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Lets take litecoin, currently at a 500,000,000 USD market cap within 3 years. With the current rate of money flowing into the markets, NXT could very well be the next in line to surpass the 500 million mark due to technical aspects and never-ending features.


Now, a lot of altcoins die because of the lack of support from BCT mainly. One of the most fundamental market trends happen here on BCT. By now, the majority of us have invested in NEM, which will greatly enhance support and awareness of NEM.


(approx) 3000 initial stakeholders divided up (evenly i'm guessing) = approximately 1,333,333 NEM Per stake holder.
If NEM ever went to a dollar, we'd be all be millionaire's.






If you believe in a $10,000 Bitcoin, then a 1 dollar NEM wouldn't be too far off either, because of NXT, POS and all the hot features. But, this is all speculation and some fun dreaming. 4 billion market cap could very well happen in 1-5 years from now and depending how well the developing/marketing etc happen.





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Hi, can you tell us more, make a little analysis that leads you to this conclusion?
Could be an interesting topic  8)

done, added a lot of speculation to spice things up

Yes.
We do not know much about technical aspects of NEM yet, which I think are important, but just having more than 1000 unique veteran BTT users on board already is never before seen innovation. I imagine that around million units of NEM will turn every one of those often talented and capable people into dedicated members of community - an enormous driving force behind NEM. Cant wait to see, what will happen after distribution.

I can tell it to you.

NEM will be cheap. Not because of lack of popularity but because of distribution. With so high number of stakeholders with similar amounts there will be nothing like pathetic NXT trust selling 1800 times more expensive than IPO. I think the initial price wont go higher than 2 or 3 times of IPO what is acceptable gain for taking the risk. Then it may grow up very slowly however there would be nobody who can say: "i was unable to board the train at fair price". This will make NEM very popular and it may shake with NXT because only foools can buy it for today price. NXT will go much much cheaper and then the time will show which one will go more popular.

i just heard about NEM, how can i invest in the NEM ipo ? please let me know thanks !

The advantage of NEM is that more persons were able to take the IPO-train.
NXT had only about 70 stakeholders.
Most of them - I believe - are holding millions of coins still today.
So there are many who think NXT is unfair to everybody except these stakeholders - they are getting richer and richer…all others have just a very small piece of this whole NXT-cake and remain poor.

So there will be a bigger acceptance of NEM in commonality.

really sorry man, but IPO just finnished.

Horse shit.

NXT was fairly distributed, people bought in and got what they put in.
NEM on the other hand is filled with thousands of fake accounts. I want NEM to succeed, but it will only happen if Utopian demands proof (facebook for instance) before handing out NEM

The thousand of fake accounts may be an adventage in the end. People will not behave oppresive and skimp on every NEM. For the price it will be a negative fact in short term but very positive for NEM. What is cheap has a good chance to spread up.

Ha ha! NXT  distribution ,plenty of smoke and mirrors to fool peeps of what really happened

It seems that someone unnamed created 1 Billion of these NXT coins and gave them away to 71 other people, though, where is the proof that these 71 individuals are actually real and not a close group of friends of the developer with 71 different forum aliases?

just one quote to inform  the masses

NEM will never reach any value.

Developers are not honest, they delete even post with mild critics from their thread, no discussion possible there.

There are also other informations that bring me to the conclusion:

NEM is a SCAM !!

This is a Big Nxt holder running scared.......get ready for NEM people........it will be HUGE...!!!!!!

NEM = the definition of a ponzi sceheme. Sold like an IPO. Should be a currency.  ::)
Please don't buy this coin, you will hurt yourself. And please ponzi scheme creators go cirlejerk somewhere else than Bitointalk

you'd be too late anyway
and if your still not convinced check out the DEV-plan.

This awesome! Glad I got into the IPO for free  :P

With coins of this nature distribution is one of the key elements. Sure, there are probably plenty of fake NEM stakeholders, but there are still a ton of genuine people involved.

NXT certainly has a lot of interesting features. I'd prefer to buy into an offshoot that actually made a concerted effort as to how it was initially spread around.

There is - or will be - one POS coin with real fair distribution only ..... Mintcoin! You can still mine it for some weeks, then it changes to 99.9 % POS.

NEM just cant make sure it has fair distribution, or any real distribution at all, so it will fail. You can come around any test they will or will not do, one person can have 10 stakes or more easily. This cant happen with Mintcoin.

I love it when Nxt guys freak out. It's actually very funny.

They are here trashing NEM?

That's even more funny!!

 ;D ;D ;D

Man, you brought too many hardcore facts, I`m sold.  ;D

what makes you think giving coins to miners is fair distribution? believe it or not miners are not even 0.001% of the worlds population....and among that 0.001%....just a few with insane rigs get the lionshare....the rest scramble for peanuts.
Nxt IPo was open to all...anyone could have invested...and the total amount was fair (bCNext only asked 21 btc in total- which is more than fair considering he invented  the best cryptoprotocol to date).
Nem tries some equal mass distribution thing so the coin will be lanched by thousands  of equal stake holders.... unlike Nxt which had only 72 ppl...although i believe it has been good for Nxt in the long run as those big stakeholders really believed in the potential and have funded many projects....while many Nem holders  may just want to pump and dump. we'll see how it pans out.

I would venture to guess that 3000 or really 1500 unique stakeholders is much better than 70

Just a guess

Just maybe LOL  ;D ;D ;D

believe it or not, you can also buy it, its already exchanged
everyone can get an account and can buy, everyone can see prices and coin distribution is transparent
no shady IPO or Premine needed - perhaps not as fair as possible, but lightyears ahead NXT or NEM.

well, I cannot see any fact-based argument in what you wrote... but what I can see is only bitterness, envy maybe...  don't you think? ;) :D

Im not so sure about $1 anytime soon???
But I can see $.01 soon

depends on how the word "soon" is understood :) for example, guys,  what are your expectations by the end of 2014?

I don't dare to mention any exact price but I'm very optimistic about all this :)

This! Before you choose any clone of Nxt, rather than Nxt itself, ask yourself is there any logical reason to do that! Nxt was designed very very well. BCnext didn't "just" release it. He knew what he was doing and planned it precisely. Think about that ;)

Of course, the making of NXT is truly a big new thing in the world of crypto - but don't forget - there are about 71 stakeholders.
Probably they are holding still today the biggest piece and will dump that coin, if NXT rise to a certain value.

So guys don't forget this, before you think NEM is SCAM.

NEM is equal in regard of NXT and in addition to a growing community , I see a fair traded and accepted coin in the crypto-market.

It would be cool if develop a module for reception of money in the online store.
I would have made the ie-shop.

not sure what you're trying to imply there... ;) anyway, i hope that you noticed the information that NEM is being written completely from scratch...

I can confirm that!

Nem would be written completly from zero, and NOT will be any clone!!!

+1

maybe it is time not to compare NEM with Nex.
NEM is said to be written from scratch, right?

As far as I know, NEM is built on NXT source code. NEM was created by NXT developers and improves some aspects, but it is not writte n from scratch.

scratch, check it out

well.... it was just kind of released.  it is still even hard to get a good wallet working.  so yeah, it hasn't even really reached out of alpha yet.  regardless, I agree nxt is revolutionary and awesome and am hopeful that there might be a way for NEM and NXT to coexist, but ultimately, one will be better than the other. 

i think you will find there are a few like mint much older and even more distributed.

ADT, TIX, CGB,  and a lot more


new wave

mint, black, and another couple

I have no doubt Nxt will be at least a major competitor in cryptocurrency world.
NEM might be promising, but we can't tell for sure ATM.

very good! NEM

NEM hasn't been released but it is trying something that no coin has ever tried, to new investors, it can have a lot of appeal and because of its even distribution, it will behave very differently in the market.  it will be a great experiment.  $1 surely with in a couple of weeks would be way to high, but after a couple of years, it is a real possibility.  of course this depends a lot on how well it is supported, competitors, and the view and adoption of bitcoin in general by the people of the world.  NEM is somewhat inspired by NXT but trying to make its own way and its own voice.  it has a large pool of original investers, much better than any other coin out there, so there is a very good community to support it.  cryptocurrencies only live on with a community, first of speculators, then of people that actually use it for daily purchases.  so far out of hundreds of coins, only bitcoin barely become used by regular people to make purchases.  how many of your friends or family have made a real purchase of a tangible object with cryptocurrency?  this is the real test NXT and NEM have a lot going for them that other cryptocurrencies don't.   

I do not know the value, but will be great NEM

NEMs price will be more fluctuating due to even market and even odds. There will be no trust dictating prices like at NXT (gl hf fools buying for that prices). So we can expect some price adventure because there are no 70 bagholders having allowed selling price set at 0.0001 and buying below 0.00006. Thousands of people are unable to make any secret negotiations to create a trust or a group big enough to affect the market. There may be recommendations which price is good and which is not however there always will be rats which will try to escape from that recommendations. I am expecting a dump at start (with many rats trying to sell and rebuy later), then slow rise dependent on popularity and success or unsuccess of that project and then it will be in stars what will happen in long term time-range.

this just kinda smells like scam to me

Do you know anything about NEM? I don't think so. So please inform you about NEM before you say "it smells like scam" , okay  ;)

By the way. I think 1 USD is to much value for this coin shortly after ETA. The reason for this would be the distribution in an equal way. So everybody can have this coin. In my view NEM could be more popular than NXT however in regard of equal distribution which I like to promote, we got a real chance of 10 Cents 6 months after ETA.

NEM will have a marketcap value (on start) like NXT.
So, real start price will be from 0,00002 - 0,000025 BTC/NEM.
Then...sky is a limit

New rumors about the value of NEM:
In discussion thread try some members already to buy some stakes. ATM the values is set between 25000 NXT and 4 bitcoins.
Who can imagine that for a coin?  ;D

It all depends on the services which revolve around NEM.
So far the distribution of the cin is much much better than NXT.
But its a long way to go before it reaches anywhere near $1.

I see only speculation about NEM here.
Something real ? Something from a reliable source ?

NEM is soon going to make some announcements AFAIK.
That will give us some more solid idea about the future of this coin.

It will at least hit .50

That would be great. In a few months it could happen.

I would make 10:1 bet against that. (honestly I should say 100:1 but I simply dont have that much money.) I don't think it will ever be worth even 10 cents.

Maybe we could get that bet going on the new NXT decentralized exchange. (:) )

We should be realistic.
I love NEM - that is for sure; but I don't believe that we would hit 1 USD in the nearer future.
NEMs concept isn't a get quick rich-pattern.

But it seems realistic to hit 0.2 USD in a couple of month.

Everybody is ok with that : Nxt is a revolution, NEM try to make the same with his own approach. Now let see...

For me, 70 or 3000 stakeholder, it changes nothing.

Some people fears about dumping, but the danger is not bigger with 70 or 3000 or more. A panic sell is possible with a lot of stakeholders.

But what is dumping ? Sell for BTC or Fiat ? Do you think really that is the goal of the big stakeholder of Nxt (At the moment, there is more than 70, a lot more : http://charts.nxtcrypto.org/cDistribution.aspx) , to have BTC or Fiat ?

And if the stakeholders wait on the Asset Exchange ? And wait for the first Enterprises IPO to invest ? It's an other possibility to make the repartition better and it's not dumping. It make value.

Nobody think about that !

Ok NEM is cool and (theoretically) it could propose the same as Nxt. But how and when ?

The big implementations of Nxt come in few days. NEM don't have a blockchain.

Nxt Businesses are in the starting blocks : https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/asset-exchange-ipos-launch-day-listings!/msg12759/#msg12759 ; https://nxtforum.org/nxt-projects/
And it's only the top of the Iceberg.

And what about the businesses of NEM ? Nothing yet.

(I have a stake in NEM and NXT, I think NEM is a great project but I think it's a little bit to much to compare the both on the same level.)

Jesus, the first good post in this thread. Absolutely agree

That's what i'm estimating, too. :)

I would be damn happy if it hits $0.2!

But...I think realistically we are looking at .00002 BTC to start and it will fall after that...only to rebound.

NEM will have to hit the ground running and blow a lot of people away for it to get and stay in the top ten.

Many people here are still wary of non-minable coins...and the rest of the world barely understands bitcoin...let alone what NEM can achieve.

Anyway...here's hoping NEM kicks some serious ass on it's debut!

No it was a bad post.  Automated Transactions don't mean crap since it's not proprietary to NxT.  You're in the wild west, nothing is patented in the crypto world.  The strength of a coin isn't based on the technology but the community behind the coin.

There is nothing else like NEM to compare it too yet. I think the price will fluctuate a lot in the first few days, probably some good bargains to be had.

1$ you smoke too much pot
even 0.1$ would be great

if BTC goes +5000$, 10 cents isn't much

Anyone care to think that with so much early access to get a stake then early buyers simply do t exist. You will just have a ton of people holding coins hoping it will rise even without any buyers.


What I do predict is tons of people manipulating and screaming for it to rise only for it to pump and dump.

if someone earn monthly 200 USD ofcourse they sell +50% of their shares.
Every coin (BTC also) has about 50% of buyers/holders who are on pump and dump scheme

True words!
But as I already remarked the most of NEM-stakeholders would like to hold at least 50% of their stake.

You don't read my post. I don't only speak about technology. I speak about the community, the technological possibilities helps the community.

At the moment, Nxt has a great community with projects and the people prepare projects since months to use the Nxt technology. It's ready, in the starting block.
This projects can make the community grow.

NEM doesn't have that. The community is small at the moment (but can grow quickly) and isn't organised at the moment. It's impossible to see the future of NEM : good potential but nothing at the moment.

if NEM truly bring innovation into the table .. then maybe.  As of now, I don't even see the technological roadmap.

Then please be patient. In about 3 weeks the alpha client will appear.   ;D

Everybody is talking about bumpers. I hope they will do.
We just got one tiny stake. I want more.....

I don't know exactly, but can we buy some stakes in the auction as well?

I woud've thought auction prices will be strong money and the values will dip once everything has been distributed. I'd like more. I wouldn't buy until the dust has settled though.

I think we will see $10 NEM.

everybody is welcome to buy a share on auction

at least  :)

And I want a PONY !!!

so every investor has 10.000.000$ if he holds the coin?
Nice, but the question is when?  ;D

This is exactly what's going to happen, no buy support, just like it did with NXT. People are so naive. :P

Even those receiving a stake, a lot of them will want additional coins. There will be demand, just wait :)

I think, 2 or 3 $ should be the max - without hyperinflation.

People who don't want to stick around will sell out, people who want to be a bigger part of the picture will buy in. That's the normal process.

$10? Wow, coming from one of the devs, maybe he knows something!
I can definitely see it hitting $1 in 2014 and conceivably $10 in 2015.

I would be surprised if anyone got $10 or a pony but stranger things have happened.

Aside from any innovation, NEM's distribution has done its best to deal with the one and only thing that has nobbled NXT in the minds of many.

Unfortunately, most of the stakeholders is going to have less than 10% of the original amount when NEM hits $10... :(

Nem can't be this price. You are want to want to much money
 :-X :-X

http://rocknlol.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/rocknlol.fr-on-nem-ou-on-nem-pas.jpg

14 nems

Cool, I can visualise my Stake. Yum yum

For those who want 1NEM=1$ it could be even funny.
Anyway distrybution will me more stable that currency it can rise or fall...
On mint-pal there is 390 coin in qunique to join BTC market so :D when NEM will come out that would be funny.

Yeah no one has the patience to wait.  A lot of people will dump  as soon as a stake is worth a few thousand.  More will let go at the $10K and $100K threshold. 

Digital currencies someday could be worth $1+ trillion and the top 3 coins will likely be worth a fair bit.  Why stop at $10?  NEM could hit $100+.  


 

Oh we are not so greedy. 10$ is enough  :D

is it enough for my pony ? :-[

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it´s enough for a pony and a cheeseburger  ;D

If all coins marketcap was 12 billion at the end of 2013 and 2nd. generation coins can fulfill their goals of spreading much more in to real world from coin-idealist-circuits, there should be 100 times more users and a lot more places and purposes to use it and most of the people would actually use 'em. In that case we can guess that all coins cap could realistically be 1200 billion.

My intuition tells me that there will be 2 major crypto's (just like Visa & Mastercard), which are NXT + some other (hopefully NEM) and they share most of that cap (500 billion each ?) and several middle sized coins will share allmost all the rest of it (190 billion ?) and numerous small coins are left with the crumbs.  8)  8)  8)

i have ten shares ,i gonna be rich .lol

1 stake = 1 million coins.
1NEM=1$
So I will be a millionaire? 
Would be nice, but I don´t think so. Maybe in a couple of years, but not 2014.

1 NEM 0.5 Dollar is enough for me ;-)

And 1 Nxt 100 Dollar is also enough for me ;-)


chuki is a HODLER  ;D ;D ;D

The question is how long will it take to pass litecoins cap?

Thats the first step. Then we go for Bitcoin!!

yeah, i think after 3 months on marketcap Nem will be No.2

i don't know about No1....

BTC is a king....

Long live the King!  ;D

Are you crazy?
 ;D ;D ;D

and queen

:D

I think Bitcoin is the King an than comes NXT and NEM!!!

Just as a reminder.

Have you read the main NEM-thread in the last weeks?
I'm pretty sure you can now see how much innovation NEM will have.
 ;)

Nem looks tooo good.

Time will tell ;-)

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fsh70kquz7%2Fnem_on_the_moon.jpg&t=546&c=BeB-Q9sXSbCmDA

NEM was for a little moment on the moon. Unfortunately NEM went back down.

Will NEM ever visit moon again ?

It seems 1 NEM= $ 1USD is not far away.

Wow cool is  already a whole story, the theme was created in 2014. I was still not even aware of what the cryptocurrency. And he will soon reach this price because it is a cool coin

A pretty prescient first post there. The $10,000 Bitcoin has been and gone recently. Perhaps the $1 XEM will happen in the next few months. It's been a lengthy journey.

And for anyone who's interested XEM has been the best performing crypto this year, outside of freaky unknowns, not that anyone here ever seems to notice - https://www.investing.com/analysis/6-cryptocurrencies-putting-bitcoins-rally-to-shame-200273068

Nice information, thanks for sharing it. Too bad I bought NEM at the peak of its BTC price.. But i will hodl!