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Title: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: E-Verify on June 17, 2018, 07:50:14 PM
How do one know if the members of a project's telegram group are real people and not Bots. Also are there telegram audit services that can tell how many fake members are in a group.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: Avalonist on June 17, 2018, 08:23:22 PM
THere are no audit services for Telegram. But still youll need to have a sim-card for every bot, which isnt that simple


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: E-Verify on June 17, 2018, 08:26:32 PM
THere are no audit services for Telegram. But still youll need to have a sim-card for every bot, which isnt that simple
Okay, but there are lots of textme apps that one can easily get a line from.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: szlfsz on June 17, 2018, 08:43:22 PM
THere are no audit services for Telegram. But still youll need to have a sim-card for every bot, which isnt that simple
Okay, but there are lots of textme apps that one can easily get a line from.

fun fact: those text and SMS services.. most likely all their phone numbers will already have a telegram account associated... XD


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: szlfsz on June 17, 2018, 08:51:35 PM
anyways.. I would assume that 50% is bots and trolls, in any case :D


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: godfredmanu on June 17, 2018, 09:48:55 PM
Majority of telegrams members are real born out of desire of investors interested in the project. However, there are ICOs telegram group services that sell  fake members to join just to make the project seem legitimate.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: E-Verify on June 17, 2018, 09:53:17 PM
Majority of telegrams members are real born out of desire of investors interested in the project. However, there are ICOs telegram group services that sell  fake members to join just to make the project seem legitimate.
Makes sense, Thanks


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: Potato Chips on June 17, 2018, 11:09:37 PM
The problem is not just about bots but also dummy accounts who either joins in the conversation or stay inactive (basically just to add in the total number of members). There are also those real people who are added without them knowing. Surely, every telegram group has a mixture of them.

In any case since there's no such service (from my knowing), you just gotta observe and identify the red flags.

Real people who are truly interested discusses substantial things about the project whereas fakes are not so pay attention in the flow of conversations.
10000++ members but you are always seeing the same people? now that's suspicious isn't it?
Ask them how long has the telegram group been in existence and think if the total number of members is really possible to attain in that period of time.

It might not hint that there's a huge or majority of them are fakes as it could just be a case of uninterested members but nevertheless both of them aren't a good thing so so


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: XinXan on June 17, 2018, 11:11:38 PM
Fairly easy to tell if you spend some time in there. If you see telegram channels with 10k+ members, that's already huge. Usually real and active telegram channels have between 100 and 1000 active users. Most of those users that aren't active join because it's part of the bounty or requirements for the airdrop. That doesn't mean they aren't real, they just wont really say anything or pay much attention to the channel.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: tony_san on June 17, 2018, 11:29:14 PM
How do one know if the members of a project's telegram group are real people and not Bots. Also are there telegram audit services that can tell how many fake members are in a group.
Alomost all of these project are valid , but you can not make sure any project from these will be earnings . Because of some project even can not be listed on any exchange platform , so you can not get any from this project , just useless tokens .


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: Kgdktac on June 18, 2018, 02:14:04 AM
for someone to use telegram,  he must have type his phone number, this is to say that they are real


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: E-Verify on June 18, 2018, 03:17:23 AM
for someone to use telegram,  he must have type his phone number, this is to say that they are real

Not always the case, one can get a google number and one of those app numbers


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: wulian18 on June 18, 2018, 04:36:21 AM
You need to observe in the group and record how many people are talking. In general, there will be a number of unread messages prompting over a period of time, which can explain the activity of the group members.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: E-Verify on June 18, 2018, 04:43:45 AM
Why I think that there are projects with fake members is because I joined the telegram group of a project a while back and over time, the total number of members kept dropping. The project is one with prospect so I don't think it is the case of members loosing interest.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: Dubska on June 18, 2018, 04:49:47 AM
Some say that some groups have posting bot or paid trolls but I havent encountered one I guess. Maybe btc experts could give us better details about this matter.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: dashi555 on June 18, 2018, 04:52:52 AM
This is related to the project. High-quality projects often have true members, but I am afraid that there are few people who are in the airdrop.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: blockman on June 18, 2018, 08:04:41 AM
How do one know if the members of a project's telegram group are real people and not Bots.
It's easy to figure out if the person who's chatting on those telegram groups are bot.

And to say if the member's are real about the project, they are asking more details, serious details and questions that are on their minds. You can also see that they have invested to that project.

Also are there telegram audit services that can tell how many fake members are in a group.
I don't think that there is this type of service but that's a good idea for the emergence of telegram channels/bounties/communications.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: liuziwenfree on June 18, 2018, 09:14:36 AM
Telegram registration requires SMS or phone authentication!
This requires a sim card, which requires real-name authentication in my country!
The possibility of robots in Telegram is very low!


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: Insanerman on June 18, 2018, 10:07:31 AM
In most cases, you will encounter a telegram channel that has over 10,000 members but still being spammed by Airdrop referral links-- THESE ARE THE BOTS. Also few of these 10,000 members are investors to discuss the project and make a useful contribution to the community. In contrary, large numbers of people in the telegram are airdrop and bounty participants who ask questions such as "When is the distribution", "When listing", "What is the ICO price?", "Binance?" ;D. It's hilarious to see they are easy to identify as bounty hunters or dumpers LOL ;D


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: jseverson on June 18, 2018, 12:42:50 PM
Telegram registration requires SMS or phone authentication!
This requires a sim card, which requires real-name authentication in my country!
The possibility of robots in Telegram is very low!

There are still some countries that don't require any kind of verification though, so this isn't a very good reason to believe that it's unlikely for bots/alts to appear. Even if your country does link your identity to your numbers, Telegram doesn't, so they won't know it's the same person using multiple numbers. Some people say they can get Google Voice numbers to work with Telegram too, so it's probably quite easy to set up bots/alts.

But yeah there is no easy way to tell. Bots may be easier to catch because they typically aren't very sophisticated, but alts can be almost impossible to detect if their owner is smart enough. You just have to not trust anyone blindly and not judge the size of the community by just the number of members.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: Vineeta2oct on June 18, 2018, 05:29:31 PM
Fairly easy to tell if you spend some time in there. If you see telegram channels with 10k+ members, that's already huge. Usually real and active telegram channels have between 100 and 1000 active users. Most of those users that aren't active join because it's part of the bounty or requirements for the airdrop. That doesn't mean they aren't real, they just wont really say anything or pay much attention to the channel.

There are some groups which got filled (100k members) and then they made another group. Like EOPT is one such group. They made 4 groups with almost 360k members. How did they get so many members? Or how did someone create so many bots?


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: Catorabu on June 18, 2018, 11:49:16 PM
Telegram registration requires SMS or phone authentication!
This requires a sim card, which requires real-name authentication in my country!
The possibility of robots in Telegram is very low!

Not really.
OP, only admin can check the list of users.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: Harlot on June 19, 2018, 05:22:57 AM
You can have an easy gut feel with it when you are in a telegram group you can observe how many of those members are really real people just by the way they talk and the best thing is how accurate is there reply to you and other members. Some users only give worthless messages such as "when lambo?” this is where you know that these members are not there to really talk about the ICO. Just have a feel with the community and you will know of that group is worthy of your time.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: lookatmesong on June 19, 2018, 05:31:30 AM
Silent types who only ever drop referral links are bots. Or might as well be.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: Dubska on July 01, 2018, 01:37:00 PM
Telegram registration requires SMS or phone authentication!
This requires a sim card, which requires real-name authentication in my country!
The possibility of robots in Telegram is very low!
In some countries multiple sim card is still allowed and it not required to register your sim card number under your name. So they could register in telegram using multiple  sim card numbers.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: Chaki_ on July 01, 2018, 04:38:21 PM
Bot accounts reply you with a certain fixed lines and everytime you ask them the same question they automatically answer with the same line.
But people will be irrite if you keep asking the same question all over again, when you create a telegram account a number is needed so it need people for it, but some members on the telegram group only join to the group because it was requirement for airdrops/ campaign/ Investment.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: greplingforever on July 02, 2018, 01:48:44 AM
yeah ofcourse they are real :D hello guys  :-*


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: SuiMikira on July 02, 2018, 04:03:36 AM
I must tell you that half of them are bots, spam or clone accounts. I had my own experience of asking question in a >50k mem ico telegram group, what i got, no answer  :'(
These silent crowded telegram groups are results of airdrop campaign.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: vietnamga004 on July 02, 2018, 09:27:03 AM
THere are no audit services for Telegram. But still youll need to have a sim-card for every bot, which isnt that simple
but now we have some service like virtual phone number like: textnow, textplus. Cheater use these app to create hundred even thousand phone mumber. So in some project, most of members are fake. We need audit tool like twitteraudit to resolve this problem


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: matchi2011 on July 02, 2018, 09:37:37 AM
I must tell you that half of them are bots, spam or clone accounts. I had my own experience of asking question in a >50k mem ico telegram group, what i got, no answer  :'(
These silent crowded telegram groups are results of airdrop campaign.
Well, things can be done inside this channel and they can easily promote the project with the help of mass ads sp even inside telegram those bounty
hunters will do their best in order to collect/gain more rewards, better not to rely with it much better to ask directly with the devs or inside the post
thread so chances to got some real answer will happen.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: Crim3 on July 03, 2018, 10:01:54 AM
Do not expect that there will be at least half the people alive! I asked a simple question to the group where it was 8000 users in response I got nothing for many hours in a row! Only advertising and stupid disputes.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: iRespo on July 03, 2018, 10:41:13 AM
As we're doing ICO now a lot of scammers write to us on Telegram offering their services - they impersonate popular influencers. So just be careful.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: Charloz24 on July 03, 2018, 12:02:31 PM
You can check all telegram group participants and if you find big amount of deleted accounts(it's bots), you can to assess the quality of the channel itself and its participants


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: Woterry on July 03, 2018, 03:29:38 PM
How do one know if the members of a project's telegram group are real people and not Bots. Also are there telegram audit services that can tell how many fake members are in a group.

This is a funny question cause I also thought people in telegram groups are bots. But seriously speaking, you would know if they are real if they answer you not generically, but digging deep into your question.


Title: Re: Are telegram members of a project real? How can one tell?
Post by: jay sd on July 04, 2018, 06:55:47 AM
I have seen some telegram groups with more than 15K members. But the activities are very very less. We can see massages once in a while. I think those groups have been filled with fake members.