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Alexander Momot, co-founder and CEO of the UK-based cryptocurrency startup REMME, recently posted on Facebook, showing data on ICO tokens held by investors in 36 countries as of June this year, saying the company collected data on almost all white papers. Monitor some of the ICO's overall trends, such as whether residents in each region tend to hold or sell within four months of the currency.

From the data presented by Momot, it can be found that in developing countries such as Brazil, Nigeria, Pakistan, Turkey, and the Philippines, buyers tend to sell ICO tokens within four months after issuing coins. Russia and Ireland also have such short-term buyers, holding only 12% and 21% of investors.

In developed countries such as the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, Switzerland, Sweden, and Hong Kong, buyers tend to hold longer, but Ukrainian buyers also tend to hold, and their share of investors held in four months 58%.

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So you know what you should do. Mature practices will get more rewards.

It is all about when the investor needs the money to buy house or land or car or Gold and Silver etc.... or when the profit is 400% or 700% that is advisable to sell and book the profits because 400% profit is very good.

The original difference is that the methods of developed countries should be more robust and mature. This difference is not a matter of one person, but it is the entire country’s perception of investment methods.

Data is the most telling problem. I think in the developed countries, their investment institutions should also be based on long-term holdings rather than short-term speculation. This is very useful for reference.

So most of the people from the developed countries are trusting more of these ICOs?

What's the purpose of that data and what REMME intended to show is just basically the stats on the difference between these long term and short term holders. No need to argue about why most are selling at a very short period of time, it's about profit not the tech and support.

How can we rely to that Info. As far as I know every investors have their own way of approach the business or holding crypto. They can choose to sell it without our knowledge because they are the owner. Although by long term holding is being get ready to whatever is necessary.

reading and analyzing from the information data that is listed from the article, I am more optimistic about the existence of crypto in the community, the society has been able to see crypto as a result of appropriate technology and also as an economic value, which later can be used as an alternative investment and practice the economy of buying and selling, my opinion certainly there should be a plan that can include the ability and strategic plan both short and medium short and long to be able to sustain between the present and the future in order to be able to more quickly in penyesuain both technologically and economically, hopefully useful and successful for We all

I think developing countries actually sell they're alt coins or ICOs to use in their everyday expence since they treat these as short term investments or even additional income. Or, developing countries actually exchange some of the income from ICOs to BTC as a long term investment. Bottom line is, developing countries would think that BTC and ETH are the only once that matter. .

right, and i feel that way, where i live in a developing country. ethereum and bitcoin are the main choices to make a profit. and with a government attitude that has not yet legalized bitcoin, then cryptocurrency is just to enrich itself

Seeing this, I thought of why everyone in the developing world is eager for quick success and profit, and sells on profits, whether in business or in the cryptocurrency world. However, people in developed countries are often more willing to believe that holding will bring more benefits because they receive more education and do value investment instead of speculation.

I did not expect that there will be such a big difference in investment behavior between different countries. If there is a comparison of the benefits of these two investment methods, then it should be more meaningful.

I think the long and short term is also very good that we get, with us investing in bitcoin for the long term, and we also can get with short term we can invest in Alt, so for us also good we hold.

I think the meaning of investment is long term. then I always buy a crypto and hold it until next year. profit from crypto I use to memebeli back if the price of crypto decreased.

they definitely sell their ICO token with losses. i saw a lot of ICO did not delivery their product within that period.
mostly all of them below ICO price right now. with this current bitcoin and ethereum price, i think mostly they suffer 80% loss or more

I think this icon wants to illustrate the difference in the way people from different countries invest. Not for the current market, whether in a bear or bull market, people in developed countries tend to hold rather than sell. But developing countries are used to making short-term investments, whether in bull markets or bear markets.

I can relate this to one thing, the differences in the currency prices of individual country. I mean with developing countries the prices of their local currency against the USD are higher. Thus whenever the ICO prices rises for tokens they might be getting lot of profits as compared to the developed countries where the currencies are high cost. Thus it could be differentiating and little conflicting reason that leads to such counties to sell earlier (because they are profited already) and for other its not the same thing.

Maybe because they tend to hold from the start, aside from that they have money and can live normally even though they will not succeed i ncrypto. I guess people that only in a country that is poor who only sells their coins in the beginning.

I think bitcoin is produced in developed countries rather than developing countries. However, some people in developed countries are short-term trading, but the proportion of this group is very low. In backward countries, the proportion of long-term holdings is even lower.

It seems that I want to change my way of investing. Every time you sell it too fast, it's really hard to make money.

Very interesting data, it turns out that the investment patterns of different countries have such differences, and they think that it is only related to personal investment style.

I like long-term, that is what I choose, if held in the long term, I can choose to sell his coin at a reasonable price, and higher than the other coin. So I always choose the long term is reasonable.

Looks like developed countries are as always smart enough to know what they re doing. I mean they know very well the fact of holding and how it can benefit them in the long terms. This has also got to do something with the ICO founders being the locals one. I mean most of the ICO are getting developed in the developed countries like UK, Europe regions and almost all the rest developed countries. This does adds the effect of being one close to the national investment sort of thing.  :) I guess its always good to hold long term because there always needs time for anything to grow and proliferate.

I think the choice of investment in this market depends on the ability of the investor, if you are good at technical analysis and have time to monitor the market, short-term investment and vice versa if you are not good at technical analysis, choose the potential and invest in a few months.

I think the reason for this is simple : Many people in developing countries are using their limited disposable income to buy these tokens in the hope that they would make significant profits in the short-term. <Get-Rich-Quick crowd>

The people of the developed countries have more disposable income to invest in the ICO's and to risk on these types of investments, and they can wait for longer for any kind of profit. <Their currencies are also much stronger than the currencies in the developing countries> So if these ICOs are hosted in a developing country, then their currency will be able to buy more tokens for less money.

Seriously dude? 400% profit? That will be a far cry for most of the coins and that would be a dream profit which is unlikely to happen. 100% profit is a very ideal percentage for all the investors and those who desire a higher profits are those greedy ones which are more prone to losing in the long run because of the uncertainties in the market.


There are no conclusion in the data given as to which type of crypto users earned the most profit, those who holds longer or those who dont.

I guess it could be related to poor infrastructure of the developing countries which keeps the people from getting hard on their investment. They cant just hold it because they have fear of loosing their money. Anyway this data is good for the ICO's actually because they can be targeting their ICO later on. But again there could be thing where they might just loose some good investors from such countries. For targeted ICO's its good one but in general terms this data is just data with no such use in the market. But its good that you brought it up for some reason.  :)

I think whether long term or short term it will depend on the price of the crypto coin you are holding. Just  keep track of the market price. For me, this is the best thing to do.

Its not a shocking news the developing countries only buy to get the profit and they don't have that alot free funds to hold for a long time, so they will keep moving and moving to another coins, most of investors still not believe in crypto as currency so they only invest to make profit

It's good to see that the developed countries are trusting the ICO's, so we have an idea that the ICO's is a long-term. Since some investment are long-term.

This kind of shows how badly the former countries needed money compared to those developed countries. Can't say that it's about greed but it's out of necessity. Some already turned crypto trading into a job.

It turns out that my investment is mostly short-term, and it is rarely held for a long time. Then I didn't make money and I missed a lot. I need to reflect on...

That's right. Developing countries don't have enough knowledge of future information, just as they always do some processing work, so they should pay more attention to new technologies and things that have an impact on the future, such as blockchain.

but that doesn't mean that in every case you need to do the same, every alt, every project, every coin has different moves and future, so investing in anything should be always different, that is my opinion about it.

I don't think ICO developers need to put this research into consideration since it will potentoally discourage them into promoting their tokens into these countries which will put then into a bad position. For me it is only a matter of cryptocurrency awareness. The more ICOs being launch in this countries the more of them will imvest and hold their tokens. So thos kinds of results should be avoided for future ICOs as it would definitely affect other countries into ICO participation.

Nope I don’t think it means more about maturity of one investors, but the necessity or the need of one persons on a financial aspects.

This monitoring effort only shows what is on the surface and not what it is within the core. ICO as untrustworthy project for some will have a big factor on its result.

Do think about it and don’t judge people on what they decided to do when they choose to think what is best for them.

I really do not expect experienced investors not to play their card rightly most of the time anyway since they have been in the game for long. The good thing about cryptocurrency is there is no segregation and it is accessible to everyone, so knowing that most inexperienced investors will actually be coming from developing countries is normal.

I still feel all the whole analysis is based on speculations, as I am trying to wrap my head around how the data was gotten and linked to know these countries were actually the ones selling the most.

It will be useful for reference if we actually can get the full brief of the research, the methods used in carrying out the research and how they came about the whole conclusion, otherwise I would just imagine that someone sat down in his bedroom, and out of reasoning and assumption, concluded that it is normal and believable that underdeveloped and developing countries are more prone to selling their tokens pretty fast than developed.

As long as there is no data backing it up, it is just a theory, not a fact! If OP is going to have to prove me otherwise, he sure knows he should be adding some link with detailed explanations of all I said initially.

It seems that I belong to the short-term holding. Then always make a small amount of money. But I want to know if holding more than 4 months will bring a lot of benefits? I just heard that many people have a good return for a few years.

You are justifying with your decision. Yeah that is absolutely right here. In long term there are so many chances for you to make good earning because prices are continuously increasing and decreasing in front of you while you are just at safe side. And as the highest target just ticked out, you are good to go for making a great selling. Good luck to all those who are waiting for so longtime.

I would always prefer long term investment because long term only gives more profit than short term. If you are a bitcoin holder just hold the coin for long term once the price will reach high then you can sell and earn more profit. Now only the price of bitcoin starts to increase so in future it has more growth. Hold the coin instead of selling now,  the price will increase more than now.

It makes insane sense that developed countries sell under 4 months. Its not because people from there are "inpatient" no they need the money to live, unless it gives a return or yield some dividends so they could live, people from those countries can not keep that money in cryptocurrency forever because their need of money is urgent.

However people from developed countries can afford to just save money and put it aside and buy coins with it. Its not that people from places like USA are more patient, its about them not needing the money for living.

That's correct, letting the project mature and real time product will give the investors good profit. Only those people who join the ICO and don't have patience will fail in the process.

There are difference between long-term and short-term investments. I believe that long-term investment is when you invest an amount of money in cryptocurrency with plans to leave it for a long time, maybe up to a year or so, cause you’re hoping that the price of that stock or asset will go up within a particular time as you might have planned. As for short-term, you have no plans to leave it for long, just little quick profits at every time.

Yep you’re right. Whether long-term or short-term investments, as you said mature practices gets more rewards. You need to have the skills, you’re not getting any profit if you don’t make use of good skills, you need to be smart in the business and know what you’re doing and the right time for any action. I’m not into the long-term investment type, I do short-term and I’m making a lot of profits. Last year was a boom!

People invest for different reasons and based in a particular geographical location is just coincidence as the report has identified since the whole people in a particular country will just form an association then decide this is the time to sell and move on to another project its on the basis of individuals and what the interpretation of long term and short term constitutes and then decides based on that.

I personally is an advocate of letting the project mature and kick start but the way its being practiced, even during the ICO, people would have started asking when is it going to be listed on an exchange site, when one is listed, they have for bigger platform and the moment the developers are not giving favorable responses to that, the next is to start speculating some form of scamming activities going on with the project. The best is for people to be genuinely interested in the project they are putting their money in while the developers should plan for long term development and not rush into giving in to request of either short term investors and bounty hunters looking for the next available opportunity to cash out.

being a long-term holder i think have many benifit, because doing some investment i think need a lot of time, because just time who make it perfect. short term are good but is bit of hard to making more profit in it, well long-term have more delicious than short-term

It's upto you whether you want to hold your investment for long term or you want to sell it in short term. Many people tend to hold their investments for long term even if they are in a good profit, likewise, many people sell off their investments for short term profit. As for myself I prefer going long term on most of my investments.

Yeah you are right/ all the people invest their money in order to earn more and more and when you realize that now the price is quite good you can sell your holding for higher price. if you can trade you can make money in short time, but if you do not know how to trade affectively then holding for long time is better. You can make money after waiting for some time.

It is interesting though to see such research and the outcome. However, it is funny to see that with all these KYC, data are actually being sold.

Nevertheless, I am not surprised that such things tend to happen but what I do not understand is how they were able to come up with the countries and either attach wallet addresses to such owners and knowing if they actually did sell or not on exchanges unless the data was actually gotten directly from exchanges.

I still feel there is a lot of bias in this, knowing anyway that developing countries are more prone to selling faster than developed countries. I wish I could see the link to the whole analysis and how it was actually carried out or else it is just baseless assumption.

Yes it is a tangible result if everyone invests long-term big profits will be earned if everyone is waiting and be patient in investing crypto.

So is this a real advantage if investing in the long term? many talk if long-term investments are very difficult because it requires patience to hold crypto assets. they choose to trade or invest in the short term.

Thousands of methods of earning money but the problem is capital. When you have no money how can you earn money? Although you know best ways of making money. Poor countries cannot invest big capital because they hardly overcome their daily needs and crypto investment needs extra money, so if you lose you will not be upset.

Short-term or long-term, depending on the method of each person. There are many long-term or short-term plans, but each one gives us some results. It can be short to generate more cash flow but it takes longer to track fluctuations. Long term, when the price is the sale. And I'm profitable x3 x5 is stopping now to store assets go to standby and wait for new plans.

Very interesting information. I agree that if a good coin, you need to keep it, you can earn more. but before you sell, you need to analyze the market.

How to make more money, but important how to turn them into passive income. Money works for us every day, that's the thing to do. Investors too have many ways to participate in the strategy and because you decide on them, go far or near to just be profitable to stop. Choose a method to avoid the incident, not as expected.

I believe that at this time we should only short-term investment, you can see that bitcoin prices are constantly falling and difficult to guess, so to be successful transaction is very difficult. So I believe that this time you should only short-term investment to be able to reduce the risk. The market is volatile and I believe that long-term investment in risky altcoin will be huge.

That's right, depending on the ability and investment direction of each person that can choose the appropriate investment in this market. Financial investment, the ultimate goal is still to profit for investors so take the appropriate strategy to be able to adapt to the developments of this market.

Yeah! We can't say that we will hold our coins forever because there are always unnecessary events that will happen to our lives. A long term holder must have financial stability otherwise you will spend your money in emergency scenario. The problem with small investors like me is that, we cannot easily reach our main goal when we are investing a coin that we want but then, I tried our best to hold it.

What you are saying was not a long term, that was short term. These two terms are both profitable in different ways. If you can monitor the price of it everytime it is mich better if you will do short term where you are buying at a low price and sell in a high value. In long term you dont care what the proce of it today, you have a set time when you will going to sell it.

I am believe holding our cryptocurrency for long term will more profitable than short term. Cryptocurrency market cap right now far below other investment market and I am believe market cap cryptocurrency will reach trillion dollar. Cryptocurrency market is just 9 years old and not many knowing about crypto. When they realize the potential crypto, I am believe crypto price will rising but its need time

For developed countries, the tendency is long-term investment, because their mindset and mentality are smarter and bolder. While developing countries the percentage is more short-term investment. Large investors play with full calculation, if you want big profits, you must wait longer, and even then if the price goes up, if the price drops, the losses are waiting.