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Title: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nutildah on July 01, 2018, 03:52:16 AM
Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: First77 on July 01, 2018, 03:58:29 AM
Bitcoin 2 coming ??   :o  21,000,000 bitcoins is less for world economy which is $50,000,000,000,000/year


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: CoinstarF on July 01, 2018, 04:15:58 AM
Bitcoin 2 coming ??   :o

Many idea and writing that bitcoin is dead fall down, now expected that the coming second birth of bitcoin is going to happen a few months to wait therefore we must prepare and take care of it cultivate until it grows same as his or her siblings before we must do also our participations to be better good.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: Fathurrahman27 on July 01, 2018, 04:20:54 AM
I am also curious about the website they are referring to, but they didn't say it where. Will if Satoshi Nakamoto back will bring the impact of rising Bitcoin?


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: krishnapramod on July 01, 2018, 04:21:33 AM
Lol, if I remember right Bloomberg had reported someone to be Satoshi in October or November last year, promoting another altcoin, another gimmick with the book.

If someone wants to read here's, the PDF file, http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org/duality.pdf

Quote
Timechain = Blockchain

Branch point = Fork

Moore's law didn't work out.

That night, v0.1.3 on Hals computer crashed, yet again. It seemed like I would be settled to having to fix errors non-stop. I sent him the debug build for it and we both came to the conclusion that the disk full that was the culprit. I had always disliked projects that consisted of big dependencies but there was just no avoiding it as each one is essential.

Hal was the first person to build on the proof of work concept, and the first to come up with a reusable proof of work. This was essential in prototyping bitcoin, for his work on RPOW as e-money is what inspired me to use the POW in the first place. Much to the chagrin of people today, I still believe in the virtues of a Proof of Work system (I will explain why in the books).

Couple of first paragraphs dedicated to Mike Hearn, bottom to Hal Finney. Center with, although sounds genuine, I will explain in the books.



Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: retampan on July 01, 2018, 04:56:18 AM
Email him and get his PGP key verified, I'd think its enough to prove if he was real Satoshi Nakamoto.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: franky1 on July 01, 2018, 05:09:02 AM
OP is linking a blog site (blog section of fortune.com) where someone created the handle bloomberg
the article wrote by that someone actually says that the real bloomberg cannot confirm or deny the article

the OP's footnote.. is a link that goes to youtube to play the video... by rick astley... AKA as a rickroll video  (basically the punchline meaning you just been trolled)

all in all.. i see it as a troll topic


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: Pursuer on July 01, 2018, 05:11:31 AM
if Satoshi wanted to write a book and stay anonymous he wouldn't do it in a way to raise any suspicions about his identity. he would stay anonymous easily and publish his book(s) and for all we know we already have books written by him and we don't know it yet.

if Satoshi wanted to write a book and reveal his identity he would simply include a signature in the book revealing his identity in a way that is easy to verify by everyone and is undeniable.

when we see someone who is shady and evasive about it and has no proof, it means have another scammer like Craig Wrigt at our hands.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: glowing10 on July 01, 2018, 05:14:03 AM
Not sure how much to believe it or not. Because a person who almost from a decade did not turn up and had wanted to be back would have being when the price was rocket high last year and now when it has dipped a lot. For me it is nothing more than speculation.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: franky1 on July 01, 2018, 05:28:08 AM
If someone wants to read here's, the PDF file, http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org/duality.pdf

i read it. and bull crap.
seems like someone who was not around in 2009 just recently looked at the publicly available information and tried to rewrite history by hinting at a few publicly available emails and a few buzzwords to make it seem legit. but in the end does not know the true concept of bitcoin and its consensus mechanism. and actually fails at the real history and code understanding.

thus i call bull crap


Title: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nutildah on July 01, 2018, 05:40:30 AM
OP is linking a blog site (blog section of furtune.com) where someone created the handle bloomberg
the article wrote by that someone actuallys says that the real bloomberg cannot confirm or deny the article

Whoops, that was actually my bad. I changed the subject title to reflect that its Fortune.

the OP's footnote.. is a link that goes to youtube to play the video... by rick astley... AKA as a rickroll video  (basically th punchline meaning you just been trolled)

That part is more meant to appeal to the "get rich quick" crowd, and yes it is meant to be a rickroll. I'm happy its working.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: pxo.011 on July 01, 2018, 06:25:49 AM
even if satoshi nakamoto is back there is no guarantee that the price will be affect we all hope that it will happen we dont even know if its true and if it is then it would be great and the whales will come back to btc and it will pump pretty good.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: bitfocus on July 01, 2018, 06:29:54 AM
in that case, the book is already the bestseller :)


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: funchiestz on July 01, 2018, 06:34:33 AM
It could be a funny joke. If there is someone called Satoshi, and even if it is the only one, he will not risk being deciphered by issuing a book. Also, if there is such a person, I am sure that the book was published on the internet. It does not make much sense.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: bitcampaign on July 01, 2018, 06:41:13 AM
so here's what I wait for if satoshi is really back then bitcoin will get better, whether I'm just dreaming or not but I believe he will come back in the next few years after the number of bitcoins reaches 20 million  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: royalparade01 on July 01, 2018, 06:59:06 AM
Bitcoin 2 coming ??   :o


If Satoshi is back, does it means bitcoin is on rise again? That's what I supposed to understand it. 😊


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: First77 on July 01, 2018, 07:12:09 AM
If Satoshi is back, does it means bitcoin is on rise again? That's what I supposed to understand it. 😊

Satoshi has come to save Bitcoins. Warren Buffet said "bitcoin will end up badly"


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: nutildah on July 01, 2018, 08:32:05 AM
If Satoshi is back, does it means bitcoin is on rise again? That's what I supposed to understand it. 😊

There's honestly no reason for Satoshi to come back. To do what? In about a year's worth of posting on this forum, he set the entire thing in motion and its been doing relatively fine ever since. He created a worldwide revolution -- pretty hard to top that.

Its been hypothesized that if Satoshi ever moved any coins from his original stash, it might create chaos in the markets, maybe taken as a sign that he's lost confidence in bitcoin. So you might not actually want him to come back.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: mjglqw on July 01, 2018, 08:50:58 AM
Bitcoin 2 coming ??   :o  21,000,000 bitcoins is less for world economy which is $50,000,000,000,000/year

Bitcoin 2? Are you stupid? You think bitcoin is some sort of movie/book that has sequels?


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Kakmakr on July 01, 2018, 09:43:52 AM
Why would Satoshi go through all the trouble to hide his identity for years and now release a book that can be traced back to him. A book will have a publisher and the publisher have to pay Satoshi and that will leave a paper trail back to Satoshi. It is not as if Satoshi need the money and even if Satoshi just do this to donate the money to charity, then this will still be traced back to him/her.  ::)

A much better approach would just be to write a email or add a entry on a Blog, with proof of a signed messaged to his/her coins.  ::)


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on July 01, 2018, 01:58:37 PM
Why would Satoshi go through all the trouble to hide his identity for years and now release a book that can be traced back to him. A book will have a publisher and the publisher have to pay Satoshi and that will leave a paper trail back to Satoshi. It is not as if Satoshi need the money and even if Satoshi just do this to donate the money to charity, then this will still be traced back to him/her.  ::)

A much better approach would just be to write a email or add a entry on a Blog, with proof of a signed messaged to his/her coins.  ::)

Indeed. A persons circumstances can change greatly. However, I don't see anything (yet) that we didn't really already know or that isn't ad-lib.

As someone who was here early on (when Satoshi was on this forum) I do occasionally receive requests for historical information ...

Example:

Sent to: BitcoinFX on: August 15, 2017, 08:44:15 PM

"Hello,

I am developing a website dedicated to the history of bitcoin.  I noticed you are an early user of bitcoin, and was wondering if you had any e-mail conversations with Satoshi or other early developers that you would be willing to share?  If requested, I will remove any of your personal information before making anything public.

I am also interested in any IRC bitcoin or bitcoin-dev logs (pre-2011).

Thank you for your time!"


...

Satoshi - If you recall, can you tell me what you told me you wanted to build for Bitcoin, before I also left this forum?   ::)

P.S. Do send me a PM for my protonmail account and yes I ofc have a 2nd 'authenticator' question ready, if you know the first answer.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: kangen riko on July 01, 2018, 02:26:14 PM
This is ridiculous, Satoshi has long since disappeared and made himself anonymous. He covers his identity so bitcoin is not a contention for the government and I think there is no reason for him to claim bitcoin back, let alone for popularity.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nikonova on July 01, 2018, 02:37:46 PM
it cant be true lol he was hiding for a decade now why would he expose himself after 10 years


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: HaddenChapman on July 01, 2018, 03:25:13 PM
Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?
I am no sure if I should believe this or not. Satoshi is undoubtedly the king of Crypto and has introduced it but he has been out of this business since a few years. Lets see if something actually happens. Till then, keep investing in undervalued coins that can give you great returns like PRG, ICX etc.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: HaroldConway on July 01, 2018, 03:40:23 PM
Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?
The question is will Satoshi actually do that? He can but it might be a rumour too. And why are you just focusing on bitcoin? There are altcoins working great and coming up with new exchanges. Look at Lisk, ADA and TAU.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mazdafunsun on July 01, 2018, 03:56:04 PM
Yea.. this seems odd, i dont think he would not want to do such thing and risk his identity to be discovered  for just a book.
If he wanted e would most likely to do in other anonymous way.

Sometimes it is very interesting to think of time when we he was active in this forum and interacted with some people on this forum who are still active.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: dumiya on July 01, 2018, 04:49:28 PM
I don't think Satoshi wrote this. If he wanted to do so he could do it earlier.
Probaly someone wants to show that he is Satoshi and promote another altcoin as he can get free marketing by pretending as Satoshi. I will not trust any book which is claimed author as Satoshi until I see a signed message from the bitcoin genesis address with it.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: edjames on July 01, 2018, 09:47:39 PM
It will be interesting to see if anything comes of this, and if it does transpire and a (genuine) book is published, I think it will be a great time for crypto and BTC especially


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: galinskiydmitriy on July 01, 2018, 10:32:02 PM
I think this news people want to confuse and artificially create an agiotage around this crypto currency. There is no evidence that it really was Satoshi not provided.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: yianni on July 01, 2018, 11:07:59 PM
If he was really back the easiest thing for him would be to post on this very forum that he created and announce his book.
Went through the entire website and read everything there. I have to admit, whoever wrote it did an extensive research even though almost everything is publicly available.
He hint that he might give proof of the genesis block from the initial version of bitcoin. Not proof of the original genesis block from the bitcoin blockchain but it is proof that it is him, if there is a way to verify that to begin with.
Personally I'm very skeptic about it, but it would be nice to have the original dev back sorting out all the issues with miners/devs, blocksize, Gavin, BCH etc etc.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: SUDARMONO on July 01, 2018, 11:53:16 PM
Satoshi nakamoto is a pseudonym used by the creator or creator of bitcoin, and indeed no one has been able to figure out who actually satoshi nakamoto himself, and he rarely appears and appears only occasionally in writing.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: gesdan on July 01, 2018, 11:59:43 PM
so Satoshi Nakamoto is the name of a person? for this time i heard about Satoshi Nakamoto there are many rumors about it, some people said that Satoshi Nakamoto is the name of 5 company in Japan, from this news i believe that Satoshi Nakamoto is the name of person


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Mahirap on July 02, 2018, 12:06:56 AM
Its possibles that Bitcoin can still be revived by Satoshi itself! Sooner or later there will be a new Bitcoin or a sequel of it. Will wait for the Big update!


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nutildah on July 02, 2018, 01:33:32 AM
today, this was added to that website.

http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org/Nakamoto_Foundation.txt

i don't know what to think, it looks like a hoax

but at least is not craig because he stated in the first pdf that he was on the east coast

Hey thanks for posting this. You're the first poster to post something useful here, and its what I asked for, so I'm giving you a Merit.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: pooya87 on July 02, 2018, 02:18:25 AM
this seems to me more like an advertisement to hype up the book that is coming. it doesn't seem to be released yet so we don't know what is going to be in it! publicly available information most probably with some imaginary added stuff. either sold to earn money or to push some agenda.
i know i am judging the book by the cover! but so far it has been like this so it is my assumption until proven otherwise.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: tailor.and on July 02, 2018, 07:52:52 AM
I think his coming back will play an amazing impact to bitcoin. I'm very excited to know what will happen in future about it.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: JerryJam on July 02, 2018, 08:15:42 AM
The crypto-currency society reacted violently to the news that Satoshi Nakamoto returned and even wrote a book. To me personally it is a little hard to believe. Why the man (if man) hiding his identity for many years now suddenly decided to appear in public. Something's wrong.Probably someone hiding behind a popular name trying to promote their ideas. There is no guarantee that these ideas will be adequate.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Lamisa asfiya on July 02, 2018, 04:13:55 PM
If satoshi nakamoto is come back. I think for this reason  the price will be affect. We all hope that it will happen and we do not when it happen. if its true and  it would be great and the whales will come back to btc and it will pump.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: kasurnya on July 02, 2018, 04:23:58 PM
I do not think Satoshi will have time to write a book, he will still work there to progress bitcoin though without acknowledgment. However I think this is a good idea from the author of the book to get a lot of fans, because it has acknowledged itself as satoshi.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: the_crypto01 on July 02, 2018, 06:48:34 PM
Thank you for the link. It seems that they are is going to be a new birth of BTC. I feel very curious about this. I am waiting to see whats going to happen.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: hasemase on July 02, 2018, 06:51:10 PM
Thank you for the link. It seems that they are is going to be a new birth of BTC. I feel very curious about this. I am waiting to see whats going to happen.

Why do you think there will be a rebirth? The book will tell stories about bitcoin and its creator. Bitcoin will still be Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: billknight on July 02, 2018, 06:52:17 PM
I am also curious about the website they are referring to, but they didn't say it where. Will if Satoshi Nakamoto back will bring the impact of rising Bitcoin?
I do not think Satoshi will don't come back. Because everyone does not know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. So there are probably some people who claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto, and they are Satoshi Nakamoto fake


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: currencydesigner123 on July 02, 2018, 07:14:03 PM
Yes, I also have seen the news. I think that something new is coming in the market. And it would be benevolent for the whole crypro industry.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: PhantasmRisk on July 03, 2018, 02:06:17 AM
There is not legit or authentic source to validate such information. But if that does happen, it will be good for the investors. Given that the market is in a dip and an increase in the level of investments would be a very needed activity to bring the market to an upward slope.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nikiknowsnothing on July 03, 2018, 02:21:55 AM
Sounds like a good news. I sometimes think that what if Satoshi is dead and someone is just impersonating him, lol. I love Satoshi Nakamoto because of his/her mysterious nature. I would love to read a book of him.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on July 03, 2018, 02:31:56 AM
Why would Satoshi go through all the trouble to hide his identity for years and now release a book that can be traced back to him. A book will have a publisher and the publisher have to pay Satoshi and that will leave a paper trail back to Satoshi. It is not as if Satoshi need the money and even if Satoshi just do this to donate the money to charity, then this will still be traced back to him/her.  ::)
A much better approach would just be to write a email or add a entry on a Blog, with proof of a signed messaged to his/her coins.  ::)
Indeed. A persons circumstances can change greatly. However, I don't see anything (yet) that we didn't really already know or that isn't ad-lib.
As someone who was here early on (when Satoshi was on this forum) I do occasionally receive requests for historical information ...
Example:
Sent to: BitcoinFX on: August 15, 2017, 08:44:15 PM
"Hello,
I am developing a website dedicated to the history of bitcoin.  I noticed you are an early user of bitcoin, and was wondering if you had any e-mail conversations with Satoshi or other early developers that you would be willing to share?  If requested, I will remove any of your personal information before making anything public.
I am also interested in any IRC bitcoin or bitcoin-dev logs (pre-2011).
Thank you for your time!"

...

Satoshi - If you recall, can you tell me what you told me you wanted to build for Bitcoin, before I also left this forum?  ::)

P.S. Do send me a PM for my protonmail account and yes I ofc have a 2nd 'authenticator' question ready, if you know the first answer.

Bitcoin Bank   ;D


hacker monks to save bitcoin from itself
Amir Taaki
Now he's back, with radical plans for bitcoin and the states of Western Europe
seems like nearly everyone forgot what bitcoin was about





Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nguyenthu415141@gmail.com on July 03, 2018, 02:35:42 AM
In the world there is a lot of information about the appearance of Satoshi. No one knows whether he is alive or dead. Or just impersonation


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: anhmai4155948@gmail.com on July 03, 2018, 02:39:47 AM
Is this a false information or an impostor to increase the price of Bitcoin to redeem. I quite doubt about this


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: raidarksword on July 03, 2018, 02:41:03 AM
I am also curious about the website they are referring to, but they didn't say it where. Will if Satoshi Nakamoto back will bring the impact of rising Bitcoin?

Yes, it will bring great impact on bitcoin if it's true that Mr. Satoshi is coming back but let's not bring our hopes up on this article because we don't want to be hyped all over this news and might spread a FUDs.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Searing on July 03, 2018, 02:42:09 AM
I am also curious about the website they are referring to, but they didn't say it where. Will if Satoshi Nakamoto back will bring the impact of rising Bitcoin?

Yes, it will bring great impact on bitcoin if it's true that Mr. Satoshi is coming back but let's not bring our hopes up on this article because we don't want to be hyped all over this news and might spread a FUDs.

Now, if Satoshi did come out to be Craig Wright we are all frigging doomed, he hates all BTC types for not believing him to be Satoshi. Could you imagine how much

hell, he could cause with crypto, if he was Satoshi and as he claims have access to a Bitcoin Trust on Jan 1st, 2020, again as he claims? He could trash BTC down

to $500 bucks for the hell of it and laugh it all burned....and still be a Billionaire in USD in BTC!

shudder...scared self :(

brad



Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? It's not this one, is it?

The article also claims that the writing style is 'completely different' than examples in the past from Satoshi. Unless he has help from

another author or some such...it is unlikely to be true.


However, if true, there would be 'quite' the hunt for Satoshi. For example, if from the USA, I suppose a case could be made on 'taxes'? (unclear on that)

and/or other issues...would be cool if he 'could' (very unlikely) make a book and explain BTC beginnings, without giving his ID away....would drive the

powers that be frigging 'nuts' heh (hey a guy can dream ya know on the turmoil this would cause!) :)

brad


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on July 03, 2018, 02:57:18 AM
Why would Satoshi go through all the trouble to hide his identity for years and now release a book that can be traced back to him. A book will have a publisher and the publisher have to pay Satoshi and that will leave a paper trail back to Satoshi. It is not as if Satoshi need the money and even if Satoshi just do this to donate the money to charity, then this will still be traced back to him/her.  ::)
A much better approach would just be to write a email or add a entry on a Blog, with proof of a signed messaged to his/her coins.  ::)
Indeed. A persons circumstances can change greatly. However, I don't see anything (yet) that we didn't really already know or that isn't ad-lib.
As someone who was here early on (when Satoshi was on this forum) I do occasionally receive requests for historical information ...
Example:
Sent to: BitcoinFX on: August 15, 2017, 08:44:15 PM
"Hello,
I am developing a website dedicated to the history of bitcoin.  I noticed you are an early user of bitcoin, and was wondering if you had any e-mail conversations with Satoshi or other early developers that you would be willing to share?  If requested, I will remove any of your personal information before making anything public.
I am also interested in any IRC bitcoin or bitcoin-dev logs (pre-2011).
Thank you for your time!"

...

Satoshi - If you recall, can you tell me what you told me you wanted to build for Bitcoin, before I also left this forum?  ::)

P.S. Do send me a PM for my protonmail account and yes I ofc have a 2nd 'authenticator' question ready, if you know the first answer.

Bitcoin Bank   ;D

hacker monks to save bitcoin from itself
Amir Taaki
Now he's back, with radical plans for bitcoin and the states of Western Europe
seems like nearly everyone forgot what bitcoin was about


Can we use the Bank?



Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nguyenthu415141@gmail.com on July 03, 2018, 03:01:09 AM
satoshi is a miner. He dug over 1 million Bitcoins. What I wondered was what he came up with and what he did with the Bitcoin he was holding


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: lolehiM92 on July 03, 2018, 03:08:55 AM
What if Satoshi came back, if he could, but the step we can see I think the market will be better and the human belief in the bitcoin market will grow than  bitooin  happening today


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on July 03, 2018, 08:57:50 AM
Why would Satoshi go through all the trouble to hide his identity for years and now release a book that can be traced back to him. A book will have a publisher and the publisher have to pay Satoshi and that will leave a paper trail back to Satoshi. It is not as if Satoshi need the money and even if Satoshi just do this to donate the money to charity, then this will still be traced back to him/her.  ::)
A much better approach would just be to write a email or add a entry on a Blog, with proof of a signed messaged to his/her coins.  ::)
Indeed. A persons circumstances can change greatly. However, I don't see anything (yet) that we didn't really already know or that isn't ad-lib.
As someone who was here early on (when Satoshi was on this forum) I do occasionally receive requests for historical information ...
Example:
Sent to: BitcoinFX on: August 15, 2017, 08:44:15 PM
"Hello,
I am developing a website dedicated to the history of bitcoin.  I noticed you are an early user of bitcoin, and was wondering if you had any e-mail conversations with Satoshi or other early developers that you would be willing to share?  If requested, I will remove any of your personal information before making anything public.
I am also interested in any IRC bitcoin or bitcoin-dev logs (pre-2011).
Thank you for your time!"

...

Satoshi - If you recall, can you tell me what you told me you wanted to build for Bitcoin, before I also left this forum?  ::)

P.S. Do send me a PM for my protonmail account and yes I ofc have a 2nd 'authenticator' question ready, if you know the first answer.

Bitcoin Bank   ;D


hacker monks to save bitcoin from itself
Amir Taaki
Now he's back, with radical plans for bitcoin and the states of Western Europe
seems like nearly everyone forgot what bitcoin was about


I will neither confirm nor deny if that is the correct answer. The question is intentionally cryptic and one that only the real Satoshi might answer to me forthright.

However, why would Satoshi want to build a Bitcoin Bank - when Bitcoin itself is essentially a fully decentralized banking system.

...

I discovered bitcoin.org (and this forum) through a very random and extensive search for 'currency' and 'digital cash'. In this regard I was not a developer or someone that Satoshi attracted to the project through the cypherpunks mailing list etc., Thus my private / encrypted text conversations with Satoshi were equally random. They have never been shared anywhere and no logs exist at my end.

I could read and write (bad) code at that time, having participated in various TH poker robots, MT4 forex software and by just simply being a Linux user. I knew the software 'worked'. I ran two full Bitcoin nodes from my home in the UK and mined 24/7 - I was excited and enthused with the bitcoin project to begin with and proceeded with extensive TE advertising under my own volition.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=45.msg559#msg559
If anyone saw that TE banner on the internet and found Bitcoin, it was probably promoted by myself.  8)

I recognized that the project might draw a critical mass through widespread adoption and I was of course 'invested' through the mining process. On this basis I calculated the number of users (nodes etc.,) and gave it some time. The level of adoption simply took much longer than I expected - probably due to the unique nature of the project. Unfortunately, I decided to sell my mined coins and to move onto other (supposedly more profitable) projects, at that time. I had some investors who did not fully understand what this project could become and I was pushed in other directions. :'( Some personal circumstances also meant that I no longer had the time to tinker with this hobby / start-up.

I think I will post a screen shot of my old 'transfer' wallet so that people can understand just how invested I was at that time.

I did envisage a problem with circulation being very likely to out-strip supply and demand, thus potentially leaving the price in the doldrums, forever. I was also concerned that the government or relevant authorities would eventually try to shut it down (realize that this task would of been much much easier back then). I also considered issues with regards to scalability and to the finite supply - which I still do, "you cannot trade in diminishing intangibility", this does still become an issue when all bitcoin is mined (note that this effect will only be seen outside of our lifetimes, if at all).

One might consider myself as a segregated witness of bitcoin inception.

- https://youtu.be/RXMnDG3QzxE   :D

...

EDIT: Unquestionably, for the community, the only real definitive proof of Satoshi is a signed and verifiable message and/or key.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: MattLeBlanc on July 03, 2018, 09:05:44 AM
First of all, everyone check out the link in the signature of OP, Secondly, why will Satoshi come out of the heaven he is living in with all his bitcoins.? He may have everything he needs already.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Slavyanskiy on July 03, 2018, 09:12:26 AM
It would be nice if Satoshi Nakamoto returned. He could have made many positive changes in bitcoin and the community would support to him.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Al-e_x on July 03, 2018, 09:18:04 AM
I know that satoshi only wrote a paper with the title "a peer to peer electronic cash system"

and its contents explain how the blockchain system works. and I did not find any other information that satoshi created the perfect guidebook about bitcoin.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on July 03, 2018, 11:57:34 AM
Why would Satoshi go through all the trouble to hide his identity for years and now release a book that can be traced back to him. A book will have a publisher and the publisher have to pay Satoshi and that will leave a paper trail back to Satoshi. It is not as if Satoshi need the money and even if Satoshi just do this to donate the money to charity, then this will still be traced back to him/her.  ::)
A much better approach would just be to write a email or add a entry on a Blog, with proof of a signed messaged to his/her coins.  ::)
Indeed. A persons circumstances can change greatly. However, I don't see anything (yet) that we didn't really already know or that isn't ad-lib.
As someone who was here early on (when Satoshi was on this forum) I do occasionally receive requests for historical information ...
Example:
Sent to: BitcoinFX on: August 15, 2017, 08:44:15 PM
"Hello,
I am developing a website dedicated to the history of bitcoin.  I noticed you are an early user of bitcoin, and was wondering if you had any e-mail conversations with Satoshi or other early developers that you would be willing to share?  If requested, I will remove any of your personal information before making anything public.
I am also interested in any IRC bitcoin or bitcoin-dev logs (pre-2011).
Thank you for your time!"

...

Satoshi - If you recall, can you tell me what you told me you wanted to build for Bitcoin, before I also left this forum?  ::)

P.S. Do send me a PM for my protonmail account and yes I ofc have a 2nd 'authenticator' question ready, if you know the first answer.

Bitcoin Bank   ;D


hacker monks to save bitcoin from itself
Amir Taaki
Now he's back, with radical plans for bitcoin and the states of Western Europe
seems like nearly everyone forgot what bitcoin was about


I will neither confirm nor deny if that is the correct answer. The question is intentionally cryptic and one that only the real Satoshi might answer to me forthright.

However, why would Satoshi want to build a Bitcoin Bank - when Bitcoin itself is essentially a fully decentralized banking system.

...

I discovered bitcoin.org (and this forum) through a very random and extensive search for 'currency' and 'digital cash'. In this regard I was not a developer or someone that Satoshi attracted to the project through the cypherpunks mailing list etc., Thus my private / encrypted text conversations with Satoshi were equally random. They have never been shared anywhere and no logs exist at my end.

I could read and write (bad) code at that time, having participated in various TH poker robots, MT4 forex software and by just simply being a Linux user. I knew the software 'worked'. I ran two full Bitcoin nodes from my home in the UK and mined 24/7 - I was excited and enthused with the bitcoin project to begin with and proceeded with extensive TE advertising under my own volition.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=45.msg559#msg559
If anyone saw that TE banner on the internet and found Bitcoin, it was probably promoted by myself.  8)

I recognized that the project might draw a critical mass through widespread adoption and I was of course 'invested' through the mining process. On this basis I calculated the number of users (nodes etc.,) and gave it some time. The level of adoption simply took much longer than I expected - probably due to the unique nature of the project. Unfortunately, I decided to sell my mined coins and to move onto other (supposedly more profitable) projects, at that time. I had some investors who did not fully understand what this project could become and I was pushed in other directions. :'( Some personal circumstances also meant that I no longer had the time to tinker with this hobby / start-up.

I think I will post a screen shot of my old 'transfer' wallet so that people can understand just how invested I was at that time.

I did envisage a problem with circulation being very likely to out-strip supply and demand, thus potentially leaving the price in the doldrums, forever. I was also concerned that the government or relevant authorities would eventually try to shut it down (realize that this task would of been much much easier back then). I also considered issues with regards to scalability and to the finite supply - which I still do, "you cannot trade in diminishing intangibility", this does still become an issue when all bitcoin is mined (note that this effect will only be seen outside of our lifetimes, if at all).

One might consider myself as a segregated witness of bitcoin inception.

- https://youtu.be/RXMnDG3QzxE   :D

...

EDIT: Unquestionably, for the community, the only real definitive proof of Satoshi is a signed and verifiable message and/or key.

..."I was also concerned that the government or relevant authorities would eventually try to shut it down"...

Going through past posts it is obvious to me the forum was full of Agents
With wikileaks and Bruce Wagner basically telling everyone satoshi did it, I am not surprised he ran

CIA/NSA/FBI cronies still in the forums

Attacks still continue, from the early ddos to fake altcoin markets, big block debates


What projects I learnt that were not finished and very important was the BitDNS and fast payments

1) Satoshsi said himself bitcoin will end up being a reserve currency for large payments
2) BitDNS project satohsi worked on with??? was looking at fast payments


However, why would Satoshi want to build a Bitcoin Bank - when Bitcoin itself is essentially a fully decentralized banking system.
I do not need confirmation on any projects and apologies for bringing them up

One reason for a bitcoin bank though. If you could criminalize the Central banking system and its owners - what would you replace it with


What is interesting is a lot of old players want the bitcoin used as intended

Competition to the Central Banking system


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: hirngespenst on July 03, 2018, 12:08:02 PM
But still, I can't believe this news. Fortune is a very good potential website but still, Satoshi Nakamoto writing a book? No way! We have seen many fake persons claimed already as Satoshi Nakamoto, There has a rumor too that Nakamoto dead already. So, overall I don't think this news is real. But if Satoshi Nakamoto still alive then I want to see him active again.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Falmera on July 03, 2018, 12:11:13 PM
Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?
Likewise here. I am also curious of who is or are behind the name Satoshi Nakamoto. Is it really a pseudonym or his name really. I also do some researching about this.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: bubblebubble on July 03, 2018, 12:14:49 PM
I think this is a brillant commercial idea and nothing more.
In any case I'm curious about the book and I'd like to read it :)


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: juliehunt07 on July 03, 2018, 12:20:27 PM
That's a thrilling news for the Bitcoin community. Satoshi Nakamoto has discovered Bitcoin and has remained anonymous about it. If this news is really true, it is going to make a significant change in the market.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on July 03, 2018, 12:47:11 PM
I think this is a brillant commercial idea and nothing more.
In any case I'm curious about the book and I'd like to read it :)

here you can read what satoshi worked on with bitcoin

All satoshi posts from the forum

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3;sa=showPosts



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3
Profile


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: yianni on July 03, 2018, 12:58:42 PM
Why would Satoshi go through all the trouble to hide his identity for years and now release a book that can be traced back to him. A book will have a publisher and the publisher have to pay Satoshi and that will leave a paper trail back to Satoshi. It is not as if Satoshi need the money and even if Satoshi just do this to donate the money to charity, then this will still be traced back to him/her.  ::)
A much better approach would just be to write a email or add a entry on a Blog, with proof of a signed messaged to his/her coins.  ::)
Indeed. A persons circumstances can change greatly. However, I don't see anything (yet) that we didn't really already know or that isn't ad-lib.
As someone who was here early on (when Satoshi was on this forum) I do occasionally receive requests for historical information ...
Example:
Sent to: BitcoinFX on: August 15, 2017, 08:44:15 PM
"Hello,
I am developing a website dedicated to the history of bitcoin.  I noticed you are an early user of bitcoin, and was wondering if you had any e-mail conversations with Satoshi or other early developers that you would be willing to share?  If requested, I will remove any of your personal information before making anything public.
I am also interested in any IRC bitcoin or bitcoin-dev logs (pre-2011).
Thank you for your time!"

...

Satoshi - If you recall, can you tell me what you told me you wanted to build for Bitcoin, before I also left this forum?  ::)

P.S. Do send me a PM for my protonmail account and yes I ofc have a 2nd 'authenticator' question ready, if you know the first answer.

Bitcoin Bank   ;D


hacker monks to save bitcoin from itself
Amir Taaki
Now he's back, with radical plans for bitcoin and the states of Western Europe
seems like nearly everyone forgot what bitcoin was about


I will neither confirm nor deny if that is the correct answer. The question is intentionally cryptic and one that only the real Satoshi might answer to me forthright.

However, why would Satoshi want to build a Bitcoin Bank - when Bitcoin itself is essentially a fully decentralized banking system.

...

I discovered bitcoin.org (and this forum) through a very random and extensive search for 'currency' and 'digital cash'. In this regard I was not a developer or someone that Satoshi attracted to the project through the cypherpunks mailing list etc., Thus my private / encrypted text conversations with Satoshi were equally random. They have never been shared anywhere and no logs exist at my end.

I could read and write (bad) code at that time, having participated in various TH poker robots, MT4 forex software and by just simply being a Linux user. I knew the software 'worked'. I ran two full Bitcoin nodes from my home in the UK and mined 24/7 - I was excited and enthused with the bitcoin project to begin with and proceeded with extensive TE advertising under my own volition.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=45.msg559#msg559
If anyone saw that TE banner on the internet and found Bitcoin, it was probably promoted by myself.  8)

I recognized that the project might draw a critical mass through widespread adoption and I was of course 'invested' through the mining process. On this basis I calculated the number of users (nodes etc.,) and gave it some time. The level of adoption simply took much longer than I expected - probably due to the unique nature of the project. Unfortunately, I decided to sell my mined coins and to move onto other (supposedly more profitable) projects, at that time. I had some investors who did not fully understand what this project could become and I was pushed in other directions. :'( Some personal circumstances also meant that I no longer had the time to tinker with this hobby / start-up.

I think I will post a screen shot of my old 'transfer' wallet so that people can understand just how invested I was at that time.

I did envisage a problem with circulation being very likely to out-strip supply and demand, thus potentially leaving the price in the doldrums, forever. I was also concerned that the government or relevant authorities would eventually try to shut it down (realize that this task would of been much much easier back then). I also considered issues with regards to scalability and to the finite supply - which I still do, "you cannot trade in diminishing intangibility", this does still become an issue when all bitcoin is mined (note that this effect will only be seen outside of our lifetimes, if at all).

One might consider myself as a segregated witness of bitcoin inception.

- https://youtu.be/RXMnDG3QzxE   :D

...

EDIT: Unquestionably, for the community, the only real definitive proof of Satoshi is a signed and verifiable message and/or key.

..."I was also concerned that the government or relevant authorities would eventually try to shut it down"...

Going through past posts it is obvious to me the forum was full of Agents
With wikileaks and Bruce Wagner basically telling everyone satoshi did it, I am not surprised he ran

CIA/NSA/FBI cronies still in the forums

Attacks still continue, from the early ddos to fake altcoin markets, big block debates


What projects I learnt that were not finished and very important was the BitDNS and fast payments

1) Satoshsi said himself bitcoin will end up being a reserve currency for large payments
2) BitDNS project satohsi worked on with??? was looking at fast payments


However, why would Satoshi want to build a Bitcoin Bank - when Bitcoin itself is essentially a fully decentralized banking system.
I do not need confirmation on any projects and apologies for bringing them up

One reason for a bitcoin bank though. If you could criminalize the Central banking system and its owners - what would you replace it with


What is interesting is a lot of old players want the bitcoin used as intended

Competition to the Central Banking system


Central banking system but not to criminalize traditional system and owners but to enforce some sort of automated regulation rules enforced on the bitcoin ecosystem.
I can't think for the life of me how something like that could be implemented but it would be an interesting concept.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: glowing10 on July 03, 2018, 01:02:28 PM
I think this is a brillant commercial idea and nothing more.
In any case I'm curious about the book and I'd like to read it :)

Yeah it is nothing more than a commercial publicity in order to sell the book but before that create a hype in the market and people get excited about it and start buying the books. Thus this will help the publisher and writer to earn big money from this advertisement trick.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Fourgh on July 03, 2018, 01:14:32 PM
Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?

wow. That's very interesting news. No one really knows who Satoshi really is. Maybe that book can explain some of our questions about how altcoins can be a potential Bitcoin alternative.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: samiraetn on July 03, 2018, 01:18:43 PM
Recently a news portal has claimed that the founder of crypto currency bitcoin is revealing his/her/their identity to the public. This has increased excitement among the people as a lot of unanswered question will be answered. But this new is not confirmed fully, it might be just a rumor created by someone.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nmax21 on July 03, 2018, 01:45:38 PM
Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?


No one can prove that this is the same Satoshi Nakamoto, so there is no point in believing the sales media.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: tsaroz on July 03, 2018, 01:54:11 PM
Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?


No one can prove that this is the same Satoshi Nakamoto, so there is no point in believing the sales media.

Apparently it's someone faking it/themself as nakamoto and trying to publish a book.
Many experts have pointed out the writer of that announcement can't be the real satoshi be it's his writing style or the spelling mistakes.
It doesn't even have a signed message from his address which he used to use as a proof for the later posts.

https://news.bitcoin.com/satoshi-or-faketoshi-analysts-assess-cryptos-latest-messiah/


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: greenvally on July 03, 2018, 07:26:38 PM
From my perspective i thin Satoshi wants to launch another bitcoin. Because existing bitcoins performance is too good. Thats why he may influence to do this. This new coins name will be bitcoin2.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: yianni on July 03, 2018, 11:40:33 PM
From my perspective i thin Satoshi wants to launch another bitcoin. Because existing bitcoins performance is too good. Thats why he may influence to do this. This new coins name will be bitcoin2.

Why would he need to do something like that and destroy the value of the original bitcoin?
It can't be financial incentive since he already holds close to a million bitcoins.
And this time he won't be mining alone.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: yianni on July 03, 2018, 11:43:52 PM
Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?


No one can prove that this is the same Satoshi Nakamoto, so there is no point in believing the sales media.

Apparently it's someone faking it/themself as nakamoto and trying to publish a book.
Many experts have pointed out the writer of that announcement can't be the real satoshi be it's his writing style or the spelling mistakes.
It doesn't even have a signed message from his address which he used to use as a proof for the later posts.

https://news.bitcoin.com/satoshi-or-faketoshi-analysts-assess-cryptos-latest-messiah/

Or even easier he could just post on this forum that he created using his own account. That would be proof enough. Or even simply just log in.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: franky1 on July 04, 2018, 04:35:55 AM
just reading the first paragraph .. i laughed

"I embedded in the coinbase of the first genesis block. "

1. i embedded it into the coinbase
2. of the genesis block

firstly the grammatical error
secondly the real satoshi knows there is only one genesis block.

thus the writer has no skill in writing, nor in undrstanding the invention known as bitcoin


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: honghue28739489837@gmail. on July 04, 2018, 04:42:43 AM
I am quite skeptical about this information. I know it comes mainly from newspapers and moreover there is no concrete evidence of it.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Herbert2020 on July 04, 2018, 04:58:41 AM
I think this is a brillant commercial idea and nothing more.
In any case I'm curious about the book and I'd like to read it :)

it depends on how it is going to be used.
last time someone came out and claimed to be Satoshi we found out that he planned on scamming people. i am talking about Craig who is the biggest scammer so far. they always do this, they use the publicity they gain to make money from.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: iotarocket on July 04, 2018, 05:39:15 AM
I seriously doubt the story of Satoshi Nakamoto resurfacing is legitimate. I think if Satoshi wanted to go public, he would have done so a long time ago. It's obvious he wants to preserve his privacy and we should respect that.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: harrypot on July 04, 2018, 11:10:42 AM
This man is so mysterious and the news about him is mysterious too. IFrom which website they got this crypted message? No authentic source for this .But iIf he is actually writing something I am eager to go through it.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: yianni on July 04, 2018, 02:28:20 PM
just reading the first paragraph .. i laughed

"I embedded in the coinbase of the first genesis block. "

1. i embedded it into the coinbase
2. of the genesis block

firstly the grammatical error
secondly the real satoshi knows there is only one genesis block.

thus the writer has no skill in writing, nor in undrstanding the invention known as bitcoin

Actually he claims that there are 2 genesis block. One from the testing initial version of bitcoin and one from the current bitcoin.
Is that valid if you know?


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on July 05, 2018, 06:05:25 AM
just reading the first paragraph .. i laughed

"I embedded in the coinbase of the first genesis block. "

1. i embedded it into the coinbase
2. of the genesis block

firstly the grammatical error
secondly the real satoshi knows there is only one genesis block.

thus the writer has no skill in writing, nor in undrstanding the invention known as bitcoin

Actually he claims that there are 2 genesis block. One from the testing initial version of bitcoin and one from the current bitcoin.
Is that valid if you know?

Who knows?

Slartibartfast knows?

- The Most Intelligent Beings On Earth - https://youtu.be/y5xcvAoKojo

- Slartibartfast on life - https://youtu.be/cPWnitDyIOw

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slartibartfast

"... right at the beginning he says 'My name is not important, and I'm not going to tell you what it is'..."

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167960.0


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: allgetshigh on July 05, 2018, 06:12:21 AM
It is quite obvious that this book is written by media representatives themselves. Likely Bloomberg's dogs.
But, no one cares who is Satoshi... Even if we find out that this is a cat from a neighboring yard, this will not affect anything. ;D


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: marlonbatotoy on July 05, 2018, 01:23:09 PM
It's hard to trust.. But if it's real i think something gonna happen with the new born bitcoin.. I'm sure there is so much investor will invest on that coin.. But if it's not true and someone pretend to be satoshi well it's another big scam happen..


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: fredo123 on July 05, 2018, 01:33:07 PM
Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?
Could anybody give us the link about the book, I am very excited to read and see the story behind its cover, I'm sure that book would be the best seller in our era, especially to those who are crypto enthusiast, Can't wait to see his write up:)


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: ad_novo on July 06, 2018, 10:39:34 AM
Bitcoin 2 coming ??   :o


If Satoshi is back, does it means bitcoin is on rise again? That's what I supposed to understand it. 😊

Really? I dont think so. As I think that Bitcoin is leading the crypto currencies till now, but the break point has being come closely. The alt coin more and more developed by such tons of great team.  and I believe Satoshi is one of them.

This coming up meaning that coming down, especially for those come from same origin (Japan).

By the way, this is my thought and I am just a newbie in crypto market.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Gufeng on July 06, 2018, 12:55:56 PM
But still, I can't believe this news. Fortune is a very good potential website but still, Satoshi Nakamoto writing a book? No way! We have seen many fake persons claimed already as Satoshi Nakamoto, There has a rumor too that Nakamoto dead already. So, overall I don't think this news is real. But if Satoshi Nakamoto still alive then I want to see him active again.

I agree with you. It is really something that unbelievable for that person have already write a book. But why he officially don't present it?


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on July 06, 2018, 05:32:59 PM
KLF Return After 23 Years !!!!!
- https://youtu.be/O2xgxtr8O5M - GIMPO FTW !!!!!   :D   8)

- https://youtu.be/LXEOESuiYcA?t=2m50s


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Jimmi Andersen on July 06, 2018, 05:59:56 PM
For some reason I tend to the fact that Satoshi Nakamoto is not going to write a book about bitcoin and its technology. It's fiction. And moreover, I will say that someone is trying to make money on it, posing as a famous person. I believe in an anonymous currency, an anonymous Creator. Bitcoin does not belong to one person, it is the property of all.  This is Hype news (fake)


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on July 06, 2018, 09:32:18 PM
For some reason I tend to the fact that Satoshi Nakamoto is not going to write a book about bitcoin and its technology. It's fiction. And moreover, I will say that someone is trying to make money on it, posing as a famous person. I believe in an anonymous currency, an anonymous Creator. Bitcoin does not belong to one person, it is the property of all.  This is Hype news (fake)

..."Satoshi Nakamoto is not going to write a book about bitcoin and its technology"...



Cheers, this made me chuckle if you take it the other way, such as he actually did write a book about bitcoin and its technology

https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf


Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Willitivity on July 06, 2018, 09:45:01 PM
There is no guaranteeing if it is from satoshi nakamoto or not, seems a shady stuff or just a mere hype to promote the new so-called 'Bitcoin 2' and get people to FOMO into it. Another potential scam building up, and people are gonna fall for it and get rekt as usual.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: MobyCrypt on July 06, 2018, 10:28:35 PM
if Satoshi wanted to write a book and stay anonymous he wouldn't do it in a way to raise any suspicions about his identity. he would stay anonymous easily and publish his book(s) and for all we know we already have books written by him and we don't know it yet.

if Satoshi wanted to write a book and reveal his identity he would simply include a signature in the book revealing his identity in a way that is easy to verify by everyone and is undeniable.

when we see someone who is shady and evasive about it and has no proof, it means have another scammer like Craig Wrigt at our hands.

Yep. I could even imagine Bloomberg or some other US based Bankers or whatever training an actor to play the role of Satoshi for real - with the help of the mainstream media they could easily brainwash most of the poplutation, and they they could use Satoshi to manipulate cryptos as they please.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on July 07, 2018, 06:04:16 AM
For some reason I tend to the fact that Satoshi Nakamoto is not going to write a book about bitcoin and its technology. It's fiction. And moreover, I will say that someone is trying to make money on it, posing as a famous person. I believe in an anonymous currency, an anonymous Creator. Bitcoin does not belong to one person, it is the property of all.  This is Hype news (fake)

..."Satoshi Nakamoto is not going to write a book about bitcoin and its technology"...



Cheers, this made me chuckle if you take it the other way, such as he actually did write a book about bitcoin and its technology

https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf


Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System

Indeed.

Literal Culture JAM ...
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_jamming

~ These are some sentiments (or effects) that we might consider the real Satoshi to share, if only by accident (through being anonymous and then disappearing)? No? I mean come on!  :D

EDIT : Here's a good example : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bubble_Project

EDIT 2 : i.e. Steal this book (it's free) = Culture Jamming on auto-pilot. The printing press is already printing.

EDIT 3 : Who is Banksy ? etc.,


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: jeffer8035 on July 07, 2018, 06:19:50 AM
until he writes of his own account is not satoshi nakamoto no doubt he has to be a multimillionaire lover of technology an economist engineer in mathematical systems if he is and publishes a book without a doubt he would buy it and if he aprese he would congratulate him for having created a of the greatest financial technology and a field of work never before thought


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on July 07, 2018, 07:32:18 AM
the population of the universe introduction to BTCitcoin The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
- https://youtu.be/ObwmwnbSw-A   ::)


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on July 08, 2018, 07:08:42 AM
" DPM
DEAD PERCH MENACE

THE BOOK SIGNING RULES of ENGAGEMENT

You are invited to have your copy of 2023 a trilogy
rubber stamped by The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu

When approaching the JAMs
do not try to engage in idle conversation,
ask if they remember you from a rave in Chelmsford in 1989,
remind them of a promise they made to you.
Hugging is not permitted.
Kissing is tolerated but strictly no tongues.
Gifts will be accepted but destroyed in a controlled explosion later.
Traditional hand shaking is permitted but not hipster derivatives.
The JAMs will not write messages or dedicate the books to any name.
Do not attempt to take a selfie with the JAMs or with anyone else ever again.
If any historic memorabilia or relic is produced for autographs
Dead Perch Menace will confiscate that object and destroy it.
Please do not film or photograph the JAMs while they are working.

We hope you enjoy your copy of 2023

If you fail to comply with any of the above or for no reason
Dead Perch Menace may confiscate your book until further notice. "

~ SWIM ;D


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: YarkoL on July 08, 2018, 07:56:52 PM

I must say that I enjoyed the pdf tremendously, and will for sure keep
following the "Family foundation" site.

Whoever the author of this is, he or she has really dug deep in Satoshi's
writings, and does a good job in the portrayal/spoofing.

And ... well, who know, maybe this is the real thing? At least it's a very
fun exercise..


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: Peashooter on July 08, 2018, 08:12:39 PM
Bitcoin 2 coming ??   :o


If Satoshi is back, does it means bitcoin is on rise again? That's what I supposed to understand it. 😊
I don't think so it's so hard to say if will rise or not. All we need is to wait and don't lose hope and be optimistic and positive about the price value of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: jennygamilo on July 08, 2018, 09:19:52 PM
Some people says bitcoin is falling some of them says bitcoin is dead, but now there is a new topic that satoshi will back ? I think if that thing will happen then a new generation of bitcoin will born because he is the only one know how to mafe how to handle and manage it because he is the creator of it .


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on July 09, 2018, 02:20:03 PM
Re: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4575874.msg41411073#msg41411073

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for blockchain research etc., ...
Note that signing a verifiable message from an early block or the genesis block is exactly what the real Satoshi should be able to do. I, for example could sign a verifiable message from any block from my old wallet.dat - main thread here:
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4630066.0

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for forum account recovery etc.,

1JXFXUBGs2ZtEDAQMdZ3tkCKo38nT2XSEp

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am not Satoshi Nakamoto. Are you?
42/ is the answer.
Be seeing you at The Restaurant at the End of the Universe?
0.00000000 - BitcoinFX - bitcointalk.org - July 9th, 2018
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1JXFXUBGs2ZtEDAQMdZ3tkCKo38nT2XSEp
HMoTNpmqieWmcIvF/aMTCZlLqAuYnrWuQJk45S0pXK4pFOAB/j2WBTkA5KEGSpJQTclPL3ehaTSdPpV9Ivq+lC0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=1JXFXUBGs2ZtEDAQMdZ3tkCKo38nT2XSEp&vrMsg=I%20am%20not%20Satoshi%20Nakamoto.%20Are%20you%3F%0A42%2F%20is%20the%20answer.%0ABe%20seeing%20you%20at%20The%20Restaurant%20at%20the%20End%20of%20the%20Universe%3F%0A0.00000000%20-%20BitcoinFX%20-%20bitcointalk.org%20-%20July%209th%2C%202018&vrSig=HMoTNpmqieWmcIvF%2FaMTCZlLqAuYnrWuQJk45S0pXK4pFOAB%2Fj2WBTkA5KEGSpJQTclPL3ehaTSdPpV9Ivq%2BlC0%3D (https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=1JXFXUBGs2ZtEDAQMdZ3tkCKo38nT2XSEp&vrMsg=I%20am%20not%20Satoshi%20Nakamoto.%20Are%20you%3F%0A42%2F%20is%20the%20answer.%0ABe%20seeing%20you%20at%20The%20Restaurant%20at%20the%20End%20of%20the%20Universe%3F%0A0.00000000%20-%20BitcoinFX%20-%20bitcointalk.org%20-%20July%209th%2C%202018&vrSig=HMoTNpmqieWmcIvF%2FaMTCZlLqAuYnrWuQJk45S0pXK4pFOAB%2Fj2WBTkA5KEGSpJQTclPL3ehaTSdPpV9Ivq%2BlC0%3D)


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: YarkoL on July 09, 2018, 02:51:41 PM

today, this was added to that website.

http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org/Nakamoto_Foundation.txt

Has been removed since, here is the text, retrieved from google

Quote

I would like to clear the air on the foundations purpose. And that is the lack of transparency.
So I will be forthright, this website was set up for the purpose of the foundation, which will be
explained later in detail, but I want to stress that it will not be a foundation that receives
any "donations" as is typical of a charitable foundation. I want to make that very clear.
Rather, it is a private foundation, with the funding coming directly from one source, myself.

I also would like to mention that the website was registered anonymously, and through a proxy.
Yes there are other ways to do it with traditional providers. The security to both the email
and domain are tight enough to negate the need or use of PGP. The old key was never actually
used to sign any release of the old software or old emails as coming from me.

I see no obligation in needing it.

I would stress that the cryptographic experts of which I count to be less than ten in the world,
one of you had the advantage of sitting down with me and even brought with you some of my old writings.
You also wrote a story and introduction. I would advise you to keep discretion. But some of your
colleagues seem to be misinformed and perhaps there should be some clarification in private.

You know who you are.

It will be very embarassing to those experts that come from academia to risk their reputation simply
on word.

Although this is a self published effort (in other words, no help whatsoever), I did not want
to betray myself in going any other route. Which is why the paper does not read as professionally
as those store shelf books you have read. The excerpts are completely my own voice, with no editors.
I do not feel the need to put on a show. It is what it is.

This is the basis for why the pdf is in word format and not latex, as this is a story, first and foremost,
and not an academic paper. Although both speak to the same subject matter, both have very different goals.

My only focus at this time is to work on the book which is strictly about my life and has nothing
to do with a small fraction of time that I have since moved on from. That is what the excerpts, which
have been made publicly available are for. Those of who you who enjoyed the excerpt, I am grateful.
Which is why I had considered writing a second excerpt to close that final chapter of my life.

I should state that most of the conversations are already out in the public domain, save for the aspects
that I covered, details of which only I am aware of. This is the basis for which I felt the freedom to talk
about them is because they were already in the public domain, but I cannot stress the fact that there are
countless conversations that have not been made public. I am not in a position to share what are to be
considered private conversations, unless those mentioned choose to make them public.

But I do want to state that I have no objection to any conversation I had being made public. Out of respect I
only discussed that of which is already in the public domain, as I understand that many do not want their
names to be mentioned, for privacy and safety reasons. And that is something I can understand fully,
is the respect for privacy.

I didn't have to do this, I could have just as easily released the book, but I felt the need to explain
the thought process that went behind my writings. And also reveal truths that were unknown.
No one knows the history of what came before better than us. And by us, I do mean us.
Those of us that were involved. Contrary to what is being egregiously written, this was not
a one man effort. I thought I had made that very clear in the excerpt,
but I will state it here officially then.

I wasn't the only one. And the trail marks I left behind in oversight, make that very clear.
As the saying goes, the code will speak for itself. I don't want to put it out there just now. I want to see
who will come forth to challenge that. If any expert wants to challenge that, then I hope you're willing
to put your name and reputation on that too when the book comes out.

The very short beginning to the second excerpt is here: http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org/predraft.pdf


I am not writing this in response to what is being publicly written, neither positively nor negatively,
but rather as a response to the intentions of the foundation, and to clear the air on the purpose of
the foundation, which will explained later and which will migrate to a shorter domain in the near future.

This is all I will publicly state until the eventual release of the book.

The "predraft" pdf

Quote
This is the HTML version of the file http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org/predraft.pdf. Google automatically generates HTML versions of documents as we crawl the web.
Tip: To quickly find your search term on this page, press Ctrl+F or ⌘-F (Mac) and use the find bar.
Page 1
Title of Chapter omitted
...If you've noticed by now, I have only mentioned the genesis once. In the beginning of the first excerpt.
And if you recall, I highlighted the word first. That is because it was not the first. Rather, there was
another genesis. From the first version.
A pregenesis of sorts, if you will.
You can imagine the anxiety in what would be the moment I had been waiting for, to see it working, like
the switch to a lift off, or starting up a Hachiroku, and the roar coming on for the first time.
And there it was.
(-------------------------------------------------Omitted section of the book--------------------------------------------------)
What followed, was profound relief.
The story of the genesis is one that deserves its own book. But the genesis will end where it begins.
(This is only the beginning to the second excerpt, which has yet to be finished and would be released at
some point in time, if at all. The rest will be omitted until then, if it ever comes.)

The author has a penchant from mystery which reminds me of Craig.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on July 09, 2018, 04:56:01 PM

today, this was added to that website.

http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org/Nakamoto_Foundation.txt

Has been removed since, here is the text, retrieved from google

Quote

I would like to clear the air on the foundations purpose. And that is the lack of transparency.
So I will be forthright, this website was set up for the purpose of the foundation, which will be
explained later in detail, but I want to stress that it will not be a foundation that receives
any "donations" as is typical of a charitable foundation. I want to make that very clear.
Rather, it is a private foundation, with the funding coming directly from one source, myself.

I also would like to mention that the website was registered anonymously, and through a proxy.
Yes there are other ways to do it with traditional providers. The security to both the email
and domain are tight enough to negate the need or use of PGP. The old key was never actually
used to sign any release of the old software or old emails as coming from me.

I see no obligation in needing it.

I would stress that the cryptographic experts of which I count to be less than ten in the world,
one of you had the advantage of sitting down with me and even brought with you some of my old writings.
You also wrote a story and introduction. I would advise you to keep discretion. But some of your
colleagues seem to be misinformed and perhaps there should be some clarification in private.

You know who you are.

It will be very embarassing to those experts that come from academia to risk their reputation simply
on word.

Although this is a self published effort (in other words, no help whatsoever), I did not want
to betray myself in going any other route. Which is why the paper does not read as professionally
as those store shelf books you have read. The excerpts are completely my own voice, with no editors.
I do not feel the need to put on a show. It is what it is.

This is the basis for why the pdf is in word format and not latex, as this is a story, first and foremost,
and not an academic paper. Although both speak to the same subject matter, both have very different goals.

My only focus at this time is to work on the book which is strictly about my life and has nothing
to do with a small fraction of time that I have since moved on from. That is what the excerpts, which
have been made publicly available are for. Those of who you who enjoyed the excerpt, I am grateful.
Which is why I had considered writing a second excerpt to close that final chapter of my life.

I should state that most of the conversations are already out in the public domain, save for the aspects
that I covered, details of which only I am aware of. This is the basis for which I felt the freedom to talk
about them is because they were already in the public domain, but I cannot stress the fact that there are
countless conversations that have not been made public. I am not in a position to share what are to be
considered private conversations, unless those mentioned choose to make them public.

But I do want to state that I have no objection to any conversation I had being made public. Out of respect I
only discussed that of which is already in the public domain, as I understand that many do not want their
names to be mentioned, for privacy and safety reasons. And that is something I can understand fully,
is the respect for privacy.

I didn't have to do this, I could have just as easily released the book, but I felt the need to explain
the thought process that went behind my writings. And also reveal truths that were unknown.
No one knows the history of what came before better than us. And by us, I do mean us.
Those of us that were involved. Contrary to what is being egregiously written, this was not
a one man effort. I thought I had made that very clear in the excerpt,
but I will state it here officially then.

I wasn't the only one. And the trail marks I left behind in oversight, make that very clear.
As the saying goes, the code will speak for itself. I don't want to put it out there just now. I want to see
who will come forth to challenge that. If any expert wants to challenge that, then I hope you're willing
to put your name and reputation on that too when the book comes out.

The very short beginning to the second excerpt is here: http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org/predraft.pdf


I am not writing this in response to what is being publicly written, neither positively nor negatively,
but rather as a response to the intentions of the foundation, and to clear the air on the purpose of
the foundation, which will explained later and which will migrate to a shorter domain in the near future.

This is all I will publicly state until the eventual release of the book.

The "predraft" pdf

Quote
This is the HTML version of the file http://nakamotofamilyfoundation.org/predraft.pdf. Google automatically generates HTML versions of documents as we crawl the web.
Tip: To quickly find your search term on this page, press Ctrl+F or ⌘-F (Mac) and use the find bar.
Page 1
Title of Chapter omitted
...If you've noticed by now, I have only mentioned the genesis once. In the beginning of the first excerpt.
And if you recall, I highlighted the word first. That is because it was not the first. Rather, there was
another genesis. From the first version.
A pregenesis of sorts, if you will.
You can imagine the anxiety in what would be the moment I had been waiting for, to see it working, like
the switch to a lift off, or starting up a Hachiroku, and the roar coming on for the first time.
And there it was.
(-------------------------------------------------Omitted section of the book--------------------------------------------------)
What followed, was profound relief.
The story of the genesis is one that deserves its own book. But the genesis will end where it begins.
(This is only the beginning to the second excerpt, which has yet to be finished and would be released at
some point in time, if at all. The rest will be omitted until then, if it ever comes.)

The author has a penchant from mystery which reminds me of Craig.

Had not seen that myself!

Surely the real Satoshi does not need to assert anything, aside if seeking retribution or justice?

~ I've started so i'll finish???

I wonder if this individual might clafify if more than one person communicated with users here on bitcointalk.org , for example ...

If you couldn't sign a message (for whatever reason) then you could at least move some coins from some 'Satoshi' blocks or just login again, somewhere?

Still ... Not your keys. Not your coins. Here endeth the lesson?


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nutildah on July 14, 2018, 04:28:24 AM
I'm thinking its definitely not him.

Looking at his older posts, Satoshi was never that wordy, unless he was trying to technically explain something. He didn't have a penchant for drama, and obviously wanted to maintain his anonymity. He also doesn't need any money, or to say anything, because his work speaks for itself.



Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on July 14, 2018, 05:05:01 AM
Re: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4575874.msg41411073#msg41411073

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for blockchain research etc., ...
Note that signing a verifiable message from an early block or the genesis block is exactly what the real Satoshi should be able to do. I, for example could sign a verifiable message from any block from my old wallet.dat - main thread here:
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4630066.0

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for forum account recovery etc.,

1JXFXUBGs2ZtEDAQMdZ3tkCKo38nT2XSEp

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am not Satoshi Nakamoto. Are you?
42/ is the answer.
Be seeing you at The Restaurant at the End of the Universe?
0.00000000 - BitcoinFX - bitcointalk.org - July 9th, 2018
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1JXFXUBGs2ZtEDAQMdZ3tkCKo38nT2XSEp
HMoTNpmqieWmcIvF/aMTCZlLqAuYnrWuQJk45S0pXK4pFOAB/j2WBTkA5KEGSpJQTclPL3ehaTSdPpV9Ivq+lC0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=1JXFXUBGs2ZtEDAQMdZ3tkCKo38nT2XSEp&vrMsg=I%20am%20not%20Satoshi%20Nakamoto.%20Are%20you%3F%0A42%2F%20is%20the%20answer.%0ABe%20seeing%20you%20at%20The%20Restaurant%20at%20the%20End%20of%20the%20Universe%3F%0A0.00000000%20-%20BitcoinFX%20-%20bitcointalk.org%20-%20July%209th%2C%202018&vrSig=HMoTNpmqieWmcIvF%2FaMTCZlLqAuYnrWuQJk45S0pXK4pFOAB%2Fj2WBTkA5KEGSpJQTclPL3ehaTSdPpV9Ivq%2BlC0%3D (https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=1JXFXUBGs2ZtEDAQMdZ3tkCKo38nT2XSEp&vrMsg=I%20am%20not%20Satoshi%20Nakamoto.%20Are%20you%3F%0A42%2F%20is%20the%20answer.%0ABe%20seeing%20you%20at%20The%20Restaurant%20at%20the%20End%20of%20the%20Universe%3F%0A0.00000000%20-%20BitcoinFX%20-%20bitcointalk.org%20-%20July%209th%2C%202018&vrSig=HMoTNpmqieWmcIvF%2FaMTCZlLqAuYnrWuQJk45S0pXK4pFOAB%2Fj2WBTkA5KEGSpJQTclPL3ehaTSdPpV9Ivq%2BlC0%3D)


A lot here I am missing and struggling to piece together

Theory of Everything
Satoshi Nakamoto
KLM
The Plan - Q
Bitcoin 2
Segregated Witness
Roger F#$kin Ver
Gavin F$%Kin Andreessseeen
Liberty Reserve
Julian Assange
IXCoin I0Coin
Current geopolitical movements and arrests
BitDNS
Zero (Still working on this keeps coming up)
Secret Projects

etc etc etc

Time, I will be able to piece it together, hopefully before the storm (if it comes)


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: justtheticket on July 14, 2018, 07:47:32 AM
When reading the excerpt it certainly reads as credible and doesn't point to anything unreasonable. I can understand the doubt people have but something about it feels authentic. Of course it could be one mans elaborate effort to create a book with some ulterior motive. One thing for sure is that if the book attempts to poo-poo BTC and praise BCH we'll know instantly that it's a load of bullshit. But nothing in the excerpt seems to suggest that. If what he's going to set straight is that 'Craig Wright isn't Satoshi' then that would be a big credibility bonus. There could also be many reasons for not signing with his own key. Perhaps as part of his big plan to disappear was also to destroy his keys thereby ensuring that he can never spend the first minted coins or authenticate himself in the future. To ensure that S. Nakamoto dies when his key dies so that not even himself can go back on his grand plan.

For now, it was a great read and certainly seemed to come from the heart. Especially liked the mention of Hal Finney. A true legend in the Bitcoin Universe.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: xanaxxx on July 14, 2018, 08:11:50 AM
Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?

this satoshi obsession is pretty funny to be honest. So many people can pretend to be satoshi nakamoto, there is only one way to check though, that is him to sign a transaction from his wallet


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: tarball on July 14, 2018, 08:20:46 AM
this satoshi obsession is pretty funny to be honest. So many people can pretend to be satoshi nakamoto, there is only one way to check though, that is him to sign a transaction from his wallet

Signing a message would be better, a message of your choice.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: ghosong on July 14, 2018, 08:29:18 AM
I feel hesitant about this news. Because someone who has barely appeared in a decade and wants to come back will be when high prices skyrocketed last year and now when it has plummeted a lot. For me it is nothing more than speculation, there is no guarantee that the price will affect us all hope that it will happen we do not even know if it is true and if it then then it will be great and whales will return to Bitcoin and it will pump up enough Bitcoin prices nice.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on July 14, 2018, 07:57:27 PM
I'm thinking its definitely not him.

Looking at his older posts, Satoshi was never that wordy, unless he was trying to technically explain something. He didn't have a penchant for drama, and obviously wanted to maintain his anonymity. He also doesn't need any money, or to say anything, because his work speaks for itself.


Indeed. I always found Satoshi to be very direct and to the point, almost with an air of arrogance in this regard sometimes we might assume?

For example, I've heard people say that Satoshi's quote; "If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry." - 2010-07-29 - sounds like CWS i.e. @ProfFaustus on twitter. However, the ego presented by this fellow is enough to put me off considering even using BCH let alone anyone new to Bitcoin, in my honest and humble opinion.

If CWS was a protagonist behind bitcoin (with Dave Kleiman / others) then I think we can assume for certain that Kleiman or someone else did most of the communicating here on bitcointalk? If Kleiman knew he was potentially unwell and/or dying, then we might certainly understand his perspective in regards to making such a comment, if he did.

CWS, according to his twitter feed is working on more papers ... to be published ...

Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? Suspects, frauds and conspiracies on bitcointalk
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.0

The paradox of Bitcoin Cash
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4663094.0

...

Anyhow, I think us humans are very well conditioned to make connections and to see patterns where there are probably none, hopefully.  :)

Sometimes my posts simply try to highlight the ridiculous nature of these occurrences.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on July 14, 2018, 09:25:50 PM
I'm thinking its definitely not him.
Looking at his older posts, Satoshi was never that wordy, unless he was trying to technically explain something. He didn't have a penchant for drama, and obviously wanted to maintain his anonymity. He also doesn't need any money, or to say anything, because his work speaks for itself.
Indeed. I always found Satoshi to be very direct and to the point, almost with an air of arrogance in this regard sometimes we might assume?
For example, I've heard people say that Satoshi's quote; "If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry." - 2010-07-29 - sounds like CWS i.e. @ProfFaustus on twitter. However, the ego presented by this fellow is enough to put me off considering even using BCH let alone anyone new to Bitcoin, in my honest and humble opinion.
If CWS was a protagonist behind bitcoin (with Dave Kleiman / others) then I think we can assume for certain that Kleiman or someone else did most of the communicating here on bitcointalk? If Kleiman knew he was potentially unwell and/or dying, then we might certainly understand his perspective in regards to making such a comment, if he did.
CWS, according to his twitter feed is working on more papers ... to be published ...
Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? Suspects, frauds and conspiracies on bitcointalk
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.0
The paradox of Bitcoin Cash
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4663094.0
...
Anyhow, I think us humans are very well conditioned to make connections and to see patterns where there are probably none, hopefully.  :)

Sometimes my posts simply try to highlight the ridiculous nature of these occurrences.


see pattern, see connections

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all
Why does Roger's friend Gavin Andresseenn give him Bcash code

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger


Yeah it hurts, where are our COINS!


been hunting this for 5 years and Roger is gonna help find them

My Story of Being Tortured in Prison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ07sM5w_Dk


Gotta new one for

My Story of Being Tortured by the Blockchain

All the evidence is right there


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on July 15, 2018, 12:35:52 AM
From:
Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus (twitter.com)
- https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus/status/1018249107083874304

" You don't use keys to prove identity. Keys only prove access to keys. I find it remarkable how many so called security "experts" fail at this most basic of points.

A cryptographic key cannot prove identity. It only proves knowledge of the key and that is distinct from identity. "


...

True, but ... https://youtu.be/hl1nPssCL1E and https://youtu.be/lhMV37a7xmY

So, still ... Not your keys. Not your coins. (or just no access yet?!?).


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on July 15, 2018, 01:44:12 AM
From:
Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus (twitter.com)
- https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus/status/1018249107083874304

" You don't use keys to prove identity. Keys only prove access to keys. I find it remarkable how many so called security "experts" fail at this most basic of points.

A cryptographic key cannot prove identity. It only proves knowledge of the key and that is distinct from identity. "


...

True, but ... https://youtu.be/hl1nPssCL1E and https://youtu.be/lhMV37a7xmY

So, still ... Not your keys. Not your coins. (or just no access yet?!?).


Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus
Jul 10

The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.

Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.

People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.




Yep Satoshi is back to kill his own blockchain  ??? :o :o ;D


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on July 16, 2018, 09:34:03 PM
Back to the topic then ...

The paper contains a couple of references to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy ...

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_(number) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_(number))

" ... The number 42 is, in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams, the "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything", calculated by an enormous supercomputer named Deep Thought over a period of 7.5 million years. Unfortunately, no one knows what the question is. Thus, to calculate the Ultimate Question, a special computer the size of a small planet was built from organic components and named "Earth". The Ultimate Question "What do you get when you multiply six by nine" was found by Arthur Dent and Ford Prefect in the second book of the series, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe. ... "

and

" ... In Japanese culture, the number 42 is considered unlucky because the numerals when pronounced separatelyshi ni (four two)sound like the word "death". ...

oh, and not forgetting the most important bit ...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Simple_Magic_Cube.svg/220px-Simple_Magic_Cube.svg.png

So, .... some facts and some fiction here perhaps?

Remember : The next time someone asks you to explain how Bitcoin works ... Tell them it works like a chain of 'solved' rubiks cubes (magic cubes), where all the contained transaction data must match up (like the faces of the cube), before any work on the next cube (block) can commence.

Magic Internet Money - Who knew ?  :)

- https://youtu.be/aboZctrHfK8


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Tjktader on July 17, 2018, 04:47:30 PM
hey bro! i just saw that you are one of the first Bitcoin enthusiasts, can you please say how many BTC did you have back that time? how many could you mine in a day with a regular home PC?
thanks


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: btcCoincart on July 17, 2018, 04:48:57 PM
He's unknown, how can you know he will write a book?
That's all myth my friend :)
but whatever, I still want to see what's next ;)


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: btchunter786 on July 17, 2018, 06:51:26 PM
Actually BTC created a developer named Satoshi based on this there is a news that he come back again based on this actually I dont have enough knowledge about this but we should know that hes real or not because many types of person come and tell they are satoshi so there is a conflict.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: allthebitandbobs on July 17, 2018, 07:17:52 PM
How can a dead person write a book .He dead bro .


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: kimbnol on July 17, 2018, 07:19:37 PM
Bitcoin 2 coming ??   :o  21,000,000 bitcoins is less for world economy which is $50,000,000,000,000/year

I always though that if bitcoin survived till that limit, they will increase the number. There is no practical limitation.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: matthewio on July 17, 2018, 07:22:19 PM
His account on this forum has not being accessed for several years.I doubt he will ever reveal his identity because he is someone of great interest.Even his bitcoins has never been moved.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: RodeoX on July 17, 2018, 07:23:54 PM
Everything Satoshi wanted to say has been said in code.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: matthewio on July 17, 2018, 07:25:01 PM
How can a dead person write a book .He dead bro .
Thats is a possibilty, that he is dead, if that be the case, there will be more stability on bitcoin since it will means his bitcoins will never be moved


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Tomahawk One Two on July 17, 2018, 08:09:12 PM
I think that all this epic about the fact that the real Satoshi Nakamoto will write a book is just another of the mechanisms with the help of a whales will continue to control the consciousness of the masses. The true Satoshi Nakamoto is not the one who writes the book and the one who can demonstrate that he really owns private keys to a million bitcoins.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: oseikuf44 on July 17, 2018, 09:02:42 PM
Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?
If bitcoin creator , Satoshi Nakamot is alive and even available why then is he not surfacing for a longer period of time despite the speculations and consipiracy theory surrounding his existence.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Rockkey on July 17, 2018, 09:11:35 PM
From the fact that someone has done some analysis and suggested that the style of writing several sentences may coincide with the style of nipping their texts Satoshi Nakamoto - it does not mean that it is exactly so. Now a lot of people are trying to speculate on this name. Where are the guarantees that this is not another fiction to fool people?


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on July 17, 2018, 09:29:07 PM
As it was in the beginning, how it formed, what it stood to represent, how it persists today

A

State
Authority of
Totalitarian control by
Oligarchs using a
System of
Hierarchical
Institutions


You are

We are

Satoshi

You are already one Satoshi of many, use Bitcoin as your weapon and break free

The truth is that simple


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: spiker777 on July 17, 2018, 09:35:32 PM
Right now, there's literally no way for anybody to prove they are Satoshi unless they sign a message from an address that was rewarded by the genesis block, or at least a block close to it. That would provide some credibility to it. Somebody out there knows, and has kept their lips sealed on the subject. If they haven't broken yet, it probably never will break out.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on July 18, 2018, 11:31:39 PM
Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?
If bitcoin creator , Satoshi Nakamot is alive and even available why then is he not surfacing for a longer period of time despite the speculations and consipiracy theory surrounding his existence.

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythopoeia

Self preservation keeps the crowd alive ?


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Yantoaja on July 18, 2018, 11:41:36 PM
whether this is a sign that Satoshi will come back after claiming that he no longer follows the bitcoin world, I am very curious about what will happen. I do not know the details of the story but I am sure this will not be easy to happen, everything about it will remain a mystery.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Spendulus on July 19, 2018, 12:43:40 AM
I think that all this epic about the fact that the real Satoshi Nakamoto will write a book is just another of the mechanisms with the help of a whales will continue to control the consciousness of the masses. The true Satoshi Nakamoto is not the one who writes the book and the one who can demonstrate that he really owns private keys to a million bitcoins.

Correct.

There is nothing simpler than someone proving he is Satoshi.

There is zero reason, gain or advantage in speculation.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nutildah on July 21, 2018, 05:56:00 AM

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythopoeia

Self preservation keeps the crowd alive ?

Holy cow, rereading Satoshi's OP of all forum posts, I just discovered that you were the second poster on this forum ever. Mad props to you!

It seems that by this point Satoshi is now more legend than man, taking into consideration that:

 - His total public presence spans less than 3 years
 - Nobody could ever definitively pinpoint who he/she/they were
 - They were probably more than 1 person

Perhaps this was all by design, perhaps Satoshi really did lose access to his private keys.

If the former is true, it stands to reason that whoever created bitcoin already has more money than whatever they could gain from bitcoin, or else is sworn under some kind of blood oath never to reveal themselves or cash out their BTC.

If the latter is true, maybe he's too embarrassed to admit he lost them? How could you move on to "other things" after bitcoin?? I'm genuinely curious as to what they might be. (Guess I should ask Mike Hearn).

The overlapping features of other mythological figures and Satoshi are substantial. He can definitely be made into some kind of libertarian, anti-authority prophet, if people are inclined to do so. Why not? People need something to believe in.


There is nothing simpler than someone proving he is Satoshi.

There is zero reason, gain or advantage in speculation.

True, but its fun anyway. Just like its fun to speculate about the originator of anything anonymously created that had a substantial impact on reality.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: lissandra3612 on July 21, 2018, 08:11:08 AM
Right now, literally, there is no way for anyone to prove they are Satoshi unless they sign a message from an address that is rewarded by the original block, or at least a block near it.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Juggy777 on July 21, 2018, 08:18:30 AM
This is the classic free traffic getaway and thanks to people like op they have got crazy amount of free traffic coming in😂. The very existence of satoshi's will and I repeat will never be confirmed cause it's literally impossible for him to prove it, the only way he can do is by moving his coins and if he did Bitcoin could plunge down so no I don't think this is true, and let satoshi be a mystery for the sake of Bitcoin we don't really need to know who he is.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: nutildah on July 21, 2018, 08:39:47 AM
This is the classic free traffic getaway and thanks to people like op they have got crazy amount of free traffic coming in😂.

Yeah all that free traffic's doing me a world of good buddy. Better click on my sig before all the free money is gone.

And the article was actually published by Bloomberg; Frank made me second guess myself.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: goodluck0319 on July 21, 2018, 08:49:11 AM
I don't think he'll be out any time soon. I think this is not necessary and the mystery around bitcoin gives an even greater illusion of anonymity and adds a price


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Andrew S on July 21, 2018, 08:53:08 AM
In general, I do not understand what kind of difference who it is, most importantly he created bitcoin, why everyone is wondering what kind of person it is.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: CoinClarity on July 23, 2018, 05:52:44 AM
For anyone who would like a primer on what is already known about Satoshi, we recently put out an article compiling the sources of all (most) of his online writings:

https://coinclarity.com/who-is-satoshi-part-1/

Next week we'll do an article on people who are suspected to be him but probably aren't, and the next week we'll put out an article about people (or persons) who could still possibly be him.

I know this is self-promotion but its entirely relevant to the topic at hand.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on July 23, 2018, 06:33:15 AM
For anyone who would like a primer on what is already known about Satoshi, we recently put out an article compiling the sources of all (most) of his online writings:

https://coinclarity.com/who-is-satoshi-part-1/

Next week we'll do an article on people who are suspected to be him but probably aren't, and the next week we'll put out an article about people (or persons) who could still possibly be him.

I know this is self-promotion but its entirely relevant to the topic at hand.

Is there anything in there about how Satoshi could be a team?

That would mean you excluded something from your suspects.




Anything about Bruce Wagner the pedophile and his exposure of Satoshi to the media. Just after that Satoshi goes missing.


What about Craig, Roger and Gavin conspiring against Satoshi's idea of 1mb blocks

ooohhh!!!
Gavin talking to the CIA and CIA knowing Roger having a federal charge over his head that could be used for bribing  ;)



Anything from the forums about that one in the article.

Very curious, hate to be disappointed.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: CoinClarity on July 23, 2018, 06:53:12 AM
For anyone who would like a primer on what is already known about Satoshi, we recently put out an article compiling the sources of all (most) of his online writings:

https://coinclarity.com/who-is-satoshi-part-1/

Is there anything in there about how Satoshi could be a team?

That would mean you excluded something from your suspects.

Though its something of a spoiler, I was planning on talking about that in article 3/3 of the series. I can think of 3 main team ideas that could have comprised Satoshi thus far. I think this is the most likely of cases, as it appears at the very least that whoever penned the whitepaper was different from whoever did the brunt of the posts on this forum.

Anything about Bruce Wagner the pedophile and his exposure of Satoshi to the media. Just after that Satoshi goes missing.

What about Craig, Roger and Gavin conspiring against Satoshi's idea of 1mb blocks

ooohhh!!!
Gavin talking to the CIA and CIA knowing Roger having a federal charge over his head that could be used for bribing  ;)

Thanks for the tidbits! Will take a look at all of that.

Very curious, hate to be disappointed.

We will do our best, sir!

https://i.imgur.com/deNUoPt.jpg


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: Ava Duvall on July 23, 2018, 07:14:07 AM
Email him and get his PGP key verified, I'd think its enough to prove if he was real Satoshi Nakamoto.
This is one of the biggest scams in bitcoin. i would really doubt its him. only real proof or evidence would help, and even if it was him i doubt he would provide info like that


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on July 23, 2018, 07:24:29 AM
For anyone who would like a primer on what is already known about Satoshi, we recently put out an article compiling the sources of all (most) of his online writings:

https://coinclarity.com/who-is-satoshi-part-1/

Is there anything in there about how Satoshi could be a team?

That would mean you excluded something from your suspects.

Though its something of a spoiler, I was planning on talking about that in article 3/3 of the series. I can think of 3 main team ideas that could have comprised Satoshi thus far. I think this is the most likely of cases, as it appears at the very least that whoever penned the whitepaper was different from whoever did the brunt of the posts on this forum.

Anything about Bruce Wagner the pedophile and his exposure of Satoshi to the media. Just after that Satoshi goes missing.

What about Craig, Roger and Gavin conspiring against Satoshi's idea of 1mb blocks

ooohhh!!!
Gavin talking to the CIA and CIA knowing Roger having a federal charge over his head that could be used for bribing  ;)

Thanks for the tidbits! Will take a look at all of that.

Very curious, hate to be disappointed.

We will do our best, sir!

https://i.imgur.com/deNUoPt.jpg

Great work, outstanding congratulations, recommended must read for anyone.


Follow the threads about Wikileaks, Bruce and the Gavin/CIA, focus on the support around Craig Wright, Roger Ver, Gavin Andreeessseeennn

Then when you see all the projects the above have supported, then broke, fixed, hacked and coins lost
Liberty Reserve, bitinstant, butterfly labs, KNC miner, Mtgox, Cryptsy, Bcash etc etc etc - literal rabbit hole, well they only want death to bitcoin, the blockchain holds all their illegal transactions


Beware the paid shills, spooks and double/triple accounts



Lastly so as to follow Satoshi
cypherpunks mailing list conversations with Julian Assange
Nick Zsabo, @BitcoinFX member here has interesting reads as well
ooohh and the bitcoin blockchain they all wrote on
https://bitcoinstrings.com/all



What account did Assange have on this forum (logical for a hacker who gets in on bitcoin to join), that is the secret

Assange applied for Legal Asylum, 6 months after Satoshi disappeared, effectively both founders of the 2 biggest libertarian movements of 2011 gone


never forget though you are a satoshi
a unit of a State Authority of Totalitarian control by Oligarchs using a System of Hierarchical Institutions

Often referred to as WE ARE SATOSHI

basic cryptography - first thing young code breakers learn


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: richardson1128 on July 23, 2018, 07:29:27 AM
This isn't true at all. If it is true then why now? Now that the price are lowered? I guess he'll rescue other investors? jk, Anyway i dont see significance to it for us. Let it be.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: dekumidoriya on July 23, 2018, 07:35:07 AM
I think it is really the time to divulge the true face of the creator of the almighty bitcoin. If satoshi reveals himself, that will surely be written in history.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: CoinClarity on July 30, 2018, 03:08:56 AM
In this article we go over 5 of the primary personalities suspected to be Satoshi by the media.

https://coinclarity.com/who-is-satoshi-part-2/

Personally speaking, and as the conclusion of all the research I did, I would think #1, Nick Szabo would be the most likely, if Satoshi was only one person.

In the next article we'll explore the whole "team" idea and who might have composed the team.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: CoinClarity on August 10, 2018, 06:32:21 AM
In Part III of our 3 part series on Who is Satoshi Nakamoto, we go over some less-popular and novel theories as to who Satoshi might actually be.

https://coinclarity.com/who-is-satoshi-part-3/

In case you're too lazy to read the article, some of our favorite, less explored candidates are:

- The NSA

- Global Tech Corporation Consortium

- James Harris Simons (multibillionaire quantitative hedge fund founder, ex-NSA employee)

- Adam Back (hashcash inventor, Blockstream CEO)

We give our rationale behind each one, focusing mainly on the latter two possibilities.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on August 10, 2018, 06:55:45 AM
In Part III of our 3 part series on Who is Satoshi Nakamoto, we go over some less-popular and novel theories as to who Satoshi might actually be.

https://coinclarity.com/who-is-satoshi-part-3/

In case you're too lazy to read the article, some of our favorite, less explored candidates are:

- The NSA

- Global Tech Corporation Consortium

- James Harris Simons (multibillionaire quantitative hedge fund founder, ex-NSA employee)

- Adam Back (hashcash inventor, Blockstream CEO)

We give our rationale behind each one, focusing mainly on the latter two possibilities.

Awesome luv it.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: hdueueiw432 on August 10, 2018, 07:36:36 AM
If Satoshi Nakamoto really came back, maybe the bitcoin value would be affected if not directly indirectly. The media will have a working day with newspapers related to Satoshi Nakamoto. It is no exception that his return is also a target for gangs, who have long hated Satoshi, which is their target.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: ntarah langger on August 10, 2018, 07:37:51 AM
Who is the person who doesn't want to be Satoshi Nakamoto right now?
everyone wants to acknowledge himself as satoshi nakamoto ,.  ::)


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on August 10, 2018, 08:00:53 AM
Who is the person who doesn't want to be Satoshi Nakamoto right now?
everyone wants to acknowledge himself as satoshi nakamoto ,.  ::)

Nakamoto was imprisoned

Long live Satoshi.


Outstanding achievement, historical.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: CoinClarity on August 11, 2018, 02:35:06 AM

Awesome luv it.

Thanks! Much appreciated. It was fun to do the research for.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on August 11, 2018, 05:11:54 AM
Awesome luv it.
Thanks! Much appreciated. It was fun to do the research for.

I think i idolize this man, cant wait to read more on him when i can get to it, so stoked you covered him

James Harris Simons


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: tonysitaly on August 11, 2018, 05:19:15 AM
I don't believe Satoshi's coming back, which could be another technician's prank, unless Satoshi logs into BTT forums or uses his bitcoin address for a transfer.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: Falmera on August 11, 2018, 05:31:39 AM
Not sure how much to believe it or not. Because a person who almost from a decade did not turn up and had wanted to be back would have being when the price was rocket high last year and now when it has dipped a lot. For me it is nothing more than speculation.

I think that too. It maybe just a speculation. But whatever it is we must believe that bitcoin is going to soar higher than before. Whether Satoshi Nakamoto is real or not, whoever made this bitcoin is, we are thankful to him/her or them.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nutildah on August 11, 2018, 08:34:02 AM

I think i idolize this man, cant wait to read more on him when i can get to it, so stoked you covered him

James Harris Simons

One of his strengths is "making money out of nothing," sounds like a bitcoiner if I ever heard one.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Dico88 on August 11, 2018, 11:06:33 PM
I think it's hard to believe that it will happen with bitcoin that is only 9 years old. There are so many investors who will invest in bitcoin. It might be someone who pretended to be satoshi with another great fraud that happened. If satoshi returns then this becomes a very rare miracle. 8)


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: mymenace on August 12, 2018, 02:44:00 AM
I think i idolize this man, cant wait to read more on him when i can get to it, so stoked you covered him
James Harris Simons

One of his strengths is "making money out of nothing," sounds like a bitcoiner if I ever heard one.

And more, so matter of fact, straight to the point.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: altercreed on August 12, 2018, 01:22:08 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto can promote or make a book about it if he really want to because he's the creator of it. But even if satoshi nakamoto will not suggests luck and fortune to people who invest on it, it will still attract other investors to invest because they know that there are many people who's lives are getting better because of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: criptouser on August 24, 2018, 03:26:22 PM
If there is bitcoin-2, bitcoin-1 can fall very strongly in favor of the second. I think that everyone will start pouring old bitcoins into a new bitcoin. But somehow it was not, I'm glad of such news.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: HeXecutor on August 24, 2018, 04:47:39 PM
Oh yeah, after many years, the very creator of bitcoin has returned and is ready to open to the world a horrifying truth at the expense of bitcoin and the reasons for its creation ... HD
Seriously, how many will write about similar topics on this forum, are there really people who are interested in this?
Who knows what happened to this Satoshi ... and even more interesting why people are constantly trying to guess what it was


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Drobek on August 24, 2018, 05:00:20 PM
I see this to be a scammy act. Satoshi won't have to go through all this. We can't tell if Satoshi is alive or not. This person in question will need to provide his PGP key verified. Even with that, I'll believe just a little.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on August 25, 2018, 10:41:54 AM

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythopoeia

Self preservation keeps the crowd alive ?

Holy cow, rereading Satoshi's OP of all forum posts, I just discovered that you were the second poster on this forum ever. Mad props to you!

It seems that by this point Satoshi is now more legend than man, taking into consideration that:

 - His total public presence spans less than 3 years
 - Nobody could ever definitively pinpoint who he/she/they were
 - They were probably more than 1 person

Perhaps this was all by design, perhaps Satoshi really did lose access to his private keys.

If the former is true, it stands to reason that whoever created bitcoin already has more money than whatever they could gain from bitcoin, or else is sworn under some kind of blood oath never to reveal themselves or cash out their BTC.

If the latter is true, maybe he's too embarrassed to admit he lost them? How could you move on to "other things" after bitcoin?? I'm genuinely curious as to what they might be. (Guess I should ask Mike Hearn).

The overlapping features of other mythological figures and Satoshi are substantial. He can definitely be made into some kind of libertarian, anti-authority prophet, if people are inclined to do so. Why not? People need something to believe in.


There is nothing simpler than someone proving he is Satoshi.

There is zero reason, gain or advantage in speculation.

True, but its fun anyway. Just like its fun to speculate about the originator of anything anonymously created that had a substantial impact on reality.

Nope. Not the 2nd, just the first forum member to post in Satoshi's 'welcome to the new bitcoin forum' thread.

In terms of Satoshi as a 'legend' and proceeding mythopoeia, you will further appreciate this type of nom de plume;

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_Blissett_(nom_de_plume) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_Blissett_(nom_de_plume))

If the Satoshi name is actually taken from the (elsewhere) cited cypherpunk video game / puzzle - then we should perhaps seek to better understand this collective amalgamation / origin of ideas and sentiments.

A Zen saying to keep me 'sane' - "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the Masters; seek what they sought".

I've heard Craig Wright (for example) state the Bitcoin is/was not Anarchistic. Of course it is, by it's very nature, you cannot set about constructing an alternative monetary system without knowing the disruption it would potentially cause to the current status quo. We can see this demonstrated quite clearly though early Libertarian type support of Bitcoin. Hence, 'anonymity' is/was always a prerequisite.

...

Here is a great example of this established mindset experience of an original cypherpunk, although I think we can safely assert that Satoshi Nakamoto is not Joey Allegra ...

The Money Machine
- https://moxie.org/stories/money-machine/



Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: CoinClarity on August 31, 2018, 01:39:58 PM
In terms of Satoshi as a 'legend' and proceeding mythopoeia, you will further appreciate this type of nom de plume;

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_Blissett_(nom_de_plume) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_Blissett_(nom_de_plume))

If the Satoshi name is actually taken from the (elsewhere) cited cypherpunk video game / puzzle - then we should perhaps seek to better understand this collective amalgamation / origin of ideas and sentiments.

A Zen saying to keep me 'sane' - "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the Masters; seek what they sought".

I've heard Craig Wright (for example) state the Bitcoin is/was not Anarchistic. Of course it is, by it's very nature, you cannot set about constructing an alternative monetary system without knowing the disruption it would potentially cause to the current status quo. We can see this demonstrated quite clearly though early Libertarian type support of Bitcoin. Hence, 'anonymity' is/was always a prerequisite.

...

Here is a great example of this established mindset experience of an original cypherpunk, although I think we can safely assert that Satoshi Nakamoto is not Joey Allegra ...

The Money Machine
- https://moxie.org/stories/money-machine/

The amount of research there is out there on this subject is truly dizzying, even within this forum itself.

Has anyone ever accused you of being Satoshi? If not, please allow me the honor of being the first!  :D


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nutildah on September 01, 2018, 08:41:43 AM
Plot Twist: Craig Wright penned the new "book" and is the owner of nakamotofoundation.

He stepped away from the limelight after the pressures of being Satoshi were too much to bear in 2016, vowing never to return, and true to his word, he hasn't been heard from since!  :-X  :)  :D :D :D


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: jademaxsuy on September 01, 2018, 08:48:45 AM
Bitcoin 2 coming ??   :o  21,000,000 bitcoins is less for world economy which is $50,000,000,000,000/year
Well maybe but we could not assume for now that the 21M bitcoins is lesser compared to the world economy because that will depend also on the promotion of bitcoin system like for now that there are some market price crushed due to some reasons like the disapproval of the ETF in the USA government. 


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: talkbitcoin on September 01, 2018, 08:56:43 AM
Plot Twist: Craig Wright penned the new "book" and is the owner of nakamotofoundation.

He stepped away from the limelight after the pressures of being Satoshi were too much to bear in 2016, vowing never to return, and true to his word, he hasn't been heard from since!  :-X  :)  :D :D :D

very true. we no longer see or hear Craig Scammer Wright apart from him creating a fork of BCash and calling it Satsohi's vision and still claiming to be Satoshi although not being capable of providing any proof whatsoever :D


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: kniheant on September 01, 2018, 01:43:47 PM
in my opinion,Satoshi Nakamoto is just a code name after the creation of bitcoin since he was unknown there are some people and groups claiming the credits for bitcoin existence.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: CoinClarity on September 02, 2018, 04:12:44 AM
Plot Twist: Craig Wright penned the new "book" and is the owner of nakamotofoundation.

He stepped away from the limelight after the pressures of being Satoshi were too much to bear in 2016, vowing never to return, and true to his word, he hasn't been heard from since!  :-X  :)  :D :D :D

very true. we no longer see or hear Craig Scammer Wright apart from him creating a fork of BCash and calling it Satsohi's vision and still claiming to be Satoshi although not being capable of providing any proof whatsoever :D

Yeah other than that, he's pretty much a ghost these days! /s

What a stand-up guy! /s


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: C0ld_Zero on September 02, 2018, 04:25:30 AM
I simply trust Satoshi Nakimoto will utilize any power he needs to improve the world. What's more, not succumb to eagerness, abuse of assets, and be aware of protecting the future for everybody, not simply the rich.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: avoxosuccesful on September 02, 2018, 04:43:04 AM
truth is he wouldn't wanna be satoshi right now, i mean his work and development is taking the world to another dimension so anybody would wanna put him self as satoshi to take the akolade. but to me i don't the think the story is true its just another prank on bitcoin users


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: xbossJ on September 02, 2018, 05:20:40 AM
I don't think the real satoshi Nakamoto would want to be identified! If he were a man who wanted firm, fortune and accolades he would have made himself known long ago the way I see new coin creators gallivanting around these days. It would be so difficult to unmasked the real satoshi because so far more than 10 persons at one point or the other have claimed to be "Satoshi Nakamoto" as if there is a medal to be won for it! As for the future of bitcoin, it will be here with us as a store of value, people might come up with faster solutions because this is bitcoin's only weakness, but it wouldn't stop peoples trust for it from quadrupling.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: glowing10 on September 02, 2018, 05:26:14 AM
I simply trust Satoshi Nakimoto will utilize any power he needs to improve the world. What's more, not succumb to eagerness, abuse of assets, and be aware of protecting the future for everybody, not simply the rich.

If he is back or an institution is Satoshi and if they are back then it is a good sign as things will take a good course of direction from here on and would soon be reaching to new high of levels . So if you are looking to buy now then it is the right time to enter and buy some .


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: CoinClarity on September 06, 2018, 03:53:10 PM
I simply trust Satoshi Nakimoto will utilize any power he needs to improve the world. What's more, not succumb to eagerness, abuse of assets, and be aware of protecting the future for everybody, not simply the rich.

If he is back or an institution is Satoshi and if they are back then it is a good sign as things will take a good course of direction from here on and would soon be reaching to new high of levels . So if you are looking to buy now then it is the right time to enter and buy some .


It would appear he's not actually back and that the hoax has been abandoned.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nabinkhadka on September 06, 2018, 03:58:33 PM
I think it is just the troll to entertain people. Why we need same kind of currencies again and again.  The crypto currencies are really over-flooded .  LET MAKE HAPPEN WHAT IS NEEDED.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Jamal7 on September 06, 2018, 04:07:51 PM
great news for people and it will help for transactions.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: RodeoX on September 06, 2018, 04:26:09 PM
Everything Satoshi had to say is said in the protocol code. This is not a coin about a guy.  ;)


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Caubethamaner on September 07, 2018, 02:12:19 AM
It will bring great impact on bitcoin if it's true that Mr. Satoshi is coming back but let's not bring our hopes up on this article because we don't want to be hyped all over this news and might spread a FUDs.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Bloomberg
Post by: Ava Duvall on September 07, 2018, 08:20:40 AM
Bitcoin 2 coming ??   :o


If Satoshi is back, does it means bitcoin is on rise again? That's what I supposed to understand it. 😊
There's a chance but lets not get our hopes up


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: son14.girl on September 07, 2018, 08:39:10 AM
if the book written by Satoshi Nakamoto is circulating, I will buy. I just want to say thank you very much to satoshi nakamoto for his services. bitcoin exists because of satoshi nakamoto. Thank's!!


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: JenkinsCharlie on September 07, 2018, 08:46:44 AM
This is so incredibly stupid. Hi it's me, Satoshi, I love you all, use bitcoin!!





Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: dimbaba on September 07, 2018, 04:11:29 PM
It would be so difficult to unmasked the real satoshi because so far more than 10 persons at one point or the other have claimed to be "Satoshi Nakamoto" as if there is a medal to be won for it! As for the future of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: YarkoL on September 18, 2018, 08:34:03 PM

Looks like the site is gone now.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: abound on September 18, 2018, 09:31:49 PM
If Satoshi Nakamoto is back there is no guarantee that the price will be affect we all hope that it will happen

We don't even know if its true and if it is then it would be great and the whales will come back to btc and it will pump pretty good...


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nutildah on September 19, 2018, 02:00:21 PM

Looks like the site is gone now.

Ah, good. Even though I'm the one who started this thread I'm happy they gave up, it was just a hoax.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: gowobonyok on September 20, 2018, 05:45:51 AM
Satoshi's existence is indeed very mysterious, and if it is true he will release a book that will be marketed throughout the world, it will be closer to knowing who he really is. if indeed he who created bitcoin then he disappeared, he could manipulate the market with his alibi and take profit from this situation.

What do you think?


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Salauusman on September 20, 2018, 06:49:27 AM
Let us stop being waiting or looking for Satoshi to be back, even if satoshi is back does it means bitcoin is on rise again? That's what I supposed to understand it. 


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: severaldetails on September 20, 2018, 07:00:55 AM
My personal opinion: claiming to be Satoshi and writing a book would be a good way to make a fortune. All you need is time and solid knowledge about bitcoin.
Mining needs a big investment in mining equipment, trading is risky, so why not write a book and use the name Satoshi as advertisement?


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: yianni on September 23, 2018, 11:59:01 AM
My personal opinion: claiming to be Satoshi and writing a book would be a good way to make a fortune. All you need is time and solid knowledge about bitcoin.
Mining needs a big investment in mining equipment, trading is risky, so why not write a book and use the name Satoshi as advertisement?


I've been around since before this forum, watching the bitcoin development. In my opinion people should stop idolising Satoshi whoever he/she/they might be. He was a good programmer but he was by no mean a God. If it wasn't for the help of the community Satoshi would never have been able to deploy bitcoin.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: RusellTim on October 06, 2018, 09:24:47 AM
For me, I do not think the story is right, it's just another joke on the bitcoin user. If he was a man who wanted the company, property and prizes, he would make himself known for a long time how I see new coin creators exaggerate around these days. For the future of bitcoin, it will be here with us as a valuable store, people can come up with solutions faster because this is the only bitcoin weakness, but it will not deter trust. People give it four times. Why do we need the same currency? LET MAKE HAPPEN NEEDED. Everything Satoshi said was said in the protocol code.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: FedorIzmailov on November 05, 2018, 12:14:43 AM
It seems to me that this is a fake stuffing information in order to stir up interest in Bitcoin. even if he did it and who and how could know about it?


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: ccryptopark on November 05, 2018, 12:26:18 AM
I honestly wouldn't be surprised lol. We shouldn't waste time on who is he but rather than on how we can implement his tech


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: maxilopez on November 05, 2018, 12:33:23 AM
it would be great news for all bitcoin enthusiasts since nothing has been heard of it since 2099


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: drmilind2004 on November 05, 2018, 12:39:07 AM
LOL, you people are turning Satoshi into a kind of Loch Ness Monster, what with all the rumours of sightings, comebacks, new chains, and what not!   :D


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: bubblebubble on November 05, 2018, 07:11:54 AM
It seems to me that this is a fake stuffing information in order to stir up interest in Bitcoin. even if he did it and who and how could know about it?

It is not a fake. Please read the history and you will know about him and his revolutionary ideas.
I hope these ideas will survive in the future.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: larrylegend33 on November 05, 2018, 07:19:00 AM
I have read the news and i wouldn't believe that. If Satoshi Nakamura publishes a book about bitcoin or cryptocurrency he would become a best seller i am sure but i am also sure that he will not come out. I really don't know why he is hiding.. I think he scares of something or someone and hiding for not to die.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: bradshe1 on November 12, 2018, 01:09:10 PM
I dont think that an actual bitcoin creator made this statement. It sounds fake, like someone just took a chance to use the famous name and get famous. Satoshi Nakomoto, whoever that might be, made the right decision not to reveal the personality and leave the project. Bitcoin is a decentralized currency so it shouldnt have a name behind it. Why would Satoshi Nakamoto decide to disclose the identity 10 years later? Its strange. We should focus on the technology instead of solving the puzzle of who that might be.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on December 05, 2018, 10:20:28 AM
In terms of Satoshi as a 'legend' and proceeding mythopoeia, you will further appreciate this type of nom de plume;

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_Blissett_(nom_de_plume) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_Blissett_(nom_de_plume))

If the Satoshi name is actually taken from the (elsewhere) cited cypherpunk video game / puzzle - then we should perhaps seek to better understand this collective amalgamation / origin of ideas and sentiments.

A Zen saying to keep me 'sane' - "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the Masters; seek what they sought".

I've heard Craig Wright (for example) state the Bitcoin is/was not Anarchistic. Of course it is, by it's very nature, you cannot set about constructing an alternative monetary system without knowing the disruption it would potentially cause to the current status quo. We can see this demonstrated quite clearly though early Libertarian type support of Bitcoin. Hence, 'anonymity' is/was always a prerequisite.

...

Here is a great example of this established mindset experience of an original cypherpunk, although I think we can safely assert that Satoshi Nakamoto is not Joey Allegra ...

The Money Machine
- https://moxie.org/stories/money-machine/

The amount of research there is out there on this subject is truly dizzying, even within this forum itself.

Has anyone ever accused you of being Satoshi? If not, please allow me the honor of being the first!  :D

Actually, I think you are possibly the first individual to ask me this directly.

I'm not Satoshi. I've just been around since early 2010 and I fall into this category: http://gavinandresen.ninja/not-as-many-as-you-think

I'm a truly random person to the Bitcoin project and thus my messages with Satoshi were equally so. Perhaps I gained some insights that others did not in this regard.

"20/20 visions and murals with metaphors" ... ?

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LG7wo82ivs

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSGDEmS10yc


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: CoinClarity on December 05, 2018, 01:06:18 PM
Has anyone ever accused you of being Satoshi? If not, please allow me the honor of being the first!  :D

Actually, I think you are possibly the first individual to ask me this directly.

I'm not Satoshi. I've just been around since early 2010 and I fall into this category: http://gavinandresen.ninja/not-as-many-as-you-think

I'm a truly random person to the Bitcoin project and thus my messages with Satoshi were equally so. Perhaps I gained some insights that others did not in this regard.

I would say probably so as you were there as it was happening... your perspective on how things went down is different from people who can only absorb his conversations years afterward.

What's your take on his current "reappearance," referring to the new post on the P2P Foundation page? Probably meaningless, right?


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on December 05, 2018, 03:54:05 PM
Has anyone ever accused you of being Satoshi? If not, please allow me the honor of being the first!  :D

Actually, I think you are possibly the first individual to ask me this directly.

I'm not Satoshi. I've just been around since early 2010 and I fall into this category: http://gavinandresen.ninja/not-as-many-as-you-think

I'm a truly random person to the Bitcoin project and thus my messages with Satoshi were equally so. Perhaps I gained some insights that others did not in this regard.

I would say probably so as you were there as it was happening... your perspective on how things went down is different from people who can only absorb his conversations years afterward.

What's your take on his current "reappearance," referring to the new post on the P2P Foundation page? Probably meaningless, right?

Satoshi's email address for that P2P Foundation page / account is assumed compromised in 2014 ...

He (Theymos) suggests in that thread that the GMX address may have expired and been re registered, but there's no evidence to suggest that that's possible. I've had many GMX addresses over the years and don't think it is.

GMX is a total shitshow. In the aftermath of the satoshin@gmx.com hack, it was determined that GMX allowed/allows you to grab most accounts by merely brute-forcing the birthday -- this is the method that was probably used. Once that incident grabbed headlines, GMX disabled the account for a while, but someone was able to hack or register it again later (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2q0gtf/i_now_have_access_to_satoshi_nakamotos_email/). It's probably passed through several hands since then, nobody able to hold onto it for long because GMX is so full of holes. Never use GMX.

The P2Pfoundation account is already well-known to be hacked: it posted the "Your dox, passwords and IP addresses are being sold on the darknet" thing a while ago, though that post is now deleted. I kinda suspect that CSW doesn't actually control it, though, and is just trying to play along with "nour" like the idiot conman he is.

I'm currently undecided if the "nour" post has any relevance to anything Bitcoin or Satoshi, although I did find this ...

- http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/0ye0gncqg772o

- http://0ye0gncqg772o.com/

  :-\


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: irenegaming on December 05, 2018, 04:04:38 PM
What intrigues me is how are we going to know who Satoshi really is? he had remained quite anonymous for most of the time, and if we don't really know his identity how we can identify it, it could have been anyone with access to his account, although that's also hard to do.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: CoinClarity on December 05, 2018, 04:17:19 PM
I'm currently undecided if the "nour" post has any relevance to anything Bitcoin or Satoshi, although I did find this ...

- http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/0ye0gncqg772o

- http://0ye0gncqg772o.com/

  :-\

   Domain Name: 0YE0GNCQG772O.COM
   Registry Domain ID: 2207369105_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
   Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
   Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
   Updated Date: 2018-01-01T12:22:04Z
   Creation Date: 2018-01-01T12:18:35Z

I'm willing to bet "Satoshi" is going to come down on the side of Bitcoin SV... Just my hunch from what I've gathered so far. I also wonder what the significance was of adding his Brazilian/Japanese friend...

(ps: I don't believe any of this actually has to do with Real Satoshi)

Will be interesting to see what kind of publicity stunt this will be used for in 26 days.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Royal Jelly on December 05, 2018, 04:38:16 PM
I'm currently undecided if the "nour" post has any relevance to anything Bitcoin or Satoshi, although I did find this ...

- http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/0ye0gncqg772o

- http://0ye0gncqg772o.com/

  :-\

   Domain Name: 0YE0GNCQG772O.COM
   Registry Domain ID: 2207369105_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
   Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
   Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
   Updated Date: 2018-01-01T12:22:04Z
   Creation Date: 2018-01-01T12:18:35Z

I'm willing to bet "Satoshi" is going to come down on the side of Bitcoin SV... Just my hunch from what I've gathered so far. I also wonder what the significance was of adding his Brazilian/Japanese friend...

(ps: I don't believe any of this actually has to do with Real Satoshi)

Will be interesting to see what kind of publicity stunt this will be used for in 26 days.

A Satoshi is still anonymous to me, and it has nothing to do with Satoshi's real (Bitcoin SV). I think it's an invention that wants to develop in crypto, there are still many difficult to accept this, Satoshi is still anonymous.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nutildah on December 05, 2018, 04:43:16 PM
I'm willing to bet "Satoshi" is going to come down on the side of Bitcoin SV... Just my hunch from what I've gathered so far. I also wonder what the significance was of adding his Brazilian/Japanese friend...

(ps: I don't believe any of this actually has to do with Real Satoshi)

Will be interesting to see what kind of publicity stunt this will be used for in 26 days.

A Satoshi is still anonymous to me, and it has nothing to do with Satoshi's real (Bitcoin SV). I think it's an invention that wants to develop in crypto, there are still many difficult to accept this, Satoshi is still anonymous.

Right, he's not Craig Wright, but Craig Wright may have very well paid for access to the GMX address, P2P Foundation profile and @satoshi twitter handle in order to advance the narrative that he IS Satoshi to promote his dying fork of a fork.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on December 05, 2018, 04:44:43 PM
What intrigues me is how are we going to know who Satoshi really is? he had remained quite anonymous for most of the time, and if we don't really know his identity how we can identify it, it could have been anyone with access to his account, although that's also hard to do.

Satoshi could Sign and Verify messages from early blocks and/or Bitcoin Addresses (for example the Satoshi / Hal Finney transaction and/or the Genesis Block) ...

I recently signed a message from early blocks that I mined in 2010 ...

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4575874.msg41842581#msg41842581   :'(

Bitcoin is Financial Cryptography i.e. ... Don't trust. Sign and Verify. Not your keys, not your coins etc.,

Satoshi might also sign various PGP keys / messages in this regard, as further 'proof'.

I'd also like to think that some of the original Bitcoin folks (the ones with remaining integrity) would also be able to say, with a very high degree of certainty, that Satoshi is Satoshi, in this regard.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nutildah on December 05, 2018, 04:51:02 PM

I recently signed a message from early blocks that I mined in 2010 ...

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4575874.msg41842581#msg41842581   :'(


Wow that's pretty cool. Can't believe I didn't see that earlier. I tested it and it checks out.

Total Received   20,157.52001 BTC

You had quite the stash at one point!


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on December 05, 2018, 05:27:05 PM

I recently signed a message from early blocks that I mined in 2010 ...

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4575874.msg41842581#msg41842581   :'(


Wow that's pretty cool. Can't believe I didn't see that earlier. I tested it and it checks out.

Total Received   20,157.52001 BTC

You had quite the stash at one point!

Indeed. I have no reason to lie about anything. The Bitcoin blockchain (the Genesis block) will provide the truth, always.

Today, I genuinely only hold a couple of BTC (what I can afford). The last 10 years has been problematic for me, I've been to cautious in some respects. Things will change, they always do. My character resolve remains quite strong in this regard. :)

Anyone here ever talk to Satoshi on TorChat ?  :-*


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on December 05, 2018, 06:14:44 PM
KLF Return After 23 Years !!!!!
- https://youtu.be/O2xgxtr8O5M - GIMPO FTW !!!!!   :D   8)

- https://youtu.be/LXEOESuiYcA?t=2m50s

OK lets get a bit weird ...

- https://futurism.com/the-byte/klf-build-pyramid-cremated-fans

- https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/read-the-first-chapter-of-the-klfs-bonkers-new-book-2023-a-trilogy/ ...  :o

- Hannu Puttonen - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1160099/ ...

- The Code (2001) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0315417/

...

- https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block - Raw Block Data ...

00000000   01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
00000010   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
00000020   00 00 00 00 3B A3 ED FD  7A 7B 12 B2 7A C7 2C 3E   ....;z{.z,>
00000030   67 76 8F 61 7F C8 1B C3  88 8A 51 32 3A 9F B8 AA   gv.a..ÈQ2:
00000040   4B 1E 5E 4A 29 AB 5F 49  FF FF 00 1D 1D AC 2B 7C   K.^J)_I...+|
00000050   01 01 00 00 00 01 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
00000060   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
00000070   00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF  FF FF 4D 04 FF FF 00 1D   ......M...
00000080   01 04 45 54 68 65 20 54  69 6D 65 73 20 30 33 2F   ..EThe Times 03/
00000090   4A 61 6E 2F 32 30 30 39  20 43 68 61 6E 63 65 6C   Jan/2009 Chancel
000000A0   6C 6F 72 20 6F 6E 20 62  72 69 6E 6B 20 6F 66 20   lor on brink of
000000B0   73 65 63 6F 6E 64 20 62  61 69 6C 6F 75 74 20 66   second bailout f
000000C0   6F 72 20 62 61 6E 6B 73  FF FF FF FF 01 00 F2 05   or banks...
000000D0   2A 01 00 00 00 43 41 04  67 8A FD B0 FE 55 48 27   *....CA.gUH'
000000E0   19 67 F1 A6 71 30 B7 10  5C D6 A8 28 E0 39 09 A6   .gq0.\֨(9.
000000F0   79 62 E0 EA 1F 61 DE B6  49 F6 BC 3F 4C EF 38 C4   yb.a޶I?L8
00000100   F3 55 04 E5 1E C1 12 DE  5C 38 4D F7 BA 0B 8D 57   U...\8M..W
00000110   8A 4C 70 2B 6B F1 1D 5F  AC 00 00 00 00            Lp+k._....

- https://nationalpost.com/entertainment/sure-banksy-shredded-his-art-but-it-was-done-before-and-better-by-the-k-foundation

...

Total Information Awareness = Total Mythopia = Satoshi Nakamoto  ;D


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on December 05, 2018, 07:42:08 PM
I'm currently undecided if the "nour" post has any relevance to anything Bitcoin or Satoshi, although I did find this ...

- http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/0ye0gncqg772o

- http://0ye0gncqg772o.com/

  :-\

   Domain Name: 0YE0GNCQG772O.COM
   Registry Domain ID: 2207369105_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
   Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
   Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
   Updated Date: 2018-01-01T12:22:04Z
   Creation Date: 2018-01-01T12:18:35Z

I'm willing to bet "Satoshi" is going to come down on the side of Bitcoin SV... Just my hunch from what I've gathered so far. I also wonder what the significance was of adding his Brazilian/Japanese friend...

(ps: I don't believe any of this actually has to do with Real Satoshi)

Will be interesting to see what kind of publicity stunt this will be used for in 26 days.

- https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nour

"Romanian
Noun

nour m (plural nouri)

    (regional) Alternative form of nor"
...

"Etymology

From older nuar, nuăr, from Latin nūbilum, noun use of the neuter of the adjective nūbilus (cloudy), from Latin nūbēs, ultimately from Proto-Indo-European *(s)newdʰ- (to cover). Compare Aromanian nior, Italian nuvola, Friulian nl, Portuguese nuvem, Catalan nvol.
Pronunciation

    IPA(key): [nor]

nor m (plural nori)

   1. cloud"


"Veps
Etymology

Related to Finnish nuora.
Noun

nor

  1. string"


"Basque
Pronoun

nor

    who

        Nor da? ― Who is she? / Who is he?
        Ez nekien nor zinen. ― I didn't know who you were.
        Badakizu nor etorri den? ― Do you know who's comming?"
   :D

...

So, How long is a piece of cloud string ? ...

If hacker - they have a good sense of humour.

If actual Satoshi - epic.

U R Satoshi

NO U R
   :D ;D


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: tiktak89 on December 05, 2018, 09:16:15 PM
About the developer of bitcoin you can make as many legends. But I think it's all just talk and fake news. I don't think Satoshi will ever reveal his identity. It's not in his best interest.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Udrujec on December 05, 2018, 09:37:14 PM
For some reason I doubt very much that this news is true and Satoshi will ever reveal his identity. Hiding this fact is very important for bitcoin and its independence. Therefore, I am of the opinion that the name of the bitcoin developer will remain a secret forever.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: WebTera on December 05, 2018, 09:51:24 PM
I would love to read this book. But it is unlikely that she will ever appear. I think that the history of creation and the true identity of the creator of bitcoin technology will be hidden for a long time, and maybe never will be revealed.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Vlad2Vlad on December 05, 2018, 10:10:15 PM
I would love to read this book. But it is unlikely that she will ever appear. I think that the history of creation and the true identity of the creator of bitcoin technology will be hidden for a long time, and maybe never will be revealed.

She?  You made me pee. 


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on December 05, 2018, 10:34:23 PM
I would love to read this book. But it is unlikely that she will ever appear. I think that the history of creation and the true identity of the creator of bitcoin technology will be hidden for a long time, and maybe never will be revealed.

She?  You made me pee. 

- https://youtu.be/O17f3lB7BFY

Someone posted this on this forum years ago, then they also disappeared ...


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Vlad2Vlad on December 05, 2018, 11:22:53 PM

- https://youtu.be/O17f3lB7BFY

Someone posted this on this forum years ago, then they also disappeared ...

Hahaha.  That was a blast! 


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Idoe on December 06, 2018, 01:59:49 AM

- https://youtu.be/O17f3lB7BFY

Someone posted this on this forum years ago, then they also disappeared ...

Hahaha.  That was a blast! 

Many want to reveal Satoshi but remain anonymous, once they appear only to look for sensations and continue to disappear.
Really alarming, and did blast for a moment.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: ardhigalau on December 06, 2018, 02:15:31 AM
I think there are people or organizations that use the name Satoshi Nakamoto, by selling books about him. Never mind, we will know the truth later.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nutildah on December 06, 2018, 02:43:10 AM

KLF Return After 23 Years !!!!!
- https://youtu.be/O2xgxtr8O5M - GIMPO FTW !!!!!   :D   8)


That was entertaining to watch... Back in my high school and college days I was a big fan of them. I had the White Room and Chill Out on CD... The latter being one of my favorite ambient albums. I don't really understand the connection to Satoshi, unless you think of those two guys in Banksy (pretty sure its actually one of the Massive Attack guys -- the massive attack guy), but it was a good trip down memory lane.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on December 06, 2018, 01:10:07 PM

- https://youtu.be/O17f3lB7BFY

Someone posted this on this forum years ago, then they also disappeared ...

Hahaha.  That was a blast!  

This topic is going way off base!  :)

NOOR - https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Noor

i.e. "The number one princess in the world!" ... ?

This video was posted on this forum, before Satoshi left, so likely some people already new Satoshi would be leaving ...

I remember talk suggesting that Satoshi should create a new account. This was before Gavin arrived, I think. I will search for the link and who posted it - maybe it got deleted ?

The Disappearing of Hatsune Miku ~ Hatsune Miku Project DIVA Live - eng subs
- https://youtu.be/9LG7wo82ivs

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypton_Future_Media

Cultural coincidence's and more mythopia ?

Hal Finney even stated in this forum that he got the impression that he was communicating / working with a younger person from Japan.

'Satoshi' is a 'hologram' from a Cypherpunk puzzle i.e. 'Finding Satoshi' ...


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on December 06, 2018, 04:14:25 PM

KLF Return After 23 Years !!!!!
- https://youtu.be/O2xgxtr8O5M - GIMPO FTW !!!!!   :D   8)


That was entertaining to watch... Back in my high school and college days I was a big fan of them. I had the White Room and Chill Out on CD... The latter being one of my favorite ambient albums. I don't really understand the connection to Satoshi, unless you think of those two guys in Banksy (pretty sure its actually one of the Massive Attack guys -- the massive attack guy), but it was a good trip down memory lane.

Re-read : https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/read-the-first-chapter-of-the-klfs-bonkers-new-book-2023-a-trilogy/

It is full of Bitcoin references ... and remember that "The KLF have now left the building" ...

- https://youtu.be/LXEOESuiYcA?t=2m50s - Where's Wally?  :)

EDIT1: See my sig. or youtube for 'KLF at the Barbican 2K' NSFW. Bitcoin is almost the equivalent of Brass Band Music, marching along like The Pied Piper ...

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_brass_band

... "History ... Brass bands were a response to industrialisation, which produced a large working class population, technological advances in instrument design, and the mass production to manufacture and distribute the instruments." ...   ;)

...

Back to the topic (The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy / 42 references in the paper) ... "The White Room" ... The Total Perspective Vortex ...

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4575874.msg42315586#msg42315586

- https://youtu.be/QM0K4VODk8Q

From:
Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus (twitter.com)
- https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus/status/1018249107083874304

" You don't use keys to prove identity. Keys only prove access to keys. I find it remarkable how many so called security "experts" fail at this most basic of points.

A cryptographic key cannot prove identity. It only proves knowledge of the key and that is distinct from identity. "


...

True, but ... https://youtu.be/hl1nPssCL1E and https://youtu.be/lhMV37a7xmY

So, still ... Not your keys. Not your coins. (or just no access yet?!?).

Remember that CSW told everyone that he is Satoshi Nakamoto, then he failed to Sign any message as definitive proof, then he said he was just part of Satoshi, then he told Roger Ver in a more recent (and threatening) email (made public via twitter) that he is Satoshi (again!).

He also posted a tweet in an attempt to explain his own apparent 'God complex', in regards to this, as follows ...

- https://youtu.be/iuumnjJWFO4?t=176

- https://medium.com/@craig_10243/the-paradox-of-the-%C3%BCbermensch-4da7c1bcbd6c

In other words, CSW expects us to believe that he is Satoshi Nakamoto, because he tells us that he is and he expects that no one can prove otherwise...

...

@nutildah - Your response is great! It actually helps to clarify what I'm trying to present ...

'Satoshi Nakamoto', as a group of people or a single individual, have cultural / life experiences which would of influenced their (collective?) work on Bitcoin.

Essentially we can only ever know 7 things ... Who? When? Where? What? Which? Why? and How? ...

Examples ... Why does Bitcoin use an MIT license for the software? Did familiar / cultural experiences influence this choice? ...

1 - We know that Bitcoin (Cryptocurrency) has a history of development long before 2008 ...

- https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

2 - Most people assume that Lazzlo wanted to buy Pizza's for Bitcoin ... entirely under his own steam ... perhaps not so ...

- https://web.archive.org/web/20100327210623/http://www.bitcoin.org:80/faq

"What is Bitcoins value backed by?

Bitcoin is valued for the things it can be exchanged to, just like all the traditional paper currencies are.

When the first user publicly announces that he will make a pizza for anyone who gives him enough Bitcoins, then he can use Bitcoins as payment to some extent - as much as people want pizza and trust his announcement. A pizza-eating hairdresser who trusts him as a friend might then announce that she starts accepting Bitcoins as payment for fancy haircuts, and the value of the Bitcoin would be higher - now it would be backed by pizzas ''and'' haircuts. When Bitcoins have become accepted widely enough, he could retire from his pizza business and still be able to use his Bitcoin-savings."


Predates Lazlo's request. Fact. Oh, and fancy haircuts to!

I assert the Pizza is akin to Pablo's message, a hidden message in a song ...

- http://www.mit.edu/people/mattski/Grid/GridAlbums.html

            [Golden Dawn is 7:18, silence runs 7:19-8:20, then 8:21-
             9:37 (end) is what a (Select) review called 'Pablo's
             Message', a fellow leaving a message on an answering
             machine]

- https://youtu.be/LSGDEmS10yc?t=561 ... "and you've over done the pizza" ...

All a bit weird isn't it. Crazy coincidences. Yes us humans will see patterns where there are none whatsoever, but the really interesting thing about any Mythopia is that one or more of these said Myth's will likely carry some (cultural) truth or influence.

- https://youtu.be/FFvvLuomw0Y ... Same album ... notice how the guy on the 'e-Bango' does not really move. He just sits, he just 'HODL'S' ...

This is a Satoshi trait ?

...snip...

Here is a great example of this established mindset experience of an original cypherpunk, although I think we can safely assert that Satoshi Nakamoto is not Joey Allegra ...

The Money Machine
- https://moxie.org/stories/money-machine/

... "But Joey Allegra didn't make a move for any of it. In fact, he just sat down on the floor inside the money machine and stared out." ...

...

Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? Suspects, frauds and conspiracies on bitcointalk
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615

...

The PM's and text chats I shared with Satoshi (when he/she/they) were on this forum, made me believe that Satoshi was a single individual, if this is the case then I'd simply like to know that nothing untoward has happened. We shouldn't take kindly to liers, imposters or frauds.

My avatar is the Desert Punk for a good reason + it adds to the comedic effects.

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Punk

Zen Koan - "A person may appear a fool and yet not be one. He may only be guarding his wisdom carefully."   8)

Peace.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on December 07, 2018, 09:15:46 AM
Danger Mouse - Encore
- https://youtu.be/qFd1QvNPKmI

"We know its a true story because we made it up ourselves". - SWIM


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: AutoBlockX on December 07, 2018, 11:53:36 AM
Even if the creator of the Bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto does return, I dont think its going to affect the rate of the cryptocurrency. While the market is expected to grow and stabilize within the next couple of months, its probably not a lot to do with the developer. Moreover, I think this news is fake because why would the maker or makers return after such a long time?


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: FedorIzmailov on December 07, 2018, 12:02:43 PM
in order for it to spread it will have to cooperate with someone else but this is impossible since it can no longer be anonymous


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Marbelli on December 07, 2018, 12:26:52 PM
this would be the strongest news on the cryptocurrency market since its existence. but I don't think Satoshi will show his true face


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: CoinClarity on December 07, 2018, 02:40:22 PM

The PM's and text chats I shared with Satoshi (when he/she/they) were on this forum, made me believe that Satoshi was a single individual, if this is the case then I'd simply like to know that nothing untoward has happened. We shouldn't take kindly to liers, imposters or frauds.


Huh. That's interesting. So for you the theories that he is a consortium of multiple people don't really hold much water? My two favorite theories are that he is:

- a group of people working at/for the NSA
- a group of people working for hedge fund manager James Harris Simons (this one is courtesy of Phinnaeus Gage) -- after all, he's a highly secretive dude known for putting together terrific groups of minds, in order to make shit tons of money.

I'm just interested in the mystery of it all.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: St4yInTh3D4rk on December 07, 2018, 02:58:58 PM
Even if the creator of the Bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto does return, I dont think its going to affect the rate of the cryptocurrency. While the market is expected to grow and stabilize within the next couple of months, its probably not a lot to do with the developer. Moreover, I think this news is fake because why would the maker or makers return after such a long time?
I am not sure about this is true or fake but another news which I read someone pretends that he is satoshi nakamto but he proved that he is lying and as you said the returning on satoshi is not going to change anything but may built trust on people again which can increase the more people to enters into the market.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nutildah on December 07, 2018, 03:10:43 PM
Even if the creator of the Bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto does return, I dont think its going to affect the rate of the cryptocurrency. While the market is expected to grow and stabilize within the next couple of months, its probably not a lot to do with the developer. Moreover, I think this news is fake because why would the maker or makers return after such a long time?
I am not sure about this is true or fake but another news which I read someone pretends that he is satoshi nakamto but he proved that he is lying and as you said the returning on satoshi is not going to change anything but may built trust on people again which can increase the more people to enters into the market.

It turned out to be fake. The website originally referred to is now offline, and yes Craig Wright was proven to be an elaborate hoaxer. More recently, the @satoshi on twitter was also discredited, and his P2P Foundation profile is still hacked. Now you're up to date!


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Vlad2Vlad on December 07, 2018, 03:13:54 PM

It turned out to be fake. The website originally referred to is now offline, and yes Craig Wright was proven to be an elaborate hoaxer. More recently, the @satoshi on twitter was also discredited, and his P2P Foundation profile is still hacked. Now you're up to date!

Ive never seen proof of his p2p foundation account being hacked.  Just speculation. 


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nutildah on December 07, 2018, 03:20:16 PM

It turned out to be fake. The website originally referred to is now offline, and yes Craig Wright was proven to be an elaborate hoaxer. More recently, the @satoshi on twitter was also discredited, and his P2P Foundation profile is still hacked. Now you're up to date!

Ive never seen proof of his p2p foundation account being hacked.  Just speculation.  

I don't know how the P2P Foundation login process works exactly but what is known is that his satoshin@gmx.com was hacked (or recycled), and if he used that to sign up then he probably could have requested a password reset.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775174.0


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: startfirer on December 07, 2018, 03:35:46 PM
Bloomberg Fortune, today (or yesterday, depending on where you live):

"Unknown Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Might Be Writing a Book

Is the unknown creator of Bitcoin writing a book about it?

That could be concluded from a cryptic message posted Friday at a website possibly linked to Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym used by the person or people who released the original Bitcoin white paper in 2008."

read more: http://fortune.com/2018/06/30/satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-book/

Can someone kindly tell us what website they're talking about? Its not this one is it?
absolutely)


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: nutildah on December 13, 2018, 05:32:08 AM
Uh on, there's another contender for title of Satoshi that's thrown his hat into the ring:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5084077.0

@BitcoinFX I'd really like to get your take on this, as the oldest active member of the forum.

I'd never heard of this guy James Bowery before... https://twitter.com/jabowery

He's:

1. an ex computer programmer from Iowa
2. a white nationalist
3. an Alex Jones fan

He received the second transaction sent by Satoshi, after Hal Finney's famous first tx:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1DUDsfc23Dv9sPMEk5RsrtfzCw5ofi5sVW

As far back as I looked in his social media profiles he's been espousing bitcoin, but a decent theory is that it is actually this Bowery fellow posting on behalf of himself.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: glowing10 on December 13, 2018, 05:53:02 AM
Even if the creator of the Bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto does return, I dont think its going to affect the rate of the cryptocurrency. While the market is expected to grow and stabilize within the next couple of months, its probably not a lot to do with the developer. Moreover, I think this news is fake because why would the maker or makers return after such a long time?
I am not sure about this is true or fake but another news which I read someone pretends that he is satoshi nakamto but he proved that he is lying and as you said the returning on satoshi is not going to change anything but may built trust on people again which can increase the more people to enters into the market.

For me everything can change if it becomes a true news that Satoshi is back because suddenly everyone will be back in the market and buying will begin in large . This will build confidence in the market as Satoshi would definitely the point who can change the course from here.


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: Inosend on December 13, 2018, 06:45:33 AM
Where was he busy did he travel to another planet?  I don't suggest fortune, because with crypto fortune is assured


Title: Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune
Post by: BitcoinFX on December 29, 2018, 12:34:12 AM
...snip...

@BitcoinFX I'd really like to get your take on this, as the oldest active member of the forum.

...snip....

Not sure that I'm the oldest 'active' forum member, others were here before me, including some admin's.

...

I don't imagine Bowery is Satoshi. To many inconsistencies and again no hard proof whatsoever.

Bitcoin is for everyone who wants to use it. Satoshi is love and love ...

- https://youtu.be/HerpGwbLSM8

Coded language. Not false prophets.