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Title: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Aveatrex on June 10, 2018, 11:50:35 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: odolvlobo on June 10, 2018, 11:56:39 PM
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?

The act of moving a large number of bitcoins to an exchange won't affect the price any more than moving them anywhere else. However, some people may panic and sell because they believe that the "whale" is about to sell the entire amount, and that can drive the price down.

If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

My understanding of manipulation is that it is the attempt to change the outcome of a future trade. As such, a "whale" simply buying or selling large numbers of bitcoins is not manipulation, regardless of the effect on the price. Every trade, no matter how large or small, has an effect on the price.

Manipulation can be done by spreading false or misleading information, or also by affecting the price in one market in order to affect the outcome of a trade in another market.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Dansamiv on June 11, 2018, 12:33:58 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.
Unusual signs of yesterday may open the door to an unexpected up / down trend. Typically, each sign produces a prolonged reaction. But yesterday's trading volume was up / down very fast and there were signs of repeat. I suspect that it can not be determined right now. but also a reason to be skeptical.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: realaccountakira on June 11, 2018, 12:45:07 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

This is, and has been, a problem with crypto especially bitcoin for the past few years. After the Mt. Gox scandal there have been individuals that are in control the large sums of BTC people had. Sad thing is, until they do so, bitcoin won't be able to grow much because people will fear that those people can so easily manipulate market price. The good thing is, they will eventually run out of bitcoins to manipulate the market with. They've been doing this market crash thing for quite some time now and hopefully they will have had enough.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: tinyblue on June 11, 2018, 01:17:07 AM
Are you talking about today or yesterday? Because I heard this a few weeks ago.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: pinkflower on June 11, 2018, 03:36:59 AM
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?

The act of moving a large number of bitcoins to an exchange won't affect the price any more than moving them anywhere else. However, some people may panic and sell because they believe that the "whale" is about to sell the entire amount, and that can drive the price down.

If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

My understanding of manipulation is that it is the attempt to change the outcome of a future trade. As such, a "whale" simply buying or selling large numbers of bitcoins is not manipulation, regardless of the effect on the price. Every trade, no matter how large or small, has an effect on the price.

Manipulation can be done by spreading false or misleading information, or also by affecting the price in one market in order to affect the outcome of a trade in another market.

It is obvious he meant the whale moved 8000 coins to an exchange and then dumped them causing some stop-losses to be activated and that it sped up the crash.

Anyhow, I heard something about a MTGOX whale months ago but this time theres no news about this dump except a Korean exchange hack.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: hugeblack on June 11, 2018, 03:57:09 AM
Let's assume that's true. What is the impact of 8000BTC on 17,086,500BTC?
Honestly, this is not the most influential factor in the price, but I think there is a big manipulation going on in the price.
The price rose wildly last year and without any signs of it.

I do not think that's the only reason, but I think it's a valid cause ------> U.S. Launches Criminal Probe into Bitcoin Price Manipulation (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-24/bitcoin-manipulation-is-said-to-be-focus-of-u-s-criminal-probe)
So I think it has more to do with regulation.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: PsylockReborn on June 11, 2018, 03:59:08 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

I'm pretty sure those whales are just laughing at those weak hands that are so emotional when times of huge dips happens to all crypto. Weaker hands and emotional invetors tend to do a stop loss and sell their crypto portfolio at a lesser value and that's the time whales will have their shopping spree and will trigger again the uptrend of the values of cryptos. If you believe in the technology and understand the fluctuations of the market then you don't have to worry about this bloodbath.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: realcrypto on June 11, 2018, 04:10:15 AM
If the whale put the coin at normal price I will not call it manipulation but if he brings the down in the process of selling I will call it manipulation. He can wisely sell without pulling market down if he have good intentions.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: y_stars on June 11, 2018, 04:11:01 AM
Let's assume that's true. What is the impact of 8000BTC on 17,086,500BTC?
Honestly, this is not the most influential factor in the price, but I think there is a big manipulation going on in the price.
The price rose wildly last year and without any signs of it.

I do not think that's the only reason, but I think it's a valid cause ------> U.S. Launches Criminal Probe into Bitcoin Price Manipulation (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-24/bitcoin-manipulation-is-said-to-be-focus-of-u-s-criminal-probe)
So I think it has more to do with regulation.

I think that when people see those funds moving to the exchange, they immediately start selling. Like a domino effect.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: lendahawkins on June 11, 2018, 04:16:18 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
i dont know but right now i heard that america now will check few trading site to find whether there is market manipulation that was done by someone. After this news come out it make a huge market crash. I hope everything is okay and hope market soon will recover.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Ngemmeng on June 11, 2018, 04:17:12 AM
in my opinion the pope will not sell bitcoin in a single sale, there are investors who panic so bitcoin prices go down further.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: ElevenX on June 11, 2018, 04:18:39 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
i dont know but right now i heard that america now will check few trading site to find whether there is market manipulation that was done by someone. After this news come out it make a huge market crash. I hope everything is okay and hope market soon will recover.

Do you have a link to this news? In theory I would imagine should had been good for the price. But thinking about it, it gives a reason for manipulators to get in a few more dumps and rebuys.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: onecall123 on June 11, 2018, 04:22:34 AM
It is the whole market going down, which supposed to the moon this year, but unfortunately creating FUD for BTC instead of MASS ADOPTION. How’s it going to moon if new people aren’t buying when the whales manipulate the market heavily that not fair. Anyway, It's a Cryptocurrency dude, Anything is possible.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: yesyes18 on June 11, 2018, 04:24:04 AM
Well, it coukd be because of that reason. People get suprised when they see cmsuch things happening at exchanges. They then resort to selling off and leaving as they think the whale is going to manipulate the market with such funds. This then triggers the mass sell off, because anyone who did not even see it will start selling off with the otion that, they're keeping their money safe


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: First77 on June 11, 2018, 04:27:34 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.



I'm from Malaysia,and I brought 8000 BTC when many years ago(and glad that I still have found back).I'm looking for cash out all the btc I have own now,it is about 100 million usd fund,but I don't think my country market have support that huge of volume,I do my research found that exchanges in Malaysia are really small,big exchanges like only bitfinex and coinbase can support that much of volume,but it can't use their service in Malaysia,and I'm not US citizen.I don't know what to do now.I'm really frustrated knowing I own that much of money but I can't cash out due to my country is not popular with this coin,any suggestion for me? Whoever can help me solve my problem I promise to gave him 50btc after I manage to cash out.A man will keep his word.
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updated: 6.1.2018 4:54pm

what country that can support 100 mil usd withdrawal? I'm actually have thinking about open an US bank account,but I'm not sure whether I can withdrawal that much of fund from exchanges to my bank account or not.I actually don't mind paying tax fees to US or Malaysia gov whatever,I just want to have a cash out plan.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: crzy on June 11, 2018, 04:41:47 AM
It is the whole market going down, which supposed to the moon this year, but unfortunately creating FUD for BTC instead of MASS ADOPTION. How’s it going to moon if new people aren’t buying when the whales manipulate the market heavily that not fair. Anyway, It's a Cryptocurrency dude, Anything is possible.
Yeah, this is the sad reality in a world of cryptocurrency because whales can actually control the market. FUD news really makes new investors doubt on their decision, if this news is true I think the moment they sell their bitcoin is a new bear market. Hodlers must stay focus on their goal and remain positive despite of this red market.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: gambitcoin53 on June 11, 2018, 04:42:32 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

this is just a speculation, what triggered on the sudden drop of bitcoin price is the trend it creates to some panic sellers, it does not directly affect the price in case that is true, even a huge movement of a certain whale is not devastating in price drop, people's reaction on this movement is crucial, that is the rule of marketing. to increase the price of a commodity, the seller creates trends, false data to create panic selling.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: ralle14 on June 11, 2018, 04:47:33 AM
in my opinion the pope will not sell bitcoin in a single sale, there are investors who panic so bitcoin prices go down further.
Didn't know the pope also holds some Bitcoin /s

...
The post was edited last January 6. I doubt that this is the person that OP is talking about. There's no proof in the post, everyone here could easily fake it and say that they're a whale who is planning to sell an X amount of Bitcoin.

I looked through Google and found this article (https://medium.com/@VidrihMarko/bitcoin-whale-with-over-90-000-btc-pushes-bitcoin-to-huobi-exchange-big-selloff-3a34e64e50) from medium.  Quoting some parts of the article for those who don't want to read the whole thing.

Bitcoin whale with over 90,000 BTC pushes Bitcoin to Huobi Exchange — big selloff?

In the last few days, this address has started to send 8,000 BTC to a wallet of the Exchange Huobi. These moves were uncovered and investigated by an administrator of the Chinese forum 8btc.com .



Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: galambo on June 11, 2018, 04:49:14 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
I think this does not affect much to the market price of bitcoin just transferring a amount like 8K BTC will be just a normal trade in the list. The most amount of effect on the price of bitcoin appears only when a large number of community invests in it or sells it a single person cannot manipulate the market and cant make such a sudden change.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: timerland on June 11, 2018, 08:09:57 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

Who cares if it's true or not? It's not like it matters. If they have the bitcoin, they have the right to sell it off at any given time. Nobody should panic from their individual decisions. Plus, who can be sure that them moving coins to an exchange would indicate for sure that they're actually going to sell the coins?

As for manipulation, it depends on what you see as manipulation, honestly.

In any sort of market with free trading, people with higher amounts of an asset will always be able to move markets more. No difference in bitcoin, here. If this is just a person selling off their stash from before (even this is not confirmed), it's hardly "manipulation".


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: kryptqnick on June 11, 2018, 10:07:42 AM
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?

The act of moving a large number of bitcoins to an exchange won't affect the price any more than moving them anywhere else. However, some people may panic and sell because they believe that the "whale" is about to sell the entire amount, and that can drive the price down.
If anything, buying a big amount of bitcoins should've affected the price is a positive way, right? But 8 btc is really nothing if we are talking about a big exchange, it is only about 1/6000-th of the trading volume. The current price drop is related to coinrail reviewing the users due to a hacking attempt. But this exchange is actually a very small one with a trading volume of shy 2 million dollars! So I think it's more of FUD making some right newbies panic and ruin everything. I really don't understand why does it always have to be this way.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: speedy963 on June 11, 2018, 10:30:18 AM
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?

The act of moving a large number of bitcoins to an exchange won't affect the price any more than moving them anywhere else. However, some people may panic and sell because they believe that the "whale" is about to sell the entire amount, and that can drive the price down.

If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

My understanding of manipulation is that it is the attempt to change the outcome of a future trade. As such, a "whale" simply buying or selling large numbers of bitcoins is not manipulation, regardless of the effect on the price. Every trade, no matter how large or small, has an effect on the price.

Manipulation can be done by spreading false or misleading information, or also by affecting the price in one market in order to affect the outcome of a trade in another market.
I somehow agree with what you are trying to point out. Since manipulation is really hard most specially when you are alone working on the market, that is why some tend to spread false accusations and false news to confuse other peoples mind and then they start to play the market. It could only be possible when you are a whale.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Herbys on June 11, 2018, 10:53:25 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

Of course, a big player can easily change the situation on the market, but I do not think that this situation will change in a coordinated way. They will do it to earn money, and not to keep their capital immobile. The currency should work!
To change the global situation, we need to throw in news, expert assumptions that are based on facts, not fantasies.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: slashz9 on June 11, 2018, 10:59:37 AM
I'm not so interested in the issues in circulation, if you are an investor you should not think about the price up / down, is not that common every year, I also hear there are groups / or people who auction 60000 pieces of btc, make the price down.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: magneto on June 11, 2018, 08:00:53 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

I think OP is referring to this news: https://www.ccn.com/mysterious-asian-whale-begins-funneling-funds-back-to-huobi/

I wouldn't say that a whale moving coins around instantly means that the market is somehow being manipulated. Of course, the market could be manipulated by a variety of factors, but this isn't something that can be used as proof of "manipulation". Selling coins that is rightfully yours is something that can be done freely, doesn't matter if you have 8k BTC.

It shouldn't be taken as a sign of anything, really. It could literally be someone needing money to invest in other ventures, or that he feels like that bitcoin is going to go lower, so he's selling now.

It could be the reason why prices are down so much right now, but I feel like a lot of it is actually done by panic sellers themselves. I don't think there is any point in trying to monitor whale addresses, it's not a foolproof way to predict how bitcoin will move at all.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: tabas on June 11, 2018, 08:16:56 PM
I get it now, this isn't the reason why the market is bleeding today.
Check this news: Bitcoin Price Plunges After Hack of South Korean Exchange, Down 53 Percent Since December (https://gizmodo.com/bitcoin-price-plunges-after-hack-of-south-korean-exchan-1826723313)


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: kisscoin on June 11, 2018, 09:10:27 PM
Yes, large investors or campaigns specifically make the collapse of prices, they can afford it. In addition, they earn even more by buying currency at a low price. It is very harmful and it is time to do such manipulations illegal!


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Lecam on June 11, 2018, 09:16:36 PM
Moving Bitcoin from exchange or to other wallet wouldn't move the price unless the sell it off ,
But for sure it would really trigger some news and make the people panic and sell their Bitcoin because they would think that the whale would dump it and they would surely want to be the first to sell before the price drops down,
And because of it the price of Bitcoin would surely crash.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: iged_war on June 11, 2018, 09:19:13 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
I think this does not affect much to the market price of bitcoin just transferring a amount like 8K BTC will be just a normal trade in the list. The most amount of effect on the price of bitcoin appears only when a large number of community invests in it or sells it a single person cannot manipulate the market and cant make such a sudden change.
if we compare amount that moved to an exchange, its not ti much.but behind on that it's action influence other people to sell bitcoin they have.and now its have big effect in market.bitcoin reduce more than ten percent because of this.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: gantez on June 11, 2018, 09:46:03 PM
Yes, large investors or campaigns specifically make the collapse of prices, they can afford it. In addition, they earn even more by buying currency at a low price. It is very harmful and it is time to do such manipulations illegal!

Yes you have said what the issue is. The market has always been manipulated. Whales actually do that to have a chance to acquire more coin. Thetefore, you don't have to be surprised when this happens.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: ironman2014 on June 11, 2018, 11:16:53 PM
I`ve heard that too, this is one of the main disadvantages here on Market, that some guys from above can easily manipulate the price for their purpose


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Yakamoto on June 11, 2018, 11:36:46 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
One exchange doesn't really do anything significant to the market, there had to have been something else at play for there to have been such a considerable drop. You can even see it in most of the other exchanges, they all hit the downtrend around the same time, and I would think that either someone's algorithm got scuffed and started the dive for everyone, or there was something that was coordinated in an effort to knock the price down a bit. But I don't know for sure, since it caught me by surprise and I was just being an observer at the time.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: KenMasters on June 12, 2018, 01:44:34 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
I think this does not affect much to the market price of bitcoin just transferring a amount like 8K BTC will be just a normal trade in the list. The most amount of effect on the price of bitcoin appears only when a large number of community invests in it or sells it a single person cannot manipulate the market and cant make such a sudden change.
if we compare amount that moved to an exchange, its not ti much.but behind on that it's action influence other people to sell bitcoin they have.and now its have big effect in market.bitcoin reduce more than ten percent because of this.

I remember in early 2014, the head guy of Ripple announced that he was selling a large portion of his Ripples. The price plummeted, and it seemed like such a naive move. I never looked at Ripple ever again. Big mistake by me.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: darkangelosme on June 12, 2018, 02:17:53 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
I think it's true, cause in the past days before the Bitcoin price suddenly collapse i have heard rumors in some telegram group that there are whales that will going to dump his/her Bitcoin, at that time I've heard it bitcoin is in 7,400 USD.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: pinkflower on June 12, 2018, 02:44:32 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.



I'm from Malaysia,and I brought 8000 BTC when many years ago(and glad that I still have found back).I'm looking for cash out all the btc I have own now,it is about 100 million usd fund,but I don't think my country market have support that huge of volume,I do my research found that exchanges in Malaysia are really small,big exchanges like only bitfinex and coinbase can support that much of volume,but it can't use their service in Malaysia,and I'm not US citizen.I don't know what to do now.I'm really frustrated knowing I own that much of money but I can't cash out due to my country is not popular with this coin,any suggestion for me? Whoever can help me solve my problem I promise to gave him 50btc after I manage to cash out.A man will keep his word.
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updated: 6.1.2018 4:54pm

what country that can support 100 mil usd withdrawal? I'm actually have thinking about open an US bank account,but I'm not sure whether I can withdrawal that much of fund from exchanges to my bank account or not.I actually don't mind paying tax fees to US or Malaysia gov whatever,I just want to have a cash out plan.

Thats nothing but a scammer trying to find a new victim here on Bitcointalk. Maybe the person who started this thread is a part of it lol.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: leavolnhals on June 12, 2018, 02:50:17 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
I do not think it's a whale. it's an organization. It establishes an organization to manipulate the market and bring about daily profits. In the stock market too, there are a lot of manipulation has been happening. The government can not handle this manipulation.
Nevertheless, the true value of Bitcoin and other altcoins remains unchanged. Let's wait for its real price in the future.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: KrishaBitcoin on June 12, 2018, 02:55:03 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

No! This time the big whales has nothing to do to this current price falls in which the report say it just a normal thing for the holders to sell their Bitcoins but it create panic to some investors and also it says about Coin Rail hack in which it makes some South Korean Bitcoin enthusiast to panic too. Here is the link to the news https://www.ccn.com/cryptocurrency-market-falls-25-billion-overnight-as-bitcoin-drops-6-factors-and-trends/.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: andriarto on June 12, 2018, 03:01:00 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

No! This time the big whales has nothing to do to this current price falls in which the report say it just a normal thing for the holders to sell their Bitcoins but it create panic to some investors and also it says about Coin Rail hack in which it makes some South Korean Bitcoin enthusiast to panic too. Here is the link to the news https://www.ccn.com/cryptocurrency-market-falls-25-billion-overnight-as-bitcoin-drops-6-factors-and-trends/.
i seem to believe in your link. panic sells massively price down, and i think this is an opportunity for us to buy bitcoin in large quantities, and i think it will soon be profitable


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: snkneo on June 12, 2018, 03:11:24 AM
Are you referring to the Mt. Gox lawyer? I remember him moving around a billion dollars worth of Bitcoin earlier this year. He is the reason why Bitcoin crashed last January.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Boov on June 12, 2018, 03:13:08 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

Well it is indeed true that a wahle or a large investor can manipulate the price of bitcoin by simply selling their invesment or coin in bitcoin , however bitcoin gain so much strong reputation and that is the reasn why there are a lot of whales in bitcoin. Yes bitcoin has a lot of whales , dont be panic just because you're thinking that the whale may or might sell all their investment just to be safe, In fact in the first place, why does the whale would sell their investment? and why are there still a lot of whales in bitcoin? because they are confident that bitcoin's price or bitcoin itself has a great future, dont panic just because of the news around us, just try to validate it first before making any mover because if you dont , youre making a huge mistake


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: syaripudin on June 12, 2018, 03:19:53 AM
even if it is true that what happens to the crypto currency is a game from the pope I think it will not affect the level of confidence that is owned by investors to continue to invest in bitcoin. because I see though there is some news about the price manipulation of the pope but to this day bitcoin still has a great existence.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: pinkflower on June 13, 2018, 04:30:45 AM
Is 8000 BTC large enough to move the price down? Ask yourself that before all of you start to succumb to the FUD.

With that said, it is better to study and research the strongest during a bear market to prepare investing in them during a bull market. I recommend Burst (http://www.burst-coin.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/The-Burst-Dymaxion-1.00.pdf).


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: giarised on June 13, 2018, 10:00:55 AM
I'm not so interested in the issues in circulation, if you are an investor you should not think about the price up / down, is not that common every year, I also hear there are groups / or people who auction 60000 pieces of btc, make the price down.
That is the basic point. If you are a trader or investor, why to go for such news? Brothers you better known in the world of bitcoin, either prices are up or down, there is a benefit hidden for you always. You are just to go and fetch that up for you and make your life better. Now prices are down, so don’t just be sad and sit down with much worries, no, rather just buy up more bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: molenracing on June 13, 2018, 11:36:25 AM
Do not be easily affected by the news that is not clear the truth, we should still be patient with this reality, if there is a whale who moved 8,000 BTC, and make the price fall. we let it go, we do not have to panic and follow-up selling our Bitcoin, which will cause the price to go down as bitcoin supply increases. keep calm, hopefully the price recovered.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: squog on June 13, 2018, 11:44:07 AM
That is why we small investors should buy more anx hold on to our coins! For one thing, this prevents whales from ever swooping in and shorting the market whenever they want. We also must not be one of thosr people who sold their holdings when the market dips even for a bit. Ifnthis true or not true, it is a reality that whales control cryptos.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: darewaller on June 16, 2018, 12:02:44 PM
Let's assume that's true. What is the impact of 8000BTC on 17,086,500BTC?
Honestly, this is not the most influential factor in the price, but I think there is a big manipulation going on in the price.
The price rose wildly last year and without any signs of it.
It sure do have a lot of impact when it is not done over the counter and it is rather done on an exchange which was the reason the MtGox sell off was so easy to get the market running down pretty fast around last year that almost led to some fear in the market. The liquidity in these exchanges may not be enough to help with all these and selling a huge amount all at once will simply affect the value.

You need to understand that not all the coins in circulation are on exchange. However, like you have said there may be several other reasons which this that you mentioned may be a part of it.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: googs84 on June 16, 2018, 01:24:46 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

With wide eyes open I am sure there is no such news coming out of the market. I cant even read it over the forum except the thread only. If Whale moved it then there should have been someone who caught the transaction coming and also if there was sell made for that big amount then surely there would have been another proof of its sell. But nothing like that can be seen here. Though they moved it then it doesn't 100% makes us sure that they have sold it or going to do so. Who knows they might just wanna transfer it within the voucher to give to someone or it could be exchanger address itself who moved it to their repository or something similar.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: RamonBTC on June 16, 2018, 01:36:25 PM
In our personal view 8000 BTC is huge number to be worried about, but it is just a small portion of market numbers that is almost 18 mil in circulation. So whales, exchanges or user can transfer anytime in any bitcoin wallet would not affect it, but only in times when they’re is a sold out in this magnitude. A transfer of coins on one account to another won’t change the numbers on chart until it is exchange or cashed out.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: carlisle1 on June 16, 2018, 01:50:06 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
What makes you think that big amount like 8k bitcoin was just Moved to a exchange will make the market down?ofcourse this will not affect the movement of market because this was only movement not withdrawing means same amount of coins will be in circulation.

What affect the market is the panicked people that getting nervous anytime something like this happen,but this seems to be a fake news


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Whosdaddy on June 19, 2018, 12:31:58 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.
Unusual signs of yesterday may open the door to an unexpected up / down trend. Typically, each sign produces a prolonged reaction. But yesterday's trading volume was up / down very fast and there were signs of repeat. I suspect that it can not be determined right now. but also a reason to be skeptical.
Nothing can be determined but it was somehow obvious that the sell off yesterday may have been as a result of that but it is still all pure speculation but the thing with these whole kind of news is that it affects the market pretty fast and this is the main reason why we keep talking about the level of volatility of this market that everyone should understand but does not mean it is the end of the world and I believe the Gox fever is still in a lot of people considering how the sell off by the MtGox trustee has been like.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: ausbit on June 20, 2018, 05:07:43 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

This is, and has been, a problem with crypto especially bitcoin for the past few years. After the Mt. Gox scandal there have been individuals that are in control the large sums of BTC people had. Sad thing is, until they do so, bitcoin won't be able to grow much because people will fear that those people can so easily manipulate market price. The good thing is, they will eventually run out of bitcoins to manipulate the market with. They've been doing this market crash thing for quite some time now and hopefully they will have had enough.
A really big problem and one that has been affecting a lot of trader's mentality which about some months ago claimed how unhappy they were with the selloff.

However, all these kind of stuffs are easy to see happen in a market where a lot of people are holding a huge amount of bitcoin and the market cap is also pretty much low as well and until we start seeing a huge market in our hands before we would really start seeing some difference.

MtGox issue has really been a problem and maybe once he is done selling, there would be some relaxed feelings in the market to help with growth.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: BaraxLo on June 20, 2018, 06:35:24 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
Since the incidence of the MtGox sell off, a lot of uncertainty and fear has been generated in the market and because of that a huge amount of bitcoin being moved in the market somehow can actually generate some fear in a way among traders or investors which could cause a panic sell and then we get to see the value being driven down. I still believe this is affecting the market psychologically until all those coins are fully sold out of the market.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: charlotte04 on June 20, 2018, 06:37:36 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

No, a whale didn't do that. It is the people like you that have the prices fall. The panicking, the fear. That's what the prices is going down because of people who are afraid like you.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Direwolve735 on June 20, 2018, 07:30:53 AM
I believe that there are three main reasons why the bitcoin rate fell. The basis for the current correction of bitcoin formed a number of factors, in particular:
• Lack of trading volumes in the market of crypto currency in recent months.
• Loss of interest and disappointment of retail investors in the sector's prospects.
• The unequivocal position of regulators towards the development of strict rules, which are expected by large capital.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: gambitcoin53 on June 20, 2018, 07:40:52 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.


what dictates the price of bitcoin is not by whales selling their assets, it is the wave they create, meaning, the trend they have created, those panic sellers are the ones whom we should blame, obviously, whales are not the biggest problem, those little traders that panics everytime they heard news about whales who sold a huge amount then they tend to sell as quickly as possible. thus creatind a trend because we all know there are millions of little traders rather than big whales, one move by the big whales are nothing compared to millions of users who sell altogether at the same time.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: yuukireit on June 20, 2018, 07:50:25 AM
i think there is no whale who directly dump all of their BTC, but if someone that account being hacekd will also doing that, the whale is not a dumb person that letting all off their money get away easy like that, they looking the price in the future


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: ASHLIUSZ on June 20, 2018, 08:06:21 AM
Whales were the one who got the ability to manipulate the market. At times moving a bulk volumes of bitcoin happens and this is quite common thing. People have known about it, and to the whales have the ability to shake the market to some extent. When the market is manipulated the panic prevailing around the new investors will hardly affect the growth.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: AniviaBtc on June 20, 2018, 09:04:08 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
We can not avoid it, especially because the price of bitcoins depends on the demand and the amount of investors investing in it. This is harmful but when many people invest in bitcoins even small or large we will defeat the whales who manipulate the market.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: coingrowth on June 20, 2018, 09:27:41 AM
whales actions are unknown and this 8000 btc transfer mostly a fud created to misguide the investors and dump the coins nt to trust in this news as it is created for panic selling mostly


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: hexline11 on June 20, 2018, 09:52:48 AM
whales actions are unknown and this 8000 btc transfer mostly a fud created to misguide the investors and dump the coins nt to trust in this news as it is created for panic selling mostly

How can big whales move 8k BTC? Is it possible that they can manipulate the price of bitcoin? I am afraid on what is happening with bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: warrior333 on June 20, 2018, 10:06:25 AM
whales actions are unknown and this 8000 btc transfer mostly a fud created to misguide the investors and dump the coins nt to trust in this news as it is created for panic selling mostly
What is 8000 bitcoins? It's small. There are about 7.5 million bitcoins in circulation. If you are afraid that 8000 bitcoins that can be put up for sale can destabilize the entire market then you do not understand anything about the bitcoin market. A few months ago, popular exchanges sold about 50,000 bitcoins every day.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: dashi555 on June 20, 2018, 10:20:14 AM
These are not necessarily true news. Many of them are publicized by the media. It is believed that it is useless, and the market should not drop sharply for the 8,000 BTC. This is only a very small part.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Camorra Dev on June 21, 2018, 10:53:51 AM
I`ve heard something like that...It is so hard to understand, while you are trying hard for 3-4 months to obtain at least 1Btc, and somebody just has 8000BTC and manipulates price with them.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: 1Referee on June 21, 2018, 11:53:31 AM
It is so hard to understand, while you are trying hard for 3-4 months to obtain at least 1Btc, and somebody just has 8000BTC and manipulates price with them.

What is that for reasoning? It's the same as saying that people work an entire year to make $25,000 where other people make that in just a month or week. Just accept that there are differences in the world when it comes to wealth generation. The wealth in current times has never been this 'unfairly' distrubuted. 1-2% own 98-99% of the wealth. Also don't forget that there are always bigger whales. Some have hundreds of thousands of Bitcoins. ::)

And eh, are you talking about yourself that you need 3-4 months to obtain 1BTC at minimum? The majority of the people would be extremely happy if they could obtain 1BTC in 12 months.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: perfect999 on June 25, 2018, 06:02:51 AM
I`ve heard something like that...It is so hard to understand, while you are trying hard for 3-4 months to obtain at least 1Btc, and somebody just has 8000BTC and manipulates price with them.
Well, this could be true because when bitcoin was cheap and few people knew about it, they used to buy so many at cheap rates because no one cares about this technology. Those who did not sell their bitcoin at that time, those people are now rich and the rulers of the bitcoin. They have technically the command of controlling the prices of bitcoin. Let us also work hard to have so many bitcoin to control prices.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: asdnguyenthanhtin on June 25, 2018, 08:44:43 AM
I think 8k BTC is not big enough to affect the price of BTC on the market. But it is true that many sharks are joining together to manipulate the price of the entire crypto. The sharks will not go single


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Camorra Dev on June 28, 2018, 12:30:10 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition to Stop-Losses being triggered. Is that true? What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

This is really bad, while you are working and somebody by himself can just go and break your system, lol. If I would have such amount of money, I don't know what I am going to do...


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Dukjila on June 28, 2018, 12:35:47 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
Manipulation by the market is not a secret, it was very clear when Bitcoin cost more than $ 10K.
The swing was 10% - this was the profit.
Now 10% can not be raised, but I think it will soon come.  :)


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: r32godzilla on June 28, 2018, 01:37:01 PM
Here we could not clearly say anything.Earlier when bitcoin price fell down,it was said that due to dumping by big whales price fell down and when it's price started recovering,it was assumed that whales have started to rebuy.Now once again,the price is falling and what would they say for this?


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: carlisle1 on June 28, 2018, 01:46:25 PM
whales actions are unknown and this 8000 btc transfer mostly a fud created to misguide the investors and dump the coins nt to trust in this news as it is created for panic selling mostly

How can big whales move 8k BTC? Is it possible that they can manipulate the price of bitcoin? I am afraid on what is happening with bitcoin.
Whales own ten thousand bitcoins or more,this is for single individual only so theres no impossible about that and besides this people has no concern about us instead they are only concerns for the income they might have

Here we could not clearly say anything.Earlier when bitcoin price fell down,it was said that due to dumping by big whales price fell down and when it's price started recovering,it was assumed that whales have started to rebuy.Now once again,the price is falling and what would they say for this?

Well theres nothing new since the start of this year so why not just bare with this market until the bull comes to save us


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: acheampong64 on June 28, 2018, 02:12:27 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
I haven't heard anything of such sort at anyplace. Anyways if that's true then as you said it will look real bad, but the other fact is that BTC in circulation is more than the 8k and so even if it falls a little, the price will surely recover


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: zakariajaki on June 28, 2018, 02:16:01 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
if anyone plays to manipulate the price I think it could happen but it does not make sense, because crypto is too easy to predict and be so easily dicuased, and in my opinion bitcoin prices go down to the present not because there is a price stem but in collision regulation of each country in the world to the existence of crypto, while on the other hand bitcoin gives chance to new altcoin to enter and have price, hopefully useful and successful for all of us


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: raybut37 on June 28, 2018, 02:25:54 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

The prediction is still no assurance that it will move to $8000 because the market today is still continue to decline and the feedback from many people is still negative.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: gabmen on June 28, 2018, 02:55:58 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

The prediction is still no assurance that it will move to $8000 because the market today is still continue to decline and the feedback from many people is still negative.


It's not a hidden fact that this market can be manipulated by whales so there's no surprise in that. It's always been like that and we small fishes can't really do anything but just react in our small ways.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: sunsilk on June 28, 2018, 04:50:23 PM
Here we could not clearly say anything.Earlier when bitcoin price fell down,it was said that due to dumping by big whales price fell down and when it's price started recovering,it was assumed that whales have started to rebuy.Now once again,the price is falling and what would they say for this?
Still there's the same demand that we are getting which means that the market is quite stable and there's no movement that has been seen.

How can big whales move 8k BTC?
Its about by sending their bitcoin to any exchanges or moving from one wallet to another wallets. That's what moving means and there's no other any meaning for that.

And someone can send more than 8k BTC as long as he has more than that on his wallet.

Is it possible that they can manipulate the price of bitcoin? I am afraid on what is happening with bitcoin.
Yes.

Crypto isn't for weak heartened people so stand up and be firm.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Jannatul Shefa on June 28, 2018, 06:57:19 PM
I heard it. But still you can't say anything surely because in market anything can be happen. If price started recovering then it will reach 8k or more than it. So just wait and have patience.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Kiweikoo on July 02, 2018, 07:20:43 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

The prediction is still no assurance that it will move to $8000 because the market today is still continue to decline and the feedback from many people is still negative.


It's not a hidden fact that this market can be manipulated by whales so there's no surprise in that. It's always been like that and we small fishes can't really do anything but just react in our small ways.
I have not heard about the news yet but this can be possible and not an impossible thing. Bear in mind very few people have this muck Bitcoin and they can manipulate the market. The price drop from few months ago till yet is not more than $2k thought there were frequent rise and fall.

Irrespective of all these things, I would say that the market can also tackle this problem and demand is one of the factors that can even outshine what manipulators do. Better stick to your strategies.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: patarfweefwee on July 02, 2018, 07:24:15 AM
Well, conspiracy theorists say that whales do control the market since it is a deregulated and decentralized currency. But i haven't heard of any of the whales doing that. Then again, i you wouldn't hear about these kinds of activities in the news since it would be illegal to do it. But let's keep hoping on BTC to be successful and stablize soon.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: ThunderFive on July 02, 2018, 07:30:23 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition to Stop-Losses being triggered. Is that true? What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

This is really bad, while you are working and somebody by himself can just go and break your system, lol. If I would have such amount of money, I don't know what I am going to do...

George Soros is exactly the man who will just go and break your system to make money for himself.

With someone, they don't care about how much money do they have, it's just a number, they just want to do whatever they like.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: engwenqu01 on July 02, 2018, 07:31:01 AM
I only heard someone transfering 80,000 bitcoins today, ready to sell, not the behavior of the exchange, it is a personal address, so be careful.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Sled on July 02, 2018, 08:44:35 AM
There is a lot of whales in the world of cryptocurrency and for me, i am not surprised if i will see some posts or news that is about the whales that are transferring huge amount of bitcoin to an exchange or dumping it in an exchange because it is a normal activity for me since whales are doing that to manipulate and to see the image that they wanted to see in the market.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Lorence.xD on July 02, 2018, 09:38:59 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
I think this does not affect much to the market price of bitcoin just transferring a amount like 8K BTC will be just a normal trade in the list. The most amount of effect on the price of bitcoin appears only when a large number of community invests in it or sells it a single person cannot manipulate the market and cant make such a sudden change.

Market is Volatile, anything can happened at any given time at the market trading, Movement of 8k of Bitcoin is just a fraction of the volume of trading investment in Bitcoin, this does not affect in any way or what so ever on the price value of Bitcoin, there are a lot of indicators that contribute to the price movement, like, the issue on Scammer, Banned, Hacking, and the never ending issue on Regulation, not to mention the market trends, market structure, over all situation of the market.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: b3j0 on July 02, 2018, 09:42:38 AM
I think it does not matter because when whales sell a lot of bitcoin, bitcoin prices will go down and this is the right time to buy. prices will rise again after they buy back.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: rasp on July 02, 2018, 01:59:52 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
Quite tired of all those speculations regarding the movement of bitcoin between the addresses and exchanges.
Imagine what would happen if every single transaction of fiat money would lead to rumors and fluctuations of price.

"$600 million were deposited today in XXX bank". - Bang! - "USD fell down for 20 percent!"

Just let those people live in peace and their business the way they like unless it is forbidden by the rules.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Johnyz on July 02, 2018, 02:11:59 PM
There is a lot of whales in the world of cryptocurrency and for me, i am not surprised if i will see some posts or news that is about the whales that are transferring huge amount of bitcoin to an exchange or dumping it in an exchange because it is a normal activity for me since whales are doing that to manipulate and to see the image that they wanted to see in the market.
Yeah, not new in this market. Whales will make moves to control the market but don’t worry whales can’t do that forever they still need to pump the market so new investors wlll come, we just need to wait for that moment patiently.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Hui8 on July 02, 2018, 04:00:41 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

I got clear picture of this matter recently. That was a Chinese investors who has more than 100,000 Bitcoins in his wallet. Off which he has now moved and sold the 8K Bitcoins. But the down surge that came because of this selling came and gone and no one even realised that it affected the market at all. This can be explained with the fact that these bitcoins might have been bought with large buy orders that were in progress already due to large investments on going currently. So we are completely fine with whatever he did and there was no negative effect. Lets just hope he dont sell his remaining B all together. Lolz.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on July 02, 2018, 04:25:05 PM
I only heard someone transfering 80,000 bitcoins today, ready to sell, not the behavior of the exchange, it is a personal address, so be careful.
Just heard, you do not know exactly what will happen. This speculation will have a bad effect on bitcoin investors, and this should not happen. The cryptocurrency market is too crazy if such information continues, too much bad speculation will occur and too much confidence in market manipulation. If I am a new investor and know cryptocurrency with 100% for sure I will never touch bitcoin and altcoin.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: whirlcoin on July 02, 2018, 04:45:53 PM
I think it does not matter because when whales sell a lot of bitcoin, bitcoin prices will go down and this is the right time to buy. prices will rise again after they buy back.
This has been said many times if you think the whales are brinf down the prices then it should be the perfect time to buy some bitcoins.But we are not ready to buy when the prices are causing so if the one who has enough guts to take risks of buying bitcoin at the crash will get more benefits.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Camorra Dev on July 04, 2018, 09:38:24 AM
 I've heard just for 5 minutes ago that some mysterious whale moved 94000 BTC, so this is way more important news, anyway it does not having any significant effect on the price which is amazing.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: weblouartisan on July 04, 2018, 09:44:45 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

Even though it was not true but there is a very high probability of a whale to move bitcoins price to 8k dollars because most of them are just waiting for the price to dump even more before investing a huge amount.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: BitcoinCommodor on July 06, 2018, 07:58:39 AM
I think it does not matter because when whales sell a lot of bitcoin, bitcoin prices will go down and this is the right time to buy. prices will rise again after they buy back.
Irrespective of what the Whales do in the market, the market has the inbuilt capabilities to recover and move towards the equilibrium. Right now, the price of a Bitcoin is $6619.90 and this value recovered from $5800 dollars in two days. So irrespective of what the Whales do, we are heading towards the appreciation and since the prices have not gone up enough, we still have a chance to invest.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: rickadone on July 12, 2018, 01:49:16 PM
I think it does not matter because when whales sell a lot of bitcoin, bitcoin prices will go down and this is the right time to buy. prices will rise again after they buy back.
The problem is that people stress and bore themselves for things that are irrelevant and discard what they should even be concentrating more on which is what you just mentioned. If someone wants to dump on the market to cause a huge movement downwards, those who see the long term value that bitcoin brings will definitely not bother about the dumping in a negative way but will see it as a chance to pick at a much lower value. Quite funny that a lot of people really just keep panicking for no reason and looking for ways to actually subject themselves to unnecessary emotions.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Findingnemo on July 12, 2018, 02:28:22 PM
Nothing yet,still bitcoins were hanging at $6000 range for too long so we need to stop pretending that whales were manipulating the prices because really we are the one manipulating it just hold your bitcoins at any cost then only you can see some light into the bitcoin prices.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: stayeduptolate on July 17, 2018, 07:07:04 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
As we all are aware with the conditions of bitcoin now a days, it’s va has been deflated to a very low extent and almost every person is in panic selling of his or her bitcoins and this could be the most important reason for further deflation in the valuation of bitcoin, as we all know that valuation has been most importantly governed by number of investors and most importantly the whales who use to inv st a huge capital in the bitcoin and if they are selling their bitcoins then obviously its valuation will go down.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Burogh on July 17, 2018, 08:51:49 AM
From what i am read, its true that whales from china moving bitcoin from their wallet to an exchanger. Hopely that just a movement from whales and not really selling it.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: zanezane on July 17, 2018, 08:58:16 AM
You guys should be more aware how whales can manipulate the market so you won't be surprise like this. I mean by now you should be all used to this and just follow  whatever the trend and besides if you knew how to get along then you'll probably have a profit later on. And I believe they're planning something bigger for this year.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: leostrong.mo on July 17, 2018, 11:17:38 AM
It is said that the Black Rock Group, the largest asset management company in the United States, has entered Bitcoin! Is the bull market coming?
Previously, Black Rock Group's attitude toward BTC has been lukewarm, they may have mastered some news so they are ready to invest in BTC!


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: gandhe83 on July 30, 2018, 09:06:09 PM
There is a lot of whales in the world of cryptocurrency and for me, i am not surprised if i will see some posts or news that is about the whales that are transferring huge amount of bitcoin to an exchange or dumping it in an exchange because it is a normal activity for me since whales are doing that to manipulate and to see the image that they wanted to see in the market.
The whale's world is nothing but their play. They want to swing the chart, which is not a surprise, and the whale is a forum not just of fish. However, it is also a good opportunity for the market if you know to seize your opportunity to reach the goal.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Digital_Lord on August 03, 2018, 10:45:31 AM
There is a lot of whales in the world of cryptocurrency and for me, i am not surprised if i will see some posts or news that is about the whales that are transferring huge amount of bitcoin to an exchange or dumping it in an exchange because it is a normal activity for me since whales are doing that to manipulate and to see the image that they wanted to see in the market.

There would always be and we cannot avoid them. Most of those who bought a lot back then when it all started sure have a lot in their bag anyway and as time goes on.
However, the idea of monitoring exchanges now for movement of funds is becoming rampant and absurd, considering that alone is now a driving factor for the market. Once the news gets out of a movement of huge amount, you start seeing a huge dump on the market and so on. I wonder how long this would be.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: efxtrader on August 03, 2018, 12:02:44 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

Maybe its true but many rumours in market that we dont have to believe. I think bitcoin price drop because SEC delay ETF approval on september and maybe investor selling their bitcoin. But its just rumours in market.
For me, I am better hold bitcoin as long term investment and i am believe bitcoin will reach $25k end this year


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: buternasek on August 03, 2018, 12:09:56 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
I heard this a few months ago, and a few days after that bitcoin had fallen but not so bad.
does it happen again this time?


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Jembut Ireng on August 03, 2018, 12:16:20 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
A big deal on bitcoin is a natural thing, a year ago I heard people selling up to 100k btc, he sent 100k btc up to hundreds of times, but instead the bitcoin price strengthened and I'm sure he regrets after a month, with a marketcap that already over $ 120bn is the impossible with 8k btc could cause the price drop.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: carlisle1 on August 03, 2018, 12:43:35 PM
Nothing yet,still bitcoins were hanging at $6000 range for too long so we need to stop pretending that whales were manipulating the prices because really we are the one manipulating it just hold your bitcoins at any cost then only you can see some light into the bitcoin prices.
WHAT?just because bitcoin price hangs $6000 price meaning whales has nothing to do with manipulation?remember that those whales can move the price up if they wanted so stop pretending that you know things here.

I am not accusing them literally about manipulating but we can't take this things might happening


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: linesretweetG on August 03, 2018, 12:49:05 PM
Whales are moving this market from years, and they will continue for the incoming ones too.
If you own some THOUSANDS of BTC, You can do whatever you prefer, you can pump it, you can dump it, and always gain from that ;)


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Kemarit on August 03, 2018, 02:45:13 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

Maybe its true but many rumours in market that we dont have to believe. I think bitcoin price drop because SEC delay ETF approval on september and maybe investor selling their bitcoin. But its just rumours in market.
For me, I am better hold bitcoin as long term investment and i am believe bitcoin will reach $25k end this year

I firmly believed that the delay of the news has nothing to do with the recent price decline. Well, FOMO enter and the whales took advantage of the situation and obviously cashing out that started on the 31th of July. But if you are a long term holder, you don't have to worry with this sort of manipulation, because sooner or later no amount of manipulation can stop investors pouring cash on the market again, we have witnessed this before. Perhaps this is just a price correlation because the price suddenly spike from the last bottom and then went past $8000 in about a week or so, now traders are simply cashing it out to make profits.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: hannahboy on August 04, 2018, 07:32:37 AM
Whales are moving this market from years, and they will continue for the incoming ones too.
If you own some THOUSANDS of BTC, You can do whatever you prefer, you can pump it, you can dump it, and always gain from that ;)
Whenever there is a big movement in the market, it is only due to whales. No ordinary person can make such big buying which boost the prices. If we follow the charts of Bitcoin we can see very clearly when the big pump comes and it happen with 15 to 30 mins.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: henlity87 on August 07, 2018, 06:57:13 AM
Whales are moving this market from years, and they will continue for the incoming ones too.
If you own some THOUSANDS of BTC, You can do whatever you prefer, you can pump it, you can dump it, and always gain from that ;)
So there are whales who plans and then pump or dump the price of bitcoin to their benefit.
If we, the Ordinary persons, can predict correctly the whales next move, we can surely get good profit from it.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Riddikulo on August 07, 2018, 02:56:22 PM
Whales are moving this market from years, and they will continue for the incoming ones too.
If you own some THOUSANDS of BTC, You can do whatever you prefer, you can pump it, you can dump it, and always gain from that ;)

The whales can do whatever they want. These are the richest people that have concentrated over 90% of Bitcoins in their hands. Yes, their activities always affect the market, and we cannot change this situation.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: marlo1001 on August 23, 2018, 10:54:34 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
8K Bitcoins is not that big man in terms of whales business, so probably it does not affect the price overall. The fact is those guys are having so much more money than we do.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: justspare on August 23, 2018, 12:38:16 PM
I only heard someone transfering 80,000 bitcoins today, ready to sell, not the behavior of the exchange, it is a personal address, so be careful.
Guys like you who talk like this just for the purpose of trying to increase your post count sucks. Let us even assume what you are saying is for real, what proof do you have it is a personal address and not an exchange address, and what gives you the assurance that this person is ready to dump on the market except for the fact that you feel passing FUD is easier for your post count. At least, next time you want to share something like this, drop the proof if you ever want anyone to take you serious.

Market is Volatile, anything can happened at any given time at the market trading, Movement of 8k of Bitcoin is just a fraction of the volume of trading investment in Bitcoin, this does not affect in any way or what so ever on the price value of Bitcoin, there are a lot of indicators that contribute to the price movement, like, the issue on Scammer, Banned, Hacking, and the never ending issue on Regulation, not to mention the market trends, market structure, over all situation of the market.
Yes, the volatility of the market is what makes it easy for the response of bitcoin movement to cause panic easily with a quick dump which I am not surprised anyway since the news of the MtGox guy went flying around. It all balls down to FUD anyway and there is nothing at this stage we can do about it. The market is bound to have a huge correction and all these ones are just some quick driving factor to see it go lower and faster.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: cryptoalfs76 on August 23, 2018, 01:09:02 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

Actualy we have  no strong evidence to determine thats those big whales are the one manipulating to make the market price moved to $8K thats makes the now going down in addition of stop losses being triggered,because all of this only a speculation coming out into our mind,maybe we can say its true or not,the only things we should hope thats all this chaos in crypto will resolve soon and hoping thats bullish market would happen now,so thats the vision of market price will grow and all crypto coins would pump back its circulation.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: RockBar0 on August 23, 2018, 07:16:37 PM
Whales are moving this market from years, and they will continue for the incoming ones too.
If you own some THOUSANDS of BTC, You can do whatever you prefer, you can pump it, you can dump it, and always gain from that ;)

The whales can do whatever they want. These are the richest people that have concentrated over 90% of Bitcoins in their hands. Yes, their activities always affect the market, and we cannot change this situation.
This is obvious because they have the right to do it. The actions affect the market, most whales do. Then the fry are also eaten. I hope these whales should help something for the society. It is very precious and respectful.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: brukva on August 27, 2018, 11:22:08 AM
I always felt that the more people sell their coins, the more the price decreases.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: BorisVirla on August 27, 2018, 11:34:18 AM
Maybe it's just a coincidence, but maybe there is a relationship between withdrawing money and lowering the price.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Dodongbtc111 on August 27, 2018, 11:50:21 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

Definitely, the whale movement can be served as the hazard of cryptocurrency market for it to give doubt to investors who are trusting it's capability. This is a serious problem that need a quick remedy.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: VBCryp@ on August 28, 2018, 09:39:57 AM
In the cryptographic market, the price of coins is constantly increasing, so it is not natural that they are all set by an organization, so we are small investors. patiently waiting.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: calya on August 28, 2018, 12:13:46 PM
In the cryptographic market, the price of coins is constantly increasing, so it is not natural that they are all set by an organization, so we are small investors. patiently waiting.
and maybe today is resurrection cryptomarket.and that news not affected into cryptomarket, even after sec reject etf market still stable.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Vzae on August 28, 2018, 04:32:35 PM
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered. Is that true?
A whale that moves bitcoin from a private wallet to wallet exchange will not affect the price of bitcoin.
But if the issue says that a whale moves its bitcoin by 8K to the exchange, it will cause fud and make everyone panic sell. And that will make the price fall in.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 28, 2018, 04:35:11 PM
But if the issue says that a whale moves its bitcoin by 8K to the exchange, it will cause fud and make everyone panic sell. And that will make the price fall in.
Eh, I don't think so.  Yes, it's a big amount of bitcoin but I don't think it was enough for people to lose their minds over--this thread might as well be 10 years old at this point.  I'm not even sure if that amount of btc was dumped on the market all at once if it would be enough to cause a dip, let alone a crash.

I'd be curious to read some updates about this, and whether that bitcoin was sold or not.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: erominer on August 28, 2018, 08:22:45 PM
maybe true maybe not, regardless what these news may bring is that we are not sure yet what price btc will be siiting in for the next years.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: pocketfullofpoke on August 29, 2018, 05:34:56 AM
I haven't read any news/events regarding the culprit of bitcoin's fall over the past couple of months but if that is really true, moving an 8K is really a huge volume of bitcoin. I am not surprise anymore if whale/s do contribute the movement of bitcoin and cryptomarket's condition.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: hawkins on August 29, 2018, 08:13:29 AM
I haven't read any news/events regarding the culprit of bitcoin's fall over the past couple of months but if that is really true, moving an 8K is really a huge volume of bitcoin. I am not surprise anymore if whale/s do contribute the movement of bitcoin and cryptomarket's condition.
well, for now the price of bitcoin arrived at a price of $ 7k, but it looks like this price is really at the end. well, if the price goes up to the price of $ 8k, of course this will be a good increase. maybe the price of $ 7k will become more stable if the price reaches $7500.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: spongegar on August 30, 2018, 04:46:11 AM
I don't know if it is true or not. But 8k Bitcoins pumped them dumped is really destructive on an unregulated matket suxh as crypto currency. This could really plunge the market downwards, but then again imagining a millionaire juat staring at the trade screen and waiting for the right time to dump is unthinkable.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: OrangeII on August 30, 2018, 05:13:40 AM
I don't know if it is true or not. But 8k Bitcoins pumped them dumped is really destructive on an unregulated matket suxh as crypto currency. This could really plunge the market downwards, but then again imagining a millionaire juat staring at the trade screen and waiting for the right time to dump is unthinkable.
for now, bitcoin prices may be adjusting prices to stabilize at a price of $ 7k. well, we know that bitcoin has just arrived at that price, surely many people will think of selling assets they have.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: crypto90 on August 30, 2018, 05:39:28 AM
Normaly if someone moved a segnificant amount of btc to an exchamge should not affect in any way the market. However if people saw the transaction or heard rumors about that, could have panicked thinking that someone is preparing to sell 8k btc on a singal market what could crash the price, and because of that those ppl started selling. That panic might have done a lot more damage to the market then the sell of the 8k alone. But tbh I dom't think it was none of the above.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: renggileh on August 30, 2018, 07:11:02 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
I think the biggest turtle fish out there is the brother of Winklevos who owns 1% of the amount of bitcoin available.
is it possible they have caused the market to fall.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: prokerduit on August 30, 2018, 07:16:10 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

yes I am also very worried about the situation now and what I know is just an issue because there is no evidence that can actually support it. and about the news the market is experiencing a downturn is about BTC being audited by the agency if this agency permits BTC then BTC and other prices will soar but gold stock markets or others will go down that's why the agency is considering it first that makes crypto market drastically dropped.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Idrisu on August 30, 2018, 07:39:13 AM
Manipulation is allow in this market and a whale selling 8,000 is insignificant to bring bitcoin price down as many have speculated. But I doubt if this is truth and we need to know that exchangers are manipulating the market too.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: melch100 on August 30, 2018, 07:43:46 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

yes I am also very worried about the situation now and what I know is just an issue because there is no evidence that can actually support it. and about the news the market is experiencing a downturn is about BTC being audited by the agency if this agency permits BTC then BTC and other prices will soar but gold stock markets or others will go down that's why the agency is considering it first that makes crypto market drastically dropped.

I am not sure, but do we think that this agency can affect bitcoin wether they approve it or not? But I do agree that whales affects the price and current status of bitcoin now.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: pumbum on August 31, 2018, 03:38:21 PM
I think it is not necessary to monitor large transactions, because in both cases there is a buyer and seller, and everyone treats this event as it is profitable)


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Portia12 on August 31, 2018, 04:52:27 PM
I don't know if it is true or not. But 8k Bitcoins pumped them dumped is really destructive on an unregulated matket suxh as crypto currency. This could really plunge the market downwards, but then again imagining a millionaire juat staring at the trade screen and waiting for the right time to dump is unthinkable.
for now, bitcoin prices may be adjusting prices to stabilize at a price of $ 7k. well, we know that bitcoin has just arrived at that price, surely many people will think of selling assets they have.

The market is volatile so it was normal for the price to dump or pump depending on the demand and supply, just keep on holding your coins till the market starts to rise again in order to earn profit.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: @Mhaiang on September 16, 2018, 09:58:43 AM
I do believe that a whale can affect bitcoin's market price when it moved its bitcoin holding. A quantity of 8k btc may only be a small quantity to others who have tens of thousands of it or even hundreds of thousands. I believe, they were also the early believers of bitcoin who invest bitcoin when it was just below 1$.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: maarx on September 16, 2018, 11:38:47 AM
I don't know whether is true or not, but this fluctuations are common in the crypto world. This pump and dump happens in the market so don't get panic just hold the coins and once the market starts to recover you can sell and see the good income. The pump and dump occurs mainly due to the demand and circulation of the coins in the market. When the wales are into the market, they invest and make the crypto circulate around the market. This would increase the coin value.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: btc78 on September 25, 2018, 10:53:45 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

Where did you hear this?AN obvious hearsay mate?

But even if whales move this large volume still price only has a small movement but have recovered on just a weeks so this means only one thing,that we are sufficient in supporting the market even this manipulator’s is active doing this movrs


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: pinoyden on September 25, 2018, 11:06:05 AM
True or not . whales are powerful and 8k btc is too little for them but if someone moves 8k btc , then we can easily expect a major change on the price which can lead to advantage and disadvantage depending on the status of the person .

A whale that moves bitcoin from a private wallet to wallet exchange will not affect the price of bitcoin.
But if the issue says that a whale moves its bitcoin by 8K to the exchange, it will cause fud and make everyone panic sell. And that will make the price fall in.

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A whale that moves bitcoin from a private wallet to wallet exchange will not affect the price of bitcoin.

Why not? If they only move a small amount .  but whales are known to be powerful and they will only buy or sell in a large portion .

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if the issue says that a whale moves its bitcoin by 8K to the exchange, it will cause fud and make everyone panic sell. And that will make the price fall in.

That will also depend on the person . not all person will panic , especiall me because im not an investor and im not also a hodler .  in short im only neutral , so whatever happens on the status of the cryptos , i will still be calm.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Helpme_please on September 25, 2018, 12:20:46 PM
I do believe that a whale can affect bitcoin's market price when it moved its bitcoin holding. A quantity of 8k btc may only be a small quantity to others who have tens of thousands of it or even hundreds of thousands. I believe, they were also the early believers of bitcoin who invest bitcoin when it was just below 1$.
although give small impact but, it could make investor panic.they affraid if massive dump happen again in cryptocurrency market.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: spiker777 on September 25, 2018, 06:41:52 PM
Just because large amounts of bitcoin are moved around doesn't necessarily mean that there is going to be a huge selloff. These whales know that selling off such a large amount all in one go would cause a huge market crash, so it would be much smarter for them to trickle it onto the market and preserve its value, even if it does take a lot longer to complete.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: nicster551 on October 08, 2018, 02:00:30 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

I can't be done, but I know that whale made a way to make the price of Bitcoin to 8k. It has to do with manipulation in order for them to make people buy and buy so for that the price went that way.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: trako on October 08, 2018, 02:35:06 PM
Yes true. bitcoin has gained value over the last few years. It was not so expensive to get in advance thousands. so there is no need to go too far into the past.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: onrise on October 08, 2018, 02:55:37 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

I can't be done, but I know that whale made a way to make the price of Bitcoin to 8k. It has to do with manipulation in order for them to make people buy and buy so for that the price went that way.

It could be quite possible because the big whales can make or break the price as they have huge quantity of coins and due to buy/sell of their coin the market can get hugely effected and thus we need to also be stay cautious as it can effect our portfolio as well.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: rizkyhiw on October 08, 2018, 03:59:34 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
if this is true there is a pope who moves up to 8K bitcoin and tries to sell it, it is not impossible this is one factor in the market decline. demand that has less impact on the market decline. we must be able to handle this with. increase the hold rate or better buyback to reduce the least decrease.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: wozzek23 on October 11, 2018, 10:30:07 AM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
If you’re still getting to know that the price of Bitcoin is manipulated, then you’re still starting. We already knows that cryptocurrency can be manipulated by anyone as long as they have what it takes. Some people even go ahead to join pump groups in name of making profit from their investments. I believe what these people do is gather money in their group and then invest it to pump price, after that they withdraw it and share among themselves.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Vinz1978 on October 22, 2018, 01:37:15 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

How I wish that it could happen to increase to 8k$, but unfortunately the present value of bitcoin now was 6600 plus, which is still not
good I think. I also don't know how long will I need to wait more before the bull run comes. It is almost less than year that I had been waiting for the bullish season. Those whale manipulators is becoming unfair for the ordinary traders like us on this manner I think.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: ivanst776 on October 29, 2018, 01:13:20 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

How I wish that it could happen to increase to 8k$, but unfortunately the present value of bitcoin now was 6600 plus, which is still not
good I think. I also don't know how long will I need to wait more before the bull run comes. It is almost less than year that I had been waiting for the bullish season. Those whale manipulators is becoming unfair for the ordinary traders like us on this manner I think.

Whales are whales! they are just some ordinary (some of them) but now look at them
They want to protect what they have now and if possible bags more.
Of course that they can put a big amount on the wall and get what they want.
Props to them is they believe earlier than us. so i am saying this is their privilege now.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: sinkfish on October 29, 2018, 02:49:23 PM
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?

The act of moving a large number of bitcoins to an exchange won't affect the price any more than moving them anywhere else. However, some people may panic and sell because they believe that the "whale" is about to sell the entire amount, and that can drive the price down.

If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

My understanding of manipulation is that it is the attempt to change the outcome of a future trade. As such, a "whale" simply buying or selling large numbers of bitcoins is not manipulation, regardless of the effect on the price. Every trade, no matter how large or small, has an effect on the price.

Manipulation can be done by spreading false or misleading information, or also by affecting the price in one market in order to affect the outcome of a trade in another market.

the ant start panic when the elephant just walking pass by.


Title: Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC?
Post by: Lwtelencio on October 31, 2018, 02:36:12 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.
maybe it will happen but don't directly believe because sometimes it just only a speculation. And if we talked about an speculation there's a big cahnces that it is true or not.