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Title: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 11, 2018, 10:07:20 AM
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Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Fett11 on June 11, 2018, 01:00:40 PM
Hi guys! I’ve participated in ICO that is about arbitrage trading. What are your advantages compared to other similar companies ???


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: EnterTheLight on June 11, 2018, 02:17:54 PM
Honestly, I do believe in arbitrage. I’m interested in the model first of all. Is it ordinary ‘commission way’?
I read through your whitepaper, I appreciate that it’s soooo detailed. You guys made huge work and I want to follow your project for sure.

I found also you mentioned several great exchanges as partners. Does it mean you negotiated some contracts with them? Or just you mean you are going to work with these exchanges?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 11, 2018, 02:49:27 PM
Hi guys! I’ve participated in ICO that is about arbitrage trading. What are your advantages compared to other similar companies ???

You can find a competitor analysis in our ten pager: https://static.arbitao.com/presskit/Arbitao_Ten_Pager.pdf

Main differences:

- tested working product (done)
- the least platform/commission fee (done)
- open for small, medium and big investors (done)
- already working with 19 exchanges (done)
- trades are transparent on the website (done)
- unique infrastructure which reduces latency by up to x100 (partly done)
- built on a dedicated blockchain, not ERC20 (done + improvements coming)
- decentralized contributing of computing power (WIP)
- use your own algorithms for arbitrage (WIP)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: ekavieka on June 11, 2018, 02:57:30 PM
All the best for yout projct and the upcoming ICo. Just sign up in the web, and would love to follow the bounty.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: identifyuser on June 11, 2018, 03:26:43 PM
Arbitao is the second project on crypto-arbitration, which I learned only today. Until that moment, I only knew about the online bot "Apitrade"


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: P3 on June 11, 2018, 06:50:50 PM
Hello Arbitao team.. I haven’t fully understand the idea with open pools. What does it mean??


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: sahabond on June 11, 2018, 07:04:13 PM
Hello Arbitao team.. I haven’t fully understand the idea with open pools. What does it mean??
I bet the idea should be completely clear! If you read at least their 10-pager you may found out the principle ‘the more you inject the more you get’. So users just can unite in a single pool and share the risks and earn more money. It’s definitely the same as with mining pools. Not sure whether I even need to describe it :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: XcalibuRRR on June 11, 2018, 07:32:02 PM
Tell me who are your guys? team members
What exp do u have regarding to trading  ::)
anyway you made nice package. looks good ;) good luck!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: rog1121 on June 11, 2018, 07:53:52 PM
Hello Arbitao team.. I haven’t fully understand the idea with open pools. What does it mean??
I bet the idea should be completely clear! If you read at least their 10-pager you may found out the principle ‘the more you inject the more you get’. So users just can unite in a single pool and share the risks and earn more money. It’s definitely the same as with mining pools. Not sure whether I even need to describe it :)
That’s good BUT! One interesting thing I also found is about initial investors who are already making profits since November 2017.It would be very pleasant to get any evidence.If there are any I would be very happy :) :) ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Paparazek on June 11, 2018, 09:29:27 PM
Seems like a good one! Like your style and whitepaper! Are you going to create a mobile app as well?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: bitbollo on June 11, 2018, 09:40:17 PM
Hi nice platform! Only 22 subscribers on Telegram until now!
By the way how can I set an Username on your platform? Telegram bounty request this information but were I can found it? Referral code could be accepted?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: kimonjol on June 11, 2018, 09:54:28 PM
Hi nice platform! Only 22 subscribers on Telegram until now!
By the way how can I set an Username on your platform? Telegram bounty request this information but were I can found it? Referral code could be accepted?
Please ask you straight in her telegram so that official clearer answers from teamnya. my own are also less familiar with your opinion


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: bitbollo on June 11, 2018, 10:00:01 PM
Hi nice platform! Only 22 subscribers on Telegram until now!
By the way how can I set an Username on your platform? Telegram bounty request this information but were I can found it? Referral code could be accepted?
Please ask you straight in her telegram so that official clearer answers from teamnya. my own are also less familiar with your opinion

Their official channel doesn't admit to send message. There is not admin or pinned post, or any post. But thanks for your interest.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: maAE$tRo$2000 on June 11, 2018, 11:11:20 PM
Hi nice platform! Only 22 subscribers on Telegram until now!
By the way how can I set an Username on your platform? Telegram bounty request this information but were I can found it? Referral code could be accepted?
Please ask you straight in her telegram so that official clearer answers from teamnya. my own are also less familiar with your opinion

Their official channel doesn't admit to send message. There is not admin or pinned post, or any post. But thanks for your interest.

Try this one t.me/arbitaochat
I believe it is just the very start for the great project
I’m not sure but airdrop could bring a lot of new guys

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Btw did I understand correctly that ATAO wallet is available right now? If yes when I could find it


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Zast on June 11, 2018, 11:36:21 PM
How much profit should you earn at least to cover this problem fiat -> bittrex -> binance -> bittrex -> fiat ??? ‘Cause if you cannot do this then arbitrage is meaningless. I realize 2% is just an example, however, I suppose you should have tried to trade like this on your own. Have you got any history?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: GeNer@L on June 12, 2018, 12:28:01 AM
Where would your arbitrage cloud computing machine be located? It’s quite crucial for being successful


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 12, 2018, 10:11:22 AM
How much profit should you earn at least to cover this problem fiat -> bittrex -> binance -> bittrex -> fiat ??? ‘Cause if you cannot do this then arbitrage is meaningless. I realize 2% is just an example, however, I suppose you should have tried to trade like this on your own. Have you got any history?

Hey! Thank you for the interest in the project!
There are more factors to take into consideration! However, for your question the most important are transaction fees. All related costs are included in the algorithm, so trades are just executed when the algorithm gives a positive signal. In this case it depends on the absolute value in order to cover the fees. The trades are also saved in the history, which is used for big data analytics in order to improve the algorithm. This can be checked in the Dashboard (start for history: 16/05/2018). The live feed can be checked on the website. https://www.arbitao.com


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 12, 2018, 10:30:58 AM
Where would your arbitrage cloud computing machine be located? It’s quite crucial for being successful

It's distributed Multi-DC/Cloud infrastructure. Locations were chosen paying special attention to the locations of exchanges, and we co-op with providers which assure performance, efficiency and fast connections. (Amazon, Level3)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YangsT on June 12, 2018, 11:24:58 AM
How much profit should you earn at least to cover this problem fiat -> bittrex -> binance -> bittrex -> fiat ??? ‘Cause if you cannot do this then arbitrage is meaningless. I realize 2% is just an example, however, I suppose you should have tried to trade like this on your own. Have you got any history?

Hey! Thank you for the interest in the project!
There are more factors to take into consideration! However, for your question the most important are transaction fees. All related costs are included in the algorithm, so trades are just executed when the algorithm gives a positive signal. In this case it depends on the absolute value in order to cover the fees. The trades are also saved in the history, which is used for big data analytics in order to improve the algorithm. This can be checked in the Dashboard (start for history: 05/06/2018). The life feed can be checked on the website. https://www.arbitao.com

I think Zast asks exactly for

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the most important are transaction fees

I also wonder what instruments or what strategies do you have to guarantee that the profit exceed commission costs. Or you just cannot guarantee at all, what it reasonable by the way


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 12, 2018, 12:29:32 PM
How much profit should you earn at least to cover this problem fiat -> bittrex -> binance -> bittrex -> fiat ??? ‘Cause if you cannot do this then arbitrage is meaningless. I realize 2% is just an example, however, I suppose you should have tried to trade like this on your own. Have you got any history?

Hey! Thank you for the interest in the project!
There are more factors to take into consideration! However, for your question the most important are trading fees. All related costs are included in the algorithm, so trades are just executed when the algorithm gives a positive signal. In this case it depends on the absolute value in order to cover the fees. The trades are also saved in the history, which is used for big data analytics in order to improve the algorithm. This can be checked in the Dashboard (start for history: 05/06/2018). The life feed can be checked on the website. https://www.arbitao.com

I think Zast asks exactly for

Quote
the most important are transaction fees

I also wonder what instruments or what strategies do you have to guarantee that the profit exceed commission costs. Or you just cannot guarantee at all, what it reasonable by the way


Arbitao as a platform is developed in the way that only the best opportunities among thousands of pairs are chosen. This can be ensured because of the amount of capital on the exchanges. The system takes besides the transaction fees a lot of other factors into consideration in order to guarantee stable profits (96% of the trades are positive). The code is programmed in C++ and we have the servers in Data centers next to the locations of the exchanges. Therefore, it is possible to execute the trades extremely fast.

The fees (deposit, trading, withdrawal) and their structure are different from one exchange to another but are set and clear. Taking the fee amount into consideration, it’s relatively easy to calculate if a particular arbitrage transaction is going to be profitable or not. There’s no element of surprise. By allocating substantial funds to exchanges, we’re able to significantly lower the fees and the number of profitable transactions increases.

The real challenge is to successfully execute a potential trade in the needed time. This is where the risk comes into play. In order to carry out an effective arbitrage transaction, we must conduct two operations on two different exchanges and both must end successfully. If the outcome of either one is not favorable, the transaction is deemed unsuccessful and may end up as a loss.

The network architecture and the speed of application is crucial here, and this is why we have a distributed MultiDC infrastructure and we’re constantly working to improve the algorithm and speed of the application.

I hope this is answering your question.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: mandarinka on June 12, 2018, 04:59:30 PM
hello  :D do you have bounty ??? or airdrop for example  :-*


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 12, 2018, 05:07:14 PM
hello  :D do you have bounty ??? or airdrop for example  :-*

Yes! The Bounty/Airdrop will be announced in a separate thread soon.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: mandarinka on June 12, 2018, 05:36:33 PM
hello  :D do you have bounty ??? or airdrop for example  :-*

Yes! The Bounty/Airdrop will be announced in a separate thread soon.

nice  ;) i can see bounty in your tokens allocation but havent found a thread. could you please announce it here ???


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Copulative on June 12, 2018, 07:11:31 PM
Since cloud operations take place the reasonable question is about the security. Even such great thing like nicehash has been hacked. It’s more likely that professional hackers will be eager to steal some money from the platform with the increase in trading volumes.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Azima85 on June 12, 2018, 07:25:16 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: avtaev.savva on June 12, 2018, 07:50:32 PM
Since cloud operations take place the reasonable question is about the security. Even such great thing like nicehash has been hacked. It’s more likely that professional hackers will be eager to steal some money from the platform with the increase in trading volumes.
ATAO holders can stake their coins in their ATAOwallet,and earn further ATAO’s as a reward for helping to secure the network.
I found the word ‘secure’ so many times but unfortunately didn’t find a description of what does it mean actually


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Kpss_pro on June 12, 2018, 08:08:25 PM
Since cloud operations take place the reasonable question is about the security. Even such great thing like nicehash has been hacked. It’s more likely that professional hackers will be eager to steal some money from the platform with the increase in trading volumes.
Good question sir! What is interesting the part of funds will be spent on the platform security issues(which is quite obvious I suppose) but probably the team doesn’t want to disclose the information. Then we should just believe. It’s almost the same as using any social network as Facebook, e-mail services and etc. You cannot be totally sure that the conversation is indeed between two guys. Even in telegram ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Copulative on June 12, 2018, 08:32:40 PM
Since cloud operations take place the reasonable question is about the security. Even such great thing like nicehash has been hacked. It’s more likely that professional hackers will be eager to steal some money from the platform with the increase in trading volumes.
Good question sir! What is interesting the part of funds will be spent on the platform security issues(which is quite obvious I suppose) but probably the team doesn’t want to disclose the information. Then we should just believe. It’s almost the same as using any social network as Facebook, e-mail services and etc. You cannot be totally sure that the conversation is indeed between two guys. Even in telegram ;)
Of curse! There are two main things to think about. One the one hand they might don’t care a lot because they don’t risk their money. On the other side they should spend more because it about their own reputation and they could earn more being more serious about the security problem. That’s totally about the responsibility.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: TimeTeller on June 12, 2018, 08:42:27 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

How is it different from gstar that I encountered here?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4209418.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4209418.0)
Their development is on the way as they said they have initial funding.
How about this project, do you have seed funds to initiate your developments?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: sahabond on June 12, 2018, 09:27:49 PM
Since cloud operations take place the reasonable question is about the security. Even such great thing like nicehash has been hacked. It’s more likely that professional hackers will be eager to steal some money from the platform with the increase in trading volumes.
ATAO holders can stake their coins in their ATAOwallet,and earn further ATAO’s as a reward for helping to secure the network.
I found the word ‘secure’ so many times but unfortunately didn’t find a description of what does it mean actually

I don’t believe that the team which invested a lot in development of the platform (this I concluded from the work they did) didn’t care about the security as well :) Every platform could be hacked! Every! Anyway would be very pleasant to have more details on it.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: UnIvErS on June 12, 2018, 10:56:45 PM
Hi! Good project! I hope will go to the mooooon!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Vurdalakus on June 12, 2018, 11:40:27 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

How is it different from gstar that I encountered here?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4209418.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4209418.0)
Their development is on the way as they said they have initial funding.
How about this project, do you have seed funds to initiate your developments?

Lots of projects have initial funding, even one of the biggest (telegram).

What do you mean by ‘how is it different’ ? Gstar is also about trading but Arbitao specializes in arbitrage trading. It’s like cross-platform trading which means that the profit comes from buying currency_1 on exchange_1 and selling it on exchange_2.

So the approach is totally different. I tried arbitrage on my own, I cannot say I was successful in fact. I made about 2-3%, no more. I realize that if I had big team, some processes being automatically performed, more funds, I could make much more. That’s why I think arbitao could be really successful. I’m going to join bounty at first when it’s up. MYbe even buy some tokens.

I want to know more about a wallet, because it may become a significant argument in sense of not waiting for the token listed on any exchanges


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: mt55 on June 12, 2018, 11:42:52 PM
I have asked myself if you can build a platform for arbitrage trading and exploit all that potential to make a lot of money for your customers, why don't you just do it yourself and not disclose the code to the public and let them benefit?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Miraculously on June 13, 2018, 01:30:47 AM
I have asked myself if you can build a platform for arbitrage trading and exploit all that potential to make a lot of money for your customers, why don't you just do it yourself and not disclose the code to the public and let them benefit?


It’s all about the numbers.. if you do it on your own you cannot earn such big money. Quite obvious that 10 guys on average have more money than 1 single man. When you have more money in trading you have more flexibility and have more options where to invest, which instrument to buy etc.. you may also lower the risks. You probably cannot do great things on your own because of a huge competitiveness. If you are alone then you must trade against huge companies which understand how to steal money from little investors :) Cooperation here brings lots of advantages. And if you run such a company you do not risk your own money. The idea is not the only thing that brings success


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 13, 2018, 10:39:00 AM
I have asked myself if you can build a platform for arbitrage trading and exploit all that potential to make a lot of money for your customers, why don't you just do it yourself and not disclose the code to the public and let them benefit?

Thank you for your interest. First of all, the arbitrage algorithm will not be public, otherwise the competiors just have to copy paste it and use their own infrastructure. Second, the more capital Arbitao has, the faster it can grow the business. Development, infrastructure etc. is very costly and therefore money is needed. At the end of the day it is a win win situation for the investors and the platform.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: PoornaFaruk on June 13, 2018, 10:57:14 AM
Arbitao makes it possible for small investors to participate in arbitrage trading and earn more profits than they would be able to make if they tried it in on their own. Our automated arbitrage trading platform is accessible through a decentralized cryptocurrency  the Arbitao Coin, which has the symbol ATAO. and it's  gives users access to the Arbitao platform, which allows them to benefit from automated arbitrage trading profits. The coin will also be used as a reward for participation in cloud computing.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: PISTON_1 on June 13, 2018, 11:30:09 AM
Hello. Do you have a telegram chat? I found one but with ~50 users only. Is it yours?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 13, 2018, 12:03:28 PM
Since cloud operations take place the reasonable question is about the security. Even such great thing like nicehash has been hacked. It’s more likely that professional hackers will be eager to steal some money from the platform with the increase in trading volumes.

When it comes to security - security of the funds, which is probably of the most concern for you - most of the assets is going to be in constant circulation and used for arbitrage transactions. It means, that they will be allocated in bulk to a number of exchanges. As a result, we must rely on the security of each and every exchange where the funds are deposited.

For successful arbitrage purposes, we only choose the exchanges of high liquidity and proven reputation which are popular, trustworthy and have been operating for a long time.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 13, 2018, 12:08:09 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

How is it different from gstar that I encountered here?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4209418.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4209418.0)
Their development is on the way as they said they have initial funding.
How about this project, do you have seed funds to initiate your developments?

Based on a quick glance at Gstar, Arbitao and Gstar are two very different projects with different goals. Gstar seems to be a kind of toolset for traders which should improve the trading experience. Arbitao trades for itself focusing exclusively on arbitrage trading techniques. Your participation as an investor adds to the Arbitao’s growth - and we share the profits. We don't equip you with any trading tools, supporting AI, market analysis and so on.

Yes, Arbitao has private investors who helped to accelerate the development of the already working product.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 13, 2018, 12:11:37 PM
Hello. Do you have a telegram chat? I found one but with ~50 users only. Is it yours?

This is the link to the Telegram Chat: https://t.me/arbitaochat

or check our Website and additional Ressources out:
- Website: https://www.arbitao.com
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/arbitao
- Reddit: https://www.arbitao.com/reddit
- Facebook: www.arbitao.com/facebook
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIZ_XhPZhLUR9Z-MphDb0_A
- Announcement: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4455437.0
- Blog: https://blog.arbitao.com/
- All related documents: https://www.arbitao.com/documents


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 13, 2018, 12:44:43 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

The simplest type of an arbitrage transaction is when you buy a certain pair from one exchange and instantaneously sell on another exchange (you need on both exchanges funds). By instantaneously, we mean that there's no transfer of coins (as there’s no need for it) between exchanges to fulfill a particular arbitrage transaction. The goal is to have enough deposited funds on each exchange to fulfill a lot of such transactions without the need to transfer the funds in order to complete those transactions.

The time is of the essence here, so the real challenge we address is to make a quick decision and perform two operation simultaneously. Please see post #21 in this thread.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

You are correct. Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Azima85 on June 13, 2018, 06:25:37 PM

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

You are correct. Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.

Thanks for the response, What does it mean USD equivalent in between? will ATAO have a fixed value for example during the trading time? sorry if it sounds obvious, but this point is not that clear to me..cheers  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Noriman on June 13, 2018, 07:07:54 PM
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Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.

Wait! This info is incredibly hot! What do you mean? What do you mean and where could I find this information? WP?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: thedarkk on June 13, 2018, 07:27:15 PM
Arbitao is the second project in this field, which I know. Well, safety leaves much to be desired, of course, but overall it's not bad.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Noriman on June 13, 2018, 07:53:06 PM
Arbitao is the second project in this field, which I know. Well, safety leaves much to be desired, of course, but overall it's not bad.

Second? I think there are so many of ICOs about trading. The interesting thing is about my previous post. I wish to have more info on it. Really interesting thing regarding to the safety


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Copulative on June 13, 2018, 07:59:09 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

How is it different from gstar that I encountered here?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4209418.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4209418.0)
Their development is on the way as they said they have initial funding.
How about this project, do you have seed funds to initiate your developments?

Based on a quick glance at Gstar, Arbitao and Gstar are two very different projects with different goals. Gstar seems to be a kind of toolset for traders which should improve the trading experience. Arbitao trades for itself focusing exclusively on arbitrage trading techniques. Your participation as an investor adds to the Arbitao’s growth - and we share the profits. We don't equip you with any trading tools, supporting AI, market analysis and so on.

Yes, Arbitao has private investors who helped to accelerate the development.
Are you going to introduce any instruments that could help to improve trading skills ??? :D
By the way, based on this statement and review of gstar, are you going to let the users participate in decision making process? In a way of competition eg?
Or you only consider automatic machine calculations?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: onnz423 on June 13, 2018, 09:20:53 PM
It's been a long time since I've seen a well designed ANN thread like this one. This really does look like a serious project, great design, working product and excellent team, seems like this one is a shoe-in for success. Having looked at your website, it doesn't appear that the bounty portal is setup yet? Or will you be running it via a separate bounty thread? In any case, this looks like a great project and I will be following along closely.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: DyxLEzz on June 13, 2018, 09:42:29 PM
It's been a long time since I've seen a well designed ANN thread like this one. This really does look like a serious project, great design, working product and excellent team, seems like this one is a shoe-in for success. Having looked at your website, it doesn't appear that the bounty portal is setup yet? Or will you be running it via a separate bounty thread? In any case, this looks like a great project and I will be following along closely.

Agree! Very serious team and beautiful design. From the early replies I found that they are going to create and announce separate bounty thread. As for me airdrop is more suitable, but doesn’t matter at all. I mined some zcash, probably I should change them at first if it’s not possible to invest with my coins.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: ashuawei on June 13, 2018, 10:34:16 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

The simplest type of an arbitrage transaction is when you buy a certain pair from one exchange and instantaneously sell on another exchange (you need on both exchanges funds). By instantaneously, we mean that there's no transfer of coins (as there’s no need for it) between exchanges to fulfill a particular arbitrage transaction. The goal is to have enough deposited funds on each exchanger to fulfill a lot of such transactions without the need to transfer the funds in order to complete those transactions.

The time is of the essence here, so the real challenge we address is to make a quick decision and perform two operation simultaneously. Please see post #21 in this thread.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

You are correct. Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.

That's very impressive idea, guaranteed stable profit is what were are aiming for every traders and investors.  Knowing this kind of very realistic and profitable trading investment will surely create a big market for the coming months.  Continue to be active on the thread (dev team)  to satisfy the potential investors and traders queries. I have one question, will still both parties gain profit if the market is dump?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: dddudidd on June 13, 2018, 10:49:40 PM
How much profit should you earn at least to cover this problem fiat -> bittrex -> binance -> bittrex -> fiat ??? ‘Cause if you cannot do this then arbitrage is meaningless. I realize 2% is just an example, however, I suppose you should have tried to trade like this on your own. Have you got any history?

Hey! Thank you for the interest in the project!
There are more factors to take into consideration! However, for your question the most important are transaction fees. All related costs are included in the algorithm, so trades are just executed when the algorithm gives a positive signal. In this case it depends on the absolute value in order to cover the fees. The trades are also saved in the history, which is used for big data analytics in order to improve the algorithm. This can be checked in the Dashboard (start for history: 16/05/2018). The live feed can be checked on the website. https://www.arbitao.com
I agree with you, I as a trader in some markets is more prioritize transaction costs, if transaction costs are cheaper I think more and more consumers will enter in the market


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: sahabond on June 14, 2018, 12:55:48 AM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

The simplest type of an arbitrage transaction is when you buy a certain pair from one exchange and instantaneously sell on another exchange (you need on both exchanges funds). By instantaneously, we mean that there's no transfer of coins (as there’s no need for it) between exchanges to fulfill a particular arbitrage transaction. The goal is to have enough deposited funds on each exchanger to fulfill a lot of such transactions without the need to transfer the funds in order to complete those transactions.

The time is of the essence here, so the real challenge we address is to make a quick decision and perform two operation simultaneously. Please see post #21 in this thread.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

You are correct. Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.
How the funds will likely be distributed among all the exchanges? So actually you mean that buy-sell will occur on every exchange independently?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 14, 2018, 02:30:28 PM

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

You are correct. Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.

Thanks for the response, What does it mean USD equivalent in between? will ATAO have a fixed value for example during the trading time? sorry if it sounds obvious, but this point is not that clear to me..cheers  :)

Let's say that you invest 1000 ATAO (which is 100 USD) for 240 days on the Arbitao platform (Bronze pool). Your daily interest rate, based on our historical performance, should be approx. 0.5%. Those daily interest are booked in USD on your account. The earned USD you can convert to ATAO and withdraw to your wallet or exchange it to BTC on the exchange. This is why I called it "USD in between".

It's necessary because USD is a stable currency in comparison to cryptocurrencies, and such an approach is working as a security measure both for you and the platform.

If during the investment period (240 days) the crypto market goes significantly down or up, your initial investment plus the daily interest will not be effected as it is secured in USD. You will always receive stable profits.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 14, 2018, 03:00:08 PM
Quote
Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.

Wait! This info is incredibly hot! What do you mean? What do you mean and where could I find this information? WP?

Arbitao is securing the profits in USD in order to protect the customers from volatilities. You can find the full answer in Comment #45 or read about it on the website https://www.arbitao.com in the “Why do we secure profits in USD?”


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 14, 2018, 03:01:58 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

How is it different from gstar that I encountered here?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4209418.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4209418.0)
Their development is on the way as they said they have initial funding.
How about this project, do you have seed funds to initiate your developments?

Based on a quick glance at Gstar, Arbitao and Gstar are two very different projects with different goals. Gstar seems to be a kind of toolset for traders which should improve the trading experience. Arbitao trades for itself focusing exclusively on arbitrage trading techniques. Your participation as an investor adds to the Arbitao’s growth - and we share the profits. We don't equip you with any trading tools, supporting AI, market analysis and so on.

Yes, Arbitao has private investors who helped to accelerate the development.
Are you going to introduce any instruments that could help to improve trading skills ??? :D


No, Arbitao will not introduce any instruments for trading skill improvement, because it is not a trading platform. Arbitao is spotting arbitrage opportunities and executes them automatically. So users of the platform are benefiting of the automated arbitrage system, which is generating daily profits. On the other hand, the collected funds will be also used for the expansion of the Arbitao business.

The comparison between Gstar and Arbitao is not appropriate, as they are two different products. Arbitao is an automated arbitrage trading platform. This means that arbitrage opportunities are automatically spotted and executed. The user does not have to make any decision on which trade has to be executed. There is also no competition between the users. We are trading as a community.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 14, 2018, 03:03:55 PM
It's been a long time since I've seen a well designed ANN thread like this one. This really does look like a serious project, great design, working product and excellent team, seems like this one is a shoe-in for success. Having looked at your website, it doesn't appear that the bounty portal is setup yet? Or will you be running it via a separate bounty thread? In any case, this looks like a great project and I will be following along closely.

Thank you annz423 for the comment. The Bounty will be announced in a separate thread. Currently Arbitao is setting up administrative stuff for it in order to guarantee that all Bounty participants will receive their Coins.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 14, 2018, 03:04:38 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

The simplest type of an arbitrage transaction is when you buy a certain pair from one exchange and instantaneously sell on another exchange (you need on both exchanges funds). By instantaneously, we mean that there's no transfer of coins (as there’s no need for it) between exchanges to fulfill a particular arbitrage transaction. The goal is to have enough deposited funds on each exchanger to fulfill a lot of such transactions without the need to transfer the funds in order to complete those transactions.

The time is of the essence here, so the real challenge we address is to make a quick decision and perform two operation simultaneously. Please see post #21 in this thread.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

You are correct. Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.
How the funds will likely be distributed among all the exchanges? So actually you mean that buy-sell will occur on every exchange independently?

Arbitao will use approximately 80% of the funds for the 10 biggest exchanges and 20% of the funds for the rest. Exactly, the buy-sell will occur on every exchange independently. And from time to time the algorithm is rebalancing the funds of the exchanges. Therefore, we just have to cover the trading fee for the arbitrage trades and for rebalancing the withdrawal/deposit fee. But the rebalancing is not occurring as often as the trades. This means that we are cutting fees as much as possible.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: EnterTheLight on June 14, 2018, 04:08:46 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

The simplest type of an arbitrage transaction is when you buy a certain pair from one exchange and instantaneously sell on another exchange (you need on both exchanges funds). By instantaneously, we mean that there's no transfer of coins (as there’s no need for it) between exchanges to fulfill a particular arbitrage transaction. The goal is to have enough deposited funds on each exchanger to fulfill a lot of such transactions without the need to transfer the funds in order to complete those transactions.

The time is of the essence here, so the real challenge we address is to make a quick decision and perform two operation simultaneously. Please see post #21 in this thread.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

You are correct. Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.
How the funds will likely be distributed among all the exchanges? So actually you mean that buy-sell will occur on every exchange independently?

Arbitao will use approximately 80% of the funds for the 10 biggest exchanges and 20% of the funds for the rest. Exactly, the buy-sell will occur on every exchange independently. And from time to time the algorithm is rebalancing the funds of the exchanges. Therefore, we just have to cover the trading fee for the arbitrage trades and for rebalancing the withdrawal/deposit fee. But the rebalancing is not occurring as often as the trades. This means that we are cutting fees as much as possible.

This allocation is reasonable. I would like to try this strategy by myself, but it needs much more investing than ordinary trading. That’s why I liked your platform and probably going to participate.

However, I wonder if it would be possible to estimate my profit. Would be also nice if you had smth like a calculator that could help to predict it approximately :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 14, 2018, 05:17:58 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

The simplest type of an arbitrage transaction is when you buy a certain pair from one exchange and instantaneously sell on another exchange (you need on both exchanges funds). By instantaneously, we mean that there's no transfer of coins (as there’s no need for it) between exchanges to fulfill a particular arbitrage transaction. The goal is to have enough deposited funds on each exchanger to fulfill a lot of such transactions without the need to transfer the funds in order to complete those transactions.

The time is of the essence here, so the real challenge we address is to make a quick decision and perform two operation simultaneously. Please see post #21 in this thread.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

You are correct. Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.
How the funds will likely be distributed among all the exchanges? So actually you mean that buy-sell will occur on every exchange independently?

Arbitao will use approximately 80% of the funds for the 10 biggest exchanges and 20% of the funds for the rest. Exactly, the buy-sell will occur on every exchange independently. And from time to time the algorithm is rebalancing the funds of the exchanges. Therefore, we just have to cover the trading fee for the arbitrage trades and for rebalancing the withdrawal/deposit fee. But the rebalancing is not occurring as often as the trades. This means that we are cutting fees as much as possible.

This allocation is reasonable. I would like to try this strategy by myself, but it needs much more investing than ordinary trading. That’s why I liked your platform and probably going to participate.

However, I wonder if it would be possible to estimate my profit. Would be also nice if you had smth like a calculator that could help to predict it approximately :)

You can find the Profit Calculator on the website: https://www.arbitao.com/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: maaldaz on June 14, 2018, 05:56:06 PM
The idea of arbitrage trading sound interesting, this way we could get more actual price and faster price update.
It can give us quicker time to decide which coins can be trade first.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Kevala on June 14, 2018, 06:30:36 PM
Very interesting concept.and I must say I am pretty impressed..Good luck with your project


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 14, 2018, 07:11:56 PM
Hi, can you explain a little how the trading process go? you buy a certain pair from one exchange, and then sell on another? but how does the algorithm take into account the transaction time from one exchange to another for example, especially in cases where the margin is too small, that it might turn into a negative trade while waiting for the transaction from 1 exchange to another.

The simplest type of an arbitrage transaction is when you buy a certain pair from one exchange and instantaneously sell on another exchange (you need on both exchanges funds). By instantaneously, we mean that there's no transfer of coins (as there’s no need for it) between exchanges to fulfill a particular arbitrage transaction. The goal is to have enough deposited funds on each exchanger to fulfill a lot of such transactions without the need to transfer the funds in order to complete those transactions.

The time is of the essence here, so the real challenge we address is to make a quick decision and perform two operation simultaneously. Please see post #21 in this thread.

Also, just to confirm, the investor allocates a certain amount of ATAO and then receives profits also in ATAO, and then can exchange ATAO for BTC on TaoX exchange, correct?

You are correct. Please note, that there's USD equivalent in between, added as a security layer for both parties as cryptocurrency market is quite volatile and through this system Arbitao is able to guarantee stable profits to the customer and does not have to take over the volatility risk.

That's very impressive idea, guaranteed stable profit is what were are aiming for every traders and investors.  Knowing this kind of very realistic and profitable trading investment will surely create a big market for the coming months.  Continue to be active on the thread (dev team)  to satisfy the potential investors and traders queries. I have one question, will still both parties gain profit if the market is dump?

Yes, as we do not speculate on prices. We are exploiting the spreads between exchanges. Furthermore, a certain amount of the funds is stored on few different exchanges, which are traded with certain margins in order to hedge the arbitrage pool capital. With this system Arbitao can ensure that even when the market drops and the value of the arbitrage pool decreases, the loss will be covered by hedging.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: obulynin on June 14, 2018, 07:54:38 PM
 In recent years, the cryptocurrency has started to develop very strongly. As for me, the trader arbitao is the most reliable, because trading is automatic, which allows me to get a good profit.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: armchair-84 on June 14, 2018, 08:56:59 PM
Guys, I have a question, if I ever make money, how much will the Commission for the transaction? and how soon will the funds go to the wallet?I know a lot of blockchain platforms, but all commissions are different.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: mandarinka on June 14, 2018, 09:00:27 PM
hey :) interestingly, there are 4 types of pools for investors: bronze, silver, gold and platinum and i can choose the right pool for me . if i understood correctly, the larger my investment, the shorter the term for which the capital is placed


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Paparazek on June 14, 2018, 09:05:05 PM
hey :) interestingly, there are 4 types of pools for investors: bronze, silver, gold and platinum and i can choose the right pool for me . if i understood correctly, the larger my investment, the shorter the term for which the capital is placed
But I wonder why profit in dollars? After all, the prices of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are growing, I have long been watching the course and how is it better for me


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: CeNaToP on June 14, 2018, 09:11:14 PM
hey :) interestingly, there are 4 types of pools for investors: bronze, silver, gold and platinum and i can choose the right pool for me . if i understood correctly, the larger my investment, the shorter the term for which the capital is placed
But I wonder why profit in dollars? After all, the prices of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are growing, I have long been watching the course and how is it better for me
Hi, I don't agree with you here. The price of cryptocurrencies is constantly changing. And dollars have been stable lately.I think here everything is thought out when you withdraw funds, they will be converted from U.S. dollar ATAO using the current exchange rate on TAOx and the average price of bitcoin US dollar


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: GOZIC on June 14, 2018, 09:16:47 PM
I am interested to know what atao coins are used for,I mean what they are intended for and how long the sale will last. If I buy them at a discount now, how long can I keep them in my wallet, there's a chance I can sell them at a higher price


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: DyxLEzz on June 14, 2018, 09:21:15 PM
I am interested to know what atao coins are used for,I mean what they are intended for and how long the sale will last. If I buy them at a discount now, how long can I keep them in my wallet, there's a chance I can sell them at a higher price
Hello, coins ATAO is designed for trading platform Arbitao.The coin holder can use the function of cloud computing ATAOwallet to find the best chain arbitration in the multidimensional room.You can learn more on the official website


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Tiamel on June 14, 2018, 09:27:30 PM
I am interested to know what atao coins are used for,I mean what they are intended for and how long the sale will last. If I buy them at a discount now, how long can I keep them in my wallet, there's a chance I can sell them at a higher price

Do you mean the time arbitao will be listed anywhere? But actually you can keep you coins as long as you want to  ;D ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Garag on June 14, 2018, 09:34:22 PM
Tell me how many coins you want to collect? What is the minimum amount for investments, I do not have a lot of money, but I really want to help the development of the project, how soon the discount for the purchase of atao tokens will end and how the coins will be distributed among the participants


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: sahabond on June 14, 2018, 11:15:21 PM
Guys, I have a question, if I ever make money, how much will the Commission for the transaction? and how soon will the funds go to the wallet?I know a lot of blockchain platforms, but all commissions are different.
Hi, transaction fees are significantly lower than others blockchains. Currently, transactions on the blockchain are about 0,0001 ATAO. It is very accessible. the user must have a complete a wallet node, such as ATAOWallet, that loads all blockchain data, that is, the history of all transactions from the beginning


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Copulative on June 15, 2018, 12:30:01 AM
In recent years, the cryptocurrency has started to develop very strongly. As for me, the trader arbitao is the most reliable, because trading is automatic, which allows me to get a good profit.
Here I with you completely agree. It brings me money without much risk, more and more cryptocurrencies are appearing in the market. Currently, more and more cryptocurrency exchanges are being created.But I think that arbitao has no competitors at the moment


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: yaroslava.pryanchikova on June 15, 2018, 12:39:31 AM
I would like to know how to trade and make a profit, if some secret of success, I'm new to this and want to know as much as possible where I can find detailed information or contact someone who has long been versed in this and makes good money.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: rog1121 on June 15, 2018, 01:59:01 AM
How did the idea of creating such a large-scale project? I want to invest and would like to know how soon I will be able to get profit from it, whether there are any discounts for investors. I like the ideas of cryptocurrency and I believe this is our future


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: boris0148 on June 15, 2018, 02:58:11 AM
Sorry, maybe I'm asking a stupid question, but I need to know, is your platform legal? and I would like to know all payments occur immediately or after some time. Now it is so difficult to find a really worthwhile platform, but after reading the information on the site I see that the team is perfect and I think there should be no doubt.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Biscults on June 15, 2018, 03:04:47 AM
Now this sounds like a really cool trading platform, if it comes to fruition that is. Good luck


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: mediocre777 on June 15, 2018, 03:09:26 AM
Just came across your project on the Internet and would like to know how I can make a profit except trading, for me it is a big risk to lose money if I make a few ETH how soon I can get profit from it?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Bitcoinmeetups.org on June 15, 2018, 04:19:28 AM
Good morning,

How are you?

Interesting project. I tried to sign up on the website but I get a verification error every time I try to sign in.

Also, the link on your website to your Telegram Group is not working and just redirects to the Telegram Channel.

Following this project.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 15, 2018, 08:36:23 AM
Interesting project. I tried to sign up on the website but I get a verification error every time I try to sign in.

Thanks for the feedback, we will follow up to resolve this asap. I sent you a direct message.
New signups are working in general, I'm sorry you encountered a problem.

Also, the link on your website to your Telegram Group is not working and just redirects to the Telegram Channel.

The Telegram group is here: https://t.me/arbitaochat


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: dung136 on June 15, 2018, 08:41:55 AM
Interesting project. I tried to sign up on the website but I get a verification error every time I try to sign in.

Thanks for the feedback, we will follow up to resolve this asap. I sent you a direct message.
New signups are working in general, I'm sorry you encountered a problem.

Also, the link on your website to your Telegram Group is not working and just redirects to the Telegram Channel.

The Telegram group is here: https://t.me/arbitaochat
Can I join the Arbitao signature campaign, dev?
Please help me link to apply and codes of Arbitao signature.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 15, 2018, 09:35:31 AM
Guys, I have a question, if I ever make money, how much will the Commission for the transaction? and how soon will the funds go to the wallet?I know a lot of blockchain platforms, but all commissions are different.

Hi armchair-84, I'm not sure what you mean with commission? Nothing is charged when you withdraw ATAO from your dashboard to your wallet, except for the blockchain transaction fee, which is very low due to the nature of our PoS consensus mechanism. And for the same reason, it happens in seconds, much faster than Bitcoin.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: incryptico on June 15, 2018, 09:44:02 AM
Hello there!

Will the funds be distributed among different exchanges and only the sum of the different portfolios shown to platform users?

I mean, you won't physically transfer the funds between exchanges for every trade and waste precious commissions and time, will you? :)

Thanks for the answer!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 15, 2018, 09:56:46 AM
hey :) interestingly, there are 4 types of pools for investors: bronze, silver, gold and platinum and i can choose the right pool for me . if i understood correctly, the larger my investment, the shorter the term for which the capital is placed
But I wonder why profit in dollars? After all, the prices of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are growing, I have long been watching the course and how is it better for me
Hi, I don't agree with you here. The price of cryptocurrencies is constantly changing. And dollars have been stable lately.I think here everything is thought out when you withdraw funds, they will be converted from U.S. dollar ATAO using the current exchange rate on TAOx and the average price of bitcoin US dollar

Everything said here so far is correct :)

If the daily profits were not fixed in USD, you would automatically take more risk due to the more volatile nature of crypto. We decided to implement it like this, so that per default the way of less risk is chosen. However, you can withdraw you profits daily and convert them in any cryptocurrency you like.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 15, 2018, 10:55:54 AM
Sorry, maybe I'm asking a stupid question, but I need to know, is your platform legal? and I would like to know all payments occur immediately or after some time. Now it is so difficult to find a really worthwhile platform, but after reading the information on the site I see that the team is perfect and I think there should be no doubt.

We are not allowed to give any legal advisory here. However, it depends on your country and the legislation in general. For example, if you are located in United States of America, North Korea, Cuba, Iran and/or Syria you are not allowed to invest in the ICO. For further information, pls check the Risk Disclaimer, Terms and Conditions and the Disclaimer in the whitepaper. This information you can find here: https://www.arbitao.com/documents


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 15, 2018, 11:01:59 AM
I would like to know how to trade and make a profit, if some secret of success, I'm new to this and want to know as much as possible where I can find detailed information or contact someone who has long been versed in this and makes good money.

Arbitao developed a specialized algorithm which is executing arbitrage trades automatically. If you are interested in the project pls check out the website for more info: https://www.arbitao.com

If you are interested generally in arbitrage you can just google it and gain more knowledge about the critical factors for arbitrage trading, markets with biggest spreads etc.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 15, 2018, 03:15:58 PM
Just came across your project on the Internet and would like to know how I can make a profit except trading, for me it is a big risk to lose money if I make a few ETH how soon I can get profit from it?

Hey!
In Arbitao you dont have to trade by yourself. This is done automatically by the algorithm (success rate of 96%). However, if you still feel uncomfortable with it, Arbitao offers other ways too. Just check out the One Pager or Ten Pager for more details:

https://static.arbitao.com/presskit/Arbitao_One_Pager_EN.pdf

https://static.arbitao.com/presskit/Arbitao_Ten_Pager_EN.pdf


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 15, 2018, 03:35:14 PM
Interesting project. I tried to sign up on the website but I get a verification error every time I try to sign in.

Thanks for the feedback, we will follow up to resolve this asap. I sent you a direct message.
New signups are working in general, I'm sorry you encountered a problem.

Also, the link on your website to your Telegram Group is not working and just redirects to the Telegram Channel.

The Telegram group is here: https://t.me/arbitaochat
Can I join the Arbitao signature campaign, dev?
Please help me link to apply and codes of Arbitao signature.

Yes you can. Pls follow this link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4467190.0


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: BigBadBitBaron on June 15, 2018, 03:36:14 PM
Been a long while since an opportunity like this has come along.. :o :o

I personally can't wait for ARBITAO to get up and running, as a complete Noob when it comes to Arbitrage I find it
refreshing that something like this has finally emerged.

Will in no doubt be getting involved with this one 8) 8)


Good Luck to all involved


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 15, 2018, 03:47:46 PM
How did the idea of creating such a large-scale project? I want to invest and would like to know how soon I will be able to get profit from it, whether there are any discounts for investors. I like the ideas of cryptocurrency and I believe this is our future

Generally, arbitrage is a well known method in order to generate profits almost risk free by exploiting price differences between different markets on the same commodity/financial instrument. The CEO and CTO of Arbitao were working in the banking sector before and were already years ago aware of the arbitrage potential. So John (CEO) started to develop with his team the basics of the current algorithm and Karel (CTO) figured out how the infrastructure has to be built in order to exploit automatically the price differences in order to outweigh the market inefficiencies. The prototype was developed and it worked fine on a small scale. However, based on their experience in the old economy/financial markets they spotted this opportunity on crypto market. This is how they went deeper into the crypto market. Afterwards, the algorithm and the infrastructure were aligned to the crypto market and initial investors were found which helped to continue the development. This is how the product was created. After testing the product, the huge potential of the market was even more clear. At this point we realized that the next step we have to focus on is scaling. Now Arbitao wants to accelerate the business development and is searching for additional funds in order to scale the arbitrage system even more (more currencies, exchanges etc.). If you are interested more in the scientific part pls check out following website: https://www.orbatao.com/

The PRE-ICO starts on 1st of July with a discount. After the soft cap is reached it will be possible to start investing in the pools. Profits will be paid out on a daily basis. At the end of the ICO you will be able to withdraw your ATAO Coins and start staking. If you are interested in “How to profit” with Arbitao pls check the One Pager out at: https://static.arbitao.com/presskit/Arbitao_One_Pager_EN.pdf


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: evgenij.burchak on June 15, 2018, 05:44:36 PM
 I can afford to join a bronze pool, my funds are not so great, but what is the difference from other pools? How soon can I get profit from this and for what period, is there any special calculator? or where can I find more information


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: P3 on June 15, 2018, 05:52:12 PM
I am very interested in your project , I want to become a successful trader, give me a couple of tips on how to get a stable profit from this platform. Is it possible to develop if I invest $100?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: FeArZ on June 15, 2018, 06:00:55 PM
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Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 15, 2018, 06:21:52 PM
I can afford to join a bronze pool, my funds are not so great, but what is the difference from other pools? How soon can I get profit from this and for what period, is there any special calculator? or where can I find more information

Hey! The difference between the pools is the lock up period of your investment and the daily rate! The amount of invested money defines in which pool you will be in!

The timeframe/period related to pools stands for how long your invested starting capital will be locked up. It is locked up because the capital is used for arbitrage trading.

After the specified period is over, you are free to re-invest or withdraw your starting capital. (The daily profits are not locked up and can be re-invested or withdrawn at any time.)

Bronze Pool: Invest: 100$-1000$ Interest Rate: 0.5% per day Locking Period: 240 days

Silver Pool: Invest: 1001$-5000$ Interest Rate: 0.6% per day Locking Period: 190 days

Gold Pool: Invest: 5001$-10000$ Interest Rate: 0.7% per day Locking Period: 150 days

Platinum Pool: Invest: 10000+$ Interest Rate: 0.75% per day Locking Period: 120 days

The calculator you can find on the website: https://www.arbitao.com


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 15, 2018, 06:26:28 PM
I am very interested in your project , I want to become a successful trader, give me a couple of tips on how to get a stable profit from this platform. Is it possible to develop if I invest $100?

If you invest in Arbitao you will get ATAO Coins, with these coins you are able to invest in the investment pools, stake on the wallet etc. In the pool your investment will be locked for a certain period (dependent on the pool) and the algorithm will execute the arbitrage trades automatically. You can withdraw your profits on a daily basis and you dont have to execute any trade by yourself.

If you are interested in "How to profit" with Arbitao check out the following links:

https://static.arbitao.com/presskit/Arbitao_One_Pager_EN.pdf

https://static.arbitao.com/presskit/Arbitao_Ten_Pager_EN.pdf


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: armchair-84 on June 15, 2018, 06:28:27 PM
I believe that the success of the ico and the project as a whole depends on the team, as for me it is quite professional, so I think that arbitao will exist for a very long time. After all, trading in our time is an easy way to make a profit


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: mediocre777 on June 15, 2018, 06:49:57 PM
I believe that the success of the ico and the project as a whole depends on the team, as for me it is quite professional, so I think that arbitao will exist for a very long time. After all, trading in our time is an easy way to make a profit
I would not say that easy, because not knowing certain strategies you can lose everything, but also stay in the big plus, the main thing to stick to your strategies and budget. Never bet all, but only a part and when winning in time to leave, so as not to lose.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: BigBadBitBaron on June 15, 2018, 07:40:59 PM
Been a long while since an opportunity like this has come along.. :o :o

I personally can't wait for ARBITAO to get up and running, as a complete Noob when it comes to Arbitrage I find it
refreshing that something like this has finally emerged.

Will in no doubt be getting involved with this one 8) 8)


Good Luck to all involved

Edit :

One potential investor pissed off already

Not good enough for sig campaign, my money will not be good enough to invest.. 

sorry !!

But good luck anyways


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: CarterBRO on June 15, 2018, 07:42:27 PM
I watch how the new coins go faster and faster to stock exchanges. The main thing is that all this progress also does not quickly.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: tania30 on June 15, 2018, 07:44:25 PM
I must say I am pretty impressed...Like your style and whitepaper! I like that I can choose the right pool.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: DyxLEzz on June 15, 2018, 09:22:35 PM
I must say I am pretty impressed...Like your style and whitepaper! I like that I can choose the right pool.

Are you sure that you will be able to choose the pool? As I understand it may be choosing randomly when the appropriate amount gathered? Or you just enter the pool you want and wait for guys joining you. I don’t know  :-\


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: rog1121 on June 15, 2018, 10:58:00 PM
Do you have any referral programs? I mean could I make some additional profit from a number of users who I will be able to attract


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: trofim21 on June 15, 2018, 11:10:23 PM
sales and trading are gaining popularity and all that is connected with this in the near future should only go up, so I think such sites will work well and should collect their money


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: artem21 on June 15, 2018, 11:18:31 PM
Perhaps I will agree with you now a lot of companies of this kind are on the exchange and they are all very successful, so in such companies you need to participate, but you also need to track because not all of them are good


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Lina_Malina on June 15, 2018, 11:31:35 PM
I believe that the success of the ico and the project as a whole depends on the team, as for me it is quite professional, so I think that arbitao will exist for a very long time. After all, trading in our time is an easy way to make a profit
I would not say that easy, because not knowing certain strategies you can lose everything, but also stay in the big plus, the main thing to stick to your strategies and budget. Never bet all, but only a part and when winning in time to leave, so as not to lose.
Here I agree with you, but if we are talking about the whole idea of the project, it is clear that a lot has already been done and the team reacted responsibly, I saw a lot of different projects, but as for me, arbitao is a kind of unique one, I’m waiting for the bounty start


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Kpss_pro on June 15, 2018, 11:48:37 PM
I believe that the success of the ico and the project as a whole depends on the team, as for me it is quite professional, so I think that arbitao will exist for a very long time. After all, trading in our time is an easy way to make a profit
I would not say that easy, because not knowing certain strategies you can lose everything, but also stay in the big plus, the main thing to stick to your strategies and budget. Never bet all, but only a part and when winning in time to leave, so as not to lose.
Here I agree with you, but if we are talking about the whole idea of the project, it is clear that a lot has already been done and the team reacted responsibly, I saw a lot of different projects, but as for me, arbitao is a kind of unique one, I’m waiting for the bounty start
For the team, there should be more online promotion to attract more investors. This is quite necessary for any new start up that has great plans. Everyone should know about the existence at least, so you need to attract as many new users as possible. But on the hand it shouldn’t be like spamming everywhere :) :) :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: fbatyshev_007 on June 16, 2018, 12:09:35 AM
The project is beautiful, but it’s interesting how the platform will function. Do you feel you allocated enough to maintain stable functionality? As for me one of the most important aspects


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Mysbanickma on June 16, 2018, 01:16:25 AM
I believe that the success of the ico and the project as a whole depends on the team, as for me it is quite professional, so I think that arbitao will exist for a very long time. After all, trading in our time is an easy way to make a profit
I would not say that easy, because not knowing certain strategies you can lose everything, but also stay in the big plus, the main thing to stick to your strategies and budget. Never bet all, but only a part and when winning in time to leave, so as not to lose.
Here I agree with you, but if we are talking about the whole idea of the project, it is clear that a lot has already been done and the team reacted responsibly, I saw a lot of different projects, but as for me, arbitao is a kind of unique one, I’m waiting for the bounty start
I think this project has a good prospect for the future, with a good concept and interesting I am sure later will more and more investors who join for the success of this project.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: kamarchek on June 16, 2018, 03:51:42 AM
Not extremely fresh idea. But there’s something that allows me to think of it as of a positive idea which may exist in a harmony on the financial markets. Mostly I think it’s about a package and details. Simple model. However, trading process is not simple at all. I wish you good luck anyway. Diversification of the pools looks reasonable and flexible. You have nice chance to become great!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Strufmbae on June 16, 2018, 11:21:03 AM
Do you have a video that could explain the platform of the project? Can you post the link? 


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: AGRE$$IV on June 16, 2018, 11:32:18 AM
The project is beautiful, but it’s interesting how the platform will function. Do you feel you allocated enough to maintain stable functionality? As for me one of the most important aspects


I’m sure enough ~80% of maintenance regarding to the online platform is about how quickly the team can fix the bugs and react to the community requests. You are not able to calculate the funds (and time as well) you need to deal with all the problems. I have little doubts about 2% of reserve funds, isn’t it a small amount? Well.. I’ve never run my own business and I cannot state anything about funds allocation, but I played so many games on PC and the main problem was of course connected with game crashes, bugs, server crashes. So the success of such online projects (games, video hosts, trading platforms) is about 2 things - stability and maintenance. I like Arbitao and just would be very happy to see it works. But I suggest focusing on these parts of the success  :D


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: AGRE$$IV on June 16, 2018, 11:34:07 AM
Do you have a video that could explain the platform of the project? Can you post the link? 

It’s really hard to find it on YouTube  ;D

https://youtu.be/2E2T9e5tDJk


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: KrIp on June 16, 2018, 02:39:03 PM
I’m quite new to arbitrage but it looks even more clear than using of trading signals and instruments. How much is recommended to invest to earn something above $100 monthly?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: kaconk on June 16, 2018, 03:40:46 PM
Do you have any referral programs? I mean could I make some additional profit from a number of users who I will be able to attract
After i visit to the website ARBITAO, this project have bounty and referral programs.
"Arbitao’s Affiliate Program rewards you with up to 18% commission on up to 3 levels."
https://www.arbitao.com/affiliate (https://t.co/RhARsDaC0v)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: avtaev.savva on June 16, 2018, 06:58:58 PM
That's definitely not fresh idea, many such automated systems are already exsiting, but still I think they are not good enough and that's why new projects are appearing. Arbitao has some unique features and it can become the main arbitrage platform


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: yaroslava.pryanchikova on June 16, 2018, 07:26:32 PM
U say system PoS is eco-friendly! man why dont u find some partners like green organizations or smth ;D Know it hilarious but can be nice ad for you project! :D


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: napkin1989 on June 16, 2018, 07:54:54 PM
That's definitely not fresh idea, many such automated systems are already exsiting, but still I think they are not good enough and that's why new projects are appearing. Arbitao has some unique features and it can become the main arbitrage platform
Well the feature surprised me is that users can just contribute computing power to the platform itself... but actually it sounds kinda fishy, just wonder how it is supposed to work


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: boris0148 on June 16, 2018, 08:12:11 PM
I need to learn more about the people behind the project, team info on your website is okay but what about social media accounts? Any facebook/twitter links?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: tmfp on June 16, 2018, 08:38:04 PM
it sounds kinda fishy

There's plenty about this "arbitrage platform" that smells "kinda fishy"....here's just three aspects of it that are atypical of previous scams which pretended to arbitrage.

1) The software is supposedly already successfully running and producing profit for anonymous "private investors".
2) The "Four types of Arbitrage pools" structure is exactly similar to HYIP script "investment opportunities" i.e. invest more, get higher
     return. There is no logic behind this structure for pooled equity trading.
3) Multi level marketing scheme attached.

That's without mentioning the Linkedin profiles, cliched marketing vids, emphasis on "community" blahblah, or the wallet or the internal exchange or the.......


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: suchmoon on June 16, 2018, 08:54:56 PM
0.75% daily... must be totes legit  ::)

https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answersponzihtm.html

Quote
What is a Ponzi scheme?
A Ponzi scheme is an investment fraud that involves the payment of purported returns to existing investors from funds contributed by new investors. Ponzi scheme organizers often solicit new investors by promising to invest funds in opportunities claimed to generate high returns with little or no risk. In many Ponzi schemes, the fraudsters focus on attracting new money to make promised payments to earlier-stage investors to create the false appearance that investors are profiting from a legitimate business.

Why do Ponzi schemes collapse?
With little or no legitimate earnings, Ponzi schemes require a consistent flow of money from new investors to continue. Ponzi schemes tend to collapse when it becomes difficult to recruit new investors or when a large number of investors ask to cash out.

What are some Ponzi scheme "red flags"?
Many Ponzi schemes share common characteristics. Look for these warning signs:

High investment returns with little or no risk. Every investment carries some degree of risk, and investments yielding higher returns typically involve more risk. Be highly suspicious of any "guaranteed" investment opportunity.

Overly consistent returns. Investment values tend to go up and down over time, especially those offering potentially high returns. Be suspect of an investment that continues to generate regular, positive returns regardless of overall market conditions.

Unregistered investments. Ponzi schemes typically involve investments that have not been registered with the SEC or with state regulators. Registration is important because it provides investors with access to key information about the company's management, products, services, and finances.

Unlicensed sellers. Federal and state securities laws require investment professionals and their firms to be licensed or registered. Most Ponzi schemes involve unlicensed individuals or unregistered firms.
Secretive and/or complex strategies. Avoiding investments you do not understand, or for which you cannot get complete information, is a good rule of thumb.

Issues with paperwork. Do not accept excuses regarding why you cannot review information about an investment in writing. Also, account statement errors and inconsistencies may be signs that funds are not being invested as promised.

Difficulty receiving payments. Be suspicious if you do not receive a payment or have difficulty cashing out your investment. Keep in mind that Ponzi scheme promoters routinely encourage participants to "roll over" investments and sometimes promise returns offering even higher returns on the amount rolled over.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: sabina.gnusareva on June 16, 2018, 09:14:22 PM
That's definitely not fresh idea, many such automated systems are already exsiting, but still I think they are not good enough and that's why new projects are appearing. Arbitao has some unique features and it can become the main arbitrage platform
Well the feature surprised me is that users can just contribute computing power to the platform itself... but actually it sounds kinda fishy, just wonder how it is supposed to work
I don't get it fully too but the more computing power they have the more efficient the platform becomes. I mean there will probably be more possibilities for trading and you can earn more if the system is stronger)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: tmfp on June 16, 2018, 09:16:25 PM
I don't get it fully too but the more computing power they have the more efficient the platform becomes. I mean there will probably be more possibilities for trading and you can earn more if the system is stronger)

You don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about, do you?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: hov777 on June 16, 2018, 10:02:25 PM
WP is detailed and stuff but can't find any open source code of your platform. You gonna publish it? Is not that I understand a bitin programming but this way I can trust you more :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: mad_max777 on June 16, 2018, 10:59:58 PM
That's definitely not fresh idea, many such automated systems are already exsiting, but still I think they are not good enough and that's why new projects are appearing. Arbitao has some unique features and it can become the main arbitrage platform
Well the feature surprised me is that users can just contribute computing power to the platform itself... but actually it sounds kinda fishy, just wonder how it is supposed to work
I don't get it fully too but the more computing power they have the more efficient the platform becomes. I mean there will probably be more possibilities for trading and you can earn more if the system is stronger)
Okay then how many people should contribute so that the platform become faster than competitors? What hashrate they plan to get? For example one with a mine farm can contribute far more than a thousand ordinary users :-\


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: suchmoon on June 16, 2018, 11:20:55 PM
That's definitely not fresh idea, many such automated systems are already exsiting, but still I think they are not good enough and that's why new projects are appearing. Arbitao has some unique features and it can become the main arbitrage platform
Well the feature surprised me is that users can just contribute computing power to the platform itself... but actually it sounds kinda fishy, just wonder how it is supposed to work
I don't get it fully too but the more computing power they have the more efficient the platform becomes. I mean there will probably be more possibilities for trading and you can earn more if the system is stronger)
Okay then how many people should contribute so that the platform become faster than competitors? What hashrate they plan to get? For example one with a mine farm can contribute far more than a thousand ordinary users :-\

How can hashrate help with trading and arbitrage?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: sahabond on June 16, 2018, 11:27:12 PM
That's definitely not fresh idea, many such automated systems are already exsiting, but still I think they are not good enough and that's why new projects are appearing. Arbitao has some unique features and it can become the main arbitrage platform
Well the feature surprised me is that users can just contribute computing power to the platform itself... but actually it sounds kinda fishy, just wonder how it is supposed to work
I don't get it fully too but the more computing power they have the more efficient the platform becomes. I mean there will probably be more possibilities for trading and you can earn more if the system is stronger)
Okay then how many people should contribute so that the platform become faster than competitors? What hashrate they plan to get? For example one with a mine farm can contribute far more than a thousand ordinary users :-\
Yeah, what will be the rewards for this? Will they depend on how many power I contribute?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Copulative on June 16, 2018, 11:36:29 PM
I understand the concept of arbitrage platform, but I didn't expect referral system here. I know how it is beneficial for users who invite friends, but what are benefits for you except the community growth?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: obulynin on June 16, 2018, 11:49:06 PM
That's definitely not fresh idea, many such automated systems are already exsiting, but still I think they are not good enough and that's why new projects are appearing. Arbitao has some unique features and it can become the main arbitrage platform
Well the feature surprised me is that users can just contribute computing power to the platform itself... but actually it sounds kinda fishy, just wonder how it is supposed to work
I don't get it fully too but the more computing power they have the more efficient the platform becomes. I mean there will probably be more possibilities for trading and you can earn more if the system is stronger)
Okay then how many people should contribute so that the platform become faster than competitors? What hashrate they plan to get? For example one with a mine farm can contribute far more than a thousand ordinary users :-\
Yeah, what will be the rewards for this? Will they depend on how many power I contribute?
lol, guys what youre talking about is pow system. in pos it doesnt matter how powerful your device, but how many tokens you have, everyone can do it actually :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: luksbit on June 17, 2018, 12:02:07 AM
This calculator available in the portal of the project, in relation to that rate of profit of 0.5% in the Bronze plan will it always be this rate? Will there be any change over time?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: suchmoon on June 17, 2018, 01:08:09 AM
This calculator available in the portal of the project, in relation to that rate of profit of 0.5% in the Bronze plan will it always be this rate? Will there be any change over time?

It will change to zero once the perps collect an amount of money they're happy with.

Which part of "ponzi" do you find hard to understand?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: richan on June 17, 2018, 06:12:11 AM
Too good to be true.But something look fishy, If you have a working product already why then include in your roadmap in Q3 of 2018(Launch of Platform). I don't get it , how is a working platfrom need a lunch again. And I think the private sales collected in 2017 should be made available.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 17, 2018, 03:27:26 PM
https://i.imgur.com/qyRiGl9.png
"Contact me when Arbitao introduces a Latinum Pool.
Until then, don't interrupt me when I'm getting ear."


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: stalin2517 on June 17, 2018, 04:53:50 PM
So you say 19 exchanges are your partners. I would like to know which exchanges exactly you work with, it will be interesting for all of us, so show the list plz ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: evgenij.burchak on June 17, 2018, 05:04:24 PM
 Can't figure out the difference between fully automated arb system and arb bot, is there any really huh?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 17, 2018, 05:10:06 PM
Can't figure out the difference between fully automated arb system and arb bot, is there any really huh?

An arb bot is just that, an arb bot. But a fully automated arb system is an AI.

https://i.imgur.com/54LOHqW.jpg
"Good-bye, arb bot. I'm here to replace you on Arbitao at 19 exchanges and counting."

Personally, I'm waiting for Arbitao to announce their soon-to-be-release Visa card issued by some secret Asian bank.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Kpss_pro on June 17, 2018, 05:12:32 PM
Hello! Nice to see devs answering community questions, but one thing is not that clear for me. As the speed is crucial you think staking may help you, I read the WP but still despite the detailed description the concept itself is a bit vague. Could you explain it in simple words? Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: obulynin on June 17, 2018, 05:35:24 PM
I understand that you probably can't just give the full algorithms and code because competitors are over your shoulder ::) But you need to provide far more transparency since the arbitrage process is automated. No pleasure from working with black box :-\


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: rog1121 on June 17, 2018, 09:04:58 PM
So is arb with your platform is a fully passive income? I need just keep that thing on and it will make money $$$ ? Ermmmmm why is that so ez, doubt it can be just so ???


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: mad_max777 on June 17, 2018, 09:17:34 PM
Sure the info is well-designed and detailed, especially hard work was done on writing whitepaper. But for me it is too detailed, so much information that I find more questions than answers, wish it was more simple to understand the idea :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 17, 2018, 09:35:41 PM
Too good to be true.But something look fishy, If you have a working product already why then include in your roadmap in Q3 of 2018(Launch of Platform). I don't get it , how is a working platfrom need a lunch again. And I think the private sales collected in 2017 should be made available.

Thanks to the early investors, Arbitao has been working for a while and generating regular profits. We are currently trading on 10 of the biggest exchanges and executing arbitrage trades for 671 cryptocurrency pairs. Up to 20k arbitrage trades are being executed on a daily basis.

The capital we will raise through the ICO is not necessary for the launch of the product itself, but nearly all of it will be used to increase the funding to a lot more exchanges and thousands of additional pairs. This will bring tens of thousands of arbitrage opportunities more each day and result in a far greater, regular profits for our investors.

So the financing is necessary for increasing capital on the exchanges and establishing the position of Arbitao as market leader. Of course, part of the funding from the ICO will be used for the development of the infrastructure and introduction of other, more sophisticated arbitrage methods – you can find this information in the white paper.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 17, 2018, 09:51:29 PM
0.75% daily... must be totes legit  ::)

https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answersponzihtm.html

Quote
What is a Ponzi scheme?
A Ponzi scheme is an investment fraud that involves the payment of purported returns to existing investors from funds contributed by new investors. Ponzi scheme organizers often solicit new investors by promising to invest funds in opportunities claimed to generate high returns with little or no risk. In many Ponzi schemes, the fraudsters focus on attracting new money to make promised payments to earlier-stage investors to create the false appearance that investors are profiting from a legitimate business.

Why do Ponzi schemes collapse?
With little or no legitimate earnings, Ponzi schemes require a consistent flow of money from new investors to continue. Ponzi schemes tend to collapse when it becomes difficult to recruit new investors or when a large number of investors ask to cash out.

What are some Ponzi scheme "red flags"?
Many Ponzi schemes share common characteristics. Look for these warning signs:

High investment returns with little or no risk. Every investment carries some degree of risk, and investments yielding higher returns typically involve more risk. Be highly suspicious of any "guaranteed" investment opportunity.

Overly consistent returns. Investment values tend to go up and down over time, especially those offering potentially high returns. Be suspect of an investment that continues to generate regular, positive returns regardless of overall market conditions.

Unregistered investments. Ponzi schemes typically involve investments that have not been registered with the SEC or with state regulators. Registration is important because it provides investors with access to key information about the company's management, products, services, and finances.

Unlicensed sellers. Federal and state securities laws require investment professionals and their firms to be licensed or registered. Most Ponzi schemes involve unlicensed individuals or unregistered firms.
Secretive and/or complex strategies. Avoiding investments you do not understand, or for which you cannot get complete information, is a good rule of thumb.

Issues with paperwork. Do not accept excuses regarding why you cannot review information about an investment in writing. Also, account statement errors and inconsistencies may be signs that funds are not being invested as promised.

Difficulty receiving payments. Be suspicious if you do not receive a payment or have difficulty cashing out your investment. Keep in mind that Ponzi scheme promoters routinely encourage participants to "roll over" investments and sometimes promise returns offering even higher returns on the amount rolled over.


Arbitao is not promising a high return on investment. We leave a big margin for error.

Surely, everybody knows how arbitrage at regular exchanges works, but there’s a huge difference between regular exchanges and cryptocurrency exchanges. The cryptocurrency market is not fully regulated and there are substantially greater differences in prices between cryptocurrency pairs at different exchanges. As a result, profits from arbitrage can be much bigger. Multiply this by hundreds or even thousands of different pairs and the profits can be really huge.

The software is working and has been generating steady profit. The capital that the ICO will bring is going to be used for scaling the enterprise so we can cover dozens of new exchanges and thousands of new cryptocurrency pairs. This will results in increase of profits for all investors.
 
On the other hand, in time, the effect of the massive arbitrage that Arbitao is performing will reduce the price differences on different exchanges and the spread is going to shrink. It may result over time in the daily interest rates dropping as well.

At this moment, and thanks to the initial investors, Arbitao is executing arbitrage operations on 671 currency pairs across 10 biggest exchanges. Since May 16th 2018, Arbitao has already performed over 2.5 million successful arbitrage trades. The whole history is available on the dashboard when you sign in.

When you take all this into consideration, calling Arbitao a Ponzi scheme is completely unreasonable.

Arbitao doesn’t accept investors from the US, so of course it’s not registered with the SEC.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 17, 2018, 10:05:30 PM
I understand the concept of arbitrage platform, but I didn't expect referral system here. I know how it is beneficial for users who invite friends, but what are benefits for you except the community growth?

First of all, all other ICOs spend millions of dollars on marketing by handing out big parts of their budgets to established marketing agencies. We wanted to do it differently, and decided to empower the Arbitao community with an affiliate program.

Arbitao is a fully-working product, generating profits for the early investors and, based on the historical data, we managed to assess what percentage of the profits we can allocate for this affiliate program.

Our goal is to secure a leading position in the cryptocurrency arbitrage space as soon as possible. To reach this goal, we need sufficient capital in order to deposit enough funds across dozens of exchanges and be able to trade on hundreds and hundreds of currency pairs.

The ultimate goal is that Arbitao can trade thousands of pairs across 100 exchanges.

Now is the perfect time to reach the position of a leader because the crypto market cap is still relatively small. Therefore, really big players, currently operating in the forex market are not yet interested too much in taking it over. Also, dozens of exchanges that are not yet regulated do not seem attractive for traditional investors. 

This, however, will change sooner or later. The market cap is growing year to year and the big players will eventually take interest in it. By that time, Arbitao wants to grow big enough to be able to compete with them.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 17, 2018, 10:11:19 PM
That's definitely not fresh idea, many such automated systems are already exsiting, but still I think they are not good enough and that's why new projects are appearing. Arbitao has some unique features and it can become the main arbitrage platform
Well the feature surprised me is that users can just contribute computing power to the platform itself... but actually it sounds kinda fishy, just wonder how it is supposed to work
I don't get it fully too but the more computing power they have the more efficient the platform becomes. I mean there will probably be more possibilities for trading and you can earn more if the system is stronger)
Okay then how many people should contribute so that the platform become faster than competitors? What hashrate they plan to get? For example one with a mine farm can contribute far more than a thousand ordinary users :-\

How can hashrate help with trading and arbitrage?

Hashrate will let us process enormous amounts of data which we need for analysis and introduction of new arbitrage strategies.

As we are striving to decentralize the system, we chose this method instead of the cloud solution. Additionally, this means lowering the computing power costs and more opportunity for the Arbitao community to gain profits. So, it’s a win-win situation.

If you are interested more in the scientific part of this, please check out the following website: https://www.orbatao.com/, which is a part of the Arbitao project, and where more publications will soon be added.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 17, 2018, 10:14:16 PM
0.75% daily... must be totes legit  ::)

https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answersponzihtm.html

Quote
What is a Ponzi scheme?
A Ponzi scheme is an investment fraud that involves the payment of purported returns to existing investors from funds contributed by new investors. Ponzi scheme organizers often solicit new investors by promising to invest funds in opportunities claimed to generate high returns with little or no risk. In many Ponzi schemes, the fraudsters focus on attracting new money to make promised payments to earlier-stage investors to create the false appearance that investors are profiting from a legitimate business.

Why do Ponzi schemes collapse?
With little or no legitimate earnings, Ponzi schemes require a consistent flow of money from new investors to continue. Ponzi schemes tend to collapse when it becomes difficult to recruit new investors or when a large number of investors ask to cash out.

What are some Ponzi scheme "red flags"?
Many Ponzi schemes share common characteristics. Look for these warning signs:

High investment returns with little or no risk. Every investment carries some degree of risk, and investments yielding higher returns typically involve more risk. Be highly suspicious of any "guaranteed" investment opportunity.

Overly consistent returns. Investment values tend to go up and down over time, especially those offering potentially high returns. Be suspect of an investment that continues to generate regular, positive returns regardless of overall market conditions.

Unregistered investments. Ponzi schemes typically involve investments that have not been registered with the SEC or with state regulators. Registration is important because it provides investors with access to key information about the company's management, products, services, and finances.

Unlicensed sellers. Federal and state securities laws require investment professionals and their firms to be licensed or registered. Most Ponzi schemes involve unlicensed individuals or unregistered firms.
Secretive and/or complex strategies. Avoiding investments you do not understand, or for which you cannot get complete information, is a good rule of thumb.

Issues with paperwork. Do not accept excuses regarding why you cannot review information about an investment in writing. Also, account statement errors and inconsistencies may be signs that funds are not being invested as promised.

Difficulty receiving payments. Be suspicious if you do not receive a payment or have difficulty cashing out your investment. Keep in mind that Ponzi scheme promoters routinely encourage participants to "roll over" investments and sometimes promise returns offering even higher returns on the amount rolled over.


Arbitao is not promising a high return on investment. We leave a big margin for error.

Surely, everybody knows how arbitrage at regular exchanges works, but there’s a huge difference between regular exchanges and cryptocurrency exchanges. The cryptocurrency market is not fully regulated and there are substantially greater differences in prices between cryptocurrency pairs at different exchanges. As a result, profits from arbitrage can be much bigger. Multiply this by hundreds or even thousands of different pairs and the profits can be really huge.

The software is working and has been generating steady profit. The capital that the ICO will bring is going to be used for scaling the enterprise so we can cover dozens of new exchanges and thousands of new cryptocurrency pairs. This will results in increase of profits for all investors.
 
On the other hand, in time, the effect of the massive arbitrage that Arbitao is performing will reduce the price differences on different exchanges and the spread is going to shrink. It may result over time in the daily interest rates dropping as well.

At this moment, and thanks to the initial investors, Arbitao is executing arbitrage operations on 671 currency pairs across 10 biggest exchanges. Since May 16th 2018, Arbitao has already performed over 2.5 million successful arbitrage trades. The whole history is available on the dashboard when you sign in.

When you take all this into consideration, calling Arbitao a Ponzi scheme is completely unreasonable.

Arbitao doesn’t accept investors from the US, so of course it’s not registered with the SEC.

Translated, we operate a very, very, very profitable business but need investors so that we can scale.

Meanwhile, --- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4486941.0


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: suchmoon on June 17, 2018, 10:14:38 PM
Arbitao is not promising a high return on investment. We leave a big margin for error.

Surely, everybody knows how arbitrage at regular exchanges works, but there’s a huge difference between regular exchanges and cryptocurrency exchanges. The cryptocurrency market is not fully regulated and there are substantially greater differences in prices between cryptocurrency pairs at different exchanges. As a result, profits from arbitrage can be much bigger. Multiply this by hundreds or even thousands of different pairs and the profits can be really huge.

The software is working and has been generating steady profit. The capital that the ICO will bring is going to be used for scaling the enterprise so we can cover dozens of new exchanges and thousands of new cryptocurrency pairs. This will results in increase of profits for all investors.
 
On the other hand, in time, the effect of the massive arbitrage that Arbitao is performing will reduce the price differences on different exchanges and the spread is going to shrink. It may result over time in the daily interest rates dropping as well.

At this moment, and thanks to the initial investors, Arbitao is executing arbitrage operations on 671 currency pairs across 10 biggest exchanges. Since May 16th 2018, Arbitao has already performed over 2.5 million successful arbitrage trades. The whole history is available on the dashboard when you sign in.

When you take all this into consideration, calling Arbitao a Ponzi scheme is completely unreasonable.

Arbitao doesn’t accept investors from the US, so of course it’s not registered with the SEC.

You claim that you've been operating this scheme since 2016 but there is nothing to be found about Arbitao more than a couple of months ago. Why is that?

If you'd put $100k into your scheme two years ago you'd have ~20 million today according to your claims. Or if you put $100k into today you'll have $20 million in two years. Why do you need other people's money? Why do you want to dilute your gains by pouring more money into it?

If the rate of return is not guaranteed, can it be negative?

If you're not registered with the SEC, which countries and regulatory agencies are you registered with?

I think you're missing the point of what I posted. The SEC "red flags" apply to any ponzi, no matter which country it operates in. Any ONE of those red flags is sufficient for any reasonable investor to run away from you as fast as they can. So it is very reasonable to suspect you're a ponzi given what we know so far. Good choice of a logo though, the pyramid suits you well.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 17, 2018, 10:22:09 PM
I understand that you probably can't just give the full algorithms and code because competitors are over your shoulder ::) But you need to provide far more transparency since the arbitrage process is automated. No pleasure from working with black box :-\

The answer to your question is included in the question itself, but we’ll be happy to answer any other questions you may have in the future.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 17, 2018, 10:24:34 PM
That's definitely not fresh idea, many such automated systems are already exsiting, but still I think they are not good enough and that's why new projects are appearing. Arbitao has some unique features and it can become the main arbitrage platform
Well the feature surprised me is that users can just contribute computing power to the platform itself... but actually it sounds kinda fishy, just wonder how it is supposed to work
I don't get it fully too but the more computing power they have the more efficient the platform becomes. I mean there will probably be more possibilities for trading and you can earn more if the system is stronger)
Okay then how many people should contribute so that the platform become faster than competitors? What hashrate they plan to get? For example one with a mine farm can contribute far more than a thousand ordinary users :-\

Arbitao is a proven, working arbitrage system. The speed of execution of the transactions is not and will not be dependent on hashrate.

For the purpose of beating our competition at the speed of execution of arbitrage trades, Arbitao servers are located as close as possible to the servers of the exchanges that the platform is operating on. This smart network architecture lets us become faster than the competitors.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 17, 2018, 10:26:07 PM
Hello! Nice to see devs answering community questions, but one thing is not that clear for me. As the speed is crucial you think staking may help you, I read the WP but still despite the detailed description the concept itself is a bit vague. Could you explain it in simple words? Thanks

Arbitao is a platform which finds those risk-free arbitrage opportunities and executes them successfully.

This is already a working product, so I can show you how it’s done.

There are two crucial steps - 1) to spot an existing arbitrage opportunity, and 2) to take advantage of it.

This powerful platform monitors Order Books on numerous exchanges simultaneously, so it knows what’s going on, on every market it covers.

At this moment Arbitao can perform a deep, real-time analysis on 10 of the biggest markets and hundreds of pairs. In fact, there are 671 unique pairs on which Arbitao is executing risk-free arbitrage trading.

We’re talking 24/7, real-time analysis of 671 unique pairs on 10 exchanges to discover every profitable arbitrage opportunity and execute successful trades. Since May 16th, 2018 Arbitao executed more than 2.5 million arbitrage trades!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 17, 2018, 10:34:43 PM
That's definitely not fresh idea, many such automated systems are already exsiting, but still I think they are not good enough and that's why new projects are appearing. Arbitao has some unique features and it can become the main arbitrage platform
Well the feature surprised me is that users can just contribute computing power to the platform itself... but actually it sounds kinda fishy, just wonder how it is supposed to work
I don't get it fully too but the more computing power they have the more efficient the platform becomes. I mean there will probably be more possibilities for trading and you can earn more if the system is stronger)
Okay then how many people should contribute so that the platform become faster than competitors? What hashrate they plan to get? For example one with a mine farm can contribute far more than a thousand ordinary users :-\

Arbitao is a proven, working arbitrage system. The speed of execution of the transactions is not and will not be dependent on hashrate.

For the purpose of beating our competition at the speed of execution of arbitrage trades, Arbitao servers are located as close as possible to the servers of the exchanges that the platform is operating on. This smart network architecture lets us become faster than the competitors.

I change my sentiment, for I love the fact that your servers will be as close to at least 19 servers of exchanges you are, or going to be be on, given that I'm versed in as to why a dedicated cable was ran from NYC to Chicago so to gain milliseconds when trading on legacy exchanges here in the States. You're the man!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 17, 2018, 10:40:18 PM
Why is it that if folks from the US can't participate in your ICO, you're allowing US citizens to participate in your bounty campaigns? --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4467190.0


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 17, 2018, 10:42:34 PM
it sounds kinda fishy

There's plenty about this "arbitrage platform" that smells "kinda fishy"....here's just three aspects of it that are atypical of previous scams which pretended to arbitrage.

1) The software is supposedly already successfully running and producing profit for anonymous "private investors".
2) The "Four types of Arbitrage pools" structure is exactly similar to HYIP script "investment opportunities" i.e. invest more, get higher
     return. There is no logic behind this structure for pooled equity trading.
3) Multi level marketing scheme attached.

That's without mentioning the Linkedin profiles, cliched marketing vids, emphasis on "community" blahblah, or the wallet or the internal exchange or the.......

1) At this moment Arbitao can perform a deep, real-time analysis on 10 of the biggest markets and hundreds of pairs. In fact, there are 671 unique pairs on which Arbitao is executing risk-free arbitrage trading.

We’re talking 24/7, real-time analysis of 671 unique pairs on 10 exchanges to discover every profitable arbitrage opportunity and execute successful trades. Since May 16th, 2018 Arbitao executed more than 2.5 million arbitrage trades!

This can be easily checked in the history at the Arbitao dashboard.

2) There is a very simple logic behind the pools we created. We wanted to reward those who invest more, with a higher interest rate return – as simple as that. Especially, as the daily interest rates have been calculated with a considerable margin for error.

3) All other ICOs spend millions of dollars on marketing by handing out big parts of their budgets to established marketing agencies. We wanted to do it differently, and decided to empower the Arbitao community with an affiliate program.

Arbitao is a fully-working product, generating profits for the early investors and, based on the historical data, we managed to assess what percentage of the profits we can allocate for this affiliate program.



And why do we need a wallet? - Where there’s a coin, a wallet is necessary. But also, in the future, we’re seeking to decentralize the computing power and the wallet will make it possible.

Thanks to the internal exchange investors will be able to withdraw the profits from arbitrage in BTC.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 17, 2018, 10:47:55 PM
Meanwhile, would you be so kind as to link to your charter in the UK - or anywhere else for that matter - because us Internet sleuths like myself are hard-pressed in uncovering any such documents in spite of Arbitao being incorporated since Dec. 2016.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/arbitao/


https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnkin/



Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 17, 2018, 10:52:15 PM
This calculator available in the portal of the project, in relation to that rate of profit of 0.5% in the Bronze plan will it always be this rate? Will there be any change over time?


The rate will not stay constant. At first, when we scale the operation, it will probably increase but as more and more competitors are joining the arbitrage market the price spreads will not be as high as nowadays.  It may result over time in a drop of daily interest  – but this is not going to happen soon.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: NeRoX82 on June 17, 2018, 11:07:06 PM
Why are people talking about a mysterious ‘ponzi’ scheme? What are the real proofs of Arbitao being the one?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: marlboroza on June 17, 2018, 11:10:16 PM
Arbitao is not promising a high return on investment.
https://i.imgur.com/MvfGC09.png

You didn't promise this?
Quote
Arbitao is a fully-working product, generating profits for the early investors
Then you don't need investors. You have fully working product which can give you 0.75% daily return. For what do you need $48,000,000?

Quote
We’re talking 24/7, real-time analysis of 671 unique pairs on 10 exchanges to discover every profitable arbitrage opportunity and execute successful trades. Since May 16th, 2018 Arbitao executed more than 2.5 million arbitrage trades!
https://preview.ibb.co/mVapUd/h_SPxxwjf_Rb2bx_Kv_Fm_U9hbw.png (https://ibb.co/fw4ipd)
Have you already raised $15M?
If not, how you are operating on 10 exchanges?
Why do you need ICO if you have fully operating project working on 10 exchanges? Trades are in your dashboard, right?
The rate will not stay constant. At first, when we scale the operation, it will probably increase but as more and more competitors are joining the arbitrage market the price spreads will not be as high as nowadays.  It may result over time in a drop of daily interest
What does it mean? If I invest $10000, I won't earn...
https://preview.ibb.co/hj7WaJ/4_IPa_P4_IWRy_Sef_Hg07_KLJEQ.png (https://ibb.co/jZthhy)
...up to $20500+ ?

What now? Can I earn 20500$ or not?


https://preview.ibb.co/c10v2y/asdf.png (https://ibb.co/hena2y)

Look at us, we like to build pyramids, but that girl in the front (on the left side) forget how our logo looks like, but that is ok, it still looks like pyramid.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: FeArZ on June 17, 2018, 11:10:27 PM
Well, storing funds in USD a good idea in terms of stability but still I have some questions:How USD will be stored? Does your wallet support fiat? What about security matter here?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: bensaipach on June 17, 2018, 11:20:54 PM
Hi guys! I’ve participated in ICO that is about arbitrage trading. What are your advantages compared to other similar companies ???

You can find a competitor analysis in our ten pager: https://static.arbitao.com/presskit/Arbitao_Ten_Pager.pdf

Main differences:

- tested working product (done)
- the least platform/commission fee (done)
- open for small, medium and big investors (done)
- already working with 19 exchanges (done)
- trades are transparent on the website (done)
- unique infrastructure which reduces latency by up to x100 (partly done)
- built on a dedicated blockchain, not ERC20 (done + improvements coming)
- decentralized contributing of computing power (WIP)
- use your own algorithms for arbitrage (WIP)

Hi, Is it possible for me to invest in the existing pools?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: suchmoon on June 17, 2018, 11:23:49 PM
Meanwhile, would you be so kind as to link to your charter in the UK - or anywhere else for that matter - because us Internet sleuths like myself are hard-pressed in uncovering any such documents in spite of Arbitao being incorporated since Dec. 2016.

Uh oh... could they be operating illegally in the UK for two years  :o

https://i.snag.gy/D8gvTN.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: armchair-84 on June 17, 2018, 11:34:43 PM
I love the idea that u suggest we are trading as a community and that there is no competition between users... but there will be no equal distribution of income, meaning those who invest and contribute more will get more profit, so there still be the ones who will get much less than others, for example really small investors


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 17, 2018, 11:38:54 PM
Arbitao is not promising a high return on investment.
https://i.imgur.com/MvfGC09.png

You didn't promise this?
Quote
Arbitao is a fully-working product, generating profits for the early investors
Then you don't need investors. You have fully working product which can give you 0.75% daily return. For what do you need $48,000,000?

Quote
We’re talking 24/7, real-time analysis of 671 unique pairs on 10 exchanges to discover every profitable arbitrage opportunity and execute successful trades. Since May 16th, 2018 Arbitao executed more than 2.5 million arbitrage trades!
https://preview.ibb.co/mVapUd/h_SPxxwjf_Rb2bx_Kv_Fm_U9hbw.png (https://ibb.co/fw4ipd)
Have you already raised $15M?
If not, how you are operating on 10 exchanges?
Why do you need ICO if you have fully operating project working on 10 exchanges? Trades are in your dashboard, right?
The rate will not stay constant. At first, when we scale the operation, it will probably increase but as more and more competitors are joining the arbitrage market the price spreads will not be as high as nowadays.  It may result over time in a drop of daily interest
What does it mean? If I invest $10000, I won't earn...
https://preview.ibb.co/hj7WaJ/4_IPa_P4_IWRy_Sef_Hg07_KLJEQ.png (https://ibb.co/jZthhy)
...up to $20500+ ?

What now? Can I earn 20500$ or not?


https://preview.ibb.co/c10v2y/asdf.png (https://ibb.co/hena2y)

Look at us, we like to build pyramids, but that girl in the front (on the left side) forget how our logo looks like, but that is ok, it still looks like pyramid.

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You didn't promise this?

The 0.75% profit is profit approximation of the system we have created and in general it gave out 0.75% profits but of course there are risks involved and hence we are not promising anything big yet.


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Have you already raised $15M?
If not, how you are operating on 10 exchanges?
Why do you need ICO if you have fully operating project working on 10 exchanges? Trades are in your dashboard, right?

The platform is working because of initial investors and yes arbitao covers 10 exchanges and yes you can check trading history in the dashboard, however we trade on small amounts. To cover all arbitrage opportunities on 10 exchanges and 671 unique pairs (based on daily trade volume and market depth) we need more money on the exhanges.


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What does it mean? If I invest $10000, I won't earn...

Since an investor you must be aware that yes the calculator shows the approximate profits but you may not earn the mentioned profits because the market is volatile and margins are changing every minute.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 17, 2018, 11:42:50 PM
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Arbitao is not promising a high return on investment.

In this space, doubling your money in 158 days is NOT considered a high return.

https://i.imgur.com/tRRtHWr.jpg
"Wait, is that Arbitao I see here in the room? If they're not promising high return on investments or capable of making it rain, get 'em up against the wall ... 'gainst the wall! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldsJ0laYn6s&feature=youtu.be&t=161)"

In the same vein as to what's linked ...

You better make your face up in your favourite disguise
With your button down lips and your roller blind eyes
With your empty smile and your hungry heart
Feel the bile rising from your guilty past
With your nerves in tatters as the cockle shell shatters
And the hammers batter down the door
You better run


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: marlboroza on June 18, 2018, 12:24:35 AM

The 0.75% profit is profit approximation of the system we have created and in general it gave out 0.75% profits but of course there are risks involved and hence we are not promising anything big yet.

Hey! The difference between the pools is the lock up period of your investment and the daily rate! The amount of invested money defines in which pool you will be in!

The timeframe/period related to pools stands for how long your invested starting capital will be locked up. It is locked up because the capital is used for arbitrage trading.

After the specified period is over, you are free to re-invest or withdraw your starting capital. (The daily profits are not locked up and can be re-invested or withdrawn at any time.)

Bronze Pool: Invest: 100$-1000$ Interest Rate: 0.5% per day Locking Period: 240 days

Silver Pool: Invest: 1001$-5000$ Interest Rate: 0.6% per day Locking Period: 190 days

Gold Pool: Invest: 5001$-10000$ Interest Rate: 0.7% per day Locking Period: 150 days

Platinum Pool: Invest: 10000+$ Interest Rate: 0.75% per day Locking Period: 120 days
So, you are not promising 0.75% daily for platinum pool?

Hey, what does this mean:
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The daily profits are not locked up and can be re-invested or withdrawn at any time
Can I compound that every day after 120 days?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: sahabond on June 18, 2018, 12:36:27 AM
Guys, am I right that the only fees are the fees from exchanges? wanna know if there are your own fees for using you service or you will only benefit from users helping to build the ecosystem?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: sabina.gnusareva on June 18, 2018, 01:35:07 AM
I don't get it fully too but the more computing power they have the more efficient the platform becomes. I mean there will probably be more possibilities for trading and you can earn more if the system is stronger)

You don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about, do you?
Sorry, crypto arb is a new thing for me, and that's what I understood from reading WP don't be mad 8) I would be greatful if you can explain this point to me :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: vodanhfu on June 18, 2018, 01:36:21 AM
Any aidrop plan for it?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Thoghellrevi on June 18, 2018, 01:53:13 AM
It's really great idea!
Irreproachable logo, judicious idea!  Good luck all.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 18, 2018, 06:07:06 AM
It's really great idea!
Irreproachable logo, judicious idea!  Good luck all.

+1 for their "irreproachable logo" observation ...  ::) ::) ::)


As for your "judicious idea" sentiment, gleaned from a book ...


Nailed it!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: kongCrypto on June 18, 2018, 11:44:13 AM
ARB is similar project and doing great but they don't have any lock-up period. if you are trading daily then how come there is lock period?
Also, $48million is an insane amount of money compared to similar projects that have raised around $5million.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 18, 2018, 12:11:21 PM
I must say I am pretty impressed...Like your style and whitepaper! I like that I can choose the right pool.

Are you sure that you will be able to choose the pool? As I understand it may be choosing randomly when the appropriate amount gathered? Or you just enter the pool you want and wait for guys joining you. I don’t know  :-\

You can choose in which pool you want to be. It just dependends on your investment. If you want to learn more about it just check out the website: https://www.arbitao.com


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 18, 2018, 01:23:17 PM
Do you have any referral programs? I mean could I make some additional profit from a number of users who I will be able to attract

Yes, we have a refferal program. If you want to learn more about how to profit with Arbitao pls check the following document:

https://static.arbitao.com/presskit/Arbitao_One_Pager_EN.pdf


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 18, 2018, 01:27:02 PM
The project is beautiful, but it’s interesting how the platform will function. Do you feel you allocated enough to maintain stable functionality? As for me one of the most important aspects


Yes, the profits are already covering all variable and fixed costs.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 18, 2018, 02:19:57 PM
I understand the concept of arbitrage platform, but I didn't expect referral system here. I know how it is beneficial for users who invite friends, but what are benefits for you except the community growth?

With this strategy we can reduce our marketing costs. Other ICOs are spending a lot of money on external agencies. We planned it in a different way and are rewarding the community instead of the agencies.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 18, 2018, 02:24:43 PM
This calculator available in the portal of the project, in relation to that rate of profit of 0.5% in the Bronze plan will it always be this rate? Will there be any change over time?


The rate will not stay constant. At first, when we scale the operation, it will probably increase but as more and more competitors are joining the arbitrage market the price spreads will not be as high as nowadays. It may result over time in a drop of daily interest – but this is not going to happen soon.

Furthermore, Arbitao does not guarantee fixed rates. They can vary. However, based on the tests Arbitao can currently distribute profits of up to 0.75% per day. However, in this case the customers will be informed.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 18, 2018, 02:53:42 PM
Their idea is quite attractive in my view! A very promising project, flawless vision!  Good luck.

Dude, you forgot to mention something ...

Hello, team.
Such business are becoming successful. Classy results,  good logo, arguable project!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Arbitao on June 18, 2018, 02:57:52 PM
Any aidrop plan for it?

Yes the Bounty is set up. Pls check: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4470823.0


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 18, 2018, 03:33:50 PM
Any aidrop plan for it?

Yes the Bounty is set up. Pls check: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4470823.0

I'll admit that you're doing a fine job in avoiding a very simple question advanced by others including myself, the question in question regarding ...

I understand that you probably can't just give the full algorithms and code because competitors are over your shoulder ::) But you need to provide far more transparency since the arbitrage process is automated. No pleasure from working with black box :-\

The answer to your question is included in the question itself, but we’ll be happy to answer any other questions you may have in the future.

Here's the question again ...

Can you provide a link to a government site depicting Arbitao's charter given that its been in business since December 2016?

Feel free to address, avoid or evade the following question: How the hell did John and Karel convince the construction crew to temporary remove the scaffolding around Big Ben so their picture could be taken in front of it back in May of this year for inclusion in Arbitao initial press release? I, among others, will safely assume that the pic wasn't Photoshopped, given that the general consensus of Investards commenting on this thread is that Arbitao is a trusted entity.

http://www.abnewswire.com/uploads/997779c2039a785c6e10a484a9054680.jpg
"BTW, Karel, I saved us 25% by having the scaffolding removed from ONLY 3 sides.
Seriously, if we're ever called out for this photo shoot, we'll tell the Fudsters that the dude who Photoshopped the image in erasing the scaffolding was fired."


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: suchmoon on June 18, 2018, 03:51:34 PM


1) stop serial posting, it's annoying and disrespectful to other users who get bombarded with notifications. Collect all answers into one post.
2) What's the company name and/or the company number of your UK business? "Arbitao" doesn't exist.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 18, 2018, 04:28:18 PM

http://www.abnewswire.com/uploads/997779c2039a785c6e10a484a9054680.jpg
"Karel, I couldn't help but noticed that ever since we onboard Bruno who resembles Marshall Long, you've been cupping your balls."


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 18, 2018, 04:53:36 PM
The person showcased in this vid - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieXZTmEw0qA - and is a member of this forum once gave me high marks for uncovering the name of his dog. In that vein, I uncovered John Kinsey's dog ...



Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: marlboroza on June 18, 2018, 04:58:58 PM
Can you introduce this team member to potential investors donors:

https://i.imgur.com/h8tZvW9.png

The guy who blinks too often. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBfuw5STNH4&feature=youtu.be&t=14

On side note,
https://i.imgur.com/z1hV9TW.png

Why he never blinks? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBfuw5STNH4&feature=youtu.be&t=43


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: tmfp on June 18, 2018, 05:16:46 PM
Can you introduce this team member to potential investors donors:

https://i.imgur.com/h8tZvW9.png

The guy who blinks too often.

You mean the guy from Fiverr?

I'm sure he came round my place with some pizzas last week, he does Deliveroo between acting gigs.
I think the blinking is down to those stage glasses they made him wear to give him gravitas, or he may have picked up an eye infection from the dirty London air riding his delivery scooter.
Hth.




I hope this project will be advance and can be arrived the hard cap of ICO.  Good luck devs!

Hey, put some effort into your shit posting. I especially like it when you use phrases like

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Sentient website, engaging approach!

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Impeccable idea, rational approach

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A rather interesting activity, irreproachable website, believable project!

My fav so far

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Arguable plan, very nice design, spotless activity.

reported.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: marlboroza on June 18, 2018, 05:51:57 PM
You mean the guy from Fiverr?

I'm sure he came round my place with some pizzas last week, he does Deliveroo between acting gigs.
I think the blinking is down to those stage glasses they made him wear to give him gravitas, or he may have picked up an eye infection from the dirty London air riding his delivery scooter.
Hth.
Maybe he was fired?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: ZuLLA141 on June 18, 2018, 06:14:36 PM
Your project interested me, however I have not so many money left in my budget for investing. Now I am thinking about joining a bronze pool may be


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 18, 2018, 06:28:58 PM
Can you introduce this team member to potential investors donors:

https://i.imgur.com/h8tZvW9.png

The guy who blinks too often.

You mean the guy from Fiverr?

I'm sure he came round my place with some pizzas last week, he does Deliveroo between acting gigs.
I think the blinking is down to those stage glasses they made him wear to give him gravitas, or he may have picked up an eye infection from the dirty London air riding his delivery scooter.
Hth.




I hope this project will be advance and can be arrived the hard cap of ICO.  Good luck devs!

Hey, put some effort into your shit posting. I especially like it when you use phrases like

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Sentient website, engaging approach!

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Impeccable idea, rational approach

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A rather interesting activity, irreproachable website, believable project!

My fav so far

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Arguable plan, very nice design, spotless activity.

reported.

I counted ~half a dozen of the Newbies commenting on this thread created their accounts on June 3rd and June 4th, 2018.

I contend that the guy who never blinks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBfuw5STNH4&feature=youtu.be&t=43 - is the fully automated arb system aka AI.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: GOZIC on June 18, 2018, 06:36:31 PM
Your project interested me, however I have not so many money left in my budget for investing. Now I am thinking about joining a bronze pool may be

The same, i cant afford to spend much at the moment, but here is good opportunity for small investing. But I am really disappointed because of skepticism around the project, especially the words of member of high ranks regarding their experience ???


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 18, 2018, 06:46:35 PM
Your project interested me, however I have not so many money left in my budget for investing. Now I am thinking about joining a bronze pool may be

The same, i cant afford to spend much at the moment, but here is good opportunity for small investing. But I am really disappointed because of skepticism around the project, especially the words of member of high ranks regarding their experience ???

It doesn't matter if the discontent is coming from high ranking members or not, for the proof is in the Yorkshire pudding.

I predict that after Arbitao's ICO, they'll play the HashCard card and claim that the Fudsters destroyed their venerable brand, whereupon they may or may not thank their Investards for all the fish as they ride into the sunset atop their miniature steeds with a posse behind as its leader yells, "Shoot a little lower, boys, they're ridin' Shetland ponies!" Sadly, nobody knows what time it is because the hands have been removed from Big Ben.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: AaronMosley on June 18, 2018, 06:49:25 PM
I expect this project will be advance and can be achieved the hard cap of Token Sales!
 Good luck DEVs.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 18, 2018, 06:51:39 PM
I expect this project will be advance and can be achieved the hard cap of Token Sales!
 Good luck DEVs.

Nice post, Mr. 6-3.

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Posts:   19
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Position:   Newbie
Date Registered:   June 03, 2018, 10:50:16 AM
Last Active:   Today at 11:49:24 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: mediocre777 on June 18, 2018, 07:17:39 PM
Thank you for translating both website and whitepaper to different languages! The project is complex enough I'd like not to miss any details :) appreciate the work done here


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 18, 2018, 07:19:33 PM
Just read posts by seasoned Redditers jacking off all over themselves because they can't wait to handover their precious to Arbitao upon reading the following ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Arbitao/comments/8qlmrw/arbitao_decentralizing_arbitrage/e0ny141/

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Let's say that you invest 1000 ATAO (which is 100 USD) for 240 days on the Arbitao platform (Bronze pool). Your daily interest rate, based on our historical performance, should be approx. 0.5%. Those daily interest are booked in USD on your account. The earned USD you can convert to ATAO and withdraw to your wallet or exchange it to BTC on the exchange. It's necessary because USD is a stable currency in comparison to cryptocurrencies, and such an approach is working as a security measure both for you and the platform.

If during the investment period (240 days) the crypto market goes significantly down or up, your initial investment plus the daily interest will not be effected as it is secured in USD. You will always receive stable profits.

Thank you for translating both website and whitepaper to different languages! The project is complex enough I'd like not to miss any details :) appreciate the work done here

This dude doesn't want to miss any details, yet has missed every detail depicting Arbitao as a scam. Fuckin amazing!!!

Carlos' Son: Daddy, what are you gonna do for your third hoorah?

Carlos: ArrrrrrrrrrrbitttttttttttaOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: rog1121 on June 18, 2018, 07:33:31 PM
Why is it that if folks from the US can't participate in your ICO, you're allowing US citizens to participate in your bounty campaigns? --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4467190.0
wait, for real? But that's not fair at all guys ??? Why you have to mislead your potential investors?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: kept-1986 on June 18, 2018, 07:42:36 PM
Difficult to say anything in particular... for me pros and cons balanced each other so not sure about investing... lets wait for pre-sale and see what happens then


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: tmfp on June 18, 2018, 07:43:14 PM

But I am really disappointed because of skepticism around the project, especially the words of member of high ranks regarding their experience ???

You should never be disappointed by skepticism my friend, but beware complacency and assumption at all times.
Our experience of arbitrage schemes in Bitcoin?
The perfect 10/10, I think. Scams, that is.

Anyway, yeah quite a few words from some of us, back to basics.

from the other thread

please let us know the UK company name of your employer.

Yeah, like who are Arbitao?
A supposedly London based 'entity', asking for $$zillions$$, which has no company registration, no address, no legal existence in any shape or form that they can/will provide. Even in ICOland, that's ridiculous.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: marlboroza on June 18, 2018, 07:48:50 PM
I contend that the guy who never blinks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBfuw5STNH4&feature=youtu.be&t=43 - is the fully automated arb system aka AI.
Logically, my stomach hurts.

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Arbitao did not offer (https://www.reddit.com/r/Arbitao/comments/8r2cgz/what_stage_is_it_at_the_moment_private_sale/e0o3e24/?context=3) a private sale as we don't want that big investors are dumping the bonus coins. We are focusing rather on the community.

The platform is working because of initial investors
I will find that guy who sells contradictions

I would rephrase the question: Who is here to use crypto for benefiting humankind, and who is here to use crypto for enriching himself?

After all, crypto - or more specifically technologies of decentralization like blockchains, tangles and hashgraphs - is a tool that can be used for better or for worse. It's not about the tech, but its users. Not about machines, but real people. I wish more people would try to work together to make the world a better place for everybody, instead of just trying to get rich quick.
But they are not, therefore I will run ponzi


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: sahabond on June 18, 2018, 07:55:18 PM
Why is it that if folks from the US can't participate in your ICO, you're allowing US citizens to participate in your bounty campaigns? --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4467190.0
wait, for real? But that's not fair at all guys ??? Why you have to mislead your potential investors?
See no problem here, its not even bounty campaign and these folks are not necessarily potential investors. People are paid for advertising their product, that's just a common practice in any promotion campaign, these guys are not obliged to invest or be the part of the project. What's with that? :-\


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Noriman on June 18, 2018, 08:11:42 PM

But I am really disappointed because of skepticism around the project, especially the words of member of high ranks regarding their experience ???

You should never be disappointed by skepticism my friend, but beware complacency and assumption at all times.
Our experience of arbitrage schemes in Bitcoin?
The perfect 10/10, I think. Scams, that is.

Anyway, yeah quite a few words from some of us, back to basics.

from the other thread

please let us know the UK company name of your employer.

Yeah, like who are Arbitao?
A supposedly London based 'entity', asking for $$zillions$$, which has no company registration, no address, no legal existence in any shape or form that they can/will provide. Even in ICOland, that's ridiculous.

Ok, I think.. what if I want to run my own ICO. I have an idea, do not have enough funds obviously. What should I do? To register a company? I suppose not. However, you are right, if they have a company they work for why not to specify on it. Moreover, if they are successful enough, why not to provide with the great results (if they do have such results), with some history of trading. But I saw so many projects with even idea only, without a business background. They were quite successful

I just can’t come up with the idea that team Arbitao are just trying to deceive someone. Probably I’m not experienced enough, or just not enough being Sherlock. But I don’t see any real bad things except one guy who blinks too much and another who doesn’t at all :D :D


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: tmfp on June 18, 2018, 08:24:32 PM
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one guy who blinks too much and another who doesn’t at all

Exactly.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 18, 2018, 08:45:22 PM

But I am really disappointed because of skepticism around the project, especially the words of member of high ranks regarding their experience ???

You should never be disappointed by skepticism my friend, but beware complacency and assumption at all times.
Our experience of arbitrage schemes in Bitcoin?
The perfect 10/10, I think. Scams, that is.

Anyway, yeah quite a few words from some of us, back to basics.

from the other thread

please let us know the UK company name of your employer.

Yeah, like who are Arbitao?
A supposedly London based 'entity', asking for $$zillions$$, which has no company registration, no address, no legal existence in any shape or form that they can/will provide. Even in ICOland, that's ridiculous.

Ok, I think.. what if I want to run my own ICO. I have an idea, do not have enough funds obviously. What should I do? To register a company? I suppose not. However, you are right, if they have a company they work for why not to specify on it. Moreover, if they are successful enough, why not to provide with the great results (if they do have such results), with some history of trading. But I saw so many projects with even idea only, without a business background. They were quite successful

I just can’t come up with the idea that team Arbitao are just trying to deceive someone. Probably I’m not experienced enough, or just not enough being Sherlock. But I don’t see any real bad things except one guy who blinks too much and another who doesn’t at all :D :D

I see what we did wrong. We gave too many crayons to dudes who don't know the difference between 'are' or 'is' when asking them to color within the lines in copying us as we paint a not-so-pretty picture of Arbitao.

That said, please pick only one crayon color and don't worry about staying within in the lines as we present to you a simply lesson ...

https://www.linkedin.com/company/arbitao/

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About us

Arbitao is a company headquartered in London with offices in Moscow and Hong Kong. We are harnessing the blockchain technology to help ordinary people achieve the extraordinary. We believe in teamwork but we treat one another with respect, value diversity and recognize that different people bring different perspectives, ideas and knowledge to the workplace.

For us, the interests of our community come first, and we are always ready to hear how we can improve. We believe innovation and invention is the only way to empower people to achieve more. Our goal for the next few years is to assist our end-users in creating a secure financial future for themselves and help them live the best version of their respective lives.

Arbitao is a company based in the UK.

The community has asked for the link so to view their charter.

Arbitao saw our questions.

Arbitao addresses replies to others, some most likely shills, ignoring said request.

Noriman comes on the scene and doesn't see how Arbitao is deceiving the community.

Bruno helps Noriman in seeing the light.

If Noriman doesn't see the light, he needs to exit the gene pool ASAP. PENDING


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Copulative on June 18, 2018, 09:09:43 PM
Arbitao is not promising a high return on investment. We leave a big margin for error.

Surely, everybody knows how arbitrage at regular exchanges works, but there’s a huge difference between regular exchanges and cryptocurrency exchanges. The cryptocurrency market is not fully regulated and there are substantially greater differences in prices between cryptocurrency pairs at different exchanges. As a result, profits from arbitrage can be much bigger. Multiply this by hundreds or even thousands of different pairs and the profits can be really huge.

The software is working and has been generating steady profit. The capital that the ICO will bring is going to be used for scaling the enterprise so we can cover dozens of new exchanges and thousands of new cryptocurrency pairs. This will results in increase of profits for all investors.
 
On the other hand, in time, the effect of the massive arbitrage that Arbitao is performing will reduce the price differences on different exchanges and the spread is going to shrink. It may result over time in the daily interest rates dropping as well.

At this moment, and thanks to the initial investors, Arbitao is executing arbitrage operations on 671 currency pairs across 10 biggest exchanges. Since May 16th 2018, Arbitao has already performed over 2.5 million successful arbitrage trades. The whole history is available on the dashboard when you sign in.

When you take all this into consideration, calling Arbitao a Ponzi scheme is completely unreasonable.

Arbitao doesn’t accept investors from the US, so of course it’s not registered with the SEC.

You claim that you've been operating this scheme since 2016 but there is nothing to be found about Arbitao more than a couple of months ago. Why is that?

If you'd put $100k into your scheme two years ago you'd have ~20 million today according to your claims. Or if you put $100k into today you'll have $20 million in two years. Why do you need other people's money? Why do you want to dilute your gains by pouring more money into it?

If the rate of return is not guaranteed, can it be negative?

If you're not registered with the SEC, which countries and regulatory agencies are you registered with?

I think you're missing the point of what I posted. The SEC "red flags" apply to any ponzi, no matter which country it operates in. Any ONE of those red flags is sufficient for any reasonable investor to run away from you as fast as they can. So it is very reasonable to suspect you're a ponzi given what we know so far. Good choice of a logo though, the pyramid suits you well.

Seemingly it was a closed beta with private investors, so that they could see if such arb can be implemented. But I think there still should be some info about how it all come about...


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Noriman on June 18, 2018, 09:34:12 PM
Oh my... you are just really funny man  ;D ;D
You can google it I suppose. And find out whether it is possible to use are here or not.
Actually I’m not sure about what you are doing here. What is your target? Your message?
Are you the founder of your own project? Is it a part of your marketing strategy?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 18, 2018, 09:59:37 PM
Oh my... you are just really funny man  ;D ;D
You can google it I suppose. And find out whether it is possible to use are here or not.
Actually I’m not sure about what you are doing here. What is your target? Your message?
Are you the founder of your own project? Is it a part of your marketing strategy?

Gulp! I guess one could use Google as you suggested in finding out whether "team Arbitao are just trying" or "team Arbitao is just trying" are correct, but ...


Meanwhile, ...

Sadly, I'm in the US, thus unable to access their trading platform.  :'( :'( :'( :'(

Arbitao security bot aka AI has successfully locked me out from joining the site because I'm in the US.

I've never in my life have seen such security in all my years on the Net.

I mean, the Arbitao site asked me if I'm a US citizen and I clicked yes, whereupon no joy.  :'( :'( :'( Them fuckers are good!

WAIT !!!

I have an idea. What if I ... BRB.

Okay, I'm in by tricking the security bot/AI, clinking the box declaring that I'm not a US citizens. Believe me when I say my balls were sweating for the two whole seconds the site took to approve my application. In essence, maybe I hacked their site.  ::)

Anyway, now that I'm in like Flint, I took a look-see at their live trades. At first glance, I was taken aback in seeing the millions I could be making via their platform until, that is, I realized within 1.5 seconds exactly what I was viewing - RSS feeds of select trades via APIs of exchanges (hence their phrase "working with these exchanges"). A simply script is employed to display the arb percentages is all. NONE of those trades are/were/or ever will be executed by us mere mortals.

User Arbitao replying to a shill's post in 5 ..... 4 .... 3 ...


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Zast on June 18, 2018, 10:00:37 PM
Well, initially after ICO ends you will be able to run your platform and start making some profit. You have chosen a small share regarding to the profit you will probably gain. What if you decide to rescale arbitao to the huge company. From what sources are you going to attract funds? I don’t feel like your share would be enough.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Martin_Iden on June 18, 2018, 10:06:21 PM
Arbitao is not promising a high return on investment. We leave a big margin for error.

Surely, everybody knows how arbitrage at regular exchanges works, but there’s a huge difference between regular exchanges and cryptocurrency exchanges. The cryptocurrency market is not fully regulated and there are substantially greater differences in prices between cryptocurrency pairs at different exchanges. As a result, profits from arbitrage can be much bigger. Multiply this by hundreds or even thousands of different pairs and the profits can be really huge.

The software is working and has been generating steady profit. The capital that the ICO will bring is going to be used for scaling the enterprise so we can cover dozens of new exchanges and thousands of new cryptocurrency pairs. This will results in increase of profits for all investors.
 
On the other hand, in time, the effect of the massive arbitrage that Arbitao is performing will reduce the price differences on different exchanges and the spread is going to shrink. It may result over time in the daily interest rates dropping as well.

At this moment, and thanks to the initial investors, Arbitao is executing arbitrage operations on 671 currency pairs across 10 biggest exchanges. Since May 16th 2018, Arbitao has already performed over 2.5 million successful arbitrage trades. The whole history is available on the dashboard when you sign in.

When you take all this into consideration, calling Arbitao a Ponzi scheme is completely unreasonable.

Arbitao doesn’t accept investors from the US, so of course it’s not registered with the SEC.

You claim that you've been operating this scheme since 2016 but there is nothing to be found about Arbitao more than a couple of months ago. Why is that?

If you'd put $100k into your scheme two years ago you'd have ~20 million today according to your claims. Or if you put $100k into today you'll have $20 million in two years. Why do you need other people's money? Why do you want to dilute your gains by pouring more money into it?

If the rate of return is not guaranteed, can it be negative?

If you're not registered with the SEC, which countries and regulatory agencies are you registered with?

I think you're missing the point of what I posted. The SEC "red flags" apply to any ponzi, no matter which country it operates in. Any ONE of those red flags is sufficient for any reasonable investor to run away from you as fast as they can. So it is very reasonable to suspect you're a ponzi given what we know so far. Good choice of a logo though, the pyramid suits you well.

Seemingly it was a closed beta with private investors, so that they could see if such arb can be implemented. But I think there still should be some info about how it all come about...
Hah, and then? Working product – very nice, why gathering investments? just use it and get money ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 18, 2018, 10:16:18 PM

I'll admit that that's some trading bot Al. Look at all them successful trades of various pairs on different exchanges executed at exactly 15:04:44, of which, BTW, was not all of them, capturing what was only on the scene for a brief moment during the rapid dynamic scrolling.

Meanwhile, Team Arbitao is like ...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Gold_Hat_portrayed_by_Alfonso_Bedoya.jpg
"UK business charter? WE DON'T HAVE TO SHOW NO STINKIN' BUSINESS CHARTER !!!
Now if you excuse us, we need to politely address our shills' replies."



Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Zast on June 18, 2018, 10:51:43 PM

I'll admit that that's some trading bot Al. Look at all them successful trades of various pairs on different exchanges executed at exactly 15:04:44, of which, BTW, was not all of them, capturing what was only on the scene for a brief moment during the rapid dynamic scrolling.

Meanwhile, Team Arbitao is like ...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Gold_Hat_portrayed_by_Alfonso_Bedoya.jpg
"UK business charter? WE DON'T HAVE TO SHOW NO STINKIN' BUSINESS CHARTER !!!
Now if you excuse us, we need to politely address our shills' replies."



Oh, that looks really interesting. Could it be possible because AI was calculating smth and bought - sold simultaneously at the ‘right moment’ ? Why do the volumes so small? Do you know where Arbitao’s server is located?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: P3 on June 18, 2018, 10:51:50 PM
Arbitao is not promising a high return on investment. We leave a big margin for error.

Surely, everybody knows how arbitrage at regular exchanges works, but there’s a huge difference between regular exchanges and cryptocurrency exchanges. The cryptocurrency market is not fully regulated and there are substantially greater differences in prices between cryptocurrency pairs at different exchanges. As a result, profits from arbitrage can be much bigger. Multiply this by hundreds or even thousands of different pairs and the profits can be really huge.

The software is working and has been generating steady profit. The capital that the ICO will bring is going to be used for scaling the enterprise so we can cover dozens of new exchanges and thousands of new cryptocurrency pairs. This will results in increase of profits for all investors.
 
On the other hand, in time, the effect of the massive arbitrage that Arbitao is performing will reduce the price differences on different exchanges and the spread is going to shrink. It may result over time in the daily interest rates dropping as well.

At this moment, and thanks to the initial investors, Arbitao is executing arbitrage operations on 671 currency pairs across 10 biggest exchanges. Since May 16th 2018, Arbitao has already performed over 2.5 million successful arbitrage trades. The whole history is available on the dashboard when you sign in.

When you take all this into consideration, calling Arbitao a Ponzi scheme is completely unreasonable.

Arbitao doesn’t accept investors from the US, so of course it’s not registered with the SEC.

You claim that you've been operating this scheme since 2016 but there is nothing to be found about Arbitao more than a couple of months ago. Why is that?

If you'd put $100k into your scheme two years ago you'd have ~20 million today according to your claims. Or if you put $100k into today you'll have $20 million in two years. Why do you need other people's money? Why do you want to dilute your gains by pouring more money into it?

If the rate of return is not guaranteed, can it be negative?

If you're not registered with the SEC, which countries and regulatory agencies are you registered with?

I think you're missing the point of what I posted. The SEC "red flags" apply to any ponzi, no matter which country it operates in. Any ONE of those red flags is sufficient for any reasonable investor to run away from you as fast as they can. So it is very reasonable to suspect you're a ponzi given what we know so far. Good choice of a logo though, the pyramid suits you well.

Seemingly it was a closed beta with private investors, so that they could see if such arb can be implemented. But I think there still should be some info about how it all come about...
Hah, and then? Working product – very nice, why gathering investments? just use it and get money ;)
I feel there were just a few folks checking out their platform, and as the strategy is with pools and contribution stuff plus all that pos thing, they just can't get income promised. For this idea to work they need to build a huge community and ecosystem


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 18, 2018, 11:06:18 PM
I wish you advance. Very nice project, sensible activity, unblemished design.

Thanks, Mr. 6-3, for you irrefutable unblemished insight.

Where do Investards go and what do they do after sending Arbitao their precious, you ask? This --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs2j8f7H2WY


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Derrick on June 19, 2018, 12:07:45 AM
Arbitao is not promising a high return on investment. We leave a big margin for error.

Surely, everybody knows how arbitrage at regular exchanges works, but there’s a huge difference between regular exchanges and cryptocurrency exchanges. The cryptocurrency market is not fully regulated and there are substantially greater differences in prices between cryptocurrency pairs at different exchanges. As a result, profits from arbitrage can be much bigger. Multiply this by hundreds or even thousands of different pairs and the profits can be really huge.

The software is working and has been generating steady profit. The capital that the ICO will bring is going to be used for scaling the enterprise so we can cover dozens of new exchanges and thousands of new cryptocurrency pairs. This will results in increase of profits for all investors.
 
On the other hand, in time, the effect of the massive arbitrage that Arbitao is performing will reduce the price differences on different exchanges and the spread is going to shrink. It may result over time in the daily interest rates dropping as well.

At this moment, and thanks to the initial investors, Arbitao is executing arbitrage operations on 671 currency pairs across 10 biggest exchanges. Since May 16th 2018, Arbitao has already performed over 2.5 million successful arbitrage trades. The whole history is available on the dashboard when you sign in.

When you take all this into consideration, calling Arbitao a Ponzi scheme is completely unreasonable.

Arbitao doesn’t accept investors from the US, so of course it’s not registered with the SEC.

You claim that you've been operating this scheme since 2016 but there is nothing to be found about Arbitao more than a couple of months ago. Why is that?

If you'd put $100k into your scheme two years ago you'd have ~20 million today according to your claims. Or if you put $100k into today you'll have $20 million in two years. Why do you need other people's money? Why do you want to dilute your gains by pouring more money into it?

If the rate of return is not guaranteed, can it be negative?

If you're not registered with the SEC, which countries and regulatory agencies are you registered with?

I think you're missing the point of what I posted. The SEC "red flags" apply to any ponzi, no matter which country it operates in. Any ONE of those red flags is sufficient for any reasonable investor to run away from you as fast as they can. So it is very reasonable to suspect you're a ponzi given what we know so far. Good choice of a logo though, the pyramid suits you well.

Seemingly it was a closed beta with private investors, so that they could see if such arb can be implemented. But I think there still should be some info about how it all come about...
Hah, and then? Working product – very nice, why gathering investments? just use it and get money ;)
I feel there were just a few folks checking out their platform, and as the strategy is with pools and contribution stuff plus all that pos thing, they just can't get income promised. For this idea to work they need to build a huge community and ecosystem
You mean they get negative arbitrage because of inefficiency and now have to cover their expenses with my investments ???


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: fbatyshev_007 on June 19, 2018, 12:27:08 AM
Arbitao is not promising a high return on investment. We leave a big margin for error.

Surely, everybody knows how arbitrage at regular exchanges works, but there’s a huge difference between regular exchanges and cryptocurrency exchanges. The cryptocurrency market is not fully regulated and there are substantially greater differences in prices between cryptocurrency pairs at different exchanges. As a result, profits from arbitrage can be much bigger. Multiply this by hundreds or even thousands of different pairs and the profits can be really huge.

The software is working and has been generating steady profit. The capital that the ICO will bring is going to be used for scaling the enterprise so we can cover dozens of new exchanges and thousands of new cryptocurrency pairs. This will results in increase of profits for all investors.
 
On the other hand, in time, the effect of the massive arbitrage that Arbitao is performing will reduce the price differences on different exchanges and the spread is going to shrink. It may result over time in the daily interest rates dropping as well.

At this moment, and thanks to the initial investors, Arbitao is executing arbitrage operations on 671 currency pairs across 10 biggest exchanges. Since May 16th 2018, Arbitao has already performed over 2.5 million successful arbitrage trades. The whole history is available on the dashboard when you sign in.

When you take all this into consideration, calling Arbitao a Ponzi scheme is completely unreasonable.

Arbitao doesn’t accept investors from the US, so of course it’s not registered with the SEC.

You claim that you've been operating this scheme since 2016 but there is nothing to be found about Arbitao more than a couple of months ago. Why is that?

If you'd put $100k into your scheme two years ago you'd have ~20 million today according to your claims. Or if you put $100k into today you'll have $20 million in two years. Why do you need other people's money? Why do you want to dilute your gains by pouring more money into it?

If the rate of return is not guaranteed, can it be negative?

If you're not registered with the SEC, which countries and regulatory agencies are you registered with?

I think you're missing the point of what I posted. The SEC "red flags" apply to any ponzi, no matter which country it operates in. Any ONE of those red flags is sufficient for any reasonable investor to run away from you as fast as they can. So it is very reasonable to suspect you're a ponzi given what we know so far. Good choice of a logo though, the pyramid suits you well.

Seemingly it was a closed beta with private investors, so that they could see if such arb can be implemented. But I think there still should be some info about how it all come about...
Hah, and then? Working product – very nice, why gathering investments? just use it and get money ;)
I feel there were just a few folks checking out their platform, and as the strategy is with pools and contribution stuff plus all that pos thing, they just can't get income promised. For this idea to work they need to build a huge community and ecosystem
You mean they get negative arbitrage because of inefficiency and now have to cover their expenses with my investments ???
man I doubt it... if you have a good programmed algorithm you won't get negative arb here. they need investments and participants to make thing more powerful and strong to cover more exchanges and get more possibilities, and they share all the income with the users in return. Team-arb of some sort :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: jewel1992 on June 19, 2018, 12:42:52 AM
The distribution of profit of Arbitao is really awesome. It has different bounty programmes, which i like most. And its coin price is reasonable.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Cool-Isge on June 19, 2018, 12:44:41 AM
Seems good project! A very excellent logo, brilliant project.  Good luck all!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 19, 2018, 12:47:13 AM
Seems good project! A very excellent logo, brilliant project.  Good luck all!

Thanks, Mr. 6-4, for your brilliant insight.

Meanwhile, ...



Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: angel55 on June 19, 2018, 01:48:22 AM
https://i.imgur.com/sb25suB.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 19, 2018, 01:51:56 AM
The distribution of profit of Arbitao is really awesome. It has different bounty programmes, which i like most. And its coin price is reasonable.

I like that there's no shills with a British accent in this thread. Oh, and such logo.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Strufmbae on June 19, 2018, 07:05:54 AM
I wanna hear the explanation of op why did he get red flags from a DT member? However,  i want to support the project but need further explanation so that i can advertise the project since i am a participant of the campaign.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 19, 2018, 07:28:11 AM
I wanna hear the explanation of op why did he get red flags from a DT member? However,  i want to support the project but need further explanation so that i can advertise the project since i am a participant of the campaign.

Good luck with that given that he's been AWOL for over 24 hours (PST) ...

Quote
Name:   Arbitao
Posts:   68
Activity:   28
Merit:   0
Position:   Copper Member
Date Registered:   May 03, 2018, 05:52:41 AM
Last Active:   June 18, 2018, 02:10:29 PM

So tell us, Mr. 6-21, what proof do you need in proving that Arbitao is a scam? Thanks to my and others' efforts, we'll save Investards moneys, whereas your effort will cost them moneys.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: kamarchek on June 19, 2018, 07:42:36 AM
I wanna hear the explanation of op why did he get red flags from a DT member? However,  i want to support the project but need further explanation so that i can advertise the project since i am a participant of the campaign.

Agree. More details are needed to describe the situation around artbitao. If you could refute all the negative assumptions you may get a very high trust level. Please take it seriously


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: UnIvErS on June 19, 2018, 08:49:14 AM
Well, since you consider your pools in USD the reasonable question is what happens to the investors if crypto fluctuates a lot. Imagine I invested $100 so I must in the ‘worst’ pool. After BTC sharply goes down and so I am out of the pool? Do you fix the rates when investors join the platform?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: McOdin on June 19, 2018, 01:55:42 PM
Well, since you consider your pools in USD the reasonable question is what happens to the investors if crypto fluctuates a lot. Imagine I invested $100 so I must in the ‘worst’ pool. After BTC sharply goes down and so I am out of the pool? Do you fix the rates when investors join the platform?

By following the telegram chat they explained that  the investment and the profits will be secured in USD, which means that it doesnt matter in which direction it goes, you will get stable profits. In my opinion it is not possible to get kicked out of the pool as your investment is in USD.

Quote
Do you fix the rates when investors join the platform?

On the website they are stating daily interests but they also state that it may change. In my opinion this is reasonable as you cannot know hwo market will develop.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: HelloGarci on June 19, 2018, 02:53:08 PM
There are really nice discounts for the PRE-ICO. Then people can invest in the pools immediately. When they realize the profits i even think that the dump afterwards will not be big, because of flippening.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: etraderhart on June 19, 2018, 04:03:29 PM
There are really nice discounts for the PRE-ICO. Then people can invest in the pools immediately. When they realize the profits i even think that the dump afterwards will not be big, because of flippening.

im not sure if you understand the concept of flippening. Or do you mean that ppl will keep it because of the generated profits???


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: culvert.1986 on June 19, 2018, 04:35:55 PM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: sahabond on June 19, 2018, 04:44:31 PM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: etraderhart on June 19, 2018, 04:48:46 PM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place

i actually think that speed is the most crucial as you are trading against other competitors


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Strufmbae on June 19, 2018, 05:09:49 PM
Thanks to DT members and sir yahoo62278 that he stopped the campaign because i also don't support scam project.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Copulative on June 19, 2018, 06:06:00 PM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place
Shame people with a slight knowledge of how arb works try to explain to others the strategies :( your bot or whatever will never ever make good arb till the speed is high enough... any packet loss —-> forget about money


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: mt55 on June 19, 2018, 06:46:44 PM
I have asked myself if you can build a platform for arbitrage trading and exploit all that potential to make a lot of money for your customers, why don't you just do it yourself and not disclose the code to the public and let them benefit?


It’s all about the numbers.. if you do it on your own you cannot earn such big money. Quite obvious that 10 guys on average have more money than 1 single man. When you have more money in trading you have more flexibility and have more options where to invest, which instrument to buy etc.. you may also lower the risks. You probably cannot do great things on your own because of a huge competitiveness. If you are alone then you must trade against huge companies which understand how to steal money from little investors :) Cooperation here brings lots of advantages. And if you run such a company you do not risk your own money. The idea is not the only thing that brings success

Let's assume for a second the system is as bullet-proof as you say. Profits are guaranteed! Why don't you pitch this to a multibillionaire and tell him that you developed a money printing machine which you would now want to sell to him.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 19, 2018, 07:07:59 PM
Well, since you consider your pools in USD the reasonable question is what happens to the investors if crypto fluctuates a lot. Imagine I invested $100 so I must in the ‘worst’ pool. After BTC sharply goes down and so I am out of the pool? Do you fix the rates when investors join the platform?

By following the telegram chat they explained that  the investment and the profits will be secured in USD, which means that it doesnt matter in which direction it goes, you will get stable profits. In my opinion it is not possible to get kicked out of the pool as your investment is in USD.

Quote
Do you fix the rates when investors join the platform?

On the website they are stating daily interests but they also state that it may change. In my opinion this is reasonable as you cannot know hwo market will develop.

There are really nice discounts for the PRE-ICO. Then people can invest in the pools immediately. When they realize the profits i even think that the dump afterwards will not be big, because of flippening.

Couldn't help but noticed that your two accounts were created on the same day only ~3 hours apart. What are the odd?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 19, 2018, 07:11:44 PM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place

How did you miss it? Arbitao stated that they will locate their servers as close to the 19 exchanges' servers as humanly possible so to decrease latency.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 19, 2018, 07:14:12 PM
I have asked myself if you can build a platform for arbitrage trading and exploit all that potential to make a lot of money for your customers, why don't you just do it yourself and not disclose the code to the public and let them benefit?


It’s all about the numbers.. if you do it on your own you cannot earn such big money. Quite obvious that 10 guys on average have more money than 1 single man. When you have more money in trading you have more flexibility and have more options where to invest, which instrument to buy etc.. you may also lower the risks. You probably cannot do great things on your own because of a huge competitiveness. If you are alone then you must trade against huge companies which understand how to steal money from little investors :) Cooperation here brings lots of advantages. And if you run such a company you do not risk your own money. The idea is not the only thing that brings success

Let's assume for a second the system is as bullet-proof as you say. Profits are guaranteed! Why don't you pitch this to a multibillionaire and tell him that you developed a money printing machine which you would now want to sell to him.

Because it's all about rewarding the little guys, for the Daddy Warbucks in this space have enough. HOW FUCKIN NOBLE OF THEM !!!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: suchmoon on June 19, 2018, 07:19:56 PM
Let's assume for a second the system is as bullet-proof as you say. Profits are guaranteed! Why don't you pitch this to a multibillionaire and tell him that you developed a money printing machine which you would now want to sell to him.

Or max out your credit card and turn $100k into $20 million in two years. Then $20 million into $4 billion in two more years. About 7 years from now you would have all the money in the world.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: P3 on June 19, 2018, 07:32:58 PM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place
Shame people with a slight knowledge of how arb works try to explain to others the strategies :( your bot or whatever will never ever make good arb till the speed is high enough... any packet loss —-> forget about money
okay, but Arbitao claims to have only positive algorithm, you can't lose many with it


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: FeArZ on June 19, 2018, 08:37:53 PM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place
Shame people with a slight knowledge of how arb works try to explain to others the strategies :( your bot or whatever will never ever make good arb till the speed is high enough... any packet loss —-> forget about money
okay, but Arbitao claims to have only positive algorithm, you can't lose many with it
man, just trust me, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have such algorithm, there ALWAYS will be a possibility of failure and the possibility is higher if network is slow


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 19, 2018, 08:43:03 PM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place
Shame people with a slight knowledge of how arb works try to explain to others the strategies :( your bot or whatever will never ever make good arb till the speed is high enough... any packet loss —-> forget about money
okay, but Arbitao claims to have only positive algorithm, you can't lose many with it

Introducing Sh0rta0 (STA0), where my team has made millions since 2016 and now want to enrich the little guys via our bespoke negative algorithm bot, namely shorting cryptos by trading pairs across ALL the exchanges where our severs are located where their servers are located so to decrease latency.

<insert image of Sh0rta0's CEO and CTO in front of a discarded moon rover here>


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: tippytoes on June 19, 2018, 08:49:01 PM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place
Shame people with a slight knowledge of how arb works try to explain to others the strategies :( your bot or whatever will never ever make good arb till the speed is high enough... any packet loss —-> forget about money
okay, but Arbitao claims to have only positive algorithm, you can't lose many with it

Introducing Sh0rta0 (STA0), where my team has made millions since 2016 and now want to enrich the little guys via our bespoke negative algorithm bot, namely shorting cryptos by trading pairs across ALL the exchanges where our severs are located where their servers are located so to decrease latency.

<insert image of Sh0rta0's CEO and CTO in front of a discarded moon rover here>

I thought arbitao is a legit project as I saw that yahoo was the campaign manager. But, yahoo halted the campaign and saw his post. Now, reading other posts here, this is really shady. If the allegations are not true or no basis at all, the team should addressed this but to no avail. At least, people are warned early.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 19, 2018, 09:16:39 PM
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Name:   Arbitao
Posts:   68
Activity:   28
Merit:   0
Position:   Copper Member
Date Registered:   May 03, 2018, 05:52:41 AM
Last Active:   Today at 06:39:49 AM

He came, he saw, he read, he said, "Fuck it! Exposed by a fuckin giant broken clock."


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: obulynin on June 19, 2018, 09:39:57 PM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place
Shame people with a slight knowledge of how arb works try to explain to others the strategies :( your bot or whatever will never ever make good arb till the speed is high enough... any packet loss —-> forget about money
okay, but Arbitao claims to have only positive algorithm, you can't lose many with it
man, just trust me, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have such algorithm, there ALWAYS will be a possibility of failure and the possibility is higher if network is slow
actually u can do such perfect bot ::) you have to include possible latency issues in the calculations, so that algorithm doesn't execute anything if there is a certain amount of risk


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: avtaev.savva on June 19, 2018, 11:42:51 PM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place
Shame people with a slight knowledge of how arb works try to explain to others the strategies :( your bot or whatever will never ever make good arb till the speed is high enough... any packet loss —-> forget about money
okay, but Arbitao claims to have only positive algorithm, you can't lose many with it
man, just trust me, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have such algorithm, there ALWAYS will be a possibility of failure and the possibility is higher if network is slow
actually u can do such perfect bot ::) you have to include possible latency issues in the calculations, so that algorithm doesn't execute anything if there is a certain amount of risk
soooooooo what? you aware that with such 'smart calculations' your algorithm will make an extremely slow amount of trading, you will get almost no profit at all :-\ so if Arbitao promising such algorithm they should take latency in consideration first


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: sacskate on June 19, 2018, 11:46:14 PM
Hello Arbitao team.. I haven’t fully understand the idea with open pools. What does it mean??


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 20, 2018, 12:55:21 AM
Hello Arbitao team.. I haven’t fully understand the idea with open pools. What does it mean??


By the looks of your post history, it means that you can continue to ask or add mundane content to threads in this section in satisfying your sig campaign commitment.

See how fuckin easy it is to see through bullshit like Arbitao or as to why you're really in this thread because you forgot to comment on their unrivaled logo.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: rog1121 on June 20, 2018, 01:26:37 AM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place
Shame people with a slight knowledge of how arb works try to explain to others the strategies :( your bot or whatever will never ever make good arb till the speed is high enough... any packet loss —-> forget about money
okay, but Arbitao claims to have only positive algorithm, you can't lose many with it
man, just trust me, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have such algorithm, there ALWAYS will be a possibility of failure and the possibility is higher if network is slow
actually u can do such perfect bot ::) you have to include possible latency issues in the calculations, so that algorithm doesn't execute anything if there is a certain amount of risk
soooooooo what? you aware that with such 'smart calculations' your algorithm will make an extremely slow amount of trading, you will get almost no profit at all :-\ so if Arbitao promising such algorithm they should take latency in consideration first
agree, bro :) especially cryptocurrencies trading where rates changes are crazy. low latency is the main if not only way to make up for volatility


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: hov777 on June 20, 2018, 02:33:29 AM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place
Shame people with a slight knowledge of how arb works try to explain to others the strategies :( your bot or whatever will never ever make good arb till the speed is high enough... any packet loss —-> forget about money
okay, but Arbitao claims to have only positive algorithm, you can't lose many with it
man, just trust me, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have such algorithm, there ALWAYS will be a possibility of failure and the possibility is higher if network is slow
actually u can do such perfect bot ::) you have to include possible latency issues in the calculations, so that algorithm doesn't execute anything if there is a certain amount of risk
soooooooo what? you aware that with such 'smart calculations' your algorithm will make an extremely slow amount of trading, you will get almost no profit at all :-\ so if Arbitao promising such algorithm they should take latency in consideration first
agree, bro :) especially cryptocurrencies trading where rates changes are crazy. low latency is the main if not only way to make up for volatility
Arbitao knows about this problem for sure, as i got it their solution is placing some servers close to exchange servers?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 20, 2018, 02:37:41 AM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place
Shame people with a slight knowledge of how arb works try to explain to others the strategies :( your bot or whatever will never ever make good arb till the speed is high enough... any packet loss —-> forget about money
okay, but Arbitao claims to have only positive algorithm, you can't lose many with it
man, just trust me, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have such algorithm, there ALWAYS will be a possibility of failure and the possibility is higher if network is slow
actually u can do such perfect bot ::) you have to include possible latency issues in the calculations, so that algorithm doesn't execute anything if there is a certain amount of risk
soooooooo what? you aware that with such 'smart calculations' your algorithm will make an extremely slow amount of trading, you will get almost no profit at all :-\ so if Arbitao promising such algorithm they should take latency in consideration first
agree, bro :) especially cryptocurrencies trading where rates changes are crazy. low latency is the main if not only way to make up for volatility
Arbitao knows about this problem for sure, as i got it their solution is placing some servers close to exchange servers?

Jesus motherfuckin Christ, I've already echoed Arbitao's approach to the latency concern, yet others keep bringing it up, not reading what they said, then I parroted.

Can we fuckin get back to talking about their impeccable logo? THANK YOU !!!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: stalin2517 on June 20, 2018, 03:39:54 AM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place
Shame people with a slight knowledge of how arb works try to explain to others the strategies :( your bot or whatever will never ever make good arb till the speed is high enough... any packet loss —-> forget about money
okay, but Arbitao claims to have only positive algorithm, you can't lose many with it
man, just trust me, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have such algorithm, there ALWAYS will be a possibility of failure and the possibility is higher if network is slow
actually u can do such perfect bot ::) you have to include possible latency issues in the calculations, so that algorithm doesn't execute anything if there is a certain amount of risk
soooooooo what? you aware that with such 'smart calculations' your algorithm will make an extremely slow amount of trading, you will get almost no profit at all :-\ so if Arbitao promising such algorithm they should take latency in consideration first
agree, bro :) especially cryptocurrencies trading where rates changes are crazy. low latency is the main if not only way to make up for volatility
Arbitao knows about this problem for sure, as i got it their solution is placing some servers close to exchange servers?
Yeah, that's what they say. But are these servers ready or do they only plan to build some? Does every exchange will have arbitao servers behind or only big ones?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 20, 2018, 03:11:43 PM
I've been privy to see the exchange (no pun intended) between Arbitao and crypto exchanges in their attempt to locate the exchanges' servers so that Arbitao could place their decentralized servers (thing about that for a sec) as close as possible to the exchanges' servers. The following is the last one of the exchanges (double entendre) ...

John Kinsey: Hello, Exchange #19, where are your servers located?

Exchange #19: You're kidding, right? <CLICK!>

John Kinsey: Well, that didn't go as expected. I can't figure out why any of the exchanges, some practicing anonymity, won't tell us where their servers are located.  Hope we have better luck with the photo shoot today. It's high noon, thus the scaffolding surrounding Big Ben should already be taken down, and a second center tower should already be constructed. The weatherman said it's gonna be a beautiful sunny day here in London. I duly hope that the cameraman doesn't forget to bring the bi-focal out-of-focus lens. Shit, almost forgot to lube up my left palm with Jergens® lotion in case Karel Mirrin wants to get frisky.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: hov777 on June 20, 2018, 08:45:45 PM
yep, a few red flags and situation around project is cloudy :( i was dreaming of arb opportunity like that and it would be nice if the platform really worked as they promise... i will probably make only the minimal investment just in case


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: mad_max777 on June 20, 2018, 08:53:23 PM
yep, a few red flags and situation around project is cloudy :( i was dreaming of arb opportunity like that and it would be nice if the platform really worked as they promise... i will probably make only the minimal investment just in case
How much is the minimal investment? Is it 0.1 USD as the price of their coin?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: suchmoon on June 20, 2018, 08:56:58 PM
yep, a few red flags [...] i will probably make only the minimal investment just in case

May I suggest that you donate a minimal amount to a charity instead?


Jackpot!!!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 20, 2018, 09:41:03 PM
yep, a few red flags and situation around project is cloudy :( i was dreaming of arb opportunity like that and it would be nice if the platform really worked as they promise... i will probably make only the minimal investment just in case

Just in case another post of yours gets flagged, thus still having enough post history in satisfying your sig campaign commitment?

FWIW, I'll give you credit for at least reading the latest in this thread opposed to just its OP or merely the thread's title prior to commenting.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: KrIp on June 20, 2018, 11:06:02 PM
Any public events especially big ones you plan to participate in the future? Want to see your team in real conversation, which could restore your name.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 20, 2018, 11:29:54 PM
Any public events especially big ones you plan to participate in the future? Want to see your team in real conversation, which could restore your name.

I don't think that Team Arbitao is planning on attending any future crypto-themed events now that my friend, Ross Davis, will be awaiting their arrival so to stick a microscope up their ass. If you're not versed as to who Ross is, watch this --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjkS-9y_0PI.

I'm pretty sure that's why they fear returning to this thread ...

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Name:   Arbitao
Posts:   68
Activity:   28
Merit:   0
Position:   Copper Member
Date Registered:   May 03, 2018, 05:52:41 AM
Last Active:   Today at 09:50:14 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Copulative on June 20, 2018, 11:34:13 PM
yep, a few red flags and situation around project is cloudy :( i was dreaming of arb opportunity like that and it would be nice if the platform really worked as they promise... i will probably make only the minimal investment just in case
How much is the minimal investment? Is it 0.1 USD as the price of their coin?
yes, price now is 0.1 USD, but you can't invest not joining the pool, 100$ is the min investment


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: obulynin on June 20, 2018, 11:42:14 PM
yep, a few red flags and situation around project is cloudy :( i was dreaming of arb opportunity like that and it would be nice if the platform really worked as they promise... i will probably make only the minimal investment just in case
How much is the minimal investment? Is it 0.1 USD as the price of their coin?
yes, price now is 0.1 USD, but you can't invest not joining the pool, 100$ is the min investment
100$ ??? that's quite a lot as the project is aimed at even small investors, 100$ can be a huge risk there, need more guarantees


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: suchmoon on June 20, 2018, 11:51:58 PM

Holy crap, they're building a sideways pyramid again.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 21, 2018, 12:49:58 AM

Horton Hears a Hunch ...

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Name:   Copulative
Posts:   366
Activity:   280
Merit:   100
Position:   Full Member
Date Registered:   December 24, 2013, 09:09:44 AM
Last Active:   Today at 04:36:02 PM

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Name:   obulynin
Posts:   254
Activity:   196
Merit:   10
Position:   Member
Date Registered:   October 21, 2017, 10:31:12 AM
Last Active:   Today at 04:57:10 PM

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Name:   mad_max777
Posts:   236
Activity:   196
Merit:   10
Position:   Member
Date Registered:   October 20, 2017, 12:02:53 AM
Last Active:   Today at 01:53:49 PM

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Name:   hov777
Posts:   223
Activity:   210
Merit:   10
Position:   Member
Date Registered:   October 19, 2017, 11:47:53 PM
Last Active:   Today at 01:45:45 PM

I'm guessing that if one reviews their post histories, they'll uncover that all four accounts are possibly connected.

I'll start with Copulative's post history where after being inactive for a spell, he fired the account back up (if not a newly purchase) on November 26, 2017, penning posts longer than one sentence like as ALL his previous posts.


Besides Copulative (no proof yet), the other three have ALL commented in the Russian section of this forum.

Copulative has proven to be slow in recognizing scams --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3240261.msg33742709#msg33742709


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: yaroslava.pryanchikova on June 21, 2018, 01:12:20 AM
guys already asked about PoS in this thread but no one gave a proper explanation, i am interested in pros and cons of this system


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: mediocre777 on June 21, 2018, 01:18:49 AM
guys already asked about PoS in this thread but no one gave a proper explanation, i am interested in pros and cons of this system
WP says that PoS - energy-saving, truly decentralized, no special technical knowledge needed. however sounds not that convincing ???


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 21, 2018, 01:21:37 AM
guys already asked about PoS in this thread but no one gave a proper explanation, i am interested in pros and cons of this system

Another Russian dude who created his account during the same time period as the other three Russians dudes depicted in my last post above ...

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Name:   yaroslava.pryanchikova
Posts:   229
Activity:   196
Merit:   10
Position:   Member
Date Registered:   October 21, 2017, 10:05:19 AM
Last Active:   Today at 06:12:20 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: suchmoon on June 21, 2018, 01:22:29 AM
guys already asked about PoS in this thread but no one gave a proper explanation, i am interested in pros and cons of this system
WP says that PoS - energy-saving, truly decentralized, no special technical knowledge needed. however sounds not that convincing ???

Another jackpotass registered October 20... what are the odds?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 21, 2018, 01:28:16 AM
guys already asked about PoS in this thread but no one gave a proper explanation, i am interested in pros and cons of this system
WP says that PoS - energy-saving, truly decentralized, no special technical knowledge needed. however sounds not that convincing ???

Another jackpotass registered October 20... what are the odds?

And another Russian with 777 as part of their moniker ...

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Name:   mediocre777
Posts:   172
Activity:   170
Merit:   10
Position:   Member
Date Registered:   October 20, 2017, 04:36:50 AM
Last Active:   Today at 06:18:46 PM

What fuckin retards. Here I am listing related alts and more come outta the woodwork so that they too can be associated with the rest. Fuckin amazing!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 21, 2018, 01:53:36 AM
I found a Kinsey user account ...

http://cashbag.io : igorevich808
Follow date: 28-february-2018
Telegram: @igorevich808
Account twitter: https://twitter.com/greater87

https://twitter.com/greater87


Not only does he lift but Mиcтep Гappиcoн translates to ... wait for it ... Mr. Garrison. In essence it's possible I nailed the Karel-tickling-John's-left-palm sentiment.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 21, 2018, 04:14:25 AM
Update:

https://forum.icoreview.site/t/arbitao-ico-review-discussion/13842

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Arbitao is a passive income project that leverages on arbitrage opportunities between 44 different exchanges.

If you thought 19 servers was GAWsome, wrap your head around Arbitao's attempt in locating millions of decentralized servers as close as possible to 44 exchanges' servers, some of which in secret location.



Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 21, 2018, 08:12:09 PM
Since the Trust thingy is not indexed by Google, I present the following (not taking the time to correctly format it) ...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2084637

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Lutpin   2018-06-19   0.00000000   Reference   Despite promises to answer questions regarding several red flags with their project, arbitao so far failed to explain any of the many shady aspects around what they claim to be or do.

marlboroza   2018-06-19   0.00000000   Reference   This ICO raised too many red flags(plagiarism parts of whitepaper and tos from various projects, 2 year old company with headquarters in london while such company can't be found, promising high daily returns 0.5% - 0.75% while they claim they are not promising them, they claim platform is working because of initial investors while at the same time they claim they didn't offer private sale, refused to answer questions asked), all indicates that this project is ponzi.
Read https://archive.fo/SWOmF and https://archive.fo/gb5Gh

suchmoon   2018-06-16   0.00000000   Reference   Yet another ponzi masquerading as an "arbitrage" service.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: suchmoon on June 21, 2018, 08:16:23 PM
Eerily quiet here, even the Russian spammers have disappeared. Is that it, Arbitao dead?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 21, 2018, 09:28:02 PM
Eerily quiet here, even the Russian spammers have disappeared. Is that it, Arbitao dead?

https://i.imgur.com/Jm9rLEo.png
"I wanna thank the crypto community for taking down Arbitao. But that's not why Brock and I are here to discuss. We're here to introduce you to TaiTaoCoin (TTC). What is TaiTaoCoin, you ask? We can't tell you yet. Not until we garner 25 billion dollars over the course of our one-year-long ICO. Think: EOS. Better yet, don't think that at all, for TaiTaoCoin will surpass that venture in every metrics.

TaiTaoCoin was conceived in my garage while changing the oil in my red Lamborghini, not the yellow or green one. I crawled out from underneath the Lambo and a book entitled The Tao of Pooh caught my eye. Of all the thousands of books I have in my garage, that one has made me more millions than all the others combined. An excellent book I suggest you read. Follow the referral link to Amazon in the description below or click the link to the left or the right or above or near my balls ... or Brock's  balls ... I promise you won't be disappointed.

Before I go any further, I want to ask you to please forgive my hair being messed up because earlier today I was driving a team of Belgium horses pulling a wagon full of posts for a fence I'm constructing on my ranch for the herd of golden alpacas I recently purchased. Think: emus. Better yet, don't think emus.

For those not versed, I'll have Brock explain what Tao is. In fact, I won't do that, for you astute viewers already figured it out by the way Brock's dressed today. Totally Tao!

On the sidelines here at some secret location, we have 3 other venerable dudes from the crypto space: Marshall Long, Craig Wright and Leroy Fodor. They will all offer their unique take on TaitaoCoin sans any input by us. Yes, they will be using their own words so please watch this video completely through so that you don't miss a beat.

Speaking of beating, how did you like them Golden State Warriors? I don't want to brag but I made millions from the casinos with my bets that they would take the series in only four games. Think: arbitrage betting. Better yet, ..."


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 25, 2018, 06:29:36 PM
Check Arbitao's Telegram channel. It's been active today.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 25, 2018, 07:58:39 PM
Check Arbitao's Telegram channel. It's been active today.

They link to this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYHplHx1MLU

Looks like we found the Carlos of Arbitao. Let's stick it up his ass for advancing an obvious scam. On second thought, let's first get approval from hilariousandco in making sure we're doing the right thing. Ref.: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4542394.0.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: mt55 on June 25, 2018, 08:00:04 PM
Let's assume for a second the system is as bullet-proof as you say. Profits are guaranteed! Why don't you pitch this to a multibillionaire and tell him that you developed a money printing machine which you would now want to sell to him.

Or max out your credit card and turn $100k into $20 million in two years. Then $20 million into $4 billion in two more years. About 7 years from now you would have all the money in the world.

Ok your point convinced me totally now. I am all in on this. I want all money in the world, thanks suchmoon! You are a noble guy!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: nazimuddin on June 26, 2018, 06:56:35 AM
Hello,
I'm  an expected Pre ICO investor for ATAO. I hava a plan to attained Pre ICO at a first glance (July 1)
I have some curiosity and I need so.e suggestion :
First, Honestly saying, to attained  pre ICO I already buy some ETH but unfortunately ETH market is dumping. What do you think on this bear market pre ICO target will reach? Investor who want to buy ATAO with their existing ETH/BTC may got fewer ATAO than their expectation! On this situation will you increase bonus amount?

Secondly, Why you have nagetive trust on bitcointalk platfrom? it may demotivate investor!
Although your accounts is a "Copper member new bie" but I trust the platfrom because of Arbitrage technology and for ATAO's well designd clear plan.
I know their may exist a lot of hater for ATAO, they may give nwgetive trust. Is nvestor can help on this situatin to gain trust? Let me know!

Thirdly, For deposit which curency will be better? I have ETH in stock. I notice ATAO platfrom currecy is BTC so If I want to invest more than I will buy ETH or BTC to deposit?
Thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: marlboroza on June 26, 2018, 09:33:00 AM
Hello,
I'm  an expected Pre ICO investor for ATAO. I hava a plan to attained Pre ICO at a first glance (July 1)
I have some curiosity and I need so.e suggestion :
First, Honestly saying, to attained  pre ICO I already buy some ETH but unfortunately ETH market is dumping. What do you think on this bear market pre ICO target will reach? Investor who want to buy ATAO with their existing ETH/BTC may got fewer ATAO than their expectation! On this situation will you increase bonus amount?

Secondly, Why you have nagetive trust on bitcointalk platfrom? it may demotivate investor!
Although your accounts is a "Copper member new bie" but I trust the platfrom because of Arbitrage technology and for ATAO's well designd clear plan.
I know their may exist a lot of hater for ATAO, they may give nwgetive trust. Is nvestor can help on this situatin to gain trust? Let me know!

Thirdly, For deposit which curency will be better? I have ETH in stock. I notice ATAO platfrom currecy is BTC so If I want to invest more than I will buy ETH or BTC to deposit?
Thank you.
Yeah, ignore scam accusation and this thread and go straight to reply button.

Arbitao is a fully-working product
Since an investor you must be aware that yes the calculator shows the approximate profits but you may not earn the mentioned profits because the market is volatile and margins are changing every minute.
Beauty of fully working AI arbitrage platform which aims to run on 100 exchanges.  ::)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 26, 2018, 03:08:00 PM
Hello,
I'm  an expected Pre ICO investor for ATAO. I hava a plan to attained Pre ICO at a first glance (July 1)
I have some curiosity and I need so.e suggestion :
First, Honestly saying, to attained  pre ICO I already buy some ETH but unfortunately ETH market is dumping. What do you think on this bear market pre ICO target will reach? Investor who want to buy ATAO with their existing ETH/BTC may got fewer ATAO than their expectation! On this situation will you increase bonus amount?

Secondly, Why you have nagetive trust on bitcointalk platfrom? it may demotivate investor!
Although your accounts is a "Copper member new bie" but I trust the platfrom because of Arbitrage technology and for ATAO's well designd clear plan.
I know their may exist a lot of hater for ATAO, they may give nwgetive trust. Is nvestor can help on this situatin to gain trust? Let me know!

Thirdly, For deposit which curency will be better? I have ETH in stock. I notice ATAO platfrom currecy is BTC so If I want to invest more than I will buy ETH or BTC to deposit?
Thank you.
Yeah, ignore scam accusation and this thread and go straight to reply SEND US ALL YOUR MONEY YOU FUCKIN RETARD button.

Arbitao is a fully-working product
Since an investor you must be aware that yes the calculator shows the approximate profits but you may not earn the mentioned profits because the market is volatile and margins are changing every minute.
Beauty of fully working AI arbitrage platform which aims to run on 100 exchanges.  ::)

FTFY


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 27, 2018, 03:28:09 PM
Scaffoldtoa just fired up their Telegram with the following ...


The ONLY problem is ...


Arbitao: Good morning, Investards. Take a look-see at a new article in a reputable crypto rag putting Arbitao in a positive light. See, we's legit. PS: Does anybody know if 24 hours haz past since our last announcement because Big Ben is broken and we don't know what time it is. One more thing, don't be fooled by what YouTubers participating in our campaign tell you.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: marlboroza on June 27, 2018, 09:53:56 PM
Scaffoldtoa just fired up their Telegram with the following ...
~
Ok, am I missing something here:

https://i.imgur.com/QdtJqGT.png

Where is arbitao https://icobench.com/ico/arbitao ?

Do you see it as I see it? That link redirects to icobench.com/icos.

Strange, I swear I've seen arbitao at icobench.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 27, 2018, 10:53:08 PM
Scaffoldtoa just fired up their Telegram with the following ...
~
Ok, am I missing something here:

https://i.imgur.com/QdtJqGT.png

Where is arbitao https://icobench.com/ico/arbitao ?

Do you see it as I see it? That link redirects to icobench.com/icos.

Strange, I swear I've seen arbitao at icobench.

No, you're not loosing your mind ...


Meanwhile, I'd say that the chicken-shit scammers are done with this forum ...

Quote
Name:   Arbitao
Posts:   68
Activity:   28
Merit:   0
Position:   Copper Member
Date Registered:   May 03, 2018, 05:52:41 AM
Last Active:   June 22, 2018, 03:52:09 AM

I suggest we list all those associated with Arbitao according to their website so that their names are also attached to the word scammers as they attempt to extract tens of millions of dollars from Investards in the crypto space.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Slow death on June 28, 2018, 08:47:09 AM
Scaffoldtoa just fired up their Telegram with the following ...
~
Ok, am I missing something here:

https://i.imgur.com/QdtJqGT.png

Where is arbitao https://icobench.com/ico/arbitao ?

Do you see it as I see it? That link redirects to icobench.com/icos.

Strange, I swear I've seen arbitao at icobench.

No, you're not loosing your mind ...


Meanwhile, I'd say that the chicken-shit scammers are done with this forum ...

Quote
Name:   Arbitao
Posts:   68
Activity:   28
Merit:   0
Position:   Copper Member
Date Registered:   May 03, 2018, 05:52:41 AM
Last Active:   June 22, 2018, 03:52:09 AM

I suggest we list all those associated with Arbitao according to their website so that their names are also attached to the word scammers as they attempt to extract tens of millions of dollars from Investards in the crypto space.

Do you have a bunker at home? because you'll need a bunker, these scammers are like flies behind shit... they will chase you in every corner of the planet




Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: fantomasik on June 28, 2018, 10:40:56 AM
I read that tokens not sold during the ICO will be destroyed. But I still have not found the information about their use. Can someone tell me how to use them? For what purposes can they be used?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: nazimuddin on June 28, 2018, 11:37:55 AM
I think ATAO token will be used for arbitraging trade! Profit from arbirtaging will be distributed among ATAO holder!
I read that tokens not sold during the ICO will be destroyed. But I still have not found the information about their use. Can someone tell me how to use them? For what purposes can they be used?



Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: advisor_moon on June 28, 2018, 11:48:26 AM
Hi, is there a bounty campaign for the project ?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: nazimuddin on June 28, 2018, 11:52:59 AM
Yes , Arbitao Bounty Programme has officially started! Contribute to the growing community and get rewarded with ATAO coins (distributed once per week). Here I find the rules for each bounty before participating: https://www.arbitao.com/bounty-program. https://twitter.com/arbitao/status/1010155366003499009

Hi, is there a bounty campaign for the project ?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 28, 2018, 04:10:47 PM
Hi, is there a bounty campaign for the project ?

Marketing expert seeking to make peanuts from participating in a bounty campaign of a 100% confirmed scam site. Totally fuckin amazing!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 28, 2018, 05:03:45 PM
ScammaTao just blasted another post on their Telegram ...


Here's the link they provided: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4hUcEFXFeg

Here's one of the vid's comments and the creator's reply ...


Translated:

Hello, we's Arbitao. We promise riches to all.

Hello Bitcointalk, we's 100% transparent as scaffolding and Leroy Fodor honest.

Sorry, our services aren't available in the US due to being illegal for yous to participate. NO EXCEPTIONS!!!

Community proves 100% that Arbitao is a scam.

Arbitao abandons BitcoinTalk.

Arbital blasts on their Telegram, linking to a vid depicting a positive review.

A person from the US comments that they love to invest and seeks how.

The YouTube creator instructs the Investard to contact him privately.

Scam buster Bruno watches his dick get hard while penning this post.

I give. What the fuck is this? -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4hUcEFXFeg&feature=youtu.be&t=804

https://icobench.com/ico/xriba


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on June 30, 2018, 10:47:39 PM
https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=@arbitao


Nothing says Trust Arbitao better than ...

https://i.imgur.com/5DxPC25.jpg
"Karel, I can't help but think somethin's missin' in the photo that this photo shoot image is gonna be layered upon, so I added a second Central Tower to compensate. Don't ask why I've taken the time to do such when you and I both know that we're catering to Investards and NOT the brainiacs over on BitcoinTalk."


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on July 01, 2018, 09:02:52 PM
https://blog.arbitao.com/start-of-pre-ico-postponed-to-july-22nd-2018/

Quote
“Currently many investors are afraid of the crypto winter and minds may not be open for new and outstanding projects on the market. We expect the situation to get much better in the next few weeks. By postponing the pre-ICO rounds, we expect to reach many more people through our growing community, and everyone will have the chance to participate early and earn a great bonus.”

Translated: The BitcoinTalk Sleuth Bastards (BSB) busted our balls, leaving us no choice but to reevaluate our scam under the guise of "Crypto Winter" made us do it in spite of with our bespoke arbitrage model, Investards can profit spring, summer, fall and even winter. Given that Big Ben is under repair, please inform us when it's July 22, each and every year. And, yes, Arbitao did pay to have the scaffolding temporarily removed surrounding Bit Ben, then re-erected, thus you conspiracytards can go fuck yourselves.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: tmfp on July 01, 2018, 09:14:08 PM
Quote from: Big Ben and Jerry
We expect the situation to get much better in the next few weeks.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5e/61/b3/5e61b3bdc1407cd92bfe32f596dd1d9b.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on July 01, 2018, 09:38:29 PM
Quote from: Big Ben and Jerry
We expect the situation to get much better in the next few weeks.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5e/61/b3/5e61b3bdc1407cd92bfe32f596dd1d9b.jpg



Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on July 18, 2018, 06:46:55 PM
They may have abandoned BCT, but Team Arbitaoadingdongs are still advancing their scam ...

https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=@arbitao


I stand correct. They haven't abandoned BCT. They simply resorted to chicken scratching ...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4672962.0.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on July 21, 2018, 03:54:43 PM
This shit doesn't look good! ...


How the fuck did Arbitao obtain over 2K subscribers - up from ~100-200 a few days ago - in spite of our best efforts on this board in exposing their scammy asses?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on July 22, 2018, 08:06:28 PM
http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/mf_image_16x9/public/mailhed.jpg?itok=h_kb-LBW&resize=1100x619
"Are you saying that Arbitao sent you the same email announcing their
special offer to special Investards?"

Quote
Less than 24 hours left until the decentralising arbitrage scene is changed forever!   
Arbitao Pre-sale starts tomorrow on July 22nd at 1am GMT.   
As you know our ATAO Coins quantity is limited on every stage:   
Stage 1 has 10 000 000 ATAO Coins for the very limited period of July 22nd - 23rd.   
You should register and stay logged in before 1 AM on July 22nd GMT, so that you can be among the first to secure your ATAO with a bonus of 40%!   
Check out details in your dashboard.   
Also, we are offering a special bounty for Facebook users: Like our FB page and share a post to get rewarded with 75 ATAO!   
Follow the steps in this form to participate: https://goo.gl/forms/vE8PFwsM4Z04jv6B3   
Greetings and welcome on Arbitao board,   
John Kinsey, CEO at Arbitao   
Follow Arbitao


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on July 27, 2018, 04:28:10 PM
Hello, ARBITAO team!

 Your rating was updated https://icoholder.com/en/arbitao-22411 🔥 . Congratulations!

Seriously?


Congratulations on advancing a rogue entity in the process of scamming millions from the crypto community.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on July 27, 2018, 11:02:40 PM
Via email, that and their Telegram channel are now their communication channels of choice, leaving this forum because tough questions were asked ...


Investards, best hurry so that you'll be able to purchase bonus coins not worth a fuck once the smoke clears, then come cryin' back here for help from the very those warning your asses to not not invest in this obvious scam.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Hueristic on August 18, 2018, 05:49:31 PM
They have removed Bitcointalk link from their webpage.

Hiding from questions is a sure sign of a scammer.

I will remove red trust if they satisfactorily address the issues in this thread and PM me of such.

I would recommend thumbs down their youtube video if you have a account there..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYHplHx1MLU


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: vuglusk on August 18, 2018, 06:01:41 PM
The design is so mature and beautiful that it's hard not to be surprised by the creator's talent.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Hueristic on August 18, 2018, 06:08:47 PM
Hello, ARBITAO team!

 Your rating was updated https://icoholder.com/en/arbitao-22411 🔥 . Congratulations!

Hey guess what you promote scams have some red trust.



Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on August 18, 2018, 08:03:34 PM
The design is so mature and beautiful that it's hard not to be surprised by the creator's talent.

You forgot to mention that their logo is so recognizable in every corner of the globe.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 04, 2018, 03:31:02 PM
Bump to express that this turned out to be a scam. You've been warned, Investardz.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: xi_vii on October 05, 2018, 08:25:58 AM
Arbitao (ATAO) is already rated by Cryptolaboratory. All facts are here (https://ico-analytics.global/content/arbitao-atao). Don't miss it!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Hueristic on October 05, 2018, 05:59:06 PM
Arbitao (ATAO) is already rated by Cryptolaboratory. All facts are here (https://ico-analytics.global/content/arbitao-atao). Don't miss it!


Checked your post history, have some red.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on October 05, 2018, 09:48:42 PM
Arbitao (ATAO) is already rated by Cryptolaboratory. All facts are here (https://ico-analytics.global/content/arbitao-atao). Don't miss it!


Checked your post history, have some red.

You're a dog!  ;) ;) ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: pavan@hosur on October 24, 2018, 01:06:58 PM
Bump to express that this turned out to be a scam. You've been warned, Investardz.
wait… what? am I missing something? is this a joke? the project seems pretty damn legit on the surface? can you fill me in?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on November 02, 2018, 03:37:33 PM
Bump to express that this turned out to be a scam. You've been warned, Investardz.
wait… what? am I missing something? is this a joke? the project seems pretty damn legit on the surface? can you fill me in?

Wait... what? is that the fuckin best you can do in creating content so to appease your signature campaign commitment?

i is bout to pen a new thread in scam section depicting that https://genipaper.com is a fuckin scam. but please ignore it if you feel in your heart that on the surface it, too, looks el legito ...


Just as there's no scaffolding around Big Ben when the founding members had their pic taken, there's no scaffolding around any of the buildings depicted above since obviously they're currently under construction. Ergo, a fuckin scam. Seriously, I have better proof than that but, again, feel free to ignore it if on the surface the project looks el legito.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading
Post by: YuTü.Co.in on December 02, 2018, 08:08:34 PM
https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=@arbitao


Nothing says Trust Arbitao better than ...

https://i.imgur.com/5DxPC25.jpg
"Karel, I can't help but think somethin's missin' in the photo that this photo shoot image is gonna be layered upon, so I added a second Central Tower to compensate. Don't ask why I've taken the time to do such when you and I both know that we're catering to Investards and NOT the brainiacs over on BitcoinTalk."

Bumped so to continually expose these pieces of shit.