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Title: Mars
Post by: KingScorpio on June 21, 2018, 12:41:17 PM
https://i.imgur.com/EgE746B.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/azkCEsV.jpg

will we humans ever manage to keep the shape of our civilisation in takt so we can one day climb it and watch mars from above it?

Can you imagine the height and the area of this mountain, write down your guesses.


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: KingScorpio on June 22, 2018, 03:42:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrpP25Gyn1I

who also loves the colonization attempts of the red planet


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: Vod on June 22, 2018, 07:37:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmFOBoy2MZ8

This is an excellent video on colonizing Mars.

The author makes many science fact videos, but his speech impediment takes some getting used to.  (Sounds just like Barry Kripke on Big Bang...)  Once you get used to it though, his videos are incredible and pack so much information in such a short period.


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: KingScorpio on June 23, 2018, 01:09:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmFOBoy2MZ8

This is an excellent video on colonizing Mars.

The author makes many science fact videos, but his speech impediment takes some getting used to.  (Sounds just like Barry Kripke on Big Bang...)  Once you get used to it though, his videos are incredible and pack so much information in such a short period.

jes the way this guy is speeking is horrible.

why dont we just create and formalise cryptos for those high tech structures? why annoy people with empty cryptocurrencies like bitcoin?

i mean, imagine if ITER or the entire Fusion research or space research would have their own money?

regards


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: Vod on June 23, 2018, 01:28:28 AM
why dont we just create and formalise cryptos for those high tech structures? why annoy people with empty cryptocurrencies like bitcoin?

Bitcoin was just a proof of concept.  It has no future.  The blockchain is the future.

Going back to Mars - how will we make a blockchain span planets when the return ping time is 8,000 - 48,000 ms?  My ping time to my ISP is 1 ms. 


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: KingScorpio on June 23, 2018, 02:00:49 AM
why dont we just create and formalise cryptos for those high tech structures? why annoy people with empty cryptocurrencies like bitcoin?

Bitcoin was just a proof of concept.  It has no future.  The blockchain is the future.

Going back to Mars - how will we make a blockchain span planets when the return ping time is 8,000 - 48,000 ms?  My ping time to my ISP is 1 ms. 

thats a secondary issue solution will be findable, but we could use some structuralisation of crypto/digital asset indexes

sad that i dont own one of those indexes, but we surely could use some indexes, and filtering systems, so people that support high tech development filter the garbage, out including the countless chinese actors that want to make themselves chinas new nobility with their icos.


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: Vod on June 23, 2018, 02:43:56 AM
Going back to Mars - how will we make a blockchain span planets when the return ping time is 8,000 - 48,000 ms?  My ping time to my ISP is 1 ms. 

Sorry, I was off by a factor of 60.  I counted minutes, not seconds.

Return ping time to Mars would be 480,000 ms to 2.9 million ms


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: zanda99999 on June 23, 2018, 02:55:00 AM
why is the ground gray?  ???


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: Vod on June 23, 2018, 03:16:14 AM
why is the ground gray?  ???

I think you were looking at a gray scale photo, often taken to reduce image size.


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: xhomerx10 on June 23, 2018, 03:40:35 AM
https://i.imgur.com/EgE746B.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/azkCEsV.jpg

will we humans ever manage to keep the shape of our civilisation in takt so we can one day climb it and watch mars from above it?

Can you imagine the height and the area of this mountain, write down your guesses.

Mars and Earth are two of the three solid planets in our solar system; I assume they formed similarly (volcanism/plate tectonics).
 
Mt. Everest is 8850 meters
The ratio of gravities (Earth/Mars) is approximately 2.6426839126919967663702506063056

 8850 X 2.6426839126919967663702506063056 = 23387.752627324171382376717865805

 Mars mountain is probably ~ 23,388 meters above...
 ...Aw shit!  There's no sea level on Mars to start from.  I guess that's as accurate as I can get with my prediction.

 Did I win?!

 


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: KingScorpio on June 23, 2018, 03:47:14 AM
why is the ground gray?  ???

the mountain is the size of france, is very welcoming to climb if you approach form the soft entrance its just around 4.8 degree excavation. 8 m per 100m


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: Vod on June 23, 2018, 04:05:17 AM
Mars and Earth are two of the three solid planets in our solar system; I assume they formed similarly (volcanism/plate tectonics).
 

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars.   Four.  :)


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: xhomerx10 on June 23, 2018, 04:12:40 AM
Mars and Earth are two of the three solid planets in our solar system; I assume they formed similarly (volcanism/plate tectonics).
 

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars.   Four.  :)

  Dang!  That Mercury is always hiding behind the sun... out of sight out of mind?  :-\

 Thanks for the reminder.


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: Vod on June 23, 2018, 04:14:10 AM
Mars and Earth are two of the three solid planets in our solar system; I assume they formed similarly (volcanism/plate tectonics).
 

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars.   Four.  :)

  Dang!  That Mercury is always hiding behind the sun... out of sight out of mind?  :-\

 Thanks for the reminder.


Being off by one is OK.

In a few hundred million years the asteroid belt will probably form a fifth.  :)

THEN I will call you stupid for being off by two.


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: xhomerx10 on June 23, 2018, 04:19:29 AM
Mars and Earth are two of the three solid planets in our solar system; I assume they formed similarly (volcanism/plate tectonics).
 

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars.   Four.  :)

  Dang!  That Mercury is always hiding behind the sun... out of sight out of mind?  :-\

 Thanks for the reminder.


Being off by one is OK.

In a few hundred million years the asteroid belt will probably form a fifth.  :)

THEN I will call you stupid for being off by two.
 
 I am getting more stupid with age so I would imagine in a few hundred million years I'll be as dumb as a dodo... and possibly as flightless.



Title: Re: Mars
Post by: KingScorpio on June 23, 2018, 04:43:42 AM
Mars and Earth are two of the three solid planets in our solar system; I assume they formed similarly (volcanism/plate tectonics).
 

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars.   Four.  :)

pluto was also a solid stone planet...


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: Vod on June 23, 2018, 04:45:16 AM
Mars and Earth are two of the three solid planets in our solar system; I assume they formed similarly (volcanism/plate tectonics).
 

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars.   Four.  :)

pluto was also a solid stone planet...

Pluto is just an outer system asteroid - we have found many asteroids out there larger than Pluto.

https://thecraftyladyincombatboots.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/img_3945.jpg?w=535&zoom=2


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: xhomerx10 on June 23, 2018, 04:51:58 AM
Mars and Earth are two of the three solid planets in our solar system; I assume they formed similarly (volcanism/plate tectonics).
 

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars.   Four.  :)

pluto was also a solid stone planet...

 OMG.  I'm watching Discovery Science right now and I was about to mention Ceres when they started talking about it on the television!
Apparently they're thinking about using it as a gas station to refuel space ships.
 


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: KingScorpio on June 23, 2018, 05:10:27 AM
Mars and Earth are two of the three solid planets in our solar system; I assume they formed similarly (volcanism/plate tectonics).
 

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars.   Four.  :)

pluto was also a solid stone planet...

 OMG.  I'm watching Discovery Science right now and I was about to mention Ceres when they started talking about it on the television!
Apparently they're thinking about using it as a gas station to refuel space ships.
 

na nothing of this will happen,

civilisation is heading for another darkage, neofeudalist bankster cartel and anarchic cryptocurrencies....


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: Vod on June 23, 2018, 05:25:23 AM
na nothing of this will happen,

civilisation is heading for another darkage, neofeudalist bankster cartel and anarchic cryptocurrencies....

I agree with you that nothing will happen.   The lack of intergalactic chatter proves most intelligent species destroy themselves...

I would imagine most intelligent species are like us - they abuse the planet until it becomes uninhabitable... so then they build into earth orbit in anticipation of colonizing other planets.

Then a single accident happens, cascades, and the planet is rendered incapable of orbital construction for a few hundred years, and the population dies off due to planet abuse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome



Title: Re: Mars
Post by: KingScorpio on June 23, 2018, 01:29:58 PM
na nothing of this will happen,

civilisation is heading for another darkage, neofeudalist bankster cartel and anarchic cryptocurrencies....

I agree with you that nothing will happen.   The lack of intergalactic chatter proves most intelligent species destroy themselves...

I would imagine most intelligent species are like us - they abuse the planet until it becomes uninhabitable... so then they build into earth orbit in anticipation of colonizing other planets.

Then a single accident happens, cascades, and the planet is rendered incapable of orbital construction for a few hundred years, and the population dies off due to planet abuse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome



jes but we can fix that, just manage the cryptocurrency indexes and cryptocurrencies/icos in a way so that it will be constructive and enable a form of quality controll


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: shamc on June 23, 2018, 10:39:24 PM
I think it is like a huge version of Uluru in Australia. Perhaps the martians living on mars consider it a special mountain and will ban us from climbing it :P


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: KingScorpio on June 23, 2018, 11:07:30 PM
I think it is like a huge version of Uluru in Australia. Perhaps the martians living on mars consider it a special mountain and will ban us from climbing it :P

actually the mountain is the size of france and just 4.5 degrees escavation (is this right engl. expression?) climbing it you wont even consider you are climbing, its like travaling 250 km then you are at the top


Title: Re: Mars
Post by: Vonamor_signal on August 16, 2018, 08:35:51 AM
The great question is how to survive with other people in such a closed space for a long time and stay psychologically stable. We need science to dig into that, and to really to do more with how we evolve, grow up and deal with our internal issues.
I bet first expeditions to Mars are foinf to give a mass of new data on how that affects the human psyche.

Imagine how it's changing your paradigm - instead of living, say, in Wisconsin, you shift towards the Solar system...
That's boring, I guess, and it's all been described a hundred times, but here it is - for real!