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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Bacchu on July 21, 2018, 03:02:54 PM



Title: Need help from this community,[D2, D1] Please tag them
Post by: Bacchu on July 21, 2018, 03:02:54 PM
** I badly need support from the community, Please

Scam Auction(with bounty rewards)
Kickcity team did not pay full bounty rewards, So why I am creating this post:

I was a bounty participant in kickcity campaign ( bounty thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2120238.0 ). I was the first bounty participant (spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a8LgV55tsO4i8MOGSpuRFgZ0AR6MRWX7fgv5agpjw5I/edit ). the kick city team started sent the bounty reward as 11.05.18 but I did not get my reward that day and I guess it would take some days normally. But when I checked all of the bounty participants wallet address(kikckcity bounty spreadsheet) in etherscan.io, I found that all of the rewards have been distributed according to the spreadsheet.

then I knocked the kickcity CEO-founder(@gigi_kc), kickcity  CEO-founder told me that talk with kickcity community manager (@alya_kcy) .Here the screenshot of talk with (@gigi_kc) CEO-founder :
 
https://s33.postimg.cc/3n2vb4jgv/gigi_1.png (https://postimages.org/)posted image (https://postimages.org/)

https://s33.postimg.cc/qbs2aqyan/gigi_2.png (https://postimages.org/)



I talk to bounty manager Sylon also.he said that:

https://s33.postimg.cc/jzcx0ribz/sylon.png (https://postimages.org/)screen shot windows (https://postimages.org/app)

https://s33.postimg.cc/pnj7rpru7/sylon_2.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://s33.postimg.cc/5sx65ta4f/sylon_3.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://s33.postimg.cc/wdzp1fx33/sylon_4.png (https://postimages.org/)



I am also giving here the screenshot of those chat with (@alya_kcy):

https://s33.postimg.cc/42e54ini7/aleya_1.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://s33.postimg.cc/qebxxz77j/aleya_2.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://s33.postimg.cc/ob1ipvcf3/aleya_3.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://s33.postimg.cc/43o2xquf3/aleya_4.png (https://postimages.org/)image url (https://postimages.org/)


today again I asked about my bounty rewards and they told me (look at the screenshot):

https://s33.postimg.cc/idxn8xd8v/kick_1.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://s33.postimg.cc/wkde49ba7/kick_2.png (https://postimages.org/)image url (https://postimages.org/)


they don't want to send my full reward. Till now I only got 41,931 KCY but my total bounty rewards are 384769 (signature bounty)+ 1,727 (twitter bounty)=386496 KCY .


( I talked with sylon(bounty manager) he said everything is fine in this spreadsheet.but the team "don't agree" with maths. they don't even understand how bounty campaigns and % systems work...


That's why I have to post a scam auction about kickcity project...
If they sent me full reward according to the spreadsheet I will withdraw this scam auction...Otherwise, I will spread out in everywhere so that all investor can be understood this project is not trustworthy.





And the funniest reply from the community manager

This auction is not actually right. Scam is when people take your money and go away. We payed out reward before making everything clear. 10% of the sum noticed. So why we did it?

The situation with Sylon's calculation is suspicious. We didn't want to pay at all because people did their job. And we payed a lot (especially for signature campaign). And we explained (and you can see that on screenshots) that these calculations look suspicious. We need to make everything clear. We don't want to blame anyone, but there are some issues we need to solve.

Blaming us as scam is unfair.


Really??


https://i.imgur.com/hfCO92M.png



Now please pay attention


As they said calculation was suspicious bla bla bla , and the funniest reply from the community manager
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2120238.msg39715804#msg39715804

Hello everyone again! I explain everything according to this situation, but my comment was deleted. That is even more suspicious.

We sent tokens, but 10% of the sum. Because calculations are wrong. And we decided to send some tokens

Now i would like to ask the community to check few random payout addresses from the signature spreadsheet and do the justice

SIGNATURE SPREADSHEET :

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a8LgV55tsO4i8MOGSpuRFgZ0AR6MRWX7fgv5agpjw5I/edit#gid=0

https://i.imgur.com/YCAdGg4.png


https://etherscan.io/address/0x0f2C186a83F87D4c229F0a1d6f5CD008F1551b59#tokentxns

https://i.imgur.com/QIzBdaU.png

https://etherscan.io/address/0xb2aE68D5a801fcD3Cc333c9a5a649001af5a0BCD#tokentxns

https://i.imgur.com/5CDgFUm.png

https://etherscan.io/address/0xE6d5A85867f682Aec2fde7AA3841d1f43C3B2e96#tokentxns

https://i.imgur.com/RdcpGVo.png


All participants got their 100% payout according to the spreadsheet except me,

and you can see from the above conversation what actually looks suspicious, sylon calculation or their unlogical statement about sig bounty, i need justice, ineed my payment what i deserve




** I will add more information later or correct some statement if there was a mistake from my side,


My ETH:   0xD13711d8b1e219f85292dBC8Adbdbbdfa92158Cd


Title: Re: I was fucked up by KickCity team (KickCity - Community Is Power)
Post by: allahabadi on July 21, 2018, 04:44:35 PM
Shame on the team, I've stopped participating in these bounties by so called Best Managers as one or another issue creeps up.


Title: Re: I was fucked up by KickCity team (KickCity - Community Is Power)
Post by: Avirunes on July 22, 2018, 04:06:59 PM
I am kinda confused with how the distribution happened for signature participants. If we look into this: https://etherscan.io/token/0x9d22c3bf2b51213a3572e865ecf78fab0294e75b?a=0xb2aE68D5a801fcD3Cc333c9a5a649001af5a0BCD

You will see two transfers- One with 344,689.3788 KCY tokens and one with 34,468.93788 KCY tokens. Similarly I can see some more participants getting their participants in order- 100% and after some days later 10% of the tokens as calculated in signature spreadsheet.

What I assume that they first mistakenly sent the tokens as in spreadsheet and then sent the tokens as 10% as the realized the mistake. What they didn't realize is that they already have mistakenly sent some of the participants according to the spreadsheet.



Anyway what I said above doesn't gives an idea of my initial view (its just a speculation on what happened regarding the others receiving the tokens as according to spreadsheet). As a participant you have right to ask for your claim and maybe you should ask the reason behind why they find Sylon's calculations wrong.

My guess- They thought its wrong because the token calculated is very high comparing to other campaigns which was a resultant of high token allocation and low no. of participants. However they don't reserve right to change if its because of that illogical excuse. They are just covering up themselves behind excuse "Sylon's miscalculations" and escape from paying the actual amount.

If they are so worried about it then they should have asked Sylon with a campaign with fixed token chart for signature campaign to escape paying token values higher than the usual rate a signature participants get and I am sure they Sylon must have provided them with a draft of the thread before making the bounty thread live (infact every bounty manager sends to the project owner the content  before making it live) and have only posted it after they found it ok and allowed him to post it.

Seems like they ripped you off here. Bounty Thread archived > http://archive.is/axkHD


Title: Re: I was fucked up by KickCity team (KickCity - Community Is Power)
Post by: khufuking on July 22, 2018, 07:50:33 PM
That is totally rip off, If they said bounty gonna be %x then it should be %x , changing the amount after the end of the ICO is a scam in my opinion, if they changed the amount of bounty early in the campaign that might be accepted, but after bounty ended is not acceptable and should fall under scam .

As the above post pointed out, I think they paid some 100% then when they released that the amount is too big they started paying 10% . What is really confusing is that you are saying you was first in spreadsheet, then why they did not pay 100% for you, you should be with the lucky party that got 100% !!!! .


Title: Re: I was fucked up by KickCity team (KickCity - Community Is Power)
Post by: Bacchu on July 28, 2018, 03:55:00 PM
I am kinda confused with how the distribution happened for signature participants. If we look into this: https://etherscan.io/token/0x9d22c3bf2b51213a3572e865ecf78fab0294e75b?a=0xb2aE68D5a801fcD3Cc333c9a5a649001af5a0BCD

You will see two transfers- One with 344,689.3788 KCY tokens and one with 34,468.93788 KCY tokens. Similarly I can see some more participants getting their participants in order- 100% and after some days later 10% of the tokens as calculated in signature spreadsheet.

What I assume that they first mistakenly sent the tokens as in spreadsheet and then sent the tokens as 10% as the realized the mistake. What they didn't realize is that they already have mistakenly sent some of the participants according to the spreadsheet.



Anyway what I said above doesn't gives an idea of my initial view (its just a speculation on what happened regarding the others receiving the tokens as according to spreadsheet). As a participant you have right to ask for your claim and maybe you should ask the reason behind why they find Sylon's calculations wrong.

My guess- They thought its wrong because the token calculated is very high comparing to other campaigns which was a resultant of high token allocation and low no. of participants. However they don't reserve right to change if its because of that illogical excuse. They are just covering up themselves behind excuse "Sylon's miscalculations" and escape from paying the actual amount.

If they are so worried about it then they should have asked Sylon with a campaign with fixed token chart for signature campaign to escape paying token values higher than the usual rate a signature participants get and I am sure they Sylon must have provided them with a draft of the thread before making the bounty thread live (infact every bounty manager sends to the project owner the content  before making it live) and have only posted it after they found it ok and allowed him to post it.

Seems like they ripped you off here. Bounty Thread archived > http://archive.is/axkHD


I talked to the Manager. The manager told me everything was right from his side. But the team manager does not accept the calculation. here is the screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/RgkwOeQ.png


Title: Re: I was fucked up by KickCity team (KickCity - Community Is Power)
Post by: Avirunes on July 28, 2018, 04:24:41 PM
[....]


I was guessing so that they might have problem with tokens calculation. Interesting reply by the way. Payout against others were also calculated with that much amount of tokens yet they received as mentioned in sheet as well as 10%.

I will add up a feedback soon.


Title: Re: I was fucked up by KickCity team (KickCity - Community Is Power)
Post by: Bacchu on July 28, 2018, 06:00:04 PM
[....]


I was guessing so that they might have problem with tokens calculation. Interesting reply by the way. Others also received that much amount of tokens yet they received some.

I will add up a feedback soon.
It would help me a lot. Thank you in advance.


Title: Re: I was fucked up by KickCity team (KickCity - Community Is Power)
Post by: Bacchu on August 02, 2018, 11:09:04 AM
As I've already told you Sylon's calculations we wrong. We recounted it. Sylon is just a bounty manager. He is not responsible for our reputation and community. But we do. Please write me on telegram and we will start solving this conflict

just now talked with the community manager of kickcity project. Here is the screenshot of our communication:

https://i.imgur.com/5XRSIAr.png

https://i.imgur.com/CQMEzyz.png

https://i.imgur.com/GTONMVy.png

I think they would not pay my bounty reward. it's time to take action against this project. Looking for help from [D2, D1 members] the community peoples.


Title: Re: I was fucked up by KickCity team (KickCity - Community Is Power)
Post by: shitcoinoffering on August 02, 2018, 01:40:54 PM
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Title: Re: I was fucked up by KickCity team (KickCity - Community Is Power)
Post by: Bacchu on August 04, 2018, 09:05:42 AM
Need help from this community,[D2, D1] Please tag them

Till now I found total 3 peoples attach with this project(from ann thread):

co-founder: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1072589 Gigi_Kickcity

community manager: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1148829 aleksandra_kickcity

and this one from the  top of ann post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1074681 Arty_ico.KickCity.io