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A politician in my country was able to purchase 275buses in my country for his party in his bid to win the national secretary but the same party is in power and hospitals admit patients without beds.So I ask,will this country continue to exist? Honestly ,am afraid for the future of this world due to the high corrupt activities.

Some political deals involving large sums of fiat could be money laundering schemes in disguise.

A politician could conspire with the private sector to funnel taxpayer funding into an innocuous seeming project(like 275 buses). The politician and bus supplier could split the money. (Perhaps this is similar if not identical to how some shady ICOs scam people out of their investment money.) There are offshore tax havens which hide these types of large, illegal, transactions & hold sums of money in trust (perhaps as leverage against political figures). Profiteering may sometimes be a main motive behind state projects which don't make sense. Detectives say: "follow the money" and the motive will often be revealed. It is sad how often that could be true.

Its also worth noting corruption and bribery become more difficult under a financial system utilizing an open public ledger like bitcoin. Perhaps we have found yet another reason to use bitcoin: cut down on bribery and corruption in politics.

Of course bribery could collapse nation because some business man gives bribe to politicians to be able to have a deal on not paying the right amount of tax which is bigger than the bribe that they will give to the politician. So instead of having big tax to be used for the country, small tax will be paid because of bribery which leads to poverty.

of course the bribery can undermine a nation, such as in my country the level of bribery and corruption so high that any aggrieved country so great that poverty levels became high. to the extent that in Chinese criminal bribery and corruption is considered the No. 1 enemy of the State and the culprit will be in a very heavy penalty jatuhi even to the death penalty.

the dangers of bribery and corruption will be very bad for a country can even tear it down, the negative impact thereof will also be promoted democracy, economy, public welfare State, kestabilitasan State and the security of the State. even in the most country acts of bribery and corruption is the high level of crime and his punishment will be very heavy.

The worst thing of bribery is the fact that people think that it is the correct action the can do because of people with Legitimate power do the same. If bribery goes into the culture of the nation then, the nation will definately collapse after a period of time. Usually this situation happen in countries with significant amounts of people that leave under poverty and not in developed societies.

It can and it is seen throughout countries that have corrupt officials or big time criminals  as they can bride their way to justice which leaves their victims and sometimes their countries in shambles as they roam free continuing their reign of terror which is why it is up to the government and its citizens to stand up to uphold their justice.

What you are talking about isn't bribery, it is actually a case of corruption. Don't fear almost every government of every nation is corrupted. Government corruption could hinder the growth of country to some extent but it won't collapse the economy and nation completely. Now coming to bribery. Bribery could eat the nation from within just like parasite. What is nation? A conglomerate of people, right! And who takes bribe, again people/individuals of the nation. So when a part of nation is drowning it rather than building, slowly and gradually whole nation will collapse.

Yes your country will exist but in the extent of corruption it will crawl in terms of your economy. It will never prosper as to what you dreamed to be a better place to live

A country where bribery is a common practice is a country without laws and without examples to be followed. So the common citizen will adopt the same practice on their life too, as the authorities do and it's normal. After some time, several negative effects will impact a society like that.

Mistrust among people, insurgence, conflicts. Also, all the energies of these people will be concentrated on these matters. It's like a war atmosphere, but without any perspective of restoration... What means there isn't place for creativity, development, fraternal feelings. A nation like that is indeed doomed to collapse.

This corrupt politicians are the main reason why There are some other country's until now are very unprogressive and many innocent people suffer poverty. Because of their greediness. They use their power to corrupt all money that came from different government revenues. 

I think it is a country's main problem, bribery, corruption.
very bad impact on a country, like a thorn in the flesh. and it can not be underestimated.

Look at Mexico and what the government allows the drug cartels to get away with.  If you've ever seen any of the torture videos the Zetas have put out as a warning (I do NOT recommend watching any of them; they're soul-killing), you realize that the only way they get away with this is by having the government and police complicit.  It's absolutely sickening.  And I don't have any hard data about bribery in Mexico, but I've heard it's rampant.  Maybe someone from that country can testify as to whether it is.

And that's just one country.  Politicians are being bribed by powerful lobbyists on a daily basis just one country up in the U.S., and I suspect there's other types of bribery as well.  In my state a former governor went to prison for corruption, in fact.  His signature is on my college degree, since I went to a state school, which is kind of a joke to me.

However, keep in mind that all of this has been going on for centuries and we're probably in the best shape we've been in as far as quality of life goes.  I don't think it's correct to say that "the world is in a downward spiral" or some such statement because of the level of corruption, because I don't think it is.

Yes, if the corruption continues and more and more, of course the country will experience a very big problem. The corrupt officials should know that if he continues to do so his country will be destroyed and if his country is destroyed he will not be able to prosper. in fact corruption is self-destructive.

Can ... the government should give very heavy punishment to corruptors. corruptors must be put to death, because they are harming many people. even they can make people die of corruption. My country has not punished corruptors with any weight, I'm really disappointed.

Of course, bribery can destroy a country. Bribery is part of corruption and it is very bad, anyone caught in such act should be severally punished for it. The same thing is happening in my country and I can tell you that it has destroyed even schools in our country. Students are bribing their teachers to pass their subjects and to pass exams.

Politicians are bribing people to vote for them, well I don’t need to mention that one cause they are campaigning, but it’s getting out of hand when they get to the extent of bribing those that are controls and counts votes just to rig the election or whatever.

It should be said that corruption is a profit-seeking in human nature, selfish genes are born, and secondly, loopholes in the system, power and lack of supervision, there will be room for power rent-seeking. Corruption undermines the credibility of the government.

The country will exist but the government may collapse and that stinky politician will be on jail.  But it depends on all of you the people of your country.  Nothing can stop people power, even machine guns.

Bribery and corruption is not different with the other since these corrupt practices should not be tolerated and should be stopped. In our country, our president is particular with his promise to the people that he will stop corruption and currently the majority of the people in our country had experienced the change in the system. As a citizen in our country, I had a full support in the economic agenda of our president since he has high hopes for our country that one day it will be one of the promising countries in Asia.

In my opinion, it is impossible to say whether the whole nation will be able to destroy corruption, but it can definitely worsen the lives of many citizens. It seems to me that in the future corruption will disappear and everything will fall into place.

You would be surprised about all the shitty things they (can) do in order to prevent a collapse.

can, because with a bribe, the law in a country will be weak. very weak, and that could undermine the strong foundation of the country.

If your people ignore their rights in pursuing changes then everything you said will continue and your country wil become nothing in existence sooner,why not try to read some books regarding how small country like PHILIPPINES do their part in something like this,the EDSA PEOPLE POWER is the first biggest rally that make a president step down from office and replaced by constitutional president.this is the voice of the people that you must do

Yes,bribery can collapse a nation slowly.My country is the biggest example for that.I don`t want to disclose my country,by the way.Corruption makes the politicians and the mafia even more rich and powerful,while the poor people remain poor.Corruption slowly destoys the market economy and fair business competition.

Yes this is a sensitive issue in a certain country because there are some high ranking officials had receive something or getting bribe from someone for self interest and in return a favor that could result to a loss of a certain from that country. Like high ranking politicians could even sold one island from foreign country or let theme explore in that island which they think has a lot of natural resources could be taken away. If this will continue a nation will collapse.

As long as the oppressed remained silent about the claim against them, the greed stole more.
Corruption, accountability, and Intermediary are one of the most critical advantages of long-term governance systems. I do not know about your country, but I think that the regime lasted for a long time without being opposed by anyone.

The situation you mentioned is a point of the sea of corruption and is only a small part of the mountain of corruption.
The development of systems such as Bitcoin may help in more transparency, as open source systems  "blockchain voting systems" can be used to add clarity.

Actualy in my country there so many politician doing this kinds of  activities,corrupt and doing plunder into there homeland,thats why its only a natural everyday we face and we heard this kind of news,definetly there so many politicians now are been imprisoned and go in trial about this kind of case,but in other country once a politician became convicted they commit suicide into there own life,like in the country of japan.

thanks for this great and wonderful topic .for me yes it can collapse a nation

Corruption will lead to a fall nation. We pay taxes to sustain and improve the services and facilities we needed. However,  the benefits that a tax payers should get weren't given to the fullest.  This is because the a portion of the budget went to the hands of the corrupt government officials for their personal interests. And corrupt government officials should be eliminated to experience growth of the country.

Corruption is not new to any nation it is coming from old generation but still you can see lot of country are developing. So I think corruption won't be much affected until their are good persons who working with them.

Well i think that already answers your question. Bribery is always connected to corruption and corruption is often the reason for a country's demise. A few people's greed sadly affects majority of the people.

If there's rampant bribery or corruption, their's a chance that your country can be in deep trouble and the more people can't feed the mouth of their family, sooner or later they will go and commit crimes and will try to justify what they did is right. So it has a domino effect. I think that politician has a lot of explaining to do, because it has a deep repercussions. If the people can't take it anymore, they might go to the streets and clamour of a government change and I'm sure that it will be ugly because more blood will spill on the streets. But what can we do? People are already feed up with the corruption and bribes that's going on, so I guess your country will continue to suffer unless that party was overthrown and replaces by someone who thinks of his country first.

I cant say it can't but if you know what is happening in the real world you'll be surprised how often it happens. Though thinking deeply it is really happening even today bribery was an act to make things smoother and faster or maybe used as appreciation but with benefits. Lol in all governments bribery are often used to various of favors.

For me, it is a big YES because a government with corrupt officials will not grow. The taxes that will paid by the people of the certain country will not use properly, all government projects will not follow the exact budget plan due to this bribery that happen. Therefore, i conclude that bribery will collapse a nation.

The country will exist - but the question is what it will be for 10 years. The question is different here. How long should people endure it?
For example, I like China very much, because if I stole a crippled hand, I took a bribe shot. Although in this country not everything is cool, but there is almost no corruption there

Obviously renumeration could fall country since some agent offers pay off to government officials to have the capacity to have an arrangement on not paying the appropriate measure of duty which is greater than the pay off that they will provide for the legislator. So as opposed to having enormous assessment to be utilized for the nation, little duty will be paid due to pay off which prompts destitution.

There's no doubt that corruption, endemic in emerging economies around the world, Throws economic development into chaos. It affects decisions made by bureaucrats, degrades the quality of those in power and discourages foreign investment. Its also an increasingly hot business topic with a growing number of influential business and political leaders from around the globe regularly pinpointing corruption as one of the greatest threats to global economic development.

Thats surely worst country I have ever read about. No beds for the patients in the hospitals? Its like more or less corrupted country ever. I don't why but I do see corruption over the bribe here. A bribe would be giving black money in hand making things move around you. This is completely different scenario. If that politician would have bought those buses with cheap rates than what estimated cost then it could have been bribe given to the manufacture. Off course on the other hand bribe or corruption both can break the nation internally and thus collapse the nation.

Seriously bribery can collapse a nation because when this is really going on a particular country for long it is going to few people in the country which is always going to make the rich always rich and leaving the poor always poor too.for example when the education system in a particular country of ours get into bribery and only rich persons can afford to pay it for their wards to be taken this will make only children homes attend school and this can collapse a country easily.

Hmmn... This is quite disheartening! And same is operative in my country. The leaders are definitely ruining the economy and crippling the hope of resuscitating the dieing or dead economy. Corruption must have eaten so deep that there will be no cure but death for that country. It can only take a miracle to get it back on track and to a state of being developed.

We can see many countries that are being destroyed by a corrupt government. While the people will warm up this chaos greedy rulers will mock them.

Bribery cant make any country to fall, this might be possible before but now? i dont think so.
people have opened their eyes even on any government.
they are not being fed with mainstream media. the people are the media now.

Bribery can easily collapse a nation in many ways which includes the following.when bribery goes on in a particular nation for long time it can easily collapse the nation because the rich will continue enjoying their riches whiles the poor continues been poor.this may happen because the rich will always getting the best since they ve monies to afford bribes which the poor people cant do so.In form education the rich will always pay higher for their wards education since they can afford bribery when needed and the poor cant do so and will lead their children into armed robbery,pick pocketing and other social vices which can seriously collapse a nation
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Corruption can lead bribery and most of us and people in the world are aware about bribery but unfortunate majority of politician and people still use this method to solved their illegal problem and i think all of government in this world has been attempts to remove bribery acts because the final effect from bribery acts is it can destroy the particular nation

I think that people should stop bribery otherswise this will lead to no good. In every country it exists to the different extent. as for me, i think that this depends on a person but the society also affects this

I think that this is a very difficult question but to my mind it is possible. we should get rid of the bribery and explain people that this is not the best way to live according to such principles. to my mind, this is so

Bribery is dangerous for nation but only if it is done by rich peoples in the country or politicians. I mean if a poor does bribery then it might be worth dollars or something. Lolz. But when it comes to the examples like you then surely it can destroy the economic circulation of an nation.

To be honest we should look at the bribery as holes in the economic circulation. Whenever XYZ amount gets bribed then surely it gets converted into the black money which is never used for the nations developments. Off course it is disturbing everything.

A lot of the third world countries have this issue, where the people who have the power always thrive for more and more money, they get greedy and start working their ways and bend the laws as they wish in order to satisfy their personal intressets, and probably the best example for this is Panama papers that exposed a lot of politicians and people with power who are offshoring  money they steal under the name of imaginary companies, and usually all of them live in countries with shity economics.

If there is chance to eradicate bribery it is good to pluck it off from the initial stage. If it is allowed, automatically it'll support the destruction of the respective economic system. You can understand how good a country could if there is good practice to support the growth of the bitcoin. When top order people get into bitcoin the scenario around will make bitcoin more adopted.

Countries are going crazy all around the world so this is one of the reasons why we need to have this centralised government ruling on blockchain system, I cannot imagine how would it be like as well :)

I think it will still exist. A country will never collapse, it only transfers power from one ruling party to another. So there will soon be a government reform to your country, where corruption will decline

Bribery in general is a form of corruption just imagine politicians and government employees taking up some bribes in order to be in favor to the people who bribe them. From the creation of laws to appropriation of funds in favor of them this will really lead to a country's downfall. That is why we cannot turn a blind eye even on the smallest kinds of briberies just like traffic violations. This form of corruption is not really acceptable as it may lead to a worser crime.

as so many thinkers admit and have a common thought is that what makes a country collapse are their citizens of low clases who have not involved in such acts and for sure while they see those unfairness and the greed of fat holes in government than for sure they would act and a collapse would be inevitable.

Corruption in many countries of the world has already destroyed the traditions of peoples, cultural values, national pride. Almost all state governments on the planet are corrupt and protect only the interests of large corporations. Corporations are engaged in globalization of the whole world and make people consumers. Globalization does not provide for any national traditions of any of the peoples.

Absolutely yes, because in nation when  receiving any item like money in any other persons had a possibility to have a future favor. The bribe itself is the gift of money or other assets, given on the basis that the recipient will act in a certain way that is contrary to what he would do in ordinary circumstances. The truth is, bribery and corruption raise their ugly heads in a broad range of circumstances, from governmental contracts, to obtaining privileges, services and favors.

Bribe is one of the reason that still there are countries under developed even they have all the resources.In my country also the bribe and corruption are the two things spoiling the future of country.But who are the reason behind that the common citizen bribing the officials to get their work done so we need to change ourself first if we comsider about future of our nation.

There are so many developing nations across the world that are still crawling because of corruption. When some wicked leaders are voted into power,they perpetrate corruption in the highest form that will make the masses of the citizens and their generations to suffer for it.Corruption is one of the great enemies of development worldwide.

Any country have that black sheep that can take down one white sheep or join his team.  ;D
I do not believe in a perfect government. It will not exist even in the future. Even artificial intelligence should be programmed to make actions. There will always be holes to one's creation.

Yes it can collapse one country but it also depends on the people if they will take it. Sure it is inviting to take the bribe but if there is still that love for one country then it could be fought.

Yes, especially if it false at the justice system of the country. If the justice system of a country is being bribe every time there's a trial, the justice will not be always balance. There's always a dominant side.

Sure. It may not have happened yet.
But gradually leading to a big hole in every aspect of the country.
Implications for the latter are difficult to modify, affecting a whole country if one does not want it to grow.
Only pure, strong always wins all bad actions.
Be an active person to create a positive community to grow.

When it is being used to do in a certain country, when wrong becomes right, when impossible becomes possible, when law are break because of bribery, then possible it could ruin and collapse a nation. People in power position normally use bribery to cover their wrong doings, and sometimes becomes abusive to the community, therefore it will ruin a nation and hopefully not really to reach into collapse.

Corruption can collapse for sure. The leaders of most countries try to save their own asses before they try to save the country which results in people getting rich and powerful. However when they get rich and powerful, instead of saying "now its time to help people" they realize if they lose power they will be put to court for the previous actions they did, they start to just get even more power somehow and try to find a way to never get powerless because they are scared about what could happen to them.

In some countries where the legal system is unsound or the regulatory measures are missing, there is a very serious corruption in the country, and the bribery of the country can indeed collapse a country. I think it is difficult for such a country to make progress. The social mechanism of the whole country will be very bad, and those who have the ability to gain wealth will be as far away from the country as possible.

This is the only thing that can lead your institutions to fall from the summits to the ground and has serious consequences in countries like China, North Korea and Philippines Manila where thousands of lives have been put to death for charges of bribery and corruption that is the misuse of power.

It also questions your moral standards and your level of humanity for bribery implies depriving the right person from his constitutional rights and giving to someone else.

If there is any fast epidemic that can bring down a country, its bribery and corruption. The moment bribery has taken a whole of the economy that is the beginning of the end for that country and because its contagious, it begins to spread to different sectors and then generation which might take forever to clean up. The point is the societies that work where citizens have access to basic needs for human existence is run by people in the most efficient way and the moment bribery is introduced to that environment, mediocrity begins to replace efficiency.

For your country, I think its an example for a society that has failed because I cannot imagine someone contesting for a public office position expending such huge amount of money without the motive of reaping back his investment when he eventually gets the position. Its a shame that positions are now used to make individuals rich rather than benefit to the populace that they claim they want to serve. This is not to absolve that there is no bribery in working societies but its not rubbed in the face of the citizens and flaunted on people like its being witnessed in most under-developed and developing country.

A nation with bribery and corruption has no future for the youth. This go a long way to collapse the economy and the administration of the country and the government. Bribery does not enhance economic growth of a country.

About corruption, there are many hided heads which are involved in it and pretending that they are white and clean from corruption and bribery like bad things have bad consequences on others lives which is a universal law for all countries not to go for these swamps.

Most caught people for bribery and corruption is politicians because they are in authority and can do whatever they want but the world has progressed a lot and now results are perceiving at the perceptiveness of this generation and the upcoming will not let it go.

corruption when not checked on an earlier stage can destroy and reduce a rich country to become poor. corruption destroys a nation and makes her become a nation that depends on aides from other nations.

Corruption and Clan type mentality economics can really keep a country in Poverty. Where in richer nations a person will get a job purely on merit, in clan and tribal-based societies, those in power will stick their family members in jobs even if they are not qualified and bribery goes hand in hand with all levels of corruption. Bribery is one of the main killers in poor countries that never see the light of day because they are riddled with all these malpractices and corrupt officials and business people. It's such a shame to see these nations spiraling into worse conditions year in year out because of corrupt Leadership and Cronies.

Bribery and corruption will rather bury any nation where it is left unchecked. My country is a very good example of this. There is corruption everywhere here. Starting from government instructions to private institutions to religion bodies. Nothing seems to be working any longer.

This is normal in politics, and those small countries are really suffering for this one. Just like here in my place, so many corrupt people and yet they are still in the government position. This can affect the economy but government will do their best to attract investors so they have more money to corrupt.

I think bribery and corruption can collapse the nation because the white money that is initially in the system goes to the pocket of the people as a black money. and black money is barely productive and thus it can collapse.  

My nation is the best example of it. The nation gets collapsed. An employee to do his responsibility asks for bribery. Just imagine the situation. We have government employees, we approach them to get the job done. The work will be done based on the level of bribery you deal with. If you are not giving out any bribe then your work will certainly be held back, but if you are giving a lump of amount which was unexpected by the employee, the same work will be done as soon as possible it can be done. It can be to any extend. Every leader and their followers are living with it. This has entered in their blood. None can stop it unless and until they do so which is really a big questionnaire.