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Title: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: BitcoinPorn on October 03, 2011, 07:23:25 PM http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2011/10/03/bitcoin_badge.jpg?t=1317660371&s=3
Quote In 2009, a programmer who called himself "Satoshi Nakamoto" created bitcoin. The virtual currency took off, but Satoshi's identity has remained a mystery. The journalist Joshua Davis tries to track down Satoshi in an article (subscription req'd) in this week's New Yorker. Whoever created bitcoin, it's clear that he (or she, or they) is/are a very clever coder with a deep understanding of cryptography. An expert tells the New Yorker writer that someone with Satoshi's skills would probably be at Crypto2011, the most important cryptography conference. The writer also notes that Satoshi typically uses British (rather than American) spellings. So he narrows the field to people from the UK at Crypto2011. He finds one compelling candidate: A guy named Michael Clear. After I read the article this morning, I called Gavin Andresen, a programmer who has done a lot of work on bitcoin, and who we talked to at length when we did a bitcoin story earlier this year. I asked Gavin if Michael Clear is Satoshi. "I have no idea," Gavin told me. "It could be." Clear was named the top computer-science undergrad at Trinity College in Dublin in 2008. He worked for Allied Irish Banks to improve its currency-trading software in 2009. Also that year, he co-wrote a paper on peer-to-peer technology. (Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer system.) So Davis, the author of the New Yorker story, emails Clear. "I like to keep a low profile," Clear replies. "I'm curious to know how you found me." Davis eventually cuts to the chase: Finally, I asked, "Are you Satoshi?" He laughed, but didn't respond. There was an awkward silence. "If you like, I'd be happy to review the design for you," he offered instead. "I could let you know what I think." "Sure," I said hesitantly. "Do you need me to send you a link to the code?" "I think I can find it," he said. In the end, Clear says he's not the guy — but his denial leaves the door open just a crack: "I'm not Satoshi," Clear said. "But even if I was I wouldn't tell you." One other interesting detail: Clear says the bitcoin code is good, but there are some weaknesses. Users store their bitcoins in virtual wallets; the system should automatically provide encryption software to secure those virtual wallets, Clear says. I didn't bring this detail up when I talked to Gavin today. But when I asked him about news from the bitcoin world, he told me that the latest version of the bitcoin software includes wallet encryption. - From NPR http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/10/03/141011155/did-a-reporter-just-solve-the-bitcoin-mystery from /r/Bitcoin/ http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/kzmpj/did_a_reporter_just_solve_a_bitcoin_mystery/ Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: bulanula on October 03, 2011, 07:28:07 PM Holy cow ! This is huge news. I feel Jesus has descended amongst us !!! No, really ;D
Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: S3052 on October 03, 2011, 07:32:48 PM wow! so what it the truth now? is Clear Satoshi or not?
Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: DeathAndTaxes on October 03, 2011, 07:34:24 PM Awesome for Clear to not provide any clarity at all.
Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: jago25_98 on October 03, 2011, 07:34:52 PM Don't think so:
Quote o Davis, the author of the New Yorker story, emails Clear. "I like to keep a low profile," Clear replies. "I'm curious to know how you found me." Davis eventually cuts to the chase: Finally, I asked, "Are you Satoshi?" He laughed, but didn't respond. There was an awkward silence. ^ awkward silence doesn't really work over email. Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 03, 2011, 07:35:51 PM Way is the time stamp on this New Yorker article date Oct. 10, 2011?: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/10/10/111010fa_fact_davis
Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: BitcoinPorn on October 03, 2011, 07:37:54 PM Way is the time stamp on this New Yorker article date Oct. 10, 2011?: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/10/10/111010fa_fact_davis Quick, get them to tell us who wins the big game this weekend! I think the hard copy date for the magazine is the 10th or something. Edit: Black Metal Article from The New Yorker From the Future http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2011/10/10/111010crmu_music_frerejones Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: sadpandatech on October 03, 2011, 07:38:10 PM I think we should all wear Bitcoin badges that proclaim, "I am the Satoshi Nakamoto"(tm).
or "I am not Satoshi. But if I were I wouldn't tell you!"(tm) Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 03, 2011, 07:56:12 PM I want to be Clear! I did not create Bitcoin.
http://www.blooddirtandangels.com/wp-content/uploads/ao_blood/2011/06/PeopleCaughtShapeshiting-1.jpg And, PG, don't even try to link me to Freddy Mercury while playing armchair detective. Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: beckspace on October 03, 2011, 08:03:19 PM Satoshi would not be first concerned about user encryption wallet, just like Gavin told at the NY conference.
Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: bulanula on October 03, 2011, 08:05:42 PM Satoshi would not be first concerned about user encryption wallet, just like Gavin told at the NY conference. He would be concerned about how to dump the rest of the coins on the market without anybody noticing :) Just like the 20k dump a week ago :o Whoever he is, he is LOADED >:( !!! Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: Littleshop on October 03, 2011, 08:10:29 PM Satoshi would not be first concerned about user encryption wallet, just like Gavin told at the NY conference. He would be concerned about how to dump the rest of the coins on the market without anybody noticing :) Just like the 20k dump a week ago :o Whoever he is, he is LOADED >:( !!! We can tell which coins Satoshi mined in the beginning. We can tell if they move. Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: beckspace on October 03, 2011, 08:11:54 PM He would be concerned about how to dump the rest of the coins on the market without anybody noticing if only he knows a flaw in the code. Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: bulanula on October 03, 2011, 08:13:33 PM Satoshi would not be first concerned about user encryption wallet, just like Gavin told at the NY conference. He would be concerned about how to dump the rest of the coins on the market without anybody noticing :) Just like the 20k dump a week ago :o Whoever he is, he is LOADED >:( !!! We can tell which coins Satoshi mined in the beginning. We can tell if they move. Whatever, he is still going to be LOADED when he cashes out. Even if he only does 1000 BTC at a time etc. and transfers it to different addresses to obfuscate the laundering etc. Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: evoorhees on October 03, 2011, 08:19:24 PM Satoshi would not be first concerned about user encryption wallet, just like Gavin told at the NY conference. He would be concerned about how to dump the rest of the coins on the market without anybody noticing :) Just like the 20k dump a week ago :o Whoever he is, he is LOADED >:( !!! We can tell which coins Satoshi mined in the beginning. We can tell if they move. Whatever, he is still going to be LOADED when he cashes out. Even if he only does 1000 BTC at a time etc. and transfers it to different addresses to obfuscate the laundering etc. For some people, "cashing out" happened when they got rid of their fiat currency for something better. For some people, there is little desire to exchange this valuable currency for the play-money of governments. Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: gnar1ta$ on October 03, 2011, 08:26:42 PM For some people, "cashing out" happened when they got rid of their fiat currency for something better. For some people, there is little desire to exchange this valuable currency for the play-money of governments. But play-money of governments buys more stuff - and people need stuff. When do you think I can buy gas and groceries with my Bitcoins? Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: bulanula on October 03, 2011, 09:19:48 PM For some people, "cashing out" happened when they got rid of their fiat currency for something better. For some people, there is little desire to exchange this valuable currency for the play-money of governments. But play-money of governments buys more stuff - and people need stuff. When do you think I can buy gas and groceries with my Bitcoins? Exactly. Most miners cash out ASAP as their things are confirmed etc. ! Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: dunand on October 03, 2011, 10:11:28 PM Satoshi told Andresen that he wanted to work on another project.
This maybe the other project : http://www.impartio.com/team.php Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2011, 10:13:33 PM Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: bulanula on October 03, 2011, 10:17:29 PM LOL epic ! Let us hope he does not cash out ASAP now he has been uncovered ! Always knew he was from the UK. Who else reads the times !?!? LOL nice one mates ! Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: bulanula on October 03, 2011, 10:29:00 PM Don't think so: Quote o Davis, the author of the New Yorker story, emails Clear. "I like to keep a low profile," Clear replies. "I'm curious to know how you found me." Davis eventually cuts to the chase: Finally, I asked, "Are you Satoshi?" He laughed, but didn't respond. There was an awkward silence. ^ awkward silence doesn't really work over email. LOL The bigger LOL is when he cashes out after the scheme is uncovered and the baby Jebus is found :) Who cashed out 20k last week ? Must have been him too seems he likes living the good life lucky on him 8) Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: gusti on October 03, 2011, 10:31:19 PM Granted, our hero is not that stupid. There is not a single possibility that Satoshi is being discovered by a journalist because he wrote in british style.
Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: meanig on October 03, 2011, 10:33:44 PM Always knew he was from the UK. Dublin is not in the UK. Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 03, 2011, 10:52:28 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland
Quote The country is highly ranked for press freedom, economic freedom and democracy and political freedom. Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: ineededausername on October 03, 2011, 11:07:13 PM Somebody should make a tshirt with this. You know, kind of like Che tshirts except for libertarians. Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: dunand on October 04, 2011, 01:11:56 AM Michael Clear put a message on is university page.
http://www.dsg.cs.tcd.ie/Michael.Clear => http://www.scss.tcd.ie/~clearm/bitcoin.html This is the last message I'm posting about him. If he wants to be be low profile that's ok. He did enough for Bitcoin already. :) Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: BitcoinPorn on October 04, 2011, 01:15:08 AM This poor guy is going to be hounded for quite a while I bet :(
Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: jwzguy on October 04, 2011, 01:17:44 AM Um, so he thinks the fact someone's using British spellings means they are from the UK? He didn't think maybe there were a few people from the UK employed teaching English in other countries? :P
Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: ctoon6 on October 04, 2011, 02:09:53 AM your wrong, I AM SATOSHI NAKAMOTO.
but to be serious, if his real identity is found, gradz. Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: racerguy on October 04, 2011, 05:17:47 AM is "bloody hard" a phrase Americans use? It's used a bit here in Australia and maybe UK though I'm not sure.
Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: d.james on October 04, 2011, 06:51:28 AM Leave Satoshi ALONEEEEE
Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: m0w3r on October 04, 2011, 07:30:50 AM This guy, Michael Clear, is a little too young to be Satoshi, no? Just graduating as an undergrad in 2008? Well, it's possible certainly, but I had thought Satoshi was ~30yo. Some of Satoshi's forum posts also appear a bit more mature than undergraduate posting, but you never know I guess.
Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: ribuck on October 04, 2011, 08:56:08 AM Bitcoin was Satoshi's passion, not his career. Satoshi succeeded because he was a generalist, an all-rounder, someone who had a great understanding of crypto, but also of economic reality and software construction.
I think anyone who attends a specialist cryptography conference is not going to be Satoshi. Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: Elwar on October 04, 2011, 09:50:55 AM It is better that there is no human face to Bitcoin. That is what they are trying to do.
If you can put a face to Bitcoin you can slander that face and create guilt by association for anyone who uses Bitcoins. "Bitcoin, a cryptocurrency created by a sexual deviant, is getting a lot of attention lately" "Bitcoin, a hair brained scheme devised by a man with a history of deception, has been growing in popularity among unsuspecting investors." etc. Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: ribuck on October 04, 2011, 10:34:35 AM It is better that there is no human face to Bitcoin. Until they are ready to award Satoshi the Nobel Prize for Economics.Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: julz on October 04, 2011, 10:50:44 AM Apparently the 2nd 'suspect' is from Finland - so the New Yorker story has hit the Finnish press (tietoviikko.fi - A Finnish IT magazine)
(sorry for the google-translated title) Quote Finnish researchers suspected Bitcoin-inventor of money [2011-10-04 http://www.tietoviikko.fi/kaikki_uutiset/suomalaista+tutkijaa+epaillaan+bitcoinrahan+keksijaksi/a697067 http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tietoviikko.fi%2Fkaikki_uutiset%2Fsuomalaista%2Btutkijaa%2Bepaillaan%2Bbitcoinrahan%2Bkeksijaksi%2Fa697067&act=url "This suspect is a 31-year-old Finnish Technology Research Institute researcher George Lehdonvirta . He has studied virtual currencies, and he is a programmer background. He is also involved in other things, privacy issues, focused on the Electronic Frontier Finlandin (Effi) operation." Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: TiagoTiago on October 04, 2011, 10:57:51 AM It is better that there is no human face to Bitcoin. Until they are ready to award Satoshi the Nobel Prize for Economics.Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: Rassah on October 04, 2011, 03:07:09 PM your wrong, I AM SATOSHI NAKAMOTO. The great Satoshi would know how to spell "you're" correctly ::) Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: cablepair on October 04, 2011, 03:21:39 PM That story was lame and does not prove anything. If he was Satoshi - He would not of done the interview at all.
Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: freequant on October 04, 2011, 04:43:58 PM Satoshi knows that search is a hard problem, but verification is trivial.
I think if he really was Satoshi, he would not have tried to deny it. Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: Bitcoin Oz on October 04, 2011, 04:58:15 PM If you have any copies of code this guy has written youd be able to tell by its fingerprints. People tell me that is as distinctive as a fingerprint.
Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: Dansker on October 04, 2011, 05:01:04 PM Title promises more than article can deliver.
Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: BitcoinPorn on October 04, 2011, 05:45:12 PM Title promises more than article can deliver. NPR did the play it safe blogger route, make the headline a question, you can state anything. I've noticed journalism going toward shitty practices like this for a while now, but you need to keep readers somehow. Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: evoorhees on October 04, 2011, 05:49:37 PM Don't think so: Quote o Davis, the author of the New Yorker story, emails Clear. "I like to keep a low profile," Clear replies. "I'm curious to know how you found me." Davis eventually cuts to the chase: Finally, I asked, "Are you Satoshi?" He laughed, but didn't respond. There was an awkward silence. ^ awkward silence doesn't really work over email. LOL If you read the article, he was actually speaking with him face to face. He had emailed him to set up a meeting. So, an awkward silence at that meeting was quite possible =) Title: Re: [NPR] Did A Reporter Just Solve A Bitcoin Mystery? - Satoshi Found? Post by: m0w3r on October 04, 2011, 10:03:02 PM Zero attendance of people with English accents to CryptoCon 2012.
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