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Title: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: rearwheels on October 03, 2011, 02:38:15 AM
Hi guys,

I had 1 5870 and 1 5970 fans making weird noise (bad), so I decided to search for replacement fans, and also to perform some maintenance on the cards.
Other than replacing the fans, I found that some thermal pads were breaking apart, thus I got replacement thermal pads and thermal glue to glue the thermal pads to the heatsink/cover of the cards.

Things I bought:
1. Replacement fans from (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10330120683) (cheaper source: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10794821928)
2. Thermal pads from (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/heat-sink-thermal-silicone-paste-10cm-10cm-0-1cm-35819)
3. Thermal glue from (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/fujik-silicone-thermal-glue-50ml-grease-like-4579)

The main problem was getting the replacement fans. These are from China, and they accept various forms of payment that are only available in China, though I think they ship worldwide.
RMB$50 should work out to be about US$8 (back of envelope calculation).

I tried to use Alipay and other forms of payment with my credit card (I'm in asia, not china), and none of my credit cards worked (ok, I only tried 2, as those are the 2 I expose to internet purchases). So I used a concierge service which bought the items on my behalf, paid for it, got it shipped to their office and then they shipped it to me. In the end, I paid about US$12 each including the service charges of the concierge. It took about 3 weeks.

The 3 weeks wait was fine, as the items from Dealextreme took about the same time.

I'm not writing a step-by-step guide here, just to share some information on what I found out.

So here goes the pics:

Ordered 4 replacements
http://www.btc-poolwatch.com/public/images/ref_fans_pack.jpg



Old (left), New(Right)
http://www.btc-poolwatch.com/public/images/ref_fans_diff.jpg



Thermal paste/glue
http://www.btc-poolwatch.com/public/images/ref_fans_thermal_paste.jpg



Thermal Pads
http://www.btc-poolwatch.com/public/images/ref_fan_thermal_pad.jpg



Thermal Pads (Parts to replace)
http://www.btc-poolwatch.com/public/images/ref_fan_thermal_pad_01.jpg


Thermal Pads (longer piece is done)
http://www.btc-poolwatch.com/public/images/ref_fan_thermal_pad_02.jpg



Remember to glue down the wire here
http://www.btc-poolwatch.com/public/images/ref_fans_glue_down.jpg


That's all.


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: vapourminer on October 04, 2011, 12:04:17 AM
Ive wondered where to get replacement GPU fans too, but the couple times Ive killed them I just go with straight aftermarket cooling. your way is way cheaper though. gotta remember that link.

but one question.. why the thermal glue? why not standard thermal paste. I use artic cooling MX2 with better than stock results. done like 6 GPU cards with it so far.


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: haploid23 on October 05, 2011, 07:40:11 PM
i'm in the US. any way to get one or two of those? i don't think people here in the US can go through the check out process on that website


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: mikeo on October 05, 2011, 09:08:28 PM
i'm in the US. any way to get one or two of those? i don't think people here in the US can go through the check out process on that website
Agree, also in US. Someone needs to import these in quantity and resell to US customers at a reasonable profit.


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: rearwheels on November 10, 2011, 03:36:05 PM
Ive wondered where to get replacement GPU fans too, but the couple times Ive killed them I just go with straight aftermarket cooling. your way is way cheaper though. gotta remember that link.

but one question.. why the thermal glue? why not standard thermal paste. I use artic cooling MX2 with better than stock results. done like 6 GPU cards with it so far.

The thermal glue is to glue the thermal pads to the metal casing. The VRMs will sandwich the thermal pads to transfer the heat to the casing.

I guess it's not obvious that the thermal pads do not have a sticky side.

I use proper cpu thermal compound for the gpu to heatsink contact. :)


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: vapourminer on November 12, 2011, 03:27:18 PM
The thermal glue is to glue the thermal pads to the metal casing. The VRMs will sandwich the thermal pads to transfer the heat to the casing.

I guess it's not obvious that the thermal pads do not have a sticky side.

ah, I get it now. the times Ive had to redo nvidia cards with thermal pads they were still sticky enough (apparently the stock pads on the the nvidia folding cards Ive done this to may be different) to keep and just reuse.


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: ssateneth on November 12, 2011, 11:18:10 PM
The new one looks a little smaller... Also says it uses less amps which means lower rpm... Is there a higher amperage one somewhere? I can't read chinese.

Also have you considered buying a lot and selling them to other miners whos fans have died out on them?


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: deslok on November 14, 2011, 03:17:51 AM
The new one looks a little smaller... Also says it uses less amps which means lower rpm... Is there a higher amperage one somewhere? I can't read chinese.

Also have you considered buying a lot and selling them to other miners whos fans have died out on them?

Less amperage does not necessarily indicate a lower rpm fan it could be an induction of a higher quality motor.


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: rearwheels on November 14, 2011, 08:13:56 AM
The thermal glue is to glue the thermal pads to the metal casing. The VRMs will sandwich the thermal pads to transfer the heat to the casing.

I guess it's not obvious that the thermal pads do not have a sticky side.

ah, I get it now. the times Ive had to redo nvidia cards with thermal pads they were still sticky enough (apparently the stock pads on the the nvidia folding cards Ive done this to may be different) to keep and just reuse.

Actually it's the replacement thermal pads which does not come with a sticky side.


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: rearwheels on November 14, 2011, 08:24:21 AM
The new one looks a little smaller... Also says it uses less amps which means lower rpm... Is there a higher amperage one somewhere? I can't read chinese.

Also have you considered buying a lot and selling them to other miners whos fans have died out on them?

The size is exactly the same (all mounting holes fits as well). Only the specs of the motor/fan is different.

Though I've not checked the rpm difference of before and after. I installed it and it kept the card cool. That's good enough :D

I really do not want to be a middle man for this, I'm sure that's someone staying in China who can co-ordinate this.


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: ssateneth on November 15, 2011, 02:35:43 AM
The new one looks a little smaller... Also says it uses less amps which means lower rpm... Is there a higher amperage one somewhere? I can't read chinese.

Also have you considered buying a lot and selling them to other miners whos fans have died out on them?

The size is exactly the same (all mounting holes fits as well). Only the specs of the motor/fan is different.

Though I've not checked the rpm difference of before and after. I installed it and it kept the card cool. That's good enough :D

I really do not want to be a middle man for this, I'm sure that's someone staying in China who can co-ordinate this.


Theres some fans which seem to be the same on ebay, but the markup is outrageous. They want $22 and $30 per fan.


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: ssateneth on November 16, 2011, 12:56:46 PM
I need a 5870 fan now. :/


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: chunglam on December 02, 2011, 01:44:51 PM
Thanks for this "not a guide" ;). I have two 5870 fan failed last week and follow the link buy ten pieces of replacement fans from the link (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10330120683) provided by OP. Cost me RMB$488 plus RMB$35 shipping(~USD$67). Finished the replacement work last night, now all my rigs are working at full speed ;D


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: rearwheels on December 02, 2011, 01:55:24 PM

Damn...you are going to hate me now. I did a search on taobao and found this:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10794821928

RMB$16 each.  :-\


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: chunglam on December 02, 2011, 02:03:46 PM
At least the one by your link is proven ;), thanks.


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: mikeo on December 18, 2011, 11:47:15 PM
Is there a link to US (or eBay) source for this fan yet?


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: epsillion on December 23, 2011, 04:53:16 AM
Here is a link to ebay for the same fan i believe

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/75mm-ATI-Radeon-Video-Card-Fan-Replacement-37mm-4Pin-D7525B12HP-0-C01-12V-0-94A-/180779041435?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a1745429b


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: PatrickHarnett on December 23, 2011, 10:01:06 PM
I did a fan replacement today, but I tend to use fans from the GPUs that have previously died.  Today it was an XFX card to Sapphire 5970 (the only reason I kept the xfx one was for the fan replacement).

There are some shortcuts once you get all the screws identified.  Remember the two little screws above the output connectors, and the four hex bolts.  There are something like 34 screws in total to remove (I haven't counted properly.)

I've never had a problem with VRMs and leave the original sticky in place.

For the thermal paste, I did some research on this a year ago and have this tip: use the existing paste, but refresh it with mineral oil.  I use tiny amount of spray on CRC (WD40?), mix it with a toothpick or similar and reset the heatsink.  I've done this regularly with GPUs and CPUs and it works very well.


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: max in montreal on January 02, 2012, 01:35:24 AM
Here is a link to ebay for the same fan i believe

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/75mm-ATI-Radeon-Video-Card-Fan-Replacement-37mm-4Pin-D7525B12HP-0-C01-12V-0-94A-/180779041435?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a1745429b

need one but just ordered 4...ill keep you up to date.


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: max in montreal on January 13, 2012, 02:41:30 PM
got all 4 2 days ago, will replace a few tonight.


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: bulanula on January 13, 2012, 03:13:03 PM
got all 4 2 days ago, will replace a few tonight.

Why bother with replacing fans and not get an aftermarket cooler ?

Aftermarket cooler :

-much cooler so more OC and stability
-less noisy
-easy to work on if fans die ( unlikely with aftermarket fans ) compared to hassle of stock cooler + fan
 


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: Littleshop on January 13, 2012, 03:32:59 PM
I have reference fans in stock, am located in the USA and take bitcoin as payment. 

http://cryptoanarchy.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=66


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: Littleshop on January 13, 2012, 03:36:34 PM
got all 4 2 days ago, will replace a few tonight.

Why bother with replacing fans and not get an aftermarket cooler ?

Aftermarket cooler :

-much cooler so more OC and stability
-less noisy
-easy to work on if fans die ( unlikely with aftermarket fans ) compared to hassle of stock cooler + fan
 

Depending on the rig, aftermarket can be better or worse.  In open frame rigs they are better, in closed case rigs they are worse.   I know of no aftermarket fan that routes the heat of the GPU right outside of the case. 

Aftermarket kits are usually much more expensive. 


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: max in montreal on January 15, 2012, 05:34:43 AM
All I needed to do was replace one fan. Done and the fan is excellent. Aftermarket cooler probably work well but I was satisfied with the  stock fan, plus it was a hell of a lot cheaper.


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: abracadabra on April 26, 2012, 01:45:11 AM
This helped me with replacing a fan on a 5870.  I ordered the wrong fan and had to cut the tab that holds down the wires.  Some epoxy helped.  ;D


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: johnyj on April 26, 2012, 12:23:19 PM
Best time to replace the thermal grease on GPU with liquid ultra, dropped temp on my GPU for almost 5c degrees compared with as5 before


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: Landstander on March 11, 2013, 12:23:45 AM
Sorry for bumping such an old post, but I wanted to thank the OP for the links to the thermal pads and glue they used. I had 2 5970s die on me after getting clogged with bacon grease (small apartment + paleo diet + open case, should have known  ::) ). When I cleaned them I removed the pads and thought I could just use some thermal paste, but of course it's not thick enough to make contact with the heatsink. I was unsure which pads would be thick enough for this, so thanks for pointing me in the right direction!


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: jdat on March 15, 2013, 01:06:17 AM
Why not just get an aftermarked cooler?


Title: Re: Replacing ATI 58xx/5970 Ref cards' fan (not a guide)
Post by: Landstander on March 22, 2013, 08:55:38 PM
Why not just get an aftermarked cooler?

I can't find any for the 5970 that are still available for purchase. If you know of any, do tell!