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Bruno is a good person and I hope we can put this problem behind us.

Could you report the PM to moderators admin and also provide a link to this thread so they could confirm the authenticity of this PM?

^^

Or perhaps let someone (non-staff) who is trustworthy temporarily access your account to verify the PM.

I would agree to follow Darkstar advice here because the account you claim to have been sold is not only Legendary by title in the forum but also Legendary for real to this forum.

You need to provide proof that the PM is real and the only way to find out this is to hand out your account temporarily to a very trusted member of the forum.

I would do that but I wouldn't want someone to delete the pm.  I'll wait for staff member to check in so they can verify this pm is 100 percent real.  

Or he could save us all the trouble and report the PM to theymos and then ask him to confirm it by posting here. Gleb is a DT member therefore "trusted member" here means jack so far.

@Bigmelons25, report the PM to admin only.

EDIT: it appears that our global mod is not a crook after all. ;)

He is, but it doesn't make sense as he has no Sent feedback at all.

Is he? Under who?

Looking at the GG Trust summary (for the first time) I notice he/the account is showing it has left no feedback....

Quoting from seclog:

May 24, 2018, 08:19:02 PM - Gleb Gamow - password changed
May 24, 2018, 08:46:24 PM - Gleb Gamow - password changed
May 24, 2018, 10:40:27 PM - Gleb Gamow - password reset via email
May 26, 2018, 06:42:21 AM - Gleb Gamow - password reset via email
June 04, 2018, 01:44:22 AM - Gleb Gamow - password changed

And according to their trust page:

"This user's email address was changed recently."

Timestamp of the PM screenshot is right after the first password reset.

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Tomatocage

Ah, that explains it, thanks, I have that TC account on ~

Cross posting from the thread back then (not sure why we're in a new one if there already is a thread about it).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4417785.msg39376918#msg39376918

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Gleb verified himself after the PM in OP. Thus I'd say it's reasonable to assume they are still in control of their account.

This number seems real

OLDER REFERENCE + ARCHIVE
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110916.msg26001445#msg26001445
http://archive.is/ChulR#selection-5987.0-5987.50

Op sent me the PM so I can confirm that's real at least.



I don't think he is. Whoever bought the account probably just asked him to send some proof to get out of the mess. Either way I don't really trust Gleb.

Maybe.
Any ideas about how this fits in then?

https://i.imgur.com/J4FUHWc.png

If the PM is legit, not only he should be booted off the DT but also should get tagged left and right to set an example for other DT members.
Let us all tag this sinner. thank you for confirmation don hilary.

EDIT: the next person who is going to tag him, remember to include AGLD as his alt account as well. now we only need to buyer to come clean and tell us how much they paid for the account.

Can you not just STFU for five minutes?
Tia.

My initial assumption was that they lost access to the account between the password reset and the password change (May 26th and June 4th),

May 26, 2018, 06:42:21 AM - Gleb Gamow - password reset via email
June 04, 2018, 01:44:22 AM - Gleb Gamow - password changed

As right after the reset a new address is staked and immediately after the change, Bruno makes a post about YuTü.Co.in
However, since they use the newly staked address in all applications for signature campaigns afterwards, there might be more to this.

Anyway, I'd like to see the PM in OP being verified as authentic by moderation/administration.
@hilarious, can you check this for us? I'd tend to side with you if the PM proofs to be legit.

Nevermind, confirmed already.

Seems Hilariousandco has reviewed the message, and came to the conclusion that it has been sold. Man, I'm not going to lie this actually hurts to be seeing this.

Especially, considering he was willing to verify the account still belonged to him when it looks like it might not. It makes me think why he would go to that length to protect the buyer though. 

Money, probably.

lol its not solid proof . i also can make the same thing like that
https://imgur.com/PSph3V6

you need more proof . i dont have problem with them but all proof you explain here its not worth .
and he also trying to Valid himself . but yeah . RIP account just because change data LOL . people in here not want old user comeback .

Start from newbie again Glem Gamow its oke . lol xD

But unlike you and me, hilariousandco is a golbal mod and you can report PMs to them,
so they have access to the actual PM (not just the screenshot), even between accounts they do not control.

You can fake the screenshot, you cannot fake the testimony by hilarious.

AAH i see. It looks like I missed that part. If really he saw Actual PM. RIP buyer. good luck for your wealth.

Now the question here is: what should we do with the OP for coming forward with this case? is a simple thank you enough? because doing what he did is the right thing to do and people should do this without wanting anything in return other than a thank you.

However, I still have my doubts, do you think OP was the first buyer who got screwed over by the seller and he posted this proof to get back at the seller?
I'd let DT members to decide that and if they think OP is the real man/woman here then maybe DT members could show some gratitude by the means of a green trust?

Umm, shouldn't the OP be red-tagged as an (potential) account buyer himself?

And another theory; could it be that someone hacked Gleb's account, and then Gleb regained control of the account again, given all the activity on May 24? Or is that just a wild theory?

He could have been an account buyer, or he could have used it to bait the account name (I doubt an experienced account seller would have fallen for that).
I think being a whistleblower on this is more important than him (alledgedly) wanting to buy an account, so he shouldn't end up with red trust. Then again, I never leave red trust for account trading by myself.

If that would be the case, I would have expected Gleb to mention it.

I want to know something here: is it true that Quickseller controls the Tomatocage account? because of this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4417785.msg40204980#msg40204980) now I have my doubts about Tomatocage and him being on DT1, because Quickseller tried to exonerate Gleb multiple times and even asked for the topic to be closed.

Could we say that doing this kind of shady garbage is a common practice among DT members? I would like to request for immediate exclusion of Tomatocage from DT1 unless he excludes Gleb as soon as possible. note again that Tomatocage has an alt account on DT2.

Gleb lied multiple times and he is still protecting the first buyer, not to mention that suchmoon who has a habit of obstructing justice for years now has the control of Gleb's account, as a result I'd like our DT2 members to also tag suchmoon because she bought an account while the case was and is still open.

Yes, dear DT2 members tag me for helping out a forum old-timer in need ::). What is that going to accomplish, other than your obvious hardon for this "case"?

Your idiocy knows no bounds.

Gleb hasn't been proven to be lying, and hasn't proven to be protecting the buyer. It's all assumptions that are based off the evidence that we have. Plus, the only evidence we have it the personal message, and the password changes. There's also some 'evidence' that his posting habits changed, however that's purely subjective.

Depth 2 members or anyone for that matter isn't going to send a negative over to suchmoon just because he now has control of the account. He doesn't really even own it as they have said Gleb can have it back any time he wants. They are holding it so that the account isn't transferred to someone who would abuse the account.

Looks to me that suchmoon helped Bruno out. He's likely going through some hard times which resulted in this whole thing, and suchmoon showed empathy towards this, and wanted to make sure that the account didn't go into to someone else hands that would abuse it. He's also stated that he's not going to be using the account publicly so if it ever does make a post again then we can start having a discussion on why that's happened.

This is basically how I view this whole situation, which is why I haven't tagged anyone.  I'm not an old-timer on bitcointalk but I've been around long enough to have seen the good Gleb does for the forum.  He helped dox Master-P, if I recall correctly.  In this case all the good he's done greatly outweighs an attempted account sale--it would bother me tremendously if the GG account got into a scammer's hands, but that didn't happen.

People like digaran can say it isn't fair that (some) DT members are not tagging GG, but that doesn't bother me.  It would be even more unfair to give GG a neg for account sales and have that one act negate everything good he's done.

Edit:  On the other hand, if new info comes to light (and it seems to be happening) I would definitely change my stance on this.  What a mess.

Current owner of Gleb account has nothing to do with what earlier owner of Gleb account did. It should have no (positive) trust ratings and in any case not belong to DT.

Trust ratings are based on the account, not the person controlling it....  :/

You can also adjust trust via the Trust settings (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust) - IIRC a person (can't recall their name just now ;) ) was trying to cook the books by getting people to add a tilda eg for example:


Give it a try and see for yourself.

I should point out that I've thrice archived this thread

• Here http://archive.is/CerED
• Here http://archive.is/QBY44
• Here http://archive.is/i6sWn

because people keep *cough* tweeking *cough* what they have written.  ::)

Perhaps now would be a good time to lock this thread?