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Title: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: trifiz on June 10, 2018, 07:15:40 PM
Hi guys.

Today I put a thread on bitcointalk where I said I was looking for a bitcointalk account to buy for a friend.

I did not know that this was a borderline "situation" not well seen in the forum.

When I heard it I immediately changed my thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4450787.0), because I'm an honest user and also a seller for about a year, so I put my reputation first.

Shortly before it I was contacted by a guy on telegram that wanted $ 70 to not give me a negative trust, here the screens:

http://i64.tinypic.com/vfcgeq.png

The guy in this screen is The Pharmachist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487418), as you can see, the screen link is the same both in the telegram chat and in the reference in the trust.
http://i67.tinypic.com/33mmzoh.png

http://i66.tinypic.com/dwap3n.png



Now he has blocked me on telegram:

http://i68.tinypic.com/xgb5l4.png

I am very disgusted by this user's behavior.
I invite the moderators to take action if possible and we users must report such behavior, and do to him what he does to us.
I will give him a negative trust for blackmailing me.



Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on June 10, 2018, 07:19:35 PM
I don't know what that picture you linked to has to do with me, or even what it is.  Looks like a conversation between two people, neither of which is me.

You ought to look up the definition of "blackmail", because me leaving you a neg for trying to sell an account is not blackmail.  If I were to ask you for money to remove the feedback, that would be extortion I'm pretty sure, but I haven't done that.  It's OK if you leave me a neg.  Lots of people have done the same.


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on June 10, 2018, 07:21:59 PM
It is widely known that account selling/buying/trading will receive immediate red-trust. You have also admitted to leaving nonsense retaliatory feedback.

You can kick up a fuss about this as much as you want, but you only need to look at all the other threads complaining about the same thing to know that your feedback is only going to get worse.


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: trifiz on June 10, 2018, 07:27:30 PM
It is widely known that account selling/buying/trading will receive immediate red-trust. You have also admitted to leaving nonsense retaliatory feedback.

You can kick up a fuss about this as much as you want, but you only need to look at all the other threads complaining about the same thing to know that your feedback is only going to get worse.

I did not say I do not deserve my negative trust.
I'm saying that this guy is blackmailing users, and I think this too should not be seen well by the community.


I don't know what that picture you linked to has to do with me, or even what it is.  Looks like a conversation between two people, neither of which is me.

You ought to look up the definition of "blackmail", because me leaving you a neg for trying to sell an account is not blackmail.  If I were to ask you for money to remove the feedback, that would be extortion I'm pretty sure, but I haven't done that.  It's OK if you leave me a neg.  Lots of people have done the same.

Unfortunately you were not smart enough to change the link to the screenshot, but ultimately a person who blackmails for 70 $ I doubt is smart  :)


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: mdayonliner on June 10, 2018, 07:27:47 PM
LOL The pharmacist is one of the member who are always in front of my eyes. I don't reply always but looking at his understanding about tech savvy I do not think he will take the time to create a telegram channel then will text you there. It was defiantly someone else and you are mixing him with The pharmacist.

Now about the negative trust, if you talk to him with respect then I am sure he will understand your points. But the way you are approaching it's not gonna help.


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: trifiz on June 10, 2018, 07:31:47 PM
LOL The pharmacist is one of the member who are always in front of my eyes. I don't reply always but looking at his understanding about tech savvy I do not think he will take the time to create a telegram channel then will text you there. It was defiantly someone else and you are mixing him with The pharmacist.

Now about the negative trust, if you talk to him with respect then I am sure he will understand your points. But the way you are approaching it's not gonna help.

I do not have to be respectful to anyone, the chat is earlier than his trust, if you say that the one in the chat is not him, how would you explain that the link is the same? Black magic?


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on June 10, 2018, 07:34:10 PM
I do not have to be respectful to anyone, if you say that the one in the chat is not him, how would you explain that the link is the same? Black magic?
I don't even use telegram.  That isn't me, dude.

Why you did the screenshoot not logged in your profile?   ;)
I don't understand the question you're asking.


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: mdayonliner on June 10, 2018, 07:37:16 PM
LOL The pharmacist is one of the member who are always in front of my eyes. I don't reply always but looking at his understanding about tech savvy I do not think he will take the time to create a telegram channel then will text you there. It was defiantly someone else and you are mixing him with The pharmacist.

Now about the negative trust, if you talk to him with respect then I am sure he will understand your points. But the way you are approaching it's not gonna help.

I do not have to be respectful to anyone, if you say that the one in the chat is not him, how would you explain that the link is the same? Black magic?

How about (may be) you and your mate scripted the whole thing to prove him guilty after receiving the red trust? What prove do you have that the telegram account is his?

I don't even use telegram. 
I thought the same LOL


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on June 10, 2018, 07:37:43 PM
if you say that the one in the chat is not him, how would you explain that the link is the same? Black magic?

Because if you go to that archive site (http://archive.li/ (http://archive.li/)), and enter the URL of the post you made (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4450787.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4450787.0)), it tells you someone else has already archived that page and redirects you to the same link. That's how.


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: trifiz on June 10, 2018, 07:38:17 PM


LOL The pharmacist is one of the member who are always in front of my eyes. I don't reply always but looking at his understanding about tech savvy I do not think he will take the time to create a telegram channel then will text you there. It was defiantly someone else and you are mixing him with The pharmacist.

Now about the negative trust, if you talk to him with respect then I am sure he will understand your points. But the way you are approaching it's not gonna help.

I do not have to be respectful to anyone, if you say that the one in the chat is not him, how would you explain that the link is the same? Black magic?

How about (may be) you and your mate scripted the whole thing to prove him guilty after receiving the red trust? What prove do you have that the telegram account is his?

The telegram screenshots are earlier than the red trust


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: KWH on June 10, 2018, 07:40:48 PM

I do not have to be respectful to anyone, if you say that the one in the chat is not him, how would you explain that the link is the same? Black magic?
I don't even use telegram.  That isn't me, dude.

Why you did the screenshoot not logged in your profile?   ;)

The "proof" you offer is not proof. What is this, amateur hour?  ::)


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: Nomercyforthedirty on June 10, 2018, 07:42:44 PM
Op don't lose your time here. Even if you were right and not doing anything wrong this forum is run by only a few members of the same cartel.

The Pharmacist being one of the leaders in abusing his power together with Lauda and some other new comers to DT base.

They will never remove their negative feedback even if you beg to them on your knees. That is how things work here, get used to it or abandon it.


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: trifiz on June 10, 2018, 07:43:35 PM

I do not have to be respectful to anyone, if you say that the one in the chat is not him, how would you explain that the link is the same? Black magic?
I don't even use telegram.  That isn't me, dude.

Why you did the screenshoot not logged in your profile?   ;)

The "proof" you offer is not proof. What is this, amateur hour?  ::)

What proof should I bring you? a photo of him while he writes me on telegram? Lol


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: KWH on June 10, 2018, 07:45:01 PM

I do not have to be respectful to anyone, if you say that the one in the chat is not him, how would you explain that the link is the same? Black magic?
I don't even use telegram.  That isn't me, dude.

Why you did the screenshoot not logged in your profile?   ;)

The "proof" you offer is not proof. What is this, amateur hour?  ::)

What proof should I bring you? a photo of him while he writes me on telegram? Lol

And you would know it was actually him how?


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: KWH on June 10, 2018, 07:48:16 PM


I want to buy dirty pics of naked goats please.


I pay big money   ;) This is me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=993136

Sicko

What you no like goats?


Here is the proof: http://archive.is/tHf4G



*Learning tool made up by me.


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: trifiz on June 10, 2018, 07:49:53 PM

I do not have to be respectful to anyone, if you say that the one in the chat is not him, how would you explain that the link is the same? Black magic?
I don't even use telegram.  That isn't me, dude.

Why you did the screenshoot not logged in your profile?   ;)

The "proof" you offer is not proof. What is this, amateur hour?  ::)

What proof should I bring you? a photo of him while he writes me on telegram? Lol

And you would know it was actually him how?

Why the user who blackmailed me then does not give me the negative trust?
Why the guy who blackmailed me used a "disposable" telegram account if he did not give me the negative trust?
Why did both users use the same link?
Why the negative trust came right after my rejection on telegram?

In my country there is a saying that says: "2 clues make a proof"  :)


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: KWH on June 10, 2018, 07:51:41 PM

I do not have to be respectful to anyone, if you say that the one in the chat is not him, how would you explain that the link is the same? Black magic?
I don't even use telegram.  That isn't me, dude.

Why you did the screenshoot not logged in your profile?   ;)

The "proof" you offer is not proof. What is this, amateur hour?  ::)

What proof should I bring you? a photo of him while he writes me on telegram? Lol

And you would know it was actually him how?

Why the user who blackmailed me then does not give me the negative trust?
Why the guy who blackmailed me used a "disposable" telegram account if he did not give me the negative trust?
Why did both users use the same link?
Why the negative trust came right after my rejection on telegram?

In my country there is a saying that says: "2 clues make a proof"  :)

Why do you want naked goat pics? Why do you offer money?
GUILTY!


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: LeGaulois on June 10, 2018, 07:52:00 PM
@OP
It's obvious that the guy you talked with on Telegram is not the same as here. It's not the first time someone tries to scam people in IM and not the last. Once the same thing happened with someone saying Lauda tried to scam him on Slack.

Why would the Pharmacist do such thing ...for 70 bucks?


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: mdayonliner on June 10, 2018, 07:52:40 PM
The telegram screenshots are earlier than the red trust
~

Just shut up. You guys have attitude problems. I do not expect better output.


Listen OP. This seems very logical to me.
@OP
It's obvious that the guy you talked with on Telegram is not the same as here. It's not the first time someone tries to scam people in IM and not the last. Once the same thing happened with someone saying Lauda tried to scam him on Slack.

Why would the Pharmacist do such thing ...for 70 bucks?


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: trifiz on June 10, 2018, 07:55:25 PM
@OP
It's obvious that the guy you talked with on Telegram is not the same as here. It's not the first time someone tries to scam people in IM and not the last. Once the same thing happened with someone saying Lauda tried to scam him on Slack.

Why would the Pharmacist do such thing ...for 70 bucks?

I do not know the pharmacist and I do not know what he would do / nor how much money he would do.

I only know that if he is a serious person as you all say, having understood my motivations would have already removed the negative trust.




Why do you want naked goat pics? Why do you offer money?
GUILTY!

ahaah Xddd!1! xd!! aahaha xd!! you are really nice!11!! xdd!1!

The telegram screenshots are earlier than the red trust
~

Just shut up. You guys have attitude problems. I do not expect better output.

I am civilly explaining my doubts, do they seem so absurd?


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: KWH on June 10, 2018, 07:57:06 PM

I am civilly explaining my doubts, do they seem so absurd?

You offer zero proof.


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on June 10, 2018, 07:57:27 PM
Why the user who blackmailed me then does not give me the negative trust?
Because he admitted he's also a scammer. His negative trust is worthless.

Why the guy who blackmailed me used a "disposable" telegram account if he did not give me the negative trust?
Because he probably does this a lot and his account gets reported and banned.

Why did both users use the same link?
See my reply here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4452379.msg39826636#msg39826636 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4452379.msg39826636#msg39826636)

Why the negative trust came right after my rejection on telegram?
Maybe the telegram user alerted DT members to your scam, or maybe it's coincidence. Either way, irrelevant.


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on June 10, 2018, 07:59:06 PM
@OP
It's obvious that the guy you talked with on Telegram is not the same as here. It's not the first time someone tries to scam people in IM and not the last. Once the same thing happened with someone saying Lauda tried to scam him on Slack.

Why would the Pharmacist do such thing ...for 70 bucks?
And just FYI, I've had people try to bribe me via PM to remove feedbacks--and I'm sure I'm not the first DT member to experience this.  All such requests are ignored:
Im going to pay you $1K to remove my accounts' red trust..
I didnt vioalate any bounty rules you know that,i only did spam in some threads with my alts but i didnt use multiple accounts in a single campaign,how much do you want?

lets talk the pharmacist,i wont spam in a single thread if you do give me another chance
Hello. Have made some low-quality posts, but made it just because of signature bounty campaign. Could you please remove your negative trust? It's all about money. Give me your telegram account, or email address, or some contacts, or just eth address ;). Have an offers to you
This is definitely a case of someone posing as me.  It's either OP himself trying to set me up or someone who noticed this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4451508.msg39815519#msg39815519) and acted pretty damn quickly.  Hate to say it, but if it isn't OP then my next suspect would be pat25, who pointed out the account sale in the first place.  He certainly would have a grudge against me because of the feedback I left him.  Wouldn't surprise me at all if this was a plot to exact revenge.

Sincerely with this answer you make me understand even more that you are the scammer.
I never had any other account, otherwise I would have put the ad with a newbie already knowing the rule of the negative trust, i'm not so stupid.
There's obviously a big language barrier here.  I never said you had another account, unless you mean another telegram account--and I have no evidence that you do, only suspicion.  As I said, my guess is that it's either you or pat25 who's responsible for this scheme.  I don't have a telegram account.  Never did, and I don't plan on creating one.  Nor am I in the business of extorting idiots for feedback removal.


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: trifiz on June 10, 2018, 08:02:51 PM
@OP
It's obvious that the guy you talked with on Telegram is not the same as here. It's not the first time someone tries to scam people in IM and not the last. Once the same thing happened with someone saying Lauda tried to scam him on Slack.

Why would the Pharmacist do such thing ...for 70 bucks?
And just FYI, I've had people try to bribe me via PM to remove feedbacks--and I'm sure I'm not the first DT member to experience this.  All such requests are ignored:
Im going to pay you $1K to remove my accounts' red trust..
I didnt vioalate any bounty rules you know that,i only did spam in some threads with my alts but i didnt use multiple accounts in a single campaign,how much do you want?

lets talk the pharmacist,i wont spam in a single thread if you do give me another chance
Hello. Have made some low-quality posts, but made it just because of signature bounty campaign. Could you please remove your negative trust? It's all about money. Give me your telegram account, or email address, or some contacts, or just eth address ;). Have an offers to you
This is definitely a case of someone posing as me.  It's either OP himself trying to set me up or someone who noticed this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4451508.msg39815519#msg39815519) and acted pretty damn quickly.  Hate to say it, but if it isn't OP then my next suspect would be pat25, who pointed out the account sale in the first place.  He certainly would have a grudge against me because of the feedback I left him.  Wouldn't surprise me at all if this was a plot to exact revenge.

Sincerely with this answer you make me understand even more that you are the scammer.
I never had any other account, otherwise I would have put the thread with a newbie if i already knowing the rule of the negative trust, i'm not so stupid.
I'm a crypto seller active since 1 year in italian seciton


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: marlboroza on June 10, 2018, 08:09:05 PM
OP don't you think user who contacted you on telegram might be this user https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4451508.msg39817407#msg39817407 (archived here https://archive.fo/m41ZY) ?

Good work The Pharmacist! Thank you.

And I have another good account for you, The Pharmacist ;), kindly look here: http://archive.li/dk8Hd


https://i.imgur.com/IlZMkZi.png



Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: trifiz on June 10, 2018, 08:11:44 PM
OP don't you think user who contacted you on telegram might be this user https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4451508.msg39817407#msg39817407 (archived here https://archive.fo/m41ZY) ?

Good work The Pharmacist! Thank you.

And I have another good account for you, The Pharmacist ;), kindly look here: http://archive.li/dk8Hd


https://i.imgur.com/IlZMkZi.png



Yes, it is possible. Since this is very likely, I will remove my trust.
Forgive me, but it was a very dubious situation.
I hope that you too, the pharmacist, will understand


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: marlboroza on June 10, 2018, 08:13:07 PM
OP don't you think user who contacted you on telegram might be this user https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4451508.msg39817407#msg39817407 (archived here https://archive.fo/m41ZY) ?

Good work The Pharmacist! Thank you.

And I have another good account for you, The Pharmacist ;), kindly look here: http://archive.li/dk8Hd


https://i.imgur.com/IlZMkZi.png



Yes, it is possible. Since this is very likely, I will remove my trust.
Forgive me, but it was a very dubious situation.
I hope that you too, the pharmacit, will understand
Lock the topic.


Title: Re: The Pharmacist blackmailer
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on June 10, 2018, 08:15:57 PM
Oddly enough, I got this PM when I woke up today:
Please tag this guy for buying an acc
https://web.archive.org/web/20180610130037/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4450787.0
...and it's a request to tag OP.  This would be suspect #3.