Satoshi Nakamoto is also Craig Wright. And a totally different person as per the same stylometry method shit employed by the dick-eating John McAfee.

In the end if Gavin Andresen is Satoshi and he is already revealed why he doesn't show any proof of that?

Because he is not?

Also, these days nobody wants to become Satoshi anymore. The moment that man/woman/persons will reveal, he/she/they will be hunted down immediately because of his/her/their potential threat to Bitcoin's price. Poor Satoshi! He/she/they can hardly even move 50BTC. LOL!

But, well, we are all Satoshi! ;)


Title: Re: [2018-06-05] Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed: Stylometry & Bootstrapping Proof, Claims
Post by: Kemarit on May 23, 2020, 01:30:36 AM
Yea, this is the same guy who were stupid enough to validate Craig Wright's proof that he was supposed to be Satoshi and he never considered that his Peers will challenge his findings and expose him as a fool. I think these were some of the actions that led to him losing his commit privileges.

Nope, these Roger Ver minions must try another strategy to pump new interests into their Fool's Gold.

It sucks that this forum havent a feature on blocking up Rogershits website and now here we go again reading up another claim and its not surprising that there would be still more possible personalities
would do the same.

By the way i do actually laugh on that Signed message above. lol

No. no.. Do not block anything that they post, because that is how all this shit started. Roger Ver wanted people to move away from this forum and he fabricated a scenario where they claimed that posts were censored on this forum and then he created his own forum and loads of people flocked to his platform. <Mostly the Bitcoin XT butthurt crowd at the time>

This provided Roger Ver the audience to hype the Bitcoin Cash fork and to pump the price.  ::)

Let them continue spreading fud like this, because that exposes the underbelly of the beast that is BCash.  ;D

Yes, I agree, sometimes we really need a way to break out of this Covid-19 boredom and laugh, so let Roger or Faketoshi puppets come in this community and make some statement about their claims. And it's really funny to see them being trolled in this community. :)

On a serious note, Is Bitcoin Creator Dead on Covid-19? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250437.0)  ;D