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Title: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 07, 2018, 09:31:33 PM


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Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoinClever (https://twitter.com/CoinClever)
Github: https://github.com/Clever-Coin/clever (https://github.com/Clever-Coin/clever)
Website: http://clevercoin.uk/ (http://clevercoin.uk/)
Explorer: http://173.212.215.88:3071/ (http://173.212.215.88:3071/)
Whitepaper: http://clevercoin.uk/clever-whitepaper-1r2.pdf (http://clevercoin.uk/clever-whitepaper-1r2.pdf)


Clever Coin Specifications
==========================
Symbol: CLVR
Algorithm: C11
Total Max Supply: 100,000,000 CLVR
Block Spacing: 60 seconds
Difficulty POW: DGW3
Difficulty POS: SeeSaw
Masternode: 20,000 CLVR
Pre-allocation: 1% (1M CLVR, for Masternode operators and bounties)

Clever Coin Technology
==========================
  • Hybrid PoW/PoS Masternodes
  • Stealth addresses
  • Encrypted Messaging
  • Multi-Signature Addresses & TXs
  • Fast 60 Second Block Times
  • New C11 PoW Algorithm for PoW
  • SHA256d Algortihm for PoS Hybrid
  • Full Decentralization

Roadmap
==========================
July 2018
  • Clever Coin creation & launch
  • Social media accounts
  • Website
  • ANN on bitcointalk altcoin forum
  • Masternode presale
  • List on exchange
  • List on masternodes.online
  • Submit to wallet apps

Q3-4 2018
  • Clever Marketplace mobile app
  • Clever Coin swap to marketplace chain
  • Increase exchange support

Community Bounties
==========================
  • Community moderator -- contact us for bounty info
  • Advisor -- contact us for bounty info
  • Coin explorer creation -- 4000
  • Masternode guide -- 2000
  • Youtube custom video -- 500
  • Translation for ANN -- 200
  • Twitter follow + like + retweet -- 200
  • Invite to Discord -- 5
  • Free CLVR for joining Discord -- 5





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Code:
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Discord: https://discord.gg/ns6HJMh
Beginner info: https://mining.saltpool.net



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Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoinClever (https://twitter.com/CoinClever)
Github: https://github.com/Clever-Coin/clever (https://github.com/Clever-Coin/clever)
Website: http://clevercoin.uk/ (http://clevercoin.uk/)
Explorer: http://173.212.215.88:3071/ (http://173.212.215.88:3071/)
Whitepaper: http://clevercoin.uk/clever-whitepaper-1r2.pdf (http://clevercoin.uk/clever-whitepaper-1r2.pdf)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: irreg on July 07, 2018, 09:38:52 PM
Welcome everyone!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: deebosch on July 07, 2018, 09:39:59 PM
Mine Clever-Coin on Evil Pool (http://www.evil.ru/site/mining)

https://evil.ru/images/base/EVILRU-250.png (http://www.evil.ru/site/mining)

Code:
-a c11 -o stratum+tcp://evil.ru:3573 -u Your-Clever-Wallet -p c=CLVR

Payouts every hour, 0.5% fee

Discord support channel (https://discord.gg/uXavU9v)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Miiike on July 07, 2018, 10:04:37 PM
The self-claimed "first decentralized marketplace" is not really accurate, FYI. I've read and watched several project that adopt the concept of marketplace on cryptocurrency with their own added value. Anyway, let's start from the basic: team?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: WindPool on July 07, 2018, 10:48:39 PM
res for pool


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: irreg on July 07, 2018, 10:50:08 PM
Github updated   :o

Releases updating now...


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 07, 2018, 11:01:54 PM
Explorer is live http://173.212.215.88:3071/ (http://173.212.215.88:3071/)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: dkbit98 on July 07, 2018, 11:03:58 PM
One more crypto marketplace.

What is advantage of using Clever
and not other marketplaces ?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: irreg on July 07, 2018, 11:14:40 PM
Explorer is live http://173.212.215.88:3071/ (http://173.212.215.88:3071/)

looks good!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 07, 2018, 11:17:46 PM
We are fully integrating our token into the marketplace, not just for buyers & sellers, but for masternode owners as well. Our platform sets up a complete CLVR ecosystem, providing value to miners, masternode holders, and merchants alike. Our 1-click "Convert Earnings" feature will allow sellers to quickly and easily convert their sales into cash.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Waves Plus on July 07, 2018, 11:20:10 PM
wallet not working ???


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: irreg on July 07, 2018, 11:25:48 PM
wallet not working ???

Which OS? And what is error?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Twinkledoe on July 07, 2018, 11:26:56 PM
The self-claimed "first decentralized marketplace" is not really accurate, FYI. I've read and watched several project that adopt the concept of marketplace on cryptocurrency with their own added value. Anyway, let's start from the basic: team?

Yes, it's not even correct that they are claiming that. So many projects have been doing that a long time ago. But, anyway, that's their marketing strategy, up to the user if they will believe all the things here. The team is nowhere to be found.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 07, 2018, 11:47:47 PM
We have adjusted this claim. While we do believe that we are the first to implement the token in the way that we are doing it, our "world's first" claim has been removed.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: irreg on July 07, 2018, 11:49:13 PM
The self-claimed "first decentralized marketplace" is not really accurate, FYI. I've read and watched several project that adopt the concept of marketplace on cryptocurrency with their own added value. Anyway, let's start from the basic: team?

Yes, it's not even correct that they are claiming that. So many projects have been doing that a long time ago. But, anyway, that's their marketing strategy, up to the user if they will believe all the things here. The team is nowhere to be found.

Maybe "first of its kind" would have been better worded  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: protopool-net on July 07, 2018, 11:56:59 PM
CLEVER on PROTOPOOL.NET

Code:
-a c11 -o stratum+tcp://eu1.protopool.net:3543 -u WALLET -p c=CLVR

Low fee - 0.5%
Payouts every 1 hour.
Fast and stable mining pool.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Saimabutterfly on July 07, 2018, 11:59:48 PM
Can you please add the wallet link. currently i cant find a link to the wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: irreg on July 08, 2018, 12:03:01 AM
Can you please add the wallet link. currently i cant find a link to the wallet.

https://github.com/Clever-Coin/clever/releases


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 08, 2018, 12:28:57 AM
Updated with new discord link https://discord.gg/5dUtCfS (https://discord.gg/5dUtCfS)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Skyyat on July 08, 2018, 12:47:20 AM
german translation reserved


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 08, 2018, 12:58:08 AM
german translation reserved

Great, thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 08, 2018, 04:14:52 AM
There is a known issue running the wallet on Windows 10. We are working on it and will release an update as soon as possible.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: saltpool on July 08, 2018, 09:03:00 AM
https://saltpool.net/images/saltpool-med-trans.png
Mine at SALTPOOL
https://saltpool.net

Payouts are made automatically every 1 hour.
Minimum payout 0.01 CLVR!
AUSTRALIAN BASED

Stratum settings:
GPU: -a c11 -o stratum+tcp://saltpool.net:3574 -u <WALLET_ADDRESS> -p c=CLVR
Discord: https://discord.gg/ns6HJMh
Beginner info: https://mining.saltpool.net

Working Windows wallet available from Saltpool discord.



Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: andregunja on July 08, 2018, 10:07:32 AM
Very interesting project i want to support your do you have any special promotions dev ?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 08, 2018, 04:07:27 PM
New Windows wallet being released now. Tested and confirmed working in Windows 10. Remaining binaries will be released shortly, after testing.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Miiike on July 08, 2018, 04:42:24 PM
The self-claimed "first decentralized marketplace" is not really accurate, FYI. I've read and watched several project that adopt the concept of marketplace on cryptocurrency with their own added value. Anyway, let's start from the basic: team?

Yes, it's not even correct that they are claiming that. So many projects have been doing that a long time ago. But, anyway, that's their marketing strategy, up to the user if they will believe all the things here. The team is nowhere to be found.

Yes, I can fully understand and accept that it is a mere marketing words, completely acceptable. But I somehow got an impression that they deliberately ignore my question about team, they're online, and even can make a post directly above this post, but they somehow missed this issue although it's been brought to their attention by two (you and me) different members


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: irreg on July 08, 2018, 05:01:03 PM
All new binaries are uploading now.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: irreg on July 08, 2018, 06:12:09 PM
Very interesting project i want to support your do you have any special promotions dev ?

We have many bounties, and even 5 coins just for joining Discord


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 08, 2018, 08:06:04 PM
OSX binaries released


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Twinkledoe on July 08, 2018, 11:07:45 PM
The self-claimed "first decentralized marketplace" is not really accurate, FYI. I've read and watched several project that adopt the concept of marketplace on cryptocurrency with their own added value. Anyway, let's start from the basic: team?

Yes, it's not even correct that they are claiming that. So many projects have been doing that a long time ago. But, anyway, that's their marketing strategy, up to the user if they will believe all the things here. The team is nowhere to be found.

Yes, I can fully understand and accept that it is a mere marketing words, completely acceptable. But I somehow got an impression that they deliberately ignore my question about team, they're online, and even can make a post directly above this post, but they somehow missed this issue although it's been brought to their attention by two (you and me) different members

If they decide to stay anonymous, their project will gain credibility thru time so this will be years in the making, if ever they will sustain the battle in crypto. Most of the weak projects here don't even last for 6 months, after the pump ndump in exchanges, they're gone. How soon will that happen here?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: grendel25 on July 09, 2018, 03:43:51 AM
The self-claimed "first decentralized marketplace" is not really accurate, FYI. I've read and watched several project that adopt the concept of marketplace on cryptocurrency with their own added value. Anyway, let's start from the basic: team?

Yes, it's not even correct that they are claiming that. So many projects have been doing that a long time ago. But, anyway, that's their marketing strategy, up to the user if they will believe all the things here. The team is nowhere to be found.

Yes, I can fully understand and accept that it is a mere marketing words, completely acceptable. But I somehow got an impression that they deliberately ignore my question about team, they're online, and even can make a post directly above this post, but they somehow missed this issue although it's been brought to their attention by two (you and me) different members

If they decide to stay anonymous, their project will gain credibility thru time so this will be years in the making, if ever they will sustain the battle in crypto. Most of the weak projects here don't even last for 6 months, after the pump ndump in exchanges, they're gone. How soon will that happen here?

Yeah, that seems to be what it boils down to.  I was thinking of arguments in favor of pre-sale nodes that we've seen with other recent project which mostly pointed to various Legendary btc-talk members voicing support for the project.  It would be nice to see something like that here but it doesn't seem like that is happening and if that wasn't thought of then this is poor planning from the start.  Decentralization is great and all but starting something off like this while also assuring trust is the tricky part and I don't see much indication that such things were considered so far...

The algo seems good and so far the project leads chat nice but all that still doesn't give this legs.  yep... slow burner here more than likely

Clever is a good name which is more than I can say for a lot of recent coin releases.  could be interesting.  I would use a service like this.  But I think what's more likely is crypto being used in places like ebay and craigslist.  CL already allows users to specify crypto as a payment option.  I've expressed that option on CL a few times but no takers so far.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Panrado on July 09, 2018, 05:48:24 AM
The most interesting project to date! very much attracted someone else's attention! I'm a part of! And recommend to everyone! Very interesting and creative project! This project will achieve great victories! Good luck.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Na xter on July 09, 2018, 07:21:02 AM
Great job with grwat team work and with full effort. I appreciated really


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: UNICLIFE on July 09, 2018, 03:01:26 PM
Good luck with your project :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 10, 2018, 04:07:49 AM
Thanks to our new designer, our app has been given a face lift! Very happy with the new look!

http://clevercoin.uk/images/app-prv-2.png#2


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: junforever on July 10, 2018, 05:15:47 AM
If you have a bounty available for spanish translation or for promoting your project (in english and/or spanish crypto channels) I would like to be part of it, this is my portfolio and my previous works and the list of crypto channels where I can promote your project

http://bit.ly/2HvGwNx

Please let me know if you are interesting with a pm, thanks and good luck with your project!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Na xter on July 10, 2018, 06:31:58 AM
The project seems quite promising! Interesting website, watchful results, amazing idea!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Gabriellla on July 10, 2018, 08:44:22 AM
I love this project and I recommend that you highly invest in it. There exist a solid and a supportive community behind this project,


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Miiike on July 10, 2018, 03:59:45 PM

Yeah, that seems to be what it boils down to.  I was thinking of arguments in favor of pre-sale nodes that we've seen with other recent project which mostly pointed to various Legendary btc-talk members voicing support for the project.  It would be nice to see something like that here but it doesn't seem like that is happening and if that wasn't thought of then this is poor planning from the start.  Decentralization is great and all but starting something off like this while also assuring trust is the tricky part and I don't see much indication that such things were considered so far...

The algo seems good and so far the project leads chat nice but all that still doesn't give this legs.  yep... slow burner here more than likely

Clever is a good name which is more than I can say for a lot of recent coin releases.  could be interesting.  I would use a service like this.  But I think what's more likely is crypto being used in places like ebay and craigslist.  CL already allows users to specify crypto as a payment option.  I've expressed that option on CL a few times but no takers so far.

I thought some member with higher ranks are paid to promote those projects by saying they're supporting the project, or had some talk with the team, etc? Because I saw once a legendary said he had a good discussion with a team and deemed the project to be very worthy. The project is scam. And the said legendary member didn't even make clarification about his previous statement.

While for this project, I really started to doubt their worth and professionalism. They, once again disregard any of our posts, popping out to inform some new design. Definitely a red flag


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: surinserver on July 10, 2018, 05:27:18 PM
Can you please add the wallet link. currently i cant find a link to the wallet.

https://github.com/Clever-Coin/clever/releases (https://mega.nz/#F!cmZXDQDb!HnZ-RcE7MzbSr_jvN9nh5A)

So these are the latest wallets as of now?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 10, 2018, 05:47:01 PM

Yeah, that seems to be what it boils down to.  I was thinking of arguments in favor of pre-sale nodes that we've seen with other recent project which mostly pointed to various Legendary btc-talk members voicing support for the project.  It would be nice to see something like that here but it doesn't seem like that is happening and if that wasn't thought of then this is poor planning from the start.  Decentralization is great and all but starting something off like this while also assuring trust is the tricky part and I don't see much indication that such things were considered so far...

The algo seems good and so far the project leads chat nice but all that still doesn't give this legs.  yep... slow burner here more than likely

Clever is a good name which is more than I can say for a lot of recent coin releases.  could be interesting.  I would use a service like this.  But I think what's more likely is crypto being used in places like ebay and craigslist.  CL already allows users to specify crypto as a payment option.  I've expressed that option on CL a few times but no takers so far.

I thought some member with higher ranks are paid to promote those projects by saying they're supporting the project, or had some talk with the team, etc? Because I saw once a legendary said he had a good discussion with a team and deemed the project to be very worthy. The project is scam. And the said legendary member didn't even make clarification about his previous statement.

While for this project, I really started to doubt their worth and professionalism. They, once again disregard any of our posts, popping out to inform some new design. Definitely a red flag

I understand that there have been many scam coins, but that doesn't mean they all are. I fail to see how demonstrating progress on the project is a red flag. On the contrary, failure to do so should be a warning sign.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 10, 2018, 05:49:58 PM
Can you please add the wallet link. currently i cant find a link to the wallet.

https://github.com/Clever-Coin/clever/releases

So these are the latest wallets as of now?

At the moment, yes. We are working on improvements and bug fixes, specifically with Windows wallets (visual bugs), and will release them after proper testing. They are functionally sound, though.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: surinserver on July 10, 2018, 06:10:36 PM
Can you please add the wallet link. currently i cant find a link to the wallet.

https://github.com/Clever-Coin/clever/releases (https://mega.nz/#F!cmZXDQDb!HnZ-RcE7MzbSr_jvN9nh5A)

So these are the latest wallets as of now?

At the moment, yes. We are working on improvements and bug fixes, specifically with Windows wallets (visual bugs), and will release them after proper testing. They are functionally sound, though.

Allright, thanks. The project looks nice, I wish you the best of luck!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 10, 2018, 06:45:27 PM
Can you please add the wallet link. currently i cant find a link to the wallet.

https://github.com/Clever-Coin/clever/releases (https://mega.nz/#F!cmZXDQDb!HnZ-RcE7MzbSr_jvN9nh5A)

So these are the latest wallets as of now?

At the moment, yes. We are working on improvements and bug fixes, specifically with Windows wallets (visual bugs), and will release them after proper testing. They are functionally sound, though.

Allright, thanks. The project looks nice, I wish you the best of luck!

Thank you!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 10, 2018, 10:02:21 PM
Whitepaper has been published. http://clevercoin.uk/clever-whitepaper-1r2.pdf


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 11, 2018, 01:57:08 AM
Don't miss the CLVR giveaway, hosted by @Cryptoyologang! 5 people will each win 1,000 CLVR!

https://twitter.com/Cryptoyologang/status/1016851376272392192 (https://twitter.com/Cryptoyologang/status/1016851376272392192)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Miiike on July 11, 2018, 06:18:22 AM
I understand that there have been many scam coins, but that doesn't mean they all are. I fail to see how demonstrating progress on the project is a red flag. On the contrary, failure to do so should be a warning sign.

True, demonstrating progress of a project (on this case, informing a sneak peek of new design) is not a red flag at all, but demonstrating it but failed to answer repetitive question on previous page can be regarded as an evasion, and the evasion itself is alarming.

Nevertheless, thank you for attending me, allow me to repeat my question about your team details, can I know who works and back up this project?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 11, 2018, 02:46:52 PM
I understand that there have been many scam coins, but that doesn't mean they all are. I fail to see how demonstrating progress on the project is a red flag. On the contrary, failure to do so should be a warning sign.

True, demonstrating progress of a project (on this case, informing a sneak peek of new design) is not a red flag at all, but demonstrating it but failed to answer repetitive question on previous page can be regarded as an evasion, and the evasion itself is alarming.

Nevertheless, thank you for attending me, allow me to repeat my question about your team details, can I know who works and back up this project?

Many projects do not do team reveals. It is the right of the people involved in the project to not have their names, faces, and personal details published. Some of our team does not wish to have their information published, and we will respect their right to privacy.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: grendel25 on July 11, 2018, 10:02:26 PM
I understand that there have been many scam coins, but that doesn't mean they all are. I fail to see how demonstrating progress on the project is a red flag. On the contrary, failure to do so should be a warning sign.

True, demonstrating progress of a project (on this case, informing a sneak peek of new design) is not a red flag at all, but demonstrating it but failed to answer repetitive question on previous page can be regarded as an evasion, and the evasion itself is alarming.

Nevertheless, thank you for attending me, allow me to repeat my question about your team details, can I know who works and back up this project?

Many projects do not do team reveals. It is the right of the people involved in the project to not have their names, faces, and personal details published. Some of our team does not wish to have their information published, and we will respect their right to privacy.

"Some of our team does not wish to have their information published, and we will respect their right to privacy."

So that means that "some" of your team are okay with having "their" information published.  Let's start there.  Who on your team has been identified since they are okay with it? 


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 12, 2018, 12:14:38 AM
I understand that there have been many scam coins, but that doesn't mean they all are. I fail to see how demonstrating progress on the project is a red flag. On the contrary, failure to do so should be a warning sign.

True, demonstrating progress of a project (on this case, informing a sneak peek of new design) is not a red flag at all, but demonstrating it but failed to answer repetitive question on previous page can be regarded as an evasion, and the evasion itself is alarming.

Nevertheless, thank you for attending me, allow me to repeat my question about your team details, can I know who works and back up this project?

Many projects do not do team reveals. It is the right of the people involved in the project to not have their names, faces, and personal details published. Some of our team does not wish to have their information published, and we will respect their right to privacy.

"Some of our team does not wish to have their information published, and we will respect their right to privacy."

So that means that "some" of your team are okay with having "their" information published.  Let's start there.  Who on your team has been identified since they are okay with it? 

I appreciate what you're trying to do, but this will be an endless debate. We will not be doing a team reveal at this time. Our work speaks louder than our names.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Miiike on July 12, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Many projects do not do team reveals. It is the right of the people involved in the project to not have their names, faces, and personal details published. Some of our team does not wish to have their information published, and we will respect their right to privacy.

Yes, many projects decide to hide their team's ID, but do anyone take note that from those "many projects" only few really succeeded on delivering products while other disintegrated into thin air alongside with the investor's fund? And those that succeeded are those that has solid team, and that tried to "compensate" their decision of staying hidden by giving their fullest to answer questions and banish every doubt as soon as they can. But I can not agree more on what you said on a post above me, that works speak louder than names. Hopefully your work in the future can help compensating this decision, because up to this point your action is almost (IMO) next to poor and I can not see why an investor is advised to consider your project on their portfolio.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: grendel25 on July 12, 2018, 04:47:04 PM
Many projects do not do team reveals. It is the right of the people involved in the project to not have their names, faces, and personal details published. Some of our team does not wish to have their information published, and we will respect their right to privacy.

Yes, many projects decide to hide their team's ID, but do anyone take note that from those "many projects" only few really succeeded on delivering products while other disintegrated into thin air alongside with the investor's fund? And those that succeeded are those that has solid team, and that tried to "compensate" their decision of staying hidden by giving their fullest to answer questions and banish every doubt as soon as they can. But I can not agree more on what you said on a post above me, that works speak louder than names. Hopefully your work in the future can help compensating this decision, because up to this point your action is almost (IMO) next to poor and I can not see why an investor is advised to consider your project on their portfolio.

I tend to agree and at the same time I'm also optimistic for this coin because of a few things.  Of course, the few things I'm positive about (mainly algorithm and distribution framework...oh and the name) may not be enough to garner further investments.

What we so far is a god algo/distribution.. and name.  The business plan is pretty good to but we don't really get a sense for details regarding disputes.  Sure, blockchain can handle -some- disputes but definitely not all disputes and if that's all there is to this approach for dispute resolution well... that doesn't lead to a lot of assurance for those who may consider using the platform.

So yeah, those details could be worked out.  Not a big deal.  However, it is an unknown at this point and this means more RISK.

There have been a few masternodes sold in the presale and the team needs more sales to meet near-term goals.  So far, there is clearly interest and some people have made high-risk investments towards this platform.  It also seems pretty small-ish that there aren't more high risk investors eating this up.  It's a very competitive space right now.  Very saturated with new projects. 

For now, we see imagery but no evidence of a real platform working on any real device.  We see what the platform might look like but for now it doesn't really exist.  Maybe it will.  This is the high risk part.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 12, 2018, 10:08:23 PM
Many projects do not do team reveals. It is the right of the people involved in the project to not have their names, faces, and personal details published. Some of our team does not wish to have their information published, and we will respect their right to privacy.

Yes, many projects decide to hide their team's ID, but do anyone take note that from those "many projects" only few really succeeded on delivering products while other disintegrated into thin air alongside with the investor's fund? And those that succeeded are those that has solid team, and that tried to "compensate" their decision of staying hidden by giving their fullest to answer questions and banish every doubt as soon as they can. But I can not agree more on what you said on a post above me, that works speak louder than names. Hopefully your work in the future can help compensating this decision, because up to this point your action is almost (IMO) next to poor and I can not see why an investor is advised to consider your project on their portfolio.

I tend to agree and at the same time I'm also optimistic for this coin because of a few things.  Of course, the few things I'm positive about (mainly algorithm and distribution framework...oh and the name) may not be enough to garner further investments.

What we so far is a god algo/distribution.. and name.  The business plan is pretty good to but we don't really get a sense for details regarding disputes.  Sure, blockchain can handle -some- disputes but definitely not all disputes and if that's all there is to this approach for dispute resolution well... that doesn't lead to a lot of assurance for those who may consider using the platform.

So yeah, those details could be worked out.  Not a big deal.  However, it is an unknown at this point and this means more RISK.

There have been a few masternodes sold in the presale and the team needs more sales to meet near-term goals.  So far, there is clearly interest and some people have made high-risk investments towards this platform.  It also seems pretty small-ish that there aren't more high risk investors eating this up.  It's a very competitive space right now.  Very saturated with new projects. 

For now, we see imagery but no evidence of a real platform working on any real device.  We see what the platform might look like but for now it doesn't really exist.  Maybe it will.  This is the high risk part.

Thank you for this feedback. You are absolutely correct -- blockchain will not solve all disputes. It is just a vital component that we believe will help with resolution of many issues. We are actively working on a revision to our white paper, and will be sure to expand on this in the next release. The feedback is valuable, and very much appreciated.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: WhiskeyGinger on July 12, 2018, 10:12:56 PM
What is the estimated date of pre-sale, please?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: grendel25 on July 12, 2018, 11:12:44 PM
What is the estimated date of pre-sale, please?

Masternode presales are occurring now.  You can look in the original post and go to their discord for more info on that.  If you were thinking ICO... my understanding is that this is not an ICO type of project.  It is an interesting idea though to consider integrating POW as well as ICO strategy. 


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 13, 2018, 01:31:16 AM
What is the estimated date of pre-sale, please?

Pre-sale is happening now


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 13, 2018, 01:42:44 AM
What is the estimated date of pre-sale, please?

Masternode presales are occurring now.  You can look in the original post and go to their discord for more info on that.  If you were thinking ICO... my understanding is that this is not an ICO type of project.  It is an interesting idea though to consider integrating POW as well as ICO strategy. 

You are correct, this is not an ICO.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: WhiskeyGinger on July 15, 2018, 07:49:22 PM
What is the estimated date of pre-sale, please?

Masternode presales are occurring now.  You can look in the original post and go to their discord for more info on that.  If you were thinking ICO... my understanding is that this is not an ICO type of project.  It is an interesting idea though to consider integrating POW as well as ICO strategy. 
It is definitely not the ICO. I meant masternode pre-sale! Thank you for response!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 15, 2018, 07:52:44 PM
What is the estimated date of pre-sale, please?

Masternode presales are occurring now.  You can look in the original post and go to their discord for more info on that.  If you were thinking ICO... my understanding is that this is not an ICO type of project.  It is an interesting idea though to consider integrating POW as well as ICO strategy.  
It is definitely not the ICO. I meant masternode pre-sale! Thank you for response!

Pre-sale goals were not met. We are restructuring the project, and will re-launch as an ICO. Updated website, whitepaper, and roadmap will be released shortly. Members who purchased MNs have been contacted, and we will be swapping an equivalent number of tokens to those members at launch.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRE-SALE][POW/POS] Clever - Decentralized Blockchain Marketplace Platform
Post by: Clever-Coin on July 20, 2018, 07:03:22 PM
ICO sale is live!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4713369 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4713369)