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Title: merit and banned
Post by: tuanphuong666 on June 11, 2018, 02:58:49 PM
I would like to mention two issues in here:
- The first; banned problem :I want to say should add the warning to the first offender + the reason for warning the wrong account that caused. Many uninfected users are offended in the forum and they are unreasonably banned. So there is an email about rules sent to new members.
- The Second, merit: Many members do not understand how to achieving merits. It is important to establish a merit scoring system because it is quite complex and difficult to understand at the moment.
I hope the forum administrators supporting and consider my behalf.the newbie and many other members sent to the board!thank you


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: xIIImaL on June 11, 2018, 03:19:44 PM
I would like to mention two issues in here:
- The first; banned problem :I want to say should add the warning to the first offender + the reason for warning the wrong account that caused. Many uninfected users are offended in the forum and they are unreasonably banned. So there is an email about rules sent to new members.
- The Second, merit: Many members do not understand how to achieving merits. It is important to establish a merit scoring system because it is quite complex and difficult to understand at the moment.
I hope the forum administrators supporting and consider my behalf.the newbie and many other members sent to the board!thank you

If you check the pinned messages on the every board you will directly understand the proper rules you need to follow in this forum. With that itself enough being without any banned issue or something mate. 
If you want to learn how the merits has been used and operated means check the thread of Theymos in this section you could understand it better.
As newbie no one can understand all the rules in this forum but spam and scam is not to done any places you should follow it.


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: bitmover on June 11, 2018, 03:33:40 PM
- The Second, merit: Many members do not understand how to achieving merits. It is important to establish a merit scoring system because it is quite complex and difficult to understand at the moment.
I hope the forum administrators supporting and consider my behalf.the newbie and many other members sent to the board!thank you

how do you have more than 400 posts and do you still say many users do not understand merits?

We have more than 30 new  topics daily crying about merits in the meta session (including this new one you just made).

Every topic has at least one good answer explaining it, like the one above my comment.


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: Retty on June 11, 2018, 03:42:12 PM
I would like to mention two issues in here:
- The first; banned problem :I want to say should add the warning to the first offender + the reason for warning the wrong account that caused. Many uninfected users are offended in the forum and they are unreasonably banned. So there is an email about rules sent to new members.
- The Second, merit: Many members do not understand how to achieving merits. It is important to establish a merit scoring system because it is quite complex and difficult to understand at the moment.
I hope the forum administrators supporting and consider my behalf.the newbie and many other members sent to the board!thank you

Tuanphuong666, there are clear and thorough guidelines regarding merit, and how to achieve it. It is by posting consistent, above average content and overall contributing and helping (where you can) the overall quality of the forum. I'm assuming English isn't your primary language, so I am sure you'd be forgiven for spelling mistakes/punctuation etc, but why not make a few decent posts and show willing? I'm sure the rewards will soon follow.

This isn't rocket science, its just helping and posting where you can and when you can. I don't think posts like this will do you any favours at all if i'm honest.


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: tuanphuong666 on June 11, 2018, 03:42:18 PM
I think we should sent a warn before banned member of range


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on June 11, 2018, 03:51:17 PM
Many uninfected users
What are those members not infected with?  Common sense?  What people should do is read the rules of bitcointalk before ever making a post.  That way no warning would be necessary, and I don't support giving warnings out anyway.  Most bans lately have been for plagiarizing content, and anyone should know that's not the right thing to do--not on bitcointalk, not on any forum, not in college, not anywhere.

Many members do not understand how to achieving merits.
That's because idiots are too lazy to read anything, because they're too busy making posts for shitty bounties.  That's one of the reasons why they get banned first and learn the rules second, and it's why they're ignorant about the merit system--and why merits are so important to them in the first place. 

Having a warning system would only add work for the mods, and it's not necessary.  Why should mods do more work when noobs can't even be bothered to read the rules and all of the threads about the merit system?


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: Flying Hellfish on June 11, 2018, 03:51:49 PM
I think we should sent a warn before banned member of range

I think it would be safe to say that the rules are the warning...

The part where it says "don't do X or you will be Y'd" is literally warning you to not do something or else there may be consequences :D


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: krishnaverma on June 11, 2018, 05:11:23 PM

- The Second, merit: Many members do not understand how to achieving merits. It is important to establish a merit scoring system because it is quite complex and difficult to understand at the moment.

If you cannot understand the merit system even in months after it was introduced , you do not deserve any merits at all.


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: hilariousetc on June 11, 2018, 06:22:27 PM
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- The Second, merit: Many members do not understand how to achieving merits. It is important to establish a merit scoring system because it is quite complex and difficult to understand at the moment.
I hope the forum administrators supporting and consider my behalf.the newbie and many other members sent to the board!thank you

There's a FAQ for this which should answer all the questions someone has about merit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0

I think we should sent a warn before banned member of range

Most members do get a warning with a seven day ban for a first offence (ie ref or sig spam), but it's only in severe cases of rule breakings like copy and pasting and sending phishing links etc that users are permanently banned. I agree that all users should be made aware of the rules upon sign up, but it's also a user's responsibility to make sure they read and understand them in the first place.


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: shilpyh on June 14, 2018, 12:14:32 PM
The Second, merit: Many members do not understand how to achieving merits. It is important to establish a merit scoring system because it is quite complex and difficult to understand at the moment.
If we are lazy than nothing to say. There are several posts regarding merit system. There is no way to achieve merit hence to help people by creating post or replying on their post. And also a good post or reply never mean that you must get merit. We can get merit only if our post/reply is helpful as well as someone gift wants to gift merit who has smerit (sendable merit).


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: friends1980 on June 14, 2018, 04:01:36 PM
Just another guy polluting this forum with a spam post which he will never look back to.

Interestingly, the first thread he opened, 2 days after signing up to this forum, was this one, in the "Politics and Society" forum:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3154050

Topic: "robert lewandowski is my idol"

Read 5 times. No reply.

Poor tuanphuong666.


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: Jet Cash on June 14, 2018, 04:35:18 PM
The merit system is pretty simple
You make good posts, you get merit
You make bad posts, you don't get merit


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: LoyceMobile on June 14, 2018, 04:43:53 PM
I think we should sent a warn before banned member of range
Which of your alts got banned?


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: suchmoon on June 14, 2018, 05:43:11 PM
banned problem :I want to say should add the warning to the first offender

... which the offender will ignore and will create a whiny thread asking for a second warning etc.

How about we ban the bounties and the signatures and end the make-money-by-shitposting-on-teh-intertubes nonsense. Yeah, that sounds fair I think.

Or you could read and heed the rules.


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: TMAN on June 14, 2018, 06:30:20 PM
I would like to mention two issues in here:

firstly : read the fucking rules
secondly : shitposters like you just hurt my eyes


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: travieso on June 15, 2018, 12:14:53 AM
I think I need a merit to go up the rankings and how to give a good answer clear and useful I must be careful to avoid the account is prohibited not to answer at will outside the topic and careless


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: Silent26 on June 15, 2018, 01:01:18 AM
- The first; banned problem :I want to say should add the warning to the first offender + the reason for warning the wrong account that caused.
This warning your talking about, it's not really too necessary. If you can just read all the rules and follow them, you will have no trouble here in the forum. Actually all rules are not that too hard to follow, some members are just getting banned because they are not reading (maybe they read, but they didn't understand, ) the rules or some members already knew how the rules works but still, doesn't follow it. Those members are usually those members who are just worried about getting money every day.

Well, It depends on how you use your account if your were really expecting for your account to get banned then violate a rule and never come back, that's simple.

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- The Second, merit: Many members do not understand how to achieving merits. It is important to establish a merit scoring system because it is quite complex and difficult to understand at the moment.
What's this "difficult to understand" thing about Merits?

If you'd just try understand, this is how it works basically.
The merit system is pretty simple
You make good posts, you get merit
You make bad posts, you don't get merit
Don't miss to read it, this is your good opportunity.


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: tranthidung on June 15, 2018, 05:04:21 AM
I think we should sent a warn before banned member of range
Yeap, banners should spend their time to read basic, important rules of BTT forum before complaining about their bans' reasons.
Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)
Shitposters have definitely gotten PMs for their deleted threads.

For users who abused the forum, merit system, plagiarism, etc., I don't see need to send them warning messages, honestly.
Abusers should be banned immediately after get found with as strict punishments as possible.


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: criz2fer on June 16, 2018, 08:20:08 AM
I would like to mention two issues in here:
- The first; banned problem :I want to say should add the warning to the first offender + the reason for warning the wrong account that caused. Many uninfected users are offended in the forum and they are unreasonably banned. So there is an email about rules sent to new members.
- The Second, merit: Many members do not understand how to achieving merits. It is important to establish a merit scoring system because it is quite complex and difficult to understand at the moment.
I hope the forum administrators supporting and consider my behalf.the newbie and many other members sent to the board!thank you
Warnings are irrelevant. If you really want to learn read more of the rules. If you can read the rules, you can also search the use of merit.

By the way, this link could help if a newbie could read your post.  Vital Facts and Figures about Merit Point System.(Answers to your Queries) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2820030.0)


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: sncc on June 16, 2018, 08:58:20 AM
I don't see there are problems.  New comers should read the rule first, including instruction for ban and merit, which is very generic and applies to any forum.  Now there are many topics explaining merit system and it is not hard to understand it.


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: talaveraa on June 16, 2018, 09:27:31 AM
- The Second, merit: Many members do not understand how to achieving merits. It is important to establish a merit scoring system because it is quite complex and difficult to understand at the moment.

If a member do not understand how to achieve merits then he doesn't deserve to have one. The current merit system for me is now the most effective, and i think there's nothing wrong with it. Its not that complex and difficult as you say, but it is totally simple and easy.

helpful/quality post = merit or no merit
low quality/pointless post = no merit at all

it's just that simple and basic.



Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: Taki on June 16, 2018, 09:54:33 AM
The forum is not a children garden and those people who come here are not little babies to explain them everything. There is all necessary information as about banning as about merit system, the new user just should to use his basic skills for search and in an hour, believe me, it is possible to find out everything you are interesting about.
Nobody here will try to prevent someone's ban, so surfing the forum, taking a look on all possible boards will stay the new user informed and warned.


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: krishnaverma on June 16, 2018, 11:18:26 AM
- The first; banned problem :I want to say should add the warning to the first offender + the reason for warning the wrong account that caused. Many uninfected users are offended in the forum and they are unreasonably banned. So there is an email about rules sent to new members.

I agree to this. For cases like posting a copied reply without giving reference to original case, the member should be sent a warning. If he repeats the mistake , he should be abnned. But for major abuse like sending all 50 smerits to an alt, one cannot give excuse that I did this once.



- The Second, merit: Many members do not understand how to achieving merits. It is important to establish a merit scoring system because it is quite complex and difficult to understand at the moment.

Can you be more clear on what aspects you are not able to understand ?


Title: Re: merit and banned
Post by: Randolf007 on June 16, 2018, 12:48:59 PM
I would like to mention two issues in here:
- The first; banned problem :I want to say should add the warning to the first offender + the reason for warning the wrong account that caused. Many uninfected users are offended in the forum and they are unreasonably banned. So there is an email about rules sent to new members.
- The Second, merit: Many members do not understand how to achieving merits. It is important to establish a merit scoring system because it is quite complex and difficult to understand at the moment.
I hope the forum administrators supporting and consider my behalf.the newbie and many other members sent to the board!thank you

rules are created to be implemented with the aim of creating a forum of non-infringement, which will make the forum well organized.
if the rules are damaged then there will automatically be consequences received by the offender.
so think before you act, learn before you start. You will get what you want. ;)