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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: The Cryptovator on June 13, 2018, 08:12:42 PM



Title: Big scam Xcov.com ICO. Use fake team members.
Post by: The Cryptovator on June 13, 2018, 08:12:42 PM
Xcov ICO ANN Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3487673.0
Archive: http://archive.is/KGHlg
Bounty thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4289380.msg38578370#msg38578370

https://xcov.com ICO use fake team members. They use multiple fake team members.
Website archive: http://archive.is/S1ZqO

Team member Petra Horníková (https://xcov.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/0.jpg)

https://i.imgur.com/VOZnaTw.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/23kaqhh.png

Linkedin profile : https://www.linkedin.com/in/petra-horníková-947954162 (https://www.linkedin.com/in/petra-horníková-947954162)/

On their website use name Petra Horníková. Look like his profile new with 272 connection. Country used  Israel

But actual name of this person : Lúcia Silva
http://i66.tinypic.com/2re19is.png

Linkedin profile : www.linkedin.com/in/luciaafonsosilva

Look like this is old account with 500 connection from Portugal

2) Pomeroy Vertefeuuill

https://i.imgur.com/1dinR8W.jpg

LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pomeroy-vertefeuille-36324b162/
From Estonia

Original person name: Bruno Berlafa
Linkedin profile : https://www.linkedin.com/in/brunoberlafa/
From Spain.

3) Amabella Melanson - Netherlands

https://archive.is/S1ZqO/89169f91c711e5abd221ac2b7c9abd357d8273e5.jpg

Linkedin profile : https://www.linkedin.com/in/amabella-melanson-115a63162/

Original person name: Kinda Samara from Australia

ReferenceLink : https://aawsat.com/home/writer/Kinda%20Samara

4)  Grada Tinnemans

https://archive.is/S1ZqO/e77fa3874dab1c46c090e7cacf9518cd8874c2ef.jpg

Original name : Dalia Al-Baz - Vice president of national bank Egypt

Reference link : http://www.albawabhnews.com/2771398

For other pictures simply use Google search you will find their alt name and details.

I think it's enough proof to say scam. I am not much experienced about Linkedin. My question why there is two account with same photo?  Name and country is different. Lúcia Silva look like original owner of this photo. Both profile background is same. I will investigate more, if I found I will update my post.  




Title: Re: Big scam Xcov.com ICO. Use fake team members.
Post by: Lutpin on June 14, 2018, 08:05:40 PM
Watching for the response of Arshe26 who manages a bounty campaign on behalf of XCOV.


Title: Re: Big scam Xcov.com ICO. Use fake team members.
Post by: Arshe26 on June 14, 2018, 08:32:08 PM
Watching for the response of Arshe26 who manages a bounty campaign on behalf of XCOV.


Hi. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
I am already reaching  XCOV team about this matter.
Their Project Manager will talk to me tomorrow.
If they fail to give a proof that they are not scam,Then i must stop the bounty for my bounty participants sake .
I will update this thread as soon as i get a result.


Title: Re: Big scam Xcov.com ICO. Use fake team members.
Post by: Arshe26 on June 17, 2018, 02:47:32 AM
Watching for the response of Arshe26 who manages a bounty campaign on behalf of XCOV.



Updating this Thread about XCOV CASE, I have tried many times to talk with the team but they are avoiding me. All admins has blocked me and banned me on their telegram. So today i am declaring this project as scam ico and will update also in my bounty thread. Good day!


Title: Re: Big scam Xcov.com ICO. Use fake team members.
Post by: Lutpin on June 17, 2018, 03:01:46 AM
Updating this Thread about XCOV CASE, I have tried many times to talk with the team but they are avoiding me. All admins has blocked me and banned me on their telegram. So today i am declaring this project as scam ico and will update also in my bounty thread.
You had no funds escrowed on behalf of participants, thus are not able to offer them any protection, correct?
Meaning everyone who was part of the bounty campaign will go unpaid for whatever tasks they have done, right?


Title: Re: Big scam Xcov.com ICO. Use fake team members.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on June 17, 2018, 03:29:33 AM
Updating this Thread about XCOV CASE, I have tried many times to talk with the team but they are avoiding me. All admins has blocked me and banned me on their telegram. So today i am declaring this project as scam ico and will update also in my bounty thread.
You had no funds escrowed on behalf of participants, thus are not able to offer them any protection, correct?
Meaning everyone who was part of the bounty campaign will go unpaid for whatever tasks they have done, right?
What a mess.  This is one of the reasons why when these projects have a manager running a bounty, they need to escrow the funds first thing.  I've seen a number of oddball bitcoin-paying signature campaigns recently where there's a manager I've never heard of and there's no escrowed funds for the campaign.  In cases like this where bounty  participants have done work but the project turned out to be a scam (which it looks like here), at least they can get paid. 

Now, unless there's a damn good reason why those photos are linked to different people, there's no incentive for the project to pay its bounty people.  Not that I have a whole lot of sympathy for shitposting bounty hunters, but they don't deserve to get scammed.

I don't know much about Linkedin, either.  Maybe there'll be a good explanation for all of this.


Title: Re: Big scam Xcov.com ICO. Use fake team members.
Post by: magneto on June 17, 2018, 09:51:38 PM
As The Pharmacist said, there is simply no good reason that I can see for anyone to be using fake team members. A legitimate ICO or any other investment would simply not do that, because they would be comfortable with providing their real linkedin profile or whatnot.

Xcov impersonating other people without their consent is criminal at worst, and shady at best.

I'd say that this is a confirmed scam. The names don't even match up so it's very unlikely any of these 'team members' even have any knowledge of this ICO.

And to echo The Pharmacist, this is why escrow needs to be used when funds are involved. Otherwise, if a campaign for a site is shut down due to the fact that the site is suspected to be scam, nobody gets paid.


Title: Re: Big scam Xcov.com ICO. Use fake team members.
Post by: khufuking on June 17, 2018, 09:58:42 PM
@OP nice catch , them paying for bounties or not will not make any difference because if they used fake profiles then there is no way they have good intentions . I hope they did not raise much money threw their ICO .


Title: Re: Big scam Xcov.com ICO. Use fake team members.
Post by: Arshe26 on June 18, 2018, 09:03:38 PM
Updating this Thread about XCOV CASE, I have tried many times to talk with the team but they are avoiding me. All admins has blocked me and banned me on their telegram. So today i am declaring this project as scam ico and will update also in my bounty thread.
You had no funds escrowed on behalf of participants, thus are not able to offer them any protection, correct?
Meaning everyone who was part of the bounty campaign will go unpaid for whatever tasks they have done, right?



Yes. Actually also the bounty team didnt get paid.


Title: Re: Big scam Xcov.com ICO. Use fake team members.
Post by: Lutpin on June 18, 2018, 09:08:33 PM
Yes. Actually also the bounty team didnt get paid.
Frankly, I do not care if you did get paid.
As a manager, your first priority should always be to get things right for your participants.
If you manage to secure a payment for them (eg via escrowed funds before starting the bounty campaign), but do not get paid yourself, at least you did your job as a manager.
You delivered what you promised people, getting paid amout X for the tasks you have given them.



Title: Re: Big scam Xcov.com ICO. Use fake team members.
Post by: Arshe26 on June 18, 2018, 11:25:51 PM
Yes. Actually also the bounty team didnt get paid.
Frankly, I do not care if you did get paid.
As a manager, your first priority should always be to get things right for your participants.
If you manage to secure a payment for them (eg via escrowed funds before starting the bounty campaign), but do not get paid yourself, at least you did your job as a manager.
You delivered what you promised people, getting paid amout X for the tasks you have given them.




I did apologize to all participants Sir. And I am sorry too that this happened. We will do our best to be more cautious for our next bounties.