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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Hellmouth42 on July 12, 2018, 06:00:54 PM



Title: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: Hellmouth42 on July 12, 2018, 06:00:54 PM
Some Red flags about UPFINEX, future exchange.

The ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4378343.0
Bounty thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4421799.0
BM: Barbie Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=927216)

The WP: https://upfinex.com/Whitepaper_Upfinex.pdf (18 pages)

The project itself is transparent and little documented, full of general concepts and keywords, but it is insufficient we agree...
I'm not going to go very far on purpose, I just want to make three points:

The Linkedin profiles of the 4 main executives have disappeared.

Zhong Jinhai CEO & Lead Blockchain https://www.linkedin.com/in/zhong-jinhai-79b708164/
Gong Huang Fu CTO & Senior Developer https://www.linkedin.com/in/g%C5%8Dng-huang-fu-97096b163/
Su Zhìxin Blockchain App Developer https://www.linkedin.com/in/su-zh%C3%ACxin-79a947164/
Hao Cheng
Community Management https://www.linkedin.com/in/hao-cheng-25b95b164/

It's not very reassuring, but it's not enough too.
Well, of course Google doesn't learn anything about these brilliant professionals who seem to appear from nothing

Ah yes, it is possible to learn that Su Zhìxin
(Blockchain App Developer) is....a great man!  8)

https://i.imgur.com/SRYPcmA.png

FALSE IDENTITY

But let's talk about Hao Cheng, "Bounty Manager".
It seems he has a double life at Indiana University
https://i.imgur.com/jPfKg4p.png
https://i.imgur.com/AXLU5tU.png

I asked onTelegram:
https://i.imgur.com/IOiy8Ah.png


FALSE PARTNERSHIP:

But above all, cherry on the cake, UpFinex claims to have a partnership with Blockchain Partner...
It's a big French company that I know well: it seemed very surprising to me so I asked them the question.
Here is their reaction

https://i.imgur.com/P07h9S4.png



I stop there, I think it's enough..











Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: Hellmouth42 on July 12, 2018, 06:11:26 PM
The real M.K Shin has just answer me: He confirms the identity theft and explains that he has just made contact with UpFinex

https://i.imgur.com/mFUdMtC.png


Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: icomasterether on July 12, 2018, 06:45:29 PM
Thank you - leaving Bounty program and removing tweets asap ..


Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 12, 2018, 06:55:59 PM
I tagged the upfinex account but not the bounty manager.  Hopefully he'll see this thread and end the bounty himself.  I don't see how this couldn't be a scam with identity theft.  I'll give him 24 hours to respond, and if he doesn't stop the bounty I'll give him a neg.

Edit:  I sent the BM a PM about this, asking him to respond here.


Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: Hellmouth42 on July 12, 2018, 07:19:49 PM
Thanks The Pharmacist for your efficiency.

Indeed the situation is a little more complicated concerning the responsibility of the Bounty Manager.
There's a real debate.

However, my opinion is that the sector is becoming more professional, making money...BM have a moral responsibility and should take 1 hour on their time (like ordinary members do, for free) to do some checking with basic tools...


Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: timerland on July 12, 2018, 11:34:41 PM
LinkedIn profiles on the team page is deleted as well.

Anyways, there is pretty much zero chance that this project would be legitimate considering that they literally ripped off images of so called "team members" and took one step further - created completely fake personas, LinkedIn profiles, and telegram profiles for them. Definitely constitutes identity theft at this stage.

Nice find on the partnership as well. As a general rule, I always research about any partnerships before believing in any of that. Most of the times, the partnership is unconfirmed or just completely fabricated. Misleading advertising at best, but probably a complete scam.


Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: Hellmouth42 on July 13, 2018, 03:20:16 PM
I tagged the upfinex account but not the bounty manager.  Hopefully he'll see this thread and end the bounty himself.  I don't see how this couldn't be a scam with identity theft.  I'll give him 24 hours to respond, and if he doesn't stop the bounty I'll give him a neg.

Edit:  I sent the BM a PM about this, asking him to respond here.

Some news of the BM, "BarbieCasino" ?


Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: anobtc on July 13, 2018, 05:04:49 PM
Thank you Hellmouth42, I just received a pm from BarbieCasino about the translation of this project, and I can save my time for something like this.


Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: Hellmouth42 on July 13, 2018, 05:35:17 PM
Seriously ? So she actually search for other translators for this scam project ??
If it's not indiscreet when was the message sent?


Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: anobtc on July 13, 2018, 05:49:14 PM
Seriously ? So she actually search for other translators for this scam project ??
If it's not indiscreet when was the message sent?
Sorry for this misunderstood, she sent me a pm at 08:17:37 AM yesterday (12 Jul) - Your thread started at 6 pm the same day and i checked my messengers at 02:04:19 AM today. Yes i said that "I just received" which mean i I just checked my inbox  ::) So i can't say that she still looking for other translators, maybe she has never read this thread. But we need an answer from her.  ;D


Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 13, 2018, 05:56:48 PM
Seriously ? So she actually search for other translators for this scam project ??
If it's not indiscreet when was the message sent?
Sorry for this misunderstood, she sent me a pm at 08:17:37 AM 2 days ago (12 Jul) - Your thread started at 6 pm the same day and i checked my messengers at 02:04:19 AM today. Yes i said that "I just received" which mean i I just checked my inbox  ::) So i can't say that she still looking for other translators, maybe she has never read this thread. But we need an answer from her.  ;D
I sent BarbieCasino this PM yesterday:
Please respond to the scam accusation against upfinex: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4656917.new#new

Thank you.
There's been no response to either my PM or in this thread.  As of now, 24 hours later, the bounty thread is still up and people are still posting all of their social media shit.  I'm leaving a negative on BarbieCasino now.


Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: kuchimen on July 14, 2018, 08:30:59 AM
Thank you for your research! I will stop bounty right now and delete all of tweet of it scam!


Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: BarbieCasino on July 14, 2018, 11:12:58 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4421799.msg39426741#msg39426741




Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: BarbieCasino on July 14, 2018, 11:49:38 AM
https://i.imgur.com/KhIDPHm.png

https://i.imgur.com/KaC9llv.png



Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: BarbieCasino on July 14, 2018, 11:54:35 AM
Seriously ? So she actually search for other translators for this scam project ??
If it's not indiscreet when was the message sent?
Sorry for this misunderstood, she sent me a pm at 08:17:37 AM 2 days ago (12 Jul) - Your thread started at 6 pm the same day and i checked my messengers at 02:04:19 AM today. Yes i said that "I just received" which mean i I just checked my inbox  ::) So i can't say that she still looking for other translators, maybe she has never read this thread. But we need an answer from her.  ;D
I sent BarbieCasino this PM yesterday:
Please respond to the scam accusation against upfinex: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4656917.new#new

Thank you.
There's been no response to either my PM or in this thread.  As of now, 24 hours later, the bounty thread is still up and people are still posting all of their social media shit.  I'm leaving a negative on BarbieCasino now.
Due to some illness I was not online yesterday and I came online today. I am closing this thread and informing all the members to leave sharing this project as it is a scam.

Thanks for informing us about it.
thanks Hellmouth42 i send you 3 merit


Title: Re: "UpFinex ICO", SCAM Alert - False Team, identity theft and false partnership
Post by: The Cryptovator on July 14, 2018, 01:23:00 PM
Well catch. We need more people to identify such as project to save people money. Same thing are repeating most of ICO. All are using fake team. They just come on market to scam people. Good job keep it up.