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Title: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Cashi on June 28, 2018, 10:37:42 PM Interesting finding today: a formerly famous bounty manager, aTriz, has most likely lost access to his account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=135920 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=135920)
As I noticed so far, there were several scam accusations against him, running a shady bounty campaign of an ICO called Bitblisscoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2751956.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2751956.0) I don't know much about this issue and don't read the whole story, but this seems to fit into the picture that aTriz has financial problems. At first he can't refund some clients: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3253973.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3253973.0) Then his bounty engagement ended (he gave back the bounty management to the Moonlite devs) and finally I noticed, this comment from June 13, 2018: (The most likely last comment from him, trying to sell his signature space to gain money) I want to auction my Signature Space.. I have posted over dozens of Bitcointalk forum posts and most of them are active tell today with thousands of views. if you want your Banner ad to be visible on these threads and Get maximum attraction then this thread is for you. It is a solid offer for ICO projects who want to promote their ICOs.. I only accept Eth/BTC Starting Bid: 1 Eth or 500$ in BTC per Month.. Some of my Most Active Threads: Vernam Bounty Program: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3092582.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3092582.0) (20,000 views) Cryptorium ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2214098.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2214098.0) (60,000 Views) The next comments from this account were made on June 19 and the type of comments are very different from his former comments. Now he submitted lots of shitposts since June 19 and he is wearing a signature too. This could be due to his financial problems, but the posting type is totally different. For me it's obvious this account has changed hands, most likely sold, not hacked, because aTriz gave up his engagement as bounty manager. He is already tagged from actmyname for this issue, but if you see this conclusion everyone can confirm this. It's bad to see one of the best bounty managers is leaving this forum this way. :( Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: actmyname on June 28, 2018, 10:41:45 PM I actually noticed this earlier; that being the reason for my tag. It's really a shame because I quite liked the guy. Though, even despite their mistakes I do know that they returned the tokens in the moonlite campaign back to the owners. Which is pretty upstanding.
Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Quickseller on June 29, 2018, 01:30:55 AM He is most likely not the original owner of his account. It is likely that the account was sold shortly prior to going into business with lauda. Are you saying you think his account was sold more recently?
I think his actions are consistent with someone who is desperate for money and is willing to bend the rules in order to get more money. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: actmyname on June 29, 2018, 02:27:21 AM Are you saying you think his account was sold more recently? It was definitely sold more recently. The post quality dropped significantly. It's similar to that of low-effort account farmers rather than what I would expect from someone with the bitcoin experience of aTriz. Even if you have fallen from grace I don't expect your post quality to degrade to such a level.I think his actions are consistent with someone who is desperate for money and is willing to bend the rules in order to get more money. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Quickseller on June 29, 2018, 02:58:15 AM His password changed on June 12, the day before he tried to auction off his signature for $500. I do see a lot of really low effort posts made after that, with many in the past two days.
I don't keep track of the account market, so I have no idea if an account was listed for sale that matches the description of his account. I find it strange a signature spammer would buy his account as I cannot see him describing his account in a way that can reasonably earn anything in a signature deal. I am not sure how much sMerit aTriz has left, but maybe someone bought the account for the sMerit, saw its notoriety and tried to sell his signature. The bounty campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3211636.0) he is participating in is run by stormfold (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1354493), although I would not necessarily say he is necessarily involved in anything shady. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: actmyname on June 29, 2018, 03:09:53 AM I find it strange a signature spammer would buy his account as I cannot see him describing his account in a way that can reasonably earn anything in a signature deal. I am not sure how much sMerit aTriz has left, but maybe someone bought the account for the sMerit, saw its notoriety and tried to sell his signature. I believe that there are a few reasons for buying the account.1) Rank 2) sMerit In regards to rank, a lot of bounty campaigns are available in which negative trust doesn't affect the eligibility of the user. This means that a high rank results in higher rewards in a bounty's signature campaign. A signature spammer that is aware of this fact won't really care about who the account is or what they could do other than bounties (unless the account has a lot of notoriety). sMerit should be obvious. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Quickseller on June 29, 2018, 03:20:09 AM Yea I saw the bounty campaign he is participating in has no rule against having negative trust.
I have thought about the ICO bounty campaigns, and I have come to the conclusion they do not care who advertises for them -- I think they simply want their ads flashed as much as possible to gain traction on various social media platforms. I presume aTriz is probably still around somewhere. I have no idea if he purchased a new account, created a new account, or is using other alternate accounts he already had. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Scam Exposey on June 29, 2018, 03:46:28 AM I don't believe that atriz account has been sold and most provably he decide to used it on camp so that he can still earn money with that account. And also there's no dumb people will buy that account since at the first place Atriz account had bad reputation. Smerit and rank will do nothing on it since the reputation itself make the accounts world so small since there are limited camps are accepting red trust members now.
Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Silent26 on June 29, 2018, 05:42:51 AM Finally, someone noticed it too. A few days ago I've been stalking aTriz posts history and I noticed that his posts suddenly changed. By looking at his recent posts after June 14, his posts became low quality. He is also posting in some Megathreads recently and continuesly posting in low quality topics/threads. I doubt that the user who is now using the account is the real aTriz. The account is now similar to other members who only post for their paid signature.
I have suspicions that the account was either sold or lend to someone else. ~snip Actually, it doesn't matter if an account has Negative Trust, as long as it is a high ranked member someone stupid out there will still be willing to buy it.These two are the first reason. I believe that there are a few reasons for buying the account. 1) Rank 2) sMerit Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Quickseller on June 29, 2018, 06:14:30 AM From what I can tell, the advertised rate for the bounty campaign aTriz is participating in is roughly $3 per week based on the ICO price. Based on that earnings rate, I cannot imagine his account would sell for more than $20 or $25.
Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: pinkman12345 on June 29, 2018, 11:28:48 AM From what I can tell, the advertised rate for the bounty campaign aTriz is participating in is roughly $3 per week based on the ICO price. Based on that earnings rate, I cannot imagine his account would sell for more than $20 or $25. It is likely that atriz has still the control over his account, though he has stopped replying to me. I believe that he was the scapegoat caught in circumstances whereas there has been instances when he has handed me over more than 100k usd tokens for distributions and never used to think twice , at-least for me he was a nice guy.I hope wherever he is he will not repeat the mistake. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Lauda on June 29, 2018, 12:18:30 PM I believe that he was the scapegoat caught in circumstances... He made the decision on his own to knowingly 'go along' with a lie for the sake of 'marketing', without actually telling others about it or consulting them before doing so. Indeed, a true scapegoat. https://media.giphy.com/media/l0Iyau7QcKtKUYIda/giphy.gif Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: endlasuresh on June 29, 2018, 05:34:32 PM Yea I saw the bounty campaign he is participating in has no rule against having negative trust. Do you believe this would be his ALT account? someone ??I have thought about the ICO bounty campaigns, and I have come to the conclusion they do not care who advertises for them -- I think they simply want their ads flashed as much as possible to gain traction on various social media platforms. I presume aTriz is probably still around somewhere. I have no idea if he purchased a new account, created a new account, or is using other alternate accounts he already had. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1374485 You see ResuLT and aTriz Capital letters are used in both names, let me know why these DT Members never tagged him? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: actmyname on June 29, 2018, 05:44:42 PM Do you believe this would be his ALT account? someone ?? That's a really bad way of connecting accounts and I hope you understand why. It's like if you were to connect everyone who has a prefix of "bitcoin" together.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1374485 You see ResuLT and aTriz Capital letters are used in both names, let me know why these DT Members never tagged him? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: endlasuresh on June 29, 2018, 05:54:40 PM Do you believe this would be his ALT account? someone ?? That's a really bad way of connecting accounts and I hope you understand why. It's like if you were to connect everyone who has a prefix of "bitcoin" together.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1374485 You see ResuLT and aTriz Capital letters are used in both names, let me know why these DT Members never tagged him? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Quickseller on June 29, 2018, 05:56:57 PM Yea I saw the bounty campaign he is participating in has no rule against having negative trust. Do you believe this would be his ALT account? someone ??I have thought about the ICO bounty campaigns, and I have come to the conclusion they do not care who advertises for them -- I think they simply want their ads flashed as much as possible to gain traction on various social media platforms. I presume aTriz is probably still around somewhere. I have no idea if he purchased a new account, created a new account, or is using other alternate accounts he already had. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1374485 You see ResuLT and aTriz Capital letters are used in both names, let me know why these DT Members never tagged him? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Cashi on June 30, 2018, 01:20:23 AM He is most likely not the original owner of his account. It is likely that the account was sold shortly prior to going into business with lauda. Are you saying you think his account was sold more recently? Are you sure the bounty aTriz bought this account to manage bounties? I had a short look in the posting history and there ist a gap between May 2014 and April 2017, so this could be the first change: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=135920;sa=showPosts;start=2840I think his actions are consistent with someone who is desperate for money and is willing to bend the rules in order to get more money. The second change (if there was one) could be a few weeks ago. There are lots of things very suspicious. I don't know if the real aTriz would participate in a bounty getting only 3$ per week.. His password changed on June 12, the day before he tried to auction off his signature for $500. I do see a lot of really low effort posts made after that, with many in the past two days. Do you have a proof? I don't know, how long password or e-mail changes are shown, but I don't see a password or e-mail change in his profile, this could be an indicator his account hasn't changed hands. I don't know much about the history of aTriz, following this forum only since February / March 2018 and the first time, when I wrote OP, I thought this account was clearly sold, looking a the the last posts from one week ago but the second view it could be possible he has still access. I don't keep track of the account market, so I have no idea if an account was listed for sale that matches the description of his account. I find it strange a signature spammer would buy his account as I cannot see him describing his account in a way that can reasonably earn anything in a signature deal. I am not sure how much sMerit aTriz has left, but maybe someone bought the account for the sMerit, saw its notoriety and tried to sell his signature. The bounty campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3211636.0) he is participating in is run by stormfold (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1354493), although I would not necessarily say he is necessarily involved in anything shady. But participating in a bounty campaign with rewards of 3$ per week are very unlikely for him as aTriz would know about better bounties. :D sMerit should be obvious. Yes, if the buyer was looking for sMerit it's very strange, because if this account starts selling his signature space and shitposting this way it's obvious the DT members will notice it and tag all accounts the new aTriz owner is sending sMerits to. If this account really has changed hands, the new owner seems to be not very smart...Finally: difficult to say what happened... I can try to send him a PM if you want. Let's see, what happens... Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Quickseller on June 30, 2018, 07:40:42 PM He is most likely not the original owner of his account. It is likely that the account was sold shortly prior to going into business with lauda. Are you saying you think his account was sold more recently? Are you sure the bounty aTriz bought this account to manage bounties? I had a short look in the posting history and there ist a gap between May 2014 and April 2017, so this could be the first change: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=135920;sa=showPosts;start=2840I think his actions are consistent with someone who is desperate for money and is willing to bend the rules in order to get more money. The second change (if there was one) could be a few weeks ago. I can only speculate, however it is possible he controls multiple accounts, and was posting from multiple accounts on bounty campaigns until he focused on aTriz once he started running bounty campaigns. Many have claimed that aTriz and lauda are the same person, however this was frequently shot down under the guise that aTriz lives in Australia and that their posting times states do not match. His location is something he posted himself, and the posting times are inaccurate because of the fact he is not the original owner. Interestingly enough, the rules that lauda (http://archive.is/84IRC) was imposing on his campaigns in August 2017 were similar to the rules imposed by aTriz (http://archive.is/ubpx2), this is not proof of anything, and others may have also used similar rules, however it is one data point. If you look at the list (https://bitcointalk.org/gettopics.php?user=135920) of threads aTriz has opened, there are a very large number of threads he is trying to remove evidence of, including many threads ALU was running bounty campaigns for. ALU was not formerly announced (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2477796.0) until November 2017, and there is a clear attempt on the part of aTriz to remove evidence of the thread. There are lots of things very suspicious. I don't know if the real aTriz would participate in a bounty getting only 3$ per week.. I don't know if he would do that either, although I see little point in trying to sell his account that would likely not fetch more than $20 or so based on that earnings potential. His password changed on June 12, the day before he tried to auction off his signature for $500. I do see a lot of really low effort posts made after that, with many in the past two days. Do you have a proof? I don't keep track of the account market, so I have no idea if an account was listed for sale that matches the description of his account. I find it strange a signature spammer would buy his account as I cannot see him describing his account in a way that can reasonably earn anything in a signature deal. I am not sure how much sMerit aTriz has left, but maybe someone bought the account for the sMerit, saw its notoriety and tried to sell his signature. The bounty campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3211636.0) he is participating in is run by stormfold (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1354493), although I would not necessarily say he is necessarily involved in anything shady. But participating in a bounty campaign with rewards of 3$ per week are very unlikely for him as aTriz would know about better bounties. :D I don't know if they are available to those with negative trust. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: CarlosCorreia on June 30, 2018, 10:43:18 PM It is a shame what happened to aTriz!
Don't know if account was sold, neither when, but he was going downhill... The scam with Bitblisscoin was the most noticeable one, but some more campaigns stay unpaid as well. Personally, I participated in Bazista and Onsteller with aTriz as Bounty Manager. Bazista Team has now compensated everyone, but they keep saying that aTriz run away with their tokens. Onsteller looks like will be unpaid forever. I'm not that old on this forum, neither participate in many bounties with aTriz, but it was a recognize name around here. It is a shame what happened, and someone should try to get to the bottom of this... Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Quickseller on June 30, 2018, 11:35:46 PM It is a shame what happened to aTriz! aTriz was running many campaigns via ALU which lauda is also a member of. If you are aware of any campaigns that have not paid out tokens owed, I would suggest opening a scam accusation naming ALU. Don't know if account was sold, neither when, but he was going downhill... The scam with Bitblisscoin was the most noticeable one, but some more campaigns stay unpaid as well. Personally, I participated in Bazista and Onsteller with aTriz as Bounty Manager. Bazista Team has now compensated everyone, but they keep saying that aTriz run away with their tokens. Onsteller looks like will be unpaid forever. I'm not that old on this forum, neither participate in many bounties with aTriz, but it was a recognize name around here. It is a shame what happened, and someone should try to get to the bottom of this... Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: endlasuresh on July 01, 2018, 04:01:30 AM Here is the screenshot where atriz might tried to scam me.
i messaged him on dated December 13, 2017, 06:18:32 AM https://imgur.com/boNBmEM after this atriz replied check time stamps December 13, 2017, 06:19:15 AM https://imgur.com/FgKd8Li after his reply again I replied him back Time December 13, 2017, 06:30:03 AM https://imgur.com/pSJ7EYp Instead of Replying to me he directly posted in the thread claiming my prize using Result account. December 13, 2017, 12:22:44 AM https://imgur.com/DfA9jNd It really shows aTriz is account farmer, @actmyname what you can say from the above screenshots?? Why does Lauda didnt tagged the Result account? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Lauda on July 01, 2018, 04:06:19 AM Why does Lauda didnt tagged the Result account? Because you are an idiot and I need not tag anyone on your behalf. Pajeets and their self-entitlement. ::)Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: endlasuresh on July 01, 2018, 04:29:49 AM Why does Lauda didnt tagged the Result account? Because you are an idiot and I need not tag anyone on your behalf. Pajeets and their self-entitlement. ::)You told so many things and you never knew about ALU or ALU projects. Do you know how to make partnership? Quickseller already revealed it's a bought account and I ask why you trusted aTriz account? also who bought that account? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Lauda on July 01, 2018, 04:31:49 AM Do you know how to make partnership? Quickseller already revealed it's a bought account and I ask why you trusted aTriz account? Don't know, don't care.also who bought that account? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: actmyname on July 01, 2018, 04:34:16 AM Here is the screenshot where atriz might tried to scam me. What do the PM's have to do with the ResuLT account's post?i messaged him on dated December 13, 2017, 06:18:32 AM https://ibb.co/mf6BHJ after this atriz replied check time stamps December 13, 2017, 06:19:15 AM https://ibb.co/h2WdxJ after his reply again I replied him back Time December 13, 2017, 06:30:03 AM https://ibb.co/mCWdxJ Instead of Replying to me he directly posted in the thread claiming my prize using Result account. December 13, 2017, 12:22:44 AM https://ibb.co/eTG0Bd It really shows aTriz is account farmer, @actmyname what you can say from the above screenshots?? Why does Lauda didnt tagged the Result account? Literally nothing. The PM's are also sent after the post was made so your timeline is off. Your argument has fallen apart. Actually, it was never even properly formulated to begin with. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: retampan on July 01, 2018, 04:45:29 AM I ask why you trusted aTriz account? S/he isn't trusting aTriz since his BitBlissCoin accusation and disbanding ALU projects after that (CMIIW)See here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2751956.msg28114228#msg28114228) for more explanation about aTriz. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: endlasuresh on July 01, 2018, 05:48:53 AM Here is the screenshot where atriz might tried to scam me. What do the PM's have to do with the ResuLT account's post?i messaged him on dated December 13, 2017, 06:18:32 AM https://imgur.com/boNBmEM after this atriz replied check time stamps December 13, 2017, 06:19:15 AM https://imgur.com/FgKd8Li after his reply again I replied him back Time December 13, 2017, 06:30:03 AM https://imgur.com/pSJ7EYp Instead of Replying to me he directly posted in the thread claiming my prize using Result account. December 13, 2017, 12:22:44 AM https://imgur.com/DfA9jNd It really shows aTriz is account farmer, @actmyname what you can say from the above screenshots?? Why does Lauda didnt tagged the Result account? Literally nothing. Quote The PM's are also sent after the post was made so your timeline is off. Your argument has fallen apart. Actually, it was never even properly formulated to begin with. The post was done after private messages only check the time stams here is another screenshot. I thought to post on that day only against aTriz, but as per his reputation thought he was honest. https://imgur.com/f9TBa1T and the rebel who also a winner private messaged me. https://imgur.com/TkMCe0B The above images got deleted but ill load them on imgur and update the post. I see you are lying at this part by telling forum timings, do you ever know how the forums run? P.s If any moderator or admin wanted proof then ask me ill give my login details. Account farmers always get busted. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: actmyname on July 01, 2018, 10:37:07 AM The post was done after private messages only check the time stams What are you saying?Read your post again: i messaged him on dated December 13, 2017, 06:18:32 AM https://imgur.com/boNBmEM Instead of Replying to me he directly posted in the thread claiming my prize using Result account. December 13, 2017, 12:22:44 AM https://imgur.com/DfA9jNd Is 12 AM after 6 AM? No. Therefore, the post was made before any of your PM's. 00:22:44 < 06:18:32 Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: endlasuresh on July 01, 2018, 11:50:54 AM The post was done after private messages only check the time stams What are you saying?Read your post again: i messaged him on dated December 13, 2017, 06:18:32 AM https://imgur.com/boNBmEM Instead of Replying to me he directly posted in the thread claiming my prize using Result account. December 13, 2017, 12:22:44 AM https://imgur.com/DfA9jNd Is 12 AM after 6 AM? No. Therefore, the post was made before any of your PM's. 00:22:44 < 06:18:32 wrong stats 12:22:44 > 06:18:32 Atriz replied after a minute again I messaged but no reply 12 AM result had posted in thread. I hope you got it now. There are two more prizes why didnt chosed? why it happen after private messaging to aTriz? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: pugman on July 01, 2018, 02:39:14 PM I did notice the post quality change of aTriz a few days ago here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4505375.msg40689444#msg40689444) and then almost forgot about it.
For those implying that aTriz account was bought, he had several trades with people in the collectibles section and I believe they sent everything to Sydney, Australia where the original owner is from(?). Although,a lot of people found it weird that, aTriz came out of nowhere and started managing high paying campaigns, and he got a solid start. Until, the alia con attempt which blew up more on aTriz than it did on alia. And then comes the bitblisscoin screw up. I am pretty sure that aTriz won't get himself into Wasn't aTriz also doxxed? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 01, 2018, 02:46:57 PM Although,a lot of people found it weird that, aTriz came out of nowhere and started managing high paying campaigns, and he got a solid start. I noticed that at the time as well, but nobody seemed to say anything about it as it was happening. It was definitely kind of weird. I was in one or two of his campaigns and he was always on the ball, which is why it sucks that he let greed get the best of him. He's not a stupid person, so it wasn't that.And then comes the bitblisscoin screw up. If I recall correctly, before he got busted for his shenanigans, he applied for a relatively low-paying signature campaign, which I found surprising at the time. I can't remember which one it was, but I remember wondering if his campaign manager days were over at that point.I am pretty sure that aTriz won't get himself into Don't know what happened to him, but it's possible he just gave up the forum and moved on. With the merit system nowadays, it would be pretty tough to rank up a new account to the level he had the aTriz one at. I'm sure he could buy an account, however, but who knows if he did or not. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: o_e_l_e_o on July 01, 2018, 07:58:54 PM Wasn't aTriz also doxxed? As part of the whole alia debacle, *she revealed his real name but stated that she also knew his address and details about his family. IIRC, none of that was ever revealed before she was banned. *If the scammer behind that account was actually female as claimed. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Quickseller on July 01, 2018, 10:23:01 PM And then comes the bitblisscoin screw up. If I recall correctly, before he got busted for his shenanigans, he applied for a relatively low-paying signature campaign, which I found surprising at the time. I can't remember which one it was, but I remember wondering if his campaign manager days were over at that point.I am pretty sure that aTriz won't get himself into Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: actmyname on July 01, 2018, 11:46:13 PM 12:22:44 > 06:18:32 This is true. But did you know that 12 AM comes before 6 AM?Here's how the time works: 12 PM is noon, which is 12:00 in 24hr time. 12 AM is midnight, which is 00:00 in 24hr time. December 13, 12:22 AM precedes December 13, 6:18 AM. This is common knowledge, I don't know what's so hard to understand. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: HCP on July 02, 2018, 03:55:31 AM This is common knowledge, I don't know what's so hard to understand. Perhaps it will work a bit better if we just re-arrange the OPs original post into the correct timeline: 1. ResuLT posts FIRST in the thread claiming my prize December 13, 2017, 12:22:44 AM (This is just after MIDNIGHT... 0022 hrs in 24 hour time) https://imgur.com/DfA9jNd 2. i messaged aTriz on dated December 13, 2017, 06:18:32 AM https://imgur.com/boNBmEM 3. after this aTriz replied check time stamps December 13, 2017, 06:19:15 AM https://imgur.com/FgKd8Li 4. after aTriz reply again I replied him back Time December 13, 2017, 06:30:03 AM https://imgur.com/pSJ7EYp I don't see how on earth he has linked ResuLT to aTriz??!? ??? especially based on this one thread post and the 3 PMs... It's just nonsense. ??? 6 AM I messaged to atriz Apparently you don't... the correct order (as per above) is actually:Atriz replied after a minute again I messaged but no reply 12 AM result had posted in thread. I hope you got it now. - 12 AM ResuLT had posted in thread - 6 AM you messaged to aTriz - aTriz replied after a minute again you messaged but no reply Quote There are two more prizes why didnt chosed? why it happen after private messaging to aTriz? it didn't happen AFTER... it happened BEFORE you PM'd with aTriz. ::)Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: endlasuresh on July 02, 2018, 09:42:34 AM 12:22:44 > 06:18:32 This is true. But did you know that 12 AM comes before 6 AM?Here's how the time works: 12 PM is noon, which is 12:00 in 24hr time. 12 AM is midnight, which is 00:00 in 24hr time. December 13, 12:22 AM precedes December 13, 6:18 AM. This is common knowledge, I don't know what's so hard to understand. I know you won't TAG since there are l lots of accounts that are used by Scammers. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: endlasuresh on July 02, 2018, 09:51:09 AM This is common knowledge, I don't know what's so hard to understand. Perhaps it will work a bit better if we just re-arrange the OPs original post into the correct timeline: 1. ResuLT posts FIRST in the thread claiming my prize December 13, 2017, 12:22:44 AM (This is just after MIDNIGHT... 0022 hrs in 24 hour time) https://imgur.com/DfA9jNd 2. i messaged aTriz on dated December 13, 2017, 06:18:32 AM https://imgur.com/boNBmEM 3. after this aTriz replied check time stamps December 13, 2017, 06:19:15 AM https://imgur.com/FgKd8Li 4. after aTriz reply again I replied him back Time December 13, 2017, 06:30:03 AM https://imgur.com/pSJ7EYp I don't see how on earth he has linked ResuLT to aTriz??!? ??? especially based on this one thread post and the 3 PMs... It's just nonsense. ??? 6 AM I messaged to atriz Apparently you don't... the correct order (as per above) is actually:Atriz replied after a minute again I messaged but no reply 12 AM result had posted in thread. I hope you got it now. - 12 AM ResuLT had posted in thread - 6 AM you messaged to aTriz - aTriz replied after a minute again you messaged but no reply Quote There are two more prizes why didnt chosed? why it happen after private messaging to aTriz? it didn't happen AFTER... it happened BEFORE you PM'd with aTriz. ::)Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: actmyname on July 02, 2018, 03:00:08 PM I dont know the timings, but it happened after sending message to atriz. You noticed it after sending a message to aTriz. The post was made beforehand. I know you won't TAG since there are l lots of accounts that are used by Scammers. What does that mean? I won't tag them just because there's a high number of scammer accounts? Doesn't make sense to me.Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: pugman on July 02, 2018, 03:36:53 PM I was in one or two of his campaigns and he was always on the ball, which is why it sucks that he let greed get the best of him. He's not a stupid person, so it wasn't that. I don't think aTriz did it for a few bucks. There's probably more to the story than what it seems. Would he risk his reputation for a few hundred bucks? Maybe not, but since a lot of people are jeopardizing their reputation for a few bucks, it doesn't seem to be a new thing now. I noticed that at the time as well, but nobody seemed to say anything about it as it was happening. It was definitely kind of weird. I was in one or two of his campaigns and he was always on the ball, which is why it sucks that he let greed get the best of him. He's not a stupid person, so it wasn't that. I think a few people were talking about it, not directly but people were talking.If I recall correctly, before he got busted for his shenanigans, he applied for a relatively low-paying signature campaign, which I found surprising at the time. I can't remember which one it was, but I remember wondering if his campaign manager days were over at that point. aTriz shouldn't have any problem earning merits, he was naive but he wasn't a shitposter (until now). But he'll most likely buy another account, if he has done the same before. Don't know what happened to him, but it's possible he just gave up the forum and moved on. With the merit system nowadays, it would be pretty tough to rank up a new account to the level he had the aTriz one at. I'm sure he could buy an account, however, but who knows if he did or not. Honestly, aTriz should have come clean the moment he figured out about the bitblisscoin scenario, and he would have still been around. People started getting really hard on him after the alia con-attempt. Even if he is gone, he shall not be forgotten. That's all I have to say. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 02, 2018, 05:50:15 PM If he did apply a low paying signature shortly after getting busted, then he probably did not recently sell his account either, and the aTriz we know is currently shit posting. It was before he got busted. I remember this because it surprised me that a campaign manager with as many irons in the fire as he had going at the time would be applying for a sig campaign, and I remember thinking that he might be giving up being a campaign manager. But I don't recall when exactly that was or which campaign, so my recollection isn't much evidence here.Would he risk his reputation for a few hundred bucks? He might have. I've seen people risk reputations for a lot less than that, and some people think their reputation is going to protect them from scam accusations, i.e., they get cocky because once they get a little bit trusted and have people defending their actions, they think they can get away with anything. I don't know if that was the case with aTriz, and we'll probably never know.Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: retampan on July 02, 2018, 06:56:11 PM I know you won't TAG since there are l lots of accounts that are used by Scammers. What does that mean? I won't tag them just because there's a high number of scammer accounts? Doesn't make sense to me.Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: ibminer on July 02, 2018, 09:07:41 PM Wasn't aTriz also doxxed? As part of the whole alia debacle, *she revealed his real name but stated that she also knew his address and details about his family. IIRC, none of that was ever revealed before she was banned. *If the scammer behind that account was actually female as claimed. I believe there were 2 different doxxes on the aTriz account showing one name, I believe one was in 2017 and the other was alia (and it did post it somewhere). However, early on under the account in 2013, the account owner went by "Adam" in a public post, this post was deleted sometime after 2016 based on the archived date. The account wakes up from a posting gap in April of 2017, after being inactive from 2014, appearing to be hacked or possibly changing hands, the owner ends up later signing a message from a staked address in 2013 which unfortunately had no date ... all explained here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2751956.msg34475343#msg34475343). The Adam name from 2013 did not match the 2 recent dox names (Ke* Ma*), so I question who the original owner actually was. I may be wrong but I'm under the belief the dox from 2017 may have been fake - including alia's re-use of it, and that the account owner staged the dox in 2017 to potentially gain trust or establish a real life identity to give people comfort, but that's just one guys opinion. :-\ Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: aTriz on July 03, 2018, 02:12:36 PM reserved to post a sign message.
the account is still in my control, never sold nor even want to sell this account. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Quickseller on July 03, 2018, 02:25:33 PM reserved to post a sign message. How are you planning on signing a message? The last time you posted something implying you didn’t buy your account you presented a message that looking back that makes me believe you don’t control the private key to the address associated with the original owner. the account is still in my control, never sold nor even want to sell this account. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: pugman on July 03, 2018, 10:43:04 PM reserved to post a sign message. Can you sign with these addresses: 1LjT88X7Zu8BdbqJw8vfRa83NJuzYL9kqm and 1aTrizet7ocQ7nrfPcYiFhbtDPMF8Wfrithe account is still in my control, never sold nor even want to sell this account. And with today's date on it? The first address was used here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272577.msg3019535#msg3019535). Crazy theory: Something makes me believe that aTriz's account was being used by someone else until today(forum time). Now the aTriz who used to manage bounties, is back to prove that he is the owner. Maybe to protect the buyer, if the implications about the account being bought and sold are true? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Flying Hellfish on July 03, 2018, 11:28:40 PM I guess I'm still trying to figure out why people care anymore about who owns the account? Based on the amount of obfuscation and misdirection and everything else why would anyone deal with this account no matter who controls it?
If it turns out sold or if one of the atriz signs a message is trust likely added or removed based on that, seems really unlikely. With the amount of red paint on there removing or adding a coat or two aint gonna make a lick of difference anyway IMO. I mean the account is essentially useless (except maybe the smerit if any), isn't it? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: digaran on July 04, 2018, 12:41:38 AM I guess I'm still trying to figure out why people care anymore about who owns the account? Based on the amount of obfuscation and misdirection and everything else why would anyone deal with this account no matter who controls it? If it turns out sold or if one of the atriz signs a message is trust likely added or removed based on that, seems really unlikely. With the amount of red paint on there removing or adding a coat or two aint gonna make a lick of difference anyway IMO. I mean the account is essentially useless (except maybe the smerit if any), isn't it? FYI, Quickseller has a hard-on for aTriz and Lauda, therefore they would follow their every move to get something on them one way or another. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: LoyceV on July 04, 2018, 08:10:55 AM I mean the account is essentially useless (except maybe the smerit if any), isn't it? I think he started with 175 sMerit (assuming he earned maximum Activity in the past year: (378/378)*0.35*500 using theymos' formula (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3342949.msg35131159#msg35131159)).He's had these transactions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3078328.msg41141277#msg41141277): Code: 121. 164 Merit received by aTriz (#135920) from 53 unique users in 61 transactions Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 04, 2018, 08:14:53 AM If it turns out sold or if one of the atriz signs a message is trust likely added or removed based on that Well if it does end up that we discover that the account is sold, I'm going to change my neutral trust to a negative. I probably should have done that to begin with, but at one point I hoped his was a reputation that could be rehabilitated with some acts of contrition or whatever. He was a really good campaign manager and seemed to be a nice guy on top of that. Now I can see that rehabilitation isn't going to happen. I'm just not certain the account was sold, but I'm keeping an eye on this thread. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: o_e_l_e_o on July 04, 2018, 08:18:13 AM -snip- I totally agree with FHF here. Additionally, the situation is comparable to what's going on with Bruno right now. We have a previously well trusted account, which has been involved in shady activities and may or may not have been sold. In my opinion, proving who is currently in control of the account changes nothing - I still would not trust it/them. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: LoyceV on July 05, 2018, 08:39:13 AM Crazy theory: Something makes me believe that aTriz's account was being used by someone else until today(forum time). Now the aTriz who used to manage bounties, is back to prove that he is the owner. Maybe to protect the buyer, if the implications about the account being bought and sold are true? Me: Quote did you give away/sell your aTriz account? This is his explanation:Quote nope de nope I don't think a signed message will prove anything more than this.Lol. I just hired a guy to complete 15 posts a week so I could earn something from signature and pay the dues. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Josepht on July 05, 2018, 08:48:40 AM I've just asked aTriz on Telegram. Me: Quote did you give away/sell your aTriz account? This is his explanation:Quote nope de nope I don't think a signed message will prove anything more than this.Lol. I just hired a guy to complete 15 posts a week so I could earn something from signature and pay the dues. I don't get that. I mean, I do understand why one would hire someone to post for them, but at some point, the original aTriz must realize that he is getting flagged, which he shouldn't want to happen to his reputation. If something like that would happen to me, I would fire the guy who posts for me directly after the first negative trust. Why didn't he do that? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: tmfp on July 05, 2018, 08:58:11 AM Quote from: aTriz Lol. I just hired a guy to complete 15 posts a week so I could earn something from signature and pay the dues. Oh, that's alright then. Asshole behavior. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Quickseller on July 05, 2018, 01:49:58 PM Quote from: aTriz Lol. I just hired a guy to complete 15 posts a week so I could earn something from signature and pay the dues. Oh, that's alright then. Asshole behavior. IMO it shouldn’t be all that surprising considering who he was in business with. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: pugman on July 05, 2018, 02:02:55 PM Crazy theory: Something makes me believe that aTriz's account was being used by someone else until today(forum time). Now the aTriz who used to manage bounties, is back to prove that he is the owner. Maybe to protect the buyer, if the implications about the account being bought and sold are true? Me: Quote did you give away/sell your aTriz account? This is his explanation:Quote nope de nope I don't think a signed message will prove anything more than this.Lol. I just hired a guy to complete 15 posts a week so I could earn something from signature and pay the dues. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: HCP on July 05, 2018, 09:00:47 PM Hire a guy for 3$? That's ridiculous. Have you not seen the legions of spammers, retweeters and bookfacers in the Altcoin section and, to a slighter lesser extent, the main boards? ???There are quite a number of folks willing to do more for less... :-\ Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: actmyname on July 05, 2018, 09:23:20 PM Hire a guy for 3$? That's ridiculous. Have you not seen the legions of spammers, retweeters and bookfacers in the Altcoin section and, to a slighter lesser extent, the main boards? ???There are quite a number of folks willing to do more for less... :-\ And also, account farmers and sig spammers wouldn't really say no to more "free money" :) Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: pugman on July 05, 2018, 11:42:55 PM Have you not seen the legions of spammers, retweeters and bookfacers in the Altcoin section and, to a slighter lesser extent, the main boards? ??? No, what I meant was that, the bounty that aTriz is participating is paying him 3$, from what I have read*. And hiring a guy for that(which would fetch him cents),is completely ridiculous. Although, I do see a possibility where an idiot got greedy for getting a few cents. There are quite a number of folks willing to do more for less... :-\ Considering the fact that aTriz is a Legendary user, wouldn't a low-ranking user think to themselves that it would be better to post from such an account and take a commission rather than earn less on their own account and mitigate against any ban risks? Maybe, but that might not be the case here. And also, account farmers and sig spammers wouldn't really say no to more "free money" :) *I may be entirely wrong on aTriz getting only 3$. I have a very bad feeling that I am wrong on that, and I am too lazy to even bother to correct myself. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: aTriz on July 06, 2018, 08:34:32 AM Quote from: aTriz Lol. I just hired a guy to complete 15 posts a week so I could earn something from signature and pay the dues. Oh, that's alright then. Asshole behavior. Yes I know lol.. but considering my current situation. I did not see anymore option. someone suggested me to join amazix bounties's signature campaign. they pay very high rates and also accept red trust accounts.. but the only problem was that I wasn't able to complete the required number of posts (15) each week. I have a lot of things to sort out. including sneaky payment and all the amounts from the unpaid bounties. so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. I was busy in shifting from a small apartment (I had to vanish my home). Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: marlboroza on July 06, 2018, 04:03:41 PM reserved to post a sign message. 3 days after still reserved to post a sign message...the account is still in my control, never sold nor even want to sell this account. Quote from: aTriz Lol. I just hired a guy to complete 15 posts a week so I could earn something from signature and pay the dues. ~but considering my current situation. I did not see anymore option. ~ https://etherscan.io/address/0x951f744903d2c9013c65de1957bc883718d91358#tokentxns I am pretty sure blockeye said they send tokens to you: https://archive.fo/jw16z#selection-6553.0-6557.459 Quote Atriz offer me writing article for verify project for double stakes and I sold my stakes in one of my facebook GC regarding crypto since I don't want token. After I announce about my stakes for sale. He offer me to buy it. I don't have time to check if I receive the token so he just added me on a GC with other guy and he tell us to transfer now the token to him. Quote Note: You can contact atriz regarding this offer that I mention. Well?Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 06, 2018, 04:09:09 PM Yes I know lol.. This quality of English is not what I'm accustomed to, having had several PMs from you in the past and being familiar with your posts. I'm dubious that this is actually the person who ran the campaigns I was in. aTriz had pretty much excellent grammar, and what he wrote did not look anything like what's written here.but considering my current situation. I did not see anymore option. someone suggested me to join amazix bounties's signature campaign. they pay very high rates and also accept red trust accounts.. but the only problem was that I wasn't able to complete the required number of posts (15) each week. I have a lot of things to sort out. including sneaky payment and all the amounts from the unpaid bounties. so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. I was busy in shifting from a small apartment (I had to vanish my home). Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Quickseller on July 06, 2018, 04:13:38 PM so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: snakey on July 06, 2018, 05:40:17 PM Quote from: aTriz Lol. I just hired a guy to complete 15 posts a week so I could earn something from signature and pay the dues. Oh, that's alright then. Asshole behavior. Yes I know lol.. but considering my current situation. I did not see anymore option. someone suggested me to join amazix bounties's signature campaign. they pay very high rates and also accept red trust accounts.. but the only problem was that I wasn't able to complete the required number of posts (15) each week. I have a lot of things to sort out. including sneaky payment and all the amounts from the unpaid bounties. so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. I was busy in shifting from a small apartment (I had to vanish my home). God bless you. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: pugman on July 06, 2018, 11:07:51 PM This quality of English is not what I'm accustomed to, having had several PMs from you in the past and being familiar with your posts. I'm dubious that this is actually the person who ran the campaigns I was in. aTriz had pretty much excellent grammar, and what he wrote did not look anything like what's written here. I have had quite a few PMs with aTriz when he used to manage campaigns, and the grammar, the quality of English might be the same as before. He used to keep the messages really short and kept it American style. I am not quite sure on him having excellent grammar, but he was okayish. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: ibminer on July 07, 2018, 01:24:36 AM Yes I know lol.. but considering my current situation. I did not see anymore option. someone suggested me to join amazix bounties's signature campaign. they pay very high rates and also accept red trust accounts.. but the only problem was that I wasn't able to complete the required number of posts (15) each week. I have a lot of things to sort out. including sneaky payment and all the amounts from the unpaid bounties. so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. I was busy in shifting from a small apartment (I had to vanish my home). This post, and other recent posts, unfortunately do not sound anything like the aTriz that was PM'ing me during the alia debacle - I can't be certain before then. IMO, whoever operated the account at that time certainly didn't talk/type anything like this. Be wary! Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Quickseller on July 07, 2018, 04:38:46 AM Yes I know lol.. but considering my current situation. I did not see anymore option. someone suggested me to join amazix bounties's signature campaign. they pay very high rates and also accept red trust accounts.. but the only problem was that I wasn't able to complete the required number of posts (15) each week. I have a lot of things to sort out. including sneaky payment and all the amounts from the unpaid bounties. so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. I was busy in shifting from a small apartment (I had to vanish my home). This post, and other recent posts, unfortunately do not sound anything like the aTriz that was PM'ing me during the alia debacle - I can't be certain before then. IMO, whoever operated the account at that time certainly didn't talk/type anything like this. Be wary! Also, aTriz often came up with excuses have long delays in answering questions and was often scant on details in the alia saga. The same is true when someone came forward claiming to be the original owner when aTriz provided a undated signed message. I would speculate that aTriz has not been transferred recently and that he (or someone close to him) controls a decent number of sock puppets. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: darklus123 on July 07, 2018, 05:18:27 AM Well, whatever that is atriz made a choice. Atleast in the end the truth about this person was revealed.
I highly doubt that the person behind this is out even if the account was sold or whatsoever. That person might still be here hiding on some accounts safely Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: aTriz on July 07, 2018, 10:16:24 AM Quote from: aTriz Lol. I just hired a guy to complete 15 posts a week so I could earn something from signature and pay the dues. Oh, that's alright then. Asshole behavior. Yes I know lol.. but considering my current situation. I did not see anymore option. someone suggested me to join amazix bounties's signature campaign. they pay very high rates and also accept red trust accounts.. but the only problem was that I wasn't able to complete the required number of posts (15) each week. I have a lot of things to sort out. including sneaky payment and all the amounts from the unpaid bounties. so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. I was busy in shifting from a small apartment (I had to vanish my home). God bless you. since when? dude don't mislead people . I have been talking to everyday on telegram. even i sent you message yesterday. your payment is on top of my list and I am doing hard to clear that out. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: aTriz on July 09, 2018, 06:14:58 AM -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
aTriz is still in my possession, date is 7/7/2018 -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1LjT88X7Zu8BdbqJw8vfRa83NJuzYL9kqm IK/Kuec0KWV2zPM/YbTdpxUw4osOmftMUfb1TYJWbp+QfGRIgz5MIJ3kozDYXkoAMtwMeU7RyqU1kbHZs8rKxk8= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: o_e_l_e_o on July 09, 2018, 10:17:58 AM so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. Even ignoring the fact that the writing style and behaviour of this account has totally changed, signing a message from an old address proves nothing considering you have already admitted that you are renting your account out to others. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Findingnemo on July 09, 2018, 11:16:32 AM so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. Even ignoring the fact that the writing style and behaviour of this account has totally changed, signing a message from an old address proves nothing considering you have already admitted that you are renting your account out to others. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: aTriz on July 09, 2018, 02:07:37 PM so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. Even ignoring the fact that the writing style and behaviour of this account has totally changed, signing a message from an old address proves nothing considering you have already admitted that you are renting your account out to others. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Findingnemo on July 09, 2018, 03:51:57 PM so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. Even ignoring the fact that the writing style and behaviour of this account has totally changed, signing a message from an old address proves nothing considering you have already admitted that you are renting your account out to others. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: aTriz on July 10, 2018, 03:43:33 PM so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. Even ignoring the fact that the writing style and behaviour of this account has totally changed, signing a message from an old address proves nothing considering you have already admitted that you are renting your account out to others. LOL. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: allahabadi on July 10, 2018, 05:44:51 PM so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. Even ignoring the fact that the writing style and behaviour of this account has totally changed, signing a message from an old address proves nothing considering you have already admitted that you are renting your account out to others. LOL. I'm happy that you are finally showing your true colours. Shitposting paw-licking motherfucker... Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: aTriz on July 11, 2018, 07:12:34 AM so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. Even ignoring the fact that the writing style and behaviour of this account has totally changed, signing a message from an old address proves nothing considering you have already admitted that you are renting your account out to others. LOL. I'm happy that you are finally showing your true colours. Shitposting paw-licking motherfucker... sometime only one word explains a lot. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Steamtyme on July 11, 2018, 11:43:36 AM This seems like a recipe for disaster, especially with you granting access to your profile to someone else.
Bump.. I am re opening my management service thread. open for new projects. Or has the account actually changed hands and we get to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite, despite the trust rating. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: shield132 on July 11, 2018, 11:34:21 PM Don't know if there was talk about this and I'm a little bit busy to check those posts because aTriz was never under my attention but did he finally refund money as he promised everyone publicly here? I guess no but looking for real answer.
Do you really think that his account is hacked? It's more likely sold (but why to buy red trusted account with bad reputation?) or aTriz is still here, despite the fact that his english is worse currently, I still think it's done manually. At least if someone bought it, then he would take care of returning aTriz's reputation back and his English would be good too but still I think aTriz wants to get max from this account while it still works for earning from here. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: leowonderful on July 12, 2018, 12:34:49 AM Don't know if there was talk about this and I'm a little bit busy to check those posts because aTriz was never under my attention but did he finally refund money as he promised everyone publicly here? I guess no but looking for real answer. Considering how things are unfolding right now I think it's extremely unlikely aTriz's account is ever going to get his reputation back, and his buyer knows that. Whoever's in control of his account's likely trying to milk as much money as possible out of his account, considering he's reopening his campaign service. Do you really think that his account is hacked? It's more likely sold (but why to buy red trusted account with bad reputation?) or aTriz is still here, despite the fact that his english is worse currently, I still think it's done manually. At least if someone bought it, then he would take care of returning aTriz's reputation back and his English would be good too but still I think aTriz wants to get max from this account while it still works for earning from here. There's definitely people out there who would buy red-trusted accounts given they had some sort of presence in the community before being bombarded with red tags. Money's likely the motivation for this as I posted above if the account was indeed purchased along with multiple of aTriz's old contact methods, though I don't think anybody's going to purchase a campaign management service from a red tagged user who has seemingly completely changed in many negative ways. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 12, 2018, 12:45:04 AM you have no idea what is shit posting.. I know I said it already in this thread, but this isn't the level of English I read when I communicated with the aTriz account via PMs a few months ago, before it got all the negative feedbacks. Sure, if you're the original owner you could be faking that, just like I was writing in a silly stereotypical voice with Huge Black Woman, but I can't see any reason why you would. The signed message isn't rock-solid evidence you're the original owner, because I'm sure the private keys to addresses that have been staked can and do get sold along with bitcointalk accounts.sometime only one word explains a lot. It'll be interesting to see what happens if aTriz actually gets back into the campaign management game. I'm sure people will be willing to flock to those campaigns, but the problem is in getting hired to manage any with the feedback he's got. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: actmyname on July 12, 2018, 01:26:49 AM The signed message isn't rock-solid evidence you're the original owner Did anybody manage to verify it? I tried to and it said that it wasn't valid. This was by using Electrum, by the way.I might be doing something wrong with the whitespace characters (sometimes messages include those accidentally) Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: pugman on July 12, 2018, 02:21:55 AM The signed message isn't rock-solid evidence you're the original owner Did anybody manage to verify it? I tried to and it said that it wasn't valid. This was by using Electrum, by the way.I might be doing something wrong with the whitespace characters (sometimes messages include those accidentally) https://imgur.com/jxH4wgL Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: HCP on July 12, 2018, 04:47:04 AM The signed message isn't rock-solid evidence you're the original owner Did anybody manage to verify it? I tried to and it said that it wasn't valid. This was by using Electrum, by the way.I might be doing something wrong with the whitespace characters (sometimes messages include those accidentally) I tried it too and it failed to verify. It verifies on Brainwalletx if you use the Bitcoin-QT option (http://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=1LjT88X7Zu8BdbqJw8vfRa83NJuzYL9kqm&vrMsg=aTriz%20is%20still%20in%20my%20possession%2C%20date%20is%207%2F7%2F2018%20&vrSig=IK%2FKuec0KWV2zPM%2FYbTdpxUw4osOmftMUfb1TYJWbp%2BQfGRIgz5MIJ3kozDYXkoAMtwMeU7RyqU1kbHZs8rKxk8%3D) and make sure that there is a space after the date: https://talkimg.com/images/2023/11/15/z8MNl.png It also verifies in Bitcoin Core (again, you need the space at the end of the date): https://talkimg.com/images/2023/11/15/z8m41.png Like the others, I could not get it to verify in Electrum... perhaps Electrum is stripping trailing whitespace? ??? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Quickseller on July 12, 2018, 06:32:43 AM It'll be interesting to see what happens if aTriz actually gets back into the campaign management game. I'm sure people will be willing to flock to those campaigns, but the problem is in getting hired to manage any with the feedback he's got. As long as there are shady ICOs/campaigns around, aTriz should have no trouble getting hired to manage campaigns. jamalaezaz has a decent amount of controversy around the campaigns he manages and he allegedly has gotten a decent amount of business since these controversies. He probably can even hold the ICO tokens necessary to pay bounty participants because if he tries to pull any shenanigans, it would be trivial for the company behind the ICO to resolve this issue by invalidating stolen tokens in one of many ways. This is one reason why I am against using the trust system against those who are not suspected of planning on trying to steal money or property from others in the future (or have not attempted to steal the same already). I would say the totality of the circumstances indicate that aTriz never cared about the community and has only ever cared about his personal finances. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: aTriz on July 21, 2018, 08:05:12 PM As Actmyname didn't accepted the last message coz that wasn't verified to him (it was verified to me and to other users) so I am posting a newly signed message again:
Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hope this time it will work. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: marlboroza on July 21, 2018, 09:42:07 PM Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hope this time it will work. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: allahabadi on July 22, 2018, 03:44:19 PM Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hope this time it will work. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: marlboroza on July 22, 2018, 06:45:21 PM I sincerely think that this BTC address has been tagged along this account to whosoever buys it; right from the beginning (probably even when the most trusted and experienced Well, he was able to sign message, there is no proof he bought account....unless you can find extraordinary evidence.OP lock topic. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Timelord2067 on July 24, 2018, 06:45:29 AM I sincerely think that this BTC address has been tagged along this account to whosoever buys it; right from the beginning (probably even when the most trusted and experienced Well, he was able to sign message, there is no proof he bought account....unless you can find extraordinary evidence.OP lock topic. What about signing from that other wallet address you've used 1aTrizet7ocQ7nrfPcYiFhbtDPMF8Wfri (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1aTrizet7ocQ7nrfPcYiFhbtDPMF8Wfri) ?? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: allahabadi on July 24, 2018, 02:52:37 PM I sincerely think that this BTC address has been tagged along this account to whosoever buys it; right from the beginning (probably even when the most trusted and experienced Well, he was able to sign message, there is no proof he bought account....unless you can find extraordinary evidence.OP lock topic. Okay... So account trading invites Neg; but account loaning or sharing is a rational act? Quote from: aTriz Lol. I just hired a guy to complete 15 posts a week so I could earn something from signature and pay the dues. Oh, that's alright then. Asshole behavior. Yes I know lol.. but considering my current situation. I did not see anymore option. someone suggested me to join amazix bounties's signature campaign. they pay very high rates and also accept red trust accounts.. but the only problem was that I wasn't able to complete the required number of posts (15) each week. I have a lot of things to sort out. including sneaky payment and all the amounts from the unpaid bounties. so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week for 50% a payment.. I was busy in shifting from a small apartment (I had to vanish my home). Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: LoyceV on July 24, 2018, 07:54:51 PM Okay... So account trading invites Neg; but account loaning or sharing is a rational act? I don't think it matters much. He's at -24 now, more red trust isn't going to change anything.I'm kinda waiting for aTriz to receive 2 more Merit somewhere, that would be evil. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: allahabadi on July 27, 2018, 09:41:35 AM Okay... So account trading invites Neg; but account loaning or sharing is a rational act? I don't think it matters much. He's at -24 now, more red trust isn't going to change anything.I'm kinda waiting for aTriz to receive 2 more Merit somewhere, that would be evil. I have seen Bounty managers having double digit negs and still getting campaigns... So I dunno if it will be a handicap if he still tries to get campaigns... Anyways a three digit neg might be better for safety... ;D Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: aTriz on July 27, 2018, 10:40:49 AM Okay... So account trading invites Neg; but account loaning or sharing is a rational act? I don't think it matters much. He's at -24 now, more red trust isn't going to change anything.I'm kinda waiting for aTriz to receive 2 more Merit somewhere, that would be evil. I have seen Bounty managers having double digit negs and still getting campaigns... So I dunno if it will be a handicap if he still tries to get campaigns... Anyways a three digit neg might be better for safety... ;D I am working on those issues which caused the neg reps.. and I hope they won't be here for long. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: allahabadi on July 27, 2018, 05:37:39 PM Okay... So account trading invites Neg; but account loaning or sharing is a rational act? I don't think it matters much. He's at -24 now, more red trust isn't going to change anything.I'm kinda waiting for aTriz to receive 2 more Merit somewhere, that would be evil. I have seen Bounty managers having double digit negs and still getting campaigns... So I dunno if it will be a handicap if he still tries to get campaigns... Anyways a three digit neg might be better for safety... ;D I am working on those issues which caused the neg reps.. and I hope they won't be here for long. So u expect people to remove your neg... Why should they? Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 27, 2018, 05:47:39 PM So u expect people to remove your neg... Apparently he's paying people back, which is a good sign, but I think he's got a very long way to go. I also have my doubts as to whether anyone would remove their neg from his trust page even after he's paid off his debts.Why should they? I also have serious doubts as to whether the person behind the aTriz account is the same person I dealt with some months ago when I was in his campaigns. The command of English is definitely different, which I've expressed before and which aTriz hasn't addressed. And the story about letting someone use his account to earn money was a weird one. Even with the signed message he provided I have doubts--and I'm sure others do as well. aTriz was an excellent campaign manager, but I'd be wary of hiring him as a manager again with all of these doubts. His style of writing was never very good except in cases where he really was trying to write properly and/or had others double check the grammar. It's what I call lazy writing; quite common among friends in IM chats. Lauda, glad to see you more active as of late! I get what you're saying, but his most recent posts differ from the PMs I got from him a while back. It doesn't sound like a lazy style but rather a different grasp of language. I could be wrong, but it's weird. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Lauda on July 27, 2018, 07:35:33 PM The command of English is definitely different, which I've expressed before and which aTriz hasn't addressed. His style of writing was never very good except in cases where he really was trying to write properly and/or had others double check the grammar. It's what I call lazy writing; quite common among friends in IM chats. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: LoyceV on July 27, 2018, 11:52:25 PM It's what I call lazy writing; quite common among friends in IM chats. I've had a hard time understanding his messages, because of the abreviations and slang. This is probably easier to understand for native English speakers.My guess would be typing is much more "lazy" when he uses a phone than when he uses a computer with full size keyboard. So u expect people to remove your neg... Apparently he's paying people back, which is a good sign, but I think he's got a very long way to go. I also have my doubts as to whether anyone would remove their neg from his trust page even after he's paid off his debts.Why should they? Quote aTriz was an excellent campaign manager, but I'd be wary of hiring him as a manager again with all of these doubts. Campaign management doesn't necessarily mean the campaign manager is in charge of any funds.Quote I get what you're saying, but his most recent posts differ from the PMs I got from him a while back. It doesn't sound like a lazy style but rather a different grasp of language. I could be wrong, but it's weird. I tend to believe the story that someone temporarily used the account. Judging by the latest posts, that person is gone, and aTriz is doing some campaigns again.Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: gergfghfh on July 28, 2018, 08:05:46 AM It was definitely sold more recently. There may have been someone breaking into his account. I trust aTriz very much. Hope he will return soon with a stronger investment account. It was definitely sold more recently.
Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: allahabadi on July 28, 2018, 09:35:17 AM Well that still didn't explain why he left a lot of Bounty in the middle and I think even took off with tokens without computing sheets.
If even by repaying, people remove their neg which he got for being a liar and co-conspirator... I would be forced to doubt the parameters of the individuals... As it is I feel he has got special treatment as a paw licker... Long live the greedy scammy racist coterie... Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: Quickseller on July 28, 2018, 05:35:11 PM his most recent posts differ from the PMs I got from him a while back. It doesn't sound like a lazy style but rather a different grasp of language. I could be wrong, but it's weird. so I Talked to a guy who agreed to make 15 posts a week He hired someone to make posts from his account for him. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: marlboroza on July 29, 2018, 10:31:38 AM I sincerely think that this BTC address has been tagged along this account to whosoever buys it; right from the beginning (probably even when the most trusted and experienced Well, he was able to sign message, there is no proof he bought account....unless you can find extraordinary evidence.OP lock topic. What about signing from that other wallet address you've used 1aTrizet7ocQ7nrfPcYiFhbtDPMF8Wfri (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1aTrizet7ocQ7nrfPcYiFhbtDPMF8Wfri) ?? Waiting for aTriz to say they lost private keys ::) Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: allahabadi on August 03, 2018, 06:00:47 AM I sincerely think that this BTC address has been tagged along this account to whosoever buys it; right from the beginning (probably even when the most trusted and experienced Well, he was able to sign message, there is no proof he bought account....unless you can find extraordinary evidence.OP lock topic. What about signing from that other wallet address you've used 1aTrizet7ocQ7nrfPcYiFhbtDPMF8Wfri (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1aTrizet7ocQ7nrfPcYiFhbtDPMF8Wfri) ?? Waiting for aTriz to say they lost private keys ::) Well it would be a bit awkward,if he claims to own that address; then why is the fucking scamster delaying his payments. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: cunicula on October 04, 2018, 08:37:24 AM So people were right that atriz was driving a new account, but did not earlier atriz said that he is not using anyother account?? Hmm...lier?
Welcome xapo..zapo. Title: Re: aTriz account has most likely changed hands Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 26, 2020, 07:11:37 AM aTriz just made his first posts after 10 months. Four of them were applications in various signature campaigns ([1] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197049.msg55427728#msg55427728), [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283032.msg55427761#msg55427761), [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217201.msg55427809#msg55427809), [4] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283705.msg55432328#msg55432328)). Like any manager would select him after a pause of 10 months lol.
His 5th and 6th posts were other posts where he is looking for a job ([5] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283685.msg55432383#msg55432383), [6] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2232934.msg55432390#msg55432390)). Actually, the 6th post is a bump of his topic where he announces that he is looking for a job as campaign manager. Like anyone would hire him as a manager after what he did with Gunbot campaign (https://web.archive.org/web/20190903114953/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2482937.460). Anyway, excepting the ridiculous posts, the main problem is that the account can be owned by someone else. Be careful when dealing with this account. |
