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Title: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Jake on October 09, 2011, 04:34:47 AM
I will go first to you always, if I suspect you of any scam - we can use a middleman.
I will never not go first/use a middleman! So if you find somebody doing this, then it is not me.

Cards
$100 Card - 10 BTC
$250 Card - 25 BTC
Custom amount ($10-$2500) - Negotiable, please message me about this.

I am also able to purchase items for you, on NewEgg. Just message me about this.

You may have noticed that I have reputation for being a scammer here, I have changed and you can trust me any way you like - I just wanted to let you know, instead of being accused. I am going first/using a middleman for a reason... so neither of us get scammed. I have learned that scamming is cruel, and doesn't help your karma, nor future at all.

To purchase a card, please message me.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: shakaru on October 09, 2011, 05:02:01 AM
How do I know the cards wont be canceled or returned? Can I pay you once I get my merchandise? I would feel more safe like that.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Jake on October 09, 2011, 05:06:13 AM
How do I know the cards wont be canceled or returned? Can I pay you once I get my merchandise? I would feel more safe like that.

If they are cancelled, or returned - I'll give you a refund... or a new gift card. We can possibly do that, would I get your phone number and stuff?


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: shakaru on October 09, 2011, 05:09:05 AM
How do I know the cards wont be canceled or returned? Can I pay you once I get my merchandise? I would feel more safe like that.

If they are cancelled, or returned - I'll give you a refund... or a new gift card. We can possibly do that, would I get your phone number and stuff?

Yes, I will call you right now if you pm me your number.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: astana on October 09, 2011, 05:10:44 AM
OK PM'd very interested


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: shakaru on October 09, 2011, 05:24:47 AM
Jake, I would prefer to do it tonight if possible so I can get the ball rolling on the order. Im out of pm's for this hour (10 cap) so message me with a phone # and we can do this.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Tomatocage on October 09, 2011, 08:21:53 PM
Because this isn't a scam or anything  ::)


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: JonHind on October 09, 2011, 08:27:23 PM
How do I know the cards wont be canceled or returned? Can I pay you once I get my merchandise? I would feel more safe like that.

If they are cancelled, or returned - I'll give you a refund... or a new gift card. We can possibly do that, would I get your phone number and stuff?

If they are legitimate cards, why would they be cancelled or returned?

The fact that you are making allowances for such a possibility screams scam to me.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: haploid23 on October 09, 2011, 08:55:52 PM
~$40 worth of BTC for $100 gift card.... right...  ::)

would you mind giving the code first, then i order the newegg items and once it ships, i pay you the BTC?  you took advantage of people's trust in the past, now time for you to trust the buyers


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: astana on October 09, 2011, 09:06:35 PM
yeah sounds like a scam, middleman? and who would that be? One of your other accounts? A friend?

Only way in the world I do this is if products are shipped and received, no if's or buts.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: GamingG on October 10, 2011, 06:18:55 AM
Personally, if I could legitimately get Newegg gift cards for less than 40% of face value, instead of selling them, I'd be buying and reselling products like crazy.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: shakaru on October 13, 2011, 04:21:38 AM
Still full of shit. First we work out the details, then I get told that I have to wait, then I get some bs about his supplier, now I am told he cant get any newegg cards at all.
I save the conversation logs if anyone would like.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Tronlet on October 13, 2011, 04:59:14 AM
I'd like logs as well.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: shakaru on October 13, 2011, 06:17:12 AM
Here is the second half, I have to goto my office machine for the first days conversation.

[10/11/2011 3:39:27 PM] jake.antifaev: Hey
[10/11/2011 3:39:39 PM] Andrew Nollan: good timing
[10/11/2011 3:39:41 PM] Andrew Nollan: just walked in
[10/11/2011 3:40:24 PM] jake.antifaev: :P
[10/11/2011 3:40:33 PM] Andrew Nollan: So what is the word?
[10/11/2011 3:40:56 PM] jake.antifaev: I can only supply $100 cards atm.
[10/11/2011 3:41:06 PM] jake.antifaev: Due to your order, you'd probably have to wait a bit for it to complete.
[10/11/2011 3:41:44 PM] Andrew Nollan: How long is a bit because at this rate Im loosing money each day I wait
[10/11/2011 3:42:03 PM] jake.antifaev: October 13, or 14th.
[10/11/2011 3:42:19 PM] Andrew Nollan: and thats for me to get any of the $100 cards?
[10/11/2011 3:43:06 PM] jake.antifaev: $2000 worth of $100 cards.
[10/11/2011 3:43:10 PM] jake.antifaev: So it would be 20 $100 cards.
[10/11/2011 3:44:16 PM] Andrew Nollan: Well Im already out $900 because newegg changed prices on the items i wanted
[10/11/2011 3:44:30 PM] jake.antifaev: Sorry about that.
[10/11/2011 3:45:09 PM] Andrew Nollan: Well, If one more item in my cart changes price, I have no need for the cards anymore
[10/11/2011 3:45:39 PM] Andrew Nollan: this all just smells funny to me
[10/11/2011 3:46:24 PM] jake.antifaev: NewEgg denies 90% of GiftCard orders.
[10/11/2011 3:46:32 PM] jake.antifaev: They usually RARELY accept $2000 giftcard orders.
[10/11/2011 3:47:00 PM] Andrew Nollan: Understood, but what to say they dont deny it this time?
[10/11/2011 3:47:16 PM] Andrew Nollan: And Ive never had a newegg giftcard get denied
[10/11/2011 3:47:20 PM] jake.antifaev: Well usually $100 orders go through.
[10/11/2011 3:47:23 PM] Andrew Nollan: and ive bought 2500 cards too
[10/11/2011 3:47:51 PM] jake.antifaev: My supplier has tried $2000, even $500 and $250 cards.
[10/11/2011 3:48:09 PM] Andrew Nollan: The only way they deny them is if you cant pay, or there is fraud
[10/11/2011 3:48:39 PM] jake.antifaev: There is no fraud though, nor can he not pay.
[10/11/2011 3:49:55 PM] Andrew Nollan: well just get it taken care of. Ive recived to code from bitegg in the time this has taken, my paitence is running thin.
[10/11/2011 3:51:25 PM] jake.antifaev: Well I apologize, I can't control this. I run off a supplier, and he has a ton of resellers.
[10/11/2011 3:51:44 PM] jake.antifaev: We are a bunch of rat's, and we grab whatever we can when it comes up.
[10/11/2011 3:53:05 PM] Andrew Nollan: well grab it and get it to me asap
[10/11/2011 4:06:42 PM] jake.antifaev: I'll try
[10/11/2011 4:07:02 PM] jake.antifaev: I'll try my best, if I can't - please don't be mad.
[1:29:08 PM] Andrew Nollan: Just really try
[9:16:00 PM] Andrew Nollan: any news?
[9:17:04 PM] Jake Antifaev: I don't think we are the right people for your order. Sorry for holding you back like this, but it's to frustrating to fill such a large order.
[9:17:18 PM] Jake Antifaev: Next time, we will let you know if we have some in stock or not.
[9:17:19 PM] Andrew Nollan: Can you fill ANY order?
[9:18:22 PM] Jake Antifaev: I stayed on for 14 hours (almost all night) refreshing my supplier's order page. GC's would pop up, once I clicked "grab" it would be like "Sorry, this product isn't available anymore". People are snatching ALL OF THEM before me.
[9:18:25 PM] Jake Antifaev: It's pissing me off.
[9:18:58 PM] Andrew Nollan: So you cant get any cards then?
[9:19:09 PM] Jake Antifaev: Unless a miracle happens, I doubt it.
[9:19:26 PM] Jake Antifaev: I would if these asshole's stopped grabbing all of em ^.^
[9:19:49 PM] Andrew Nollan: well then you shouldnt post crap in the forum if you cant deliver
[9:20:44 PM] Jake Antifaev: I know, it's why I said next time... I'll be in stock.
[9:20:52 PM] Jake Antifaev: My apologies again.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: astana on October 13, 2011, 09:32:17 AM
what a douche bag, all these lying tossers trying to scam you. Funny I post one thread about wanting newegg cards 40 scammers pop up.

Only way to do these deals is escrow, skrill/moneybookers offer but you only have a $500 credit card deposit limit so if something happens after you've sent $1500 your screwed any better escrow out there?


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 12:29:27 AM
Whoa. Okay, I'm sorry about this guys. I didn't know Jake had posted this so early.

He had discussed this with me a while back but I was a bit busy this week and didn't get a chance to sign off on it.

Basically, there is a supplier in Canada where he is that has about 20,000 Newegg cards available for a bit lower than their face value and it is actually a pretty awesome deal. I understand how Jake's vagueness makes it look a bit scammy but in reality he'd be willing to put his own money up first, just wasn't sure if anyone would buy any yet.

Since Jake already has about $1,200 just order what you want up to that value, he'll front his money first, then you can pay him in BTC when he delivers. I've already talked to Jake about loganfag and why doing things this way is not the best of business models, but since the thread's already here, I take responsibility and I'll facilitate whatever needs to be done.



Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Tyson95 on October 15, 2011, 02:17:18 AM
What a cluster fuck of retardation.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: shakaru on October 15, 2011, 05:50:44 AM
ill take all 1200 based on our previous arrangement. Waiting.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 06:02:13 AM
ill take all 1200 based on our previous arrangement. Waiting.

From what I can tell it's gonna take some time. The agent he's been dealing with is kind of an electronics dealer in the area and there are lots of customers ahead of him.

To avoid a potential "cluster fuck of retardation", I'd recommend that terms be spelled out here completely.


  • Buyer agrees that items may take some time to collect (as they are from a third-party and not a walmart-- this is not loganschyre we're dealing with here).
  • Buyer understands items may for some reason not be able to be collected as they are from a third party (last I checked there were quite  lot of customers ahead of Jake).
  • Seller agrees to front their own personal finances to purchase (Jake will buy them with his own cash first).
  • Both parties agree to a time limit on this so that there are no misunderstandings and minimal inconvenience (how is a deadline of 1 week from today?), after which the sale will be completely void regardless of whether Jake has already purchased the cards or not.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: shakaru on October 15, 2011, 06:04:09 AM
ill take all 1200 based on our previous arrangement. Waiting.

From what I can tell it's gonna take some time. The agent he's been dealing with is kind of an electronics dealer in the area and there are lots of customers ahead of him.

To avoid a potential "cluster fuck of retardation", I'd recommend that terms be spelled out here completely.


  • Buyer agrees that items may take some time to collect (as they are from a third-party and not a walmart-- this is not loganschyre we're dealing with here).
  • Buyer understands items may for some reason not be able to be collected as they are from a third party (last I checked there were quite  lot of customers ahead of Jake).
  • Seller agrees to front their own personal finances to purchase (Jake will buy them with his own cash first).
  • Both parties agree to a time limit on this so that there are no misunderstandings and minimal inconvenience (how is a deadline of 1 week from today?), after which the sale will be completely void regardless of whether Jake has already purchased the cards or not.

As I have said before, as long as someone tells me a time I can have my cards, I am game.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: CrazyGuy on October 15, 2011, 06:13:09 AM
...
You may have noticed that I have reputation for being a scammer here, I have changed and you can trust me any way you like
...
Beware of an admitted scammer saying they have "changed"... No doubt he may send something first but newegg will surely revoke them once they determine they've been purchased with stolen credit cards.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 06:19:10 AM
...
You may have noticed that I have reputation for being a scammer here, I have changed and you can trust me any way you like
...
Beware of an admitted scammer saying they have "changed"... No doubt he may send something first but newegg will revoke them once they determine they've been purchased with stolen credit cards.

Oh will they now? Go crawl back in your hole. I know where he's getting them from. If there is any issue, I'm covering it.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: CrazyGuy on October 15, 2011, 06:22:41 AM
...
You may have noticed that I have reputation for being a scammer here, I have changed and you can trust me any way you like
...
Beware of an admitted scammer saying they have "changed"... No doubt he may send something first but newegg will revoke them once they determine they've been purchased with stolen credit cards.

Oh will they now? Go crawl back in your hole. I know where he's getting them from. If there is any issue, I'm covering it.

Before I crawl into any holes, can you please explain how any legitimate business obtains newegg gift cards for 60% off face value? If this is 100% legit, could you also explain what issues you expect may come up for you to cover?


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: shakaru on October 15, 2011, 06:26:27 AM
Dont care either way. Ive been waiting for the cards I wanted. Dont see what the holdup is


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 06:30:08 AM
...
You may have noticed that I have reputation for being a scammer here, I have changed and you can trust me any way you like
...
Beware of an admitted scammer saying they have "changed"... No doubt he may send something first but newegg will revoke them once they determine they've been purchased with stolen credit cards.

Oh will they now? Go crawl back in your hole. I know where he's getting them from. If there is any issue, I'm covering it.

Before I crawl into any holes, can you please explain how any legitimate business obtains newegg gift cards for 60% off face value? If this is 100% legit, could you also explain what issues you expect may come up for you to cover?

If your argument was that the supplier to Jake might be obtaining the cards in an illegitimate manner, then phrase it that way and I'd be most happy to discuss what potential problems can arise from trusting third or even fourth parties with merchandise over the internet for that matter. I know Jake is going to put his own money up first to purchase and if the transaction holds up, has any difficulties or god forbid he got a hold of some bad cards, then he will bite the bullet. I'll make sure of it.


Dont care either way. Ive been waiting for the cards I wanted. Dont see what the holdup is

The hold up has already been explained.




Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: shakaru on October 15, 2011, 06:31:44 AM
...
You may have noticed that I have reputation for being a scammer here, I have changed and you can trust me any way you like
...
Beware of an admitted scammer saying they have "changed"... No doubt he may send something first but newegg will revoke them once they determine they've been purchased with stolen credit cards.

Oh will they now? Go crawl back in your hole. I know where he's getting them from. If there is any issue, I'm covering it.

Before I crawl into any holes, can you please explain how any legitimate business obtains newegg gift cards for 60% off face value? If this is 100% legit, could you also explain what issues you expect may come up for you to cover?

If your argument was that the supplier to Jake might not be above the level, then phrase it that way. I know Jake is not scamming anyone and I know I'm not going to let this thread turn into a witch hunt either, so as I said, if anything doesn't go 100% according to plan, I'll take full responsibility for it. (Note: I didn't know this thread was posted, but Jake is one of ours.)


Dont care either way. Ive been waiting for the cards I wanted. Dont see what the holdup is

The hold up has already been explained.




Ok fill my order then


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 06:34:41 AM
...
You may have noticed that I have reputation for being a scammer here, I have changed and you can trust me any way you like
...
Beware of an admitted scammer saying they have "changed"... No doubt he may send something first but newegg will revoke them once they determine they've been purchased with stolen credit cards.

Oh will they now? Go crawl back in your hole. I know where he's getting them from. If there is any issue, I'm covering it.

Before I crawl into any holes, can you please explain how any legitimate business obtains newegg gift cards for 60% off face value? If this is 100% legit, could you also explain what issues you expect may come up for you to cover?

If your argument was that the supplier to Jake might not be above the level, then phrase it that way. I know Jake is not scamming anyone and I know I'm not going to let this thread turn into a witch hunt either, so as I said, if anything doesn't go 100% according to plan, I'll take full responsibility for it. (Note: I didn't know this thread was posted, but Jake is one of ours.)


Dont care either way. Ive been waiting for the cards I wanted. Dont see what the holdup is

The hold up has already been explained.




Ok fill my order then

Do you mind telling me what rates/timeframe he gave you because I'm almost certain they're over zealous and wrong. It could take a week to get the cards and they're sold at a percentage of the value, there is no guarantee of the price at time of purchase for him.

EDIT: To clarify, it's one of those "someone sits at the market floor for hours to get the run off for a huge discount and then sells them off to others" deals. He's got to literally be there when it happens. That's the "hold-up".


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: CrazyGuy on October 15, 2011, 06:47:35 AM
...
If your argument was that the supplier to Jake might be obtaining the cards in an illegitimate manner, then phrase it that way and I'd be most happy to discuss what potential problems can arise from trusting third or even fourth parties with merchandise over the internet for that matter. I know Jake is going to put his own money up first to purchase and if the transaction holds up, has any difficulties or god forbid he got a hold of some bad cards, then he will bite the bullet. I'll make sure of it.
...

That was my assumption. If he had stolen the credit cards himself I'm sure the gift cards would have been out the door already. Could take a few weeks for newegg to be notified that the gift card was purchased with a stolen credit card. If you've already purchased something with it, I'm not sure how NewEgg would handle things at that point. They may send you an invoice, or report you to the authorities.

Come one month after the sale, is born again scammer Jake still going to be looking to improve his karma and return your money?


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 06:54:02 AM
Come one month after the sale, is born again scammer Jake still going to be looking to improve his karma and return your money?

Yes. Anything else?



Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: shakaru on October 15, 2011, 06:58:51 AM
$2000 newegg card for 200btc. Cards were supposed to be here now. Was to make payment once items ordered from newegg clear and I could pickup with the willcall or next day option. I will take any cards at that % rate.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 07:00:04 AM
$2000 newegg card for 200btc. Cards were supposed to be here now. Was to make payment once items ordered from newegg clear and I could pickup with the willcall or next day option. I will take any cards at that % rate.

He promised that the cards would be here today? Again, clearly over-zealous. He doesn't have the ability to make that promise since there is a high chance he may never get the cards (as I've now explained twice).


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: CrazyGuy on October 15, 2011, 07:08:40 AM
Come one month after the sale, is born again scammer Jake still going to be looking to improve his karma and return your money?

Yes. Anything else?



I guess that settles it, if the yes is underlined it must be true. I am kind of curious what your role is in this sale. I also noticed you defending user "terrytibbs" in another thread. He sold me a spotify membership a few weeks ago that was purchased with a stolen credit card. Are you the hero status member that gives credibility to shady deals without taking flak directly when things go wrong?


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 07:11:24 AM
Come one month after the sale, is born again scammer Jake still going to be looking to improve his karma and return your money?

Yes. Anything else?



I guess that settles it, if the yes is underlined it must be true. I am kind of curious what your role is in this sale. I also noticed you defending user "terrytibbs" in another thread. He sold me a spotify membership a few weeks ago that was purchased with a stolen credit card. Are you the hero status member that gives credibility to shady deals without taking flak directly when things go wrong?

Are you snorting coke as you type? Provide a link. I don't even know who that user is. Jake however I've taken under my wing so to speak.

EDIT: As for my role-- completely uninterested peacekeeper. This entire deal stinks, along with its presentation, but I'm here to make sure it doesn't end up in 20 users bashing someone for poor judgement.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: shakaru on October 15, 2011, 07:11:51 AM
$2000 newegg card for 200btc. Cards were supposed to be here now. Was to make payment once items ordered from newegg clear and I could pickup with the willcall or next day option. I will take any cards at that % rate.

He promised that the cards would be here today? Again, clearly over-zealous. He doesn't have the ability to make that promise since there is a high chance he may never get the cards (as I've now explained twice).

yes, ive heard you twice. and twice you have said you are somehow steeping in and setting this up. So I am saying twice. BUY F#%@*& $1200USD WORTH OF CARDS AND DONT F*()!@ BOTHER ME AGAIN UNTIL THEY ARE IN SOMEONE HANDS WHO CAN DELIVER!

I dont care if you reformed him. I already have no trust for both of you two based on the crap you have both pulled. I get your f@#%$@ week waiting time thing. No problem, just f$#%# get the cards. If you cant, delete this post. I dont want excuse, I dont want reason as to why your fraud scheme isnt working out. Just put up, or get out.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 07:17:14 AM
$2000 newegg card for 200btc. Cards were supposed to be here now. Was to make payment once items ordered from newegg clear and I could pickup with the willcall or next day option. I will take any cards at that % rate.

He promised that the cards would be here today? Again, clearly over-zealous. He doesn't have the ability to make that promise since there is a high chance he may never get the cards (as I've now explained twice).

yes, ive heard you twice. and twice you have said you are somehow steeping in and setting this up. So I am saying twice. BUY F#%@*& $1200USD WORTH OF CARDS AND DONT F*()!@ BOTHER ME AGAIN UNTIL THEY ARE IN SOMEONE HANDS WHO CAN DELIVER!

I dont care if you reformed him. I already have no trust for both of you two based on the crap you have both pulled. I get your f@#%$@ week waiting time thing. No problem, just f$#%# get the cards. If you cant, delete this post. I dont want excuse, I dont want reason as to why your fraud scheme isnt working out. Just put up, or get out.


I don't think we've had any run ins in the past, have we? I'm pretty sure I'm just not clued in to something Jake told you and you're reacting accordingly.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure Jake is sleeping right now but just for clarity, agreeing that you'll get the cards within 7 days is not what the agreement is. The agreement is that's as long as the deal is valid. I personally have little faith he'll even be able to get the cards (I've also mentioned this repeatedly). If that happens, you don't lose anything and Jake is embarrassed again on a forum where his track record is shit.

Horrible businessman, yes (he's 14). Scammer, no.

As for anyone's problems with me, see avatar.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: CrazyGuy on October 15, 2011, 07:21:46 AM
Come one month after the sale, is born again scammer Jake still going to be looking to improve his karma and return your money?

Yes. Anything else?



I guess that settles it, if the yes is underlined it must be true. I am kind of curious what your role is in this sale. I also noticed you defending user "terrytibbs" in another thread. He sold me a spotify membership a few weeks ago that was purchased with a stolen credit card. Are you the hero status member that gives credibility to shady deals without taking flak directly when things go wrong?

Are you snorting coke as you type? Provide a link. I don't even know who that user is. Jake however I've taken under my wing so to speak.

EDIT: As for my role-- completely uninterested peacekeeper. This entire deal stinks, along with its presentation, but I'm here to make sure it doesn't end up in 20 users bashing someone for poor judgement.

No coke snorting in crawl spaces. I was just looking through terrytibbs posts.

Speaking on your indignation of the "SCAMMER" tag
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47417.msg574673#msg574673

For an uninterested peacekeeper, you seem pretty interested in this deal. What's your cut?


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 07:23:51 AM
Come one month after the sale, is born again scammer Jake still going to be looking to improve his karma and return your money?

Yes. Anything else?



I guess that settles it, if the yes is underlined it must be true. I am kind of curious what your role is in this sale. I also noticed you defending user "terrytibbs" in another thread. He sold me a spotify membership a few weeks ago that was purchased with a stolen credit card. Are you the hero status member that gives credibility to shady deals without taking flak directly when things go wrong?

Are you snorting coke as you type? Provide a link. I don't even know who that user is. Jake however I've taken under my wing so to speak.

EDIT: As for my role-- completely uninterested peacekeeper. This entire deal stinks, along with its presentation, but I'm here to make sure it doesn't end up in 20 users bashing someone for poor judgement.

No coke snorting in crawl spaces. I was just looking through terrytibbs posts.

Speaking on your indignation of the "SCAMMER" tag
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47417.msg574673#msg574673

For an uninterested peacekeeper, you seem pretty interested in this deal. What's your cut?

My cut is having a jr developer that is a part of a much larger organization not fuck up everything he's worked on to build.

What's your cut for your paranoia?

EDIT: It seems that in that thread "coblee" was the only one whitenighting for that user.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: CrazyGuy on October 15, 2011, 07:34:50 AM
Come one month after the sale, is born again scammer Jake still going to be looking to improve his karma and return your money?

Yes. Anything else?



I guess that settles it, if the yes is underlined it must be true. I am kind of curious what your role is in this sale. I also noticed you defending user "terrytibbs" in another thread. He sold me a spotify membership a few weeks ago that was purchased with a stolen credit card. Are you the hero status member that gives credibility to shady deals without taking flak directly when things go wrong?

Are you snorting coke as you type? Provide a link. I don't even know who that user is. Jake however I've taken under my wing so to speak.

EDIT: As for my role-- completely uninterested peacekeeper. This entire deal stinks, along with its presentation, but I'm here to make sure it doesn't end up in 20 users bashing someone for poor judgement.

No coke snorting in crawl spaces. I was just looking through terrytibbs posts.

Speaking on your indignation of the "SCAMMER" tag
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47417.msg574673#msg574673

For an uninterested peacekeeper, you seem pretty interested in this deal. What's your cut?

My cut is having a jr developer that is a part of a much larger organization not fuck up everything he's worked on to build.

What's your cut for your paranoia?

Like you said, this deal stinks. I don't want to see anyone get scammed. Sounds like an interesting work environment though, I've never heard of a legitimate organization that encourages their junior developers to sell black market gift cards. I guess it's one way to keep your organization afloat in a down economy. Good luck!


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 07:42:35 AM
Come one month after the sale, is born again scammer Jake still going to be looking to improve his karma and return your money?

Yes. Anything else?



I guess that settles it, if the yes is underlined it must be true. I am kind of curious what your role is in this sale. I also noticed you defending user "terrytibbs" in another thread. He sold me a spotify membership a few weeks ago that was purchased with a stolen credit card. Are you the hero status member that gives credibility to shady deals without taking flak directly when things go wrong?

Are you snorting coke as you type? Provide a link. I don't even know who that user is. Jake however I've taken under my wing so to speak.

EDIT: As for my role-- completely uninterested peacekeeper. This entire deal stinks, along with its presentation, but I'm here to make sure it doesn't end up in 20 users bashing someone for poor judgement.

No coke snorting in crawl spaces. I was just looking through terrytibbs posts.

Speaking on your indignation of the "SCAMMER" tag
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47417.msg574673#msg574673

For an uninterested peacekeeper, you seem pretty interested in this deal. What's your cut?

My cut is having a jr developer that is a part of a much larger organization not fuck up everything he's worked on to build.

What's your cut for your paranoia?

Like you said, this deal stinks. I don't want to see anyone get scammed. Sounds like an interesting work environment though, I've never heard of a legitimate organization that encourages their junior developers to sell black market gift cards. I guess it's one way to keep your your organization afloat in a down economy. Good luck!

What kind of mental acrobatics must you be doing to continuously cherry-pick your conclusions from parts of messages you "like" and "don't like". I bet money you're a tweaker.

Can you find the part of my message that said I signed off on this or that I even knew he had posted it, much less encouraged him to? This is totally a private thing he decided to do on his own. The only reason I'm here is because I don't have any reason to believe his supplier is intending to defraud anyone, nor Jake any intention of defrauding anyone in the community. I'm also willing to cover any losses in the off chance something did happen unexpectedly, namely because I've already told Jake privately that this kind of business is only 'bad business', and he won't be doing anything like this in the future. That doesn't however change the fact that the offer is already out there, and that there is already a would be customer so...

If it's all the same to the community, I'd rather him delete this thread, but since he already has a would-be buyer, I told him that's twice as bad and twice as scammy looking.

It's up to you guys. I vote he apologize for wasting time, admit it was a bad business idea, and stop posting shit without checking with us first.

If you want to go through with it, stop arguing with me about it and wait for him to get the product. I'll be back if something happens.





Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: shakaru on October 15, 2011, 07:45:15 AM
Come one month after the sale, is born again scammer Jake still going to be looking to improve his karma and return your money?

Yes. Anything else?



I guess that settles it, if the yes is underlined it must be true. I am kind of curious what your role is in this sale. I also noticed you defending user "terrytibbs" in another thread. He sold me a spotify membership a few weeks ago that was purchased with a stolen credit card. Are you the hero status member that gives credibility to shady deals without taking flak directly when things go wrong?

Are you snorting coke as you type? Provide a link. I don't even know who that user is. Jake however I've taken under my wing so to speak.

EDIT: As for my role-- completely uninterested peacekeeper. This entire deal stinks, along with its presentation, but I'm here to make sure it doesn't end up in 20 users bashing someone for poor judgement.

No coke snorting in crawl spaces. I was just looking through terrytibbs posts.

Speaking on your indignation of the "SCAMMER" tag
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47417.msg574673#msg574673

For an uninterested peacekeeper, you seem pretty interested in this deal. What's your cut?

My cut is having a jr developer that is a part of a much larger organization not fuck up everything he's worked on to build.

What's your cut for your paranoia?

EDIT: It seems that in that thread "coblee" was the only one whitenighting for that user.

My cut was that I was told I would have my newegg gift codes in hand by a date, then a later date, and now not at all. As far as my dealings with Jake, I was told that it was now impossible for him to get any cards at all. Fine, if he cant get any at all, thats great. But if he all of a sudden can as you claim, Ive already taken a loss as he strung me along with bogus claims, so I want to order what ever the max amount that I can. Thats all I care about. If Jake is putting up his money for these at the rate we discussed, then get going on it.
Secondly, as a above, you said "You will take responsibility and facilitate whats going on here". So get on it. Take responsibility, order the codes, get him to order the codes, get him to do something. I dont really care what happens. Or shut up.
You stated that he has $1200 above and willing to put it up front. Then I order $1200 worth for 120btc or 12qty $100 codes for 10btc each. Ill even order 1qty $100 code for 10btc. Just do something and stop talking out your ass.



Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: astana on October 15, 2011, 07:50:29 AM
I'm sorry but are you fucking dumb as dog shit? saving a promising programer? What a load of shit, call it as you see it... a total moron who would probably shoot himself in the dick if he had a gun..

Maybe little wanna be hacker script kiddy is more like it,  probably buying raped skimmed CC's of some shady cunt in a net cafe located in Pakistan who's already sold the cards 4 times over. Or I bet he's been promised some killer deal if he sends a Western Union payment to "Momahad AL Fucking funding Terrorist"  money-changer scumbag..... again in that beautiful country called Pakistan or the Middle-East.

You must be trolling to defend this crap, or maybe your the one selling him the CC's eh? This kid is not the second coming of bill gates, and to defend this shit is pathetic.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 07:51:21 AM


My cut was that I was told I would have my newegg gift codes in hand by a date, then a later date, and now not at all. As far as my dealings with Jake, I was told that it was now impossible for him to get any cards at all. Fine, if he cant get any at all, thats great. But if he all of a sudden can as you claim, Ive already taken a loss as he strung me along with bogus claims, so I want to order what ever the max amount that I can. Thats all I care about. If Jake is putting up his money for these at the rate we discussed, then get going on it.
Secondly, as a above, you said "You will take responsibility and facilitate whats going on here". So get on it. Take responsibility, order the codes, get him to order the codes, get him to do something. I dont really care what happens. Or shut up.
You stated that he has $1200 above and willing to put it up front. Then I order $1200 worth for 120btc or 12qty $100 codes for 10btc each. Ill even order 1qty $100 code for 10btc. Just do something and stop talking out your ass.



Considering your posting style is that of a 12 year old, I don't know why I assumed your reading comprehension would be any different. I'd repeat slowly for you.

Please read the following sentence three times in a row outloud for clarity.

Jake does not have the codes in his possession but believes in good faith he can get them.

Jake is willing to put up his own money to get them, but as I have explained to you in PM he only has a small window of time to place his orders with the agent before they are all sold out.

It is not a matter of me "ordering". This is not my transaction. Fuck you. This is a matter of Jake being asleep right now. When he wakes up, he will try again (after going to school I assume).

As for him promising you by a certain date, he's a fucking idiot for doing so. I don't know why he did that.

You can stop reading the sentences three times in a row outloud now.

I've specifically told Jake that it would only hurt his reputation more if he pulled back after the fact of having offered something, but given the only 2 participants in this thread have already decided that he's a scammer, that I'm a scammer, and that this whole thing is a bad idea, I guess there's nothing left to lose and I'm just making the situation worse.

I'm gonna go with my first instincts now as I told him in PM "You fucking idiot, why would you do such a thing?" and just tell him to lock this thread. I see absolutely no benefit from continuing it if he doesn't have the cards in his hands right now.




Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 07:52:28 AM
I'm sorry but are you fucking dumb as dog shit? saving a promising programer? What a load of shit, call it as you see it... a total moron who would probably shoot himself in the dick if he had a gun..

Maybe little wanna be hacker script kiddy is more like it,  probably buying raped skimmed CC's of some shady cunt in a net cafe located in Pakistan who's already sold the cards 4 times over. Or I bet he's been promised some killer deal if he sends a Western Union payment to "Momahad AL Fucking funding Terrorist"  money-changer scumbag..... again in that beautiful country called Pakistan or the Middle-East.

You must be trolling to defend this crap, or maybe your the one selling him the CC's eh? This kid is not the second coming of bill gates, and to defend this shit is pathetic.

Oh good. I'm glad you're here. Now when anyone looks up this thread they'll KNOW it's not worth reading.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: CrazyGuy on October 15, 2011, 07:56:13 AM
Come one month after the sale, is born again scammer Jake still going to be looking to improve his karma and return your money?

Yes. Anything else?



I guess that settles it, if the yes is underlined it must be true. I am kind of curious what your role is in this sale. I also noticed you defending user "terrytibbs" in another thread. He sold me a spotify membership a few weeks ago that was purchased with a stolen credit card. Are you the hero status member that gives credibility to shady deals without taking flak directly when things go wrong?

Are you snorting coke as you type? Provide a link. I don't even know who that user is. Jake however I've taken under my wing so to speak.

EDIT: As for my role-- completely uninterested peacekeeper. This entire deal stinks, along with its presentation, but I'm here to make sure it doesn't end up in 20 users bashing someone for poor judgement.

No coke snorting in crawl spaces. I was just looking through terrytibbs posts.

Speaking on your indignation of the "SCAMMER" tag
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47417.msg574673#msg574673

For an uninterested peacekeeper, you seem pretty interested in this deal. What's your cut?

My cut is having a jr developer that is a part of a much larger organization not fuck up everything he's worked on to build.

What's your cut for your paranoia?

Like you said, this deal stinks. I don't want to see anyone get scammed. Sounds like an interesting work environment though, I've never heard of a legitimate organization that encourages their junior developers to sell black market gift cards. I guess it's one way to keep your your organization afloat in a down economy. Good luck!

What kind of mental acrobatics must you be doing to continuously cherry-pick your conclusions from parts of messages you "like" and "don't like". I bet money you're a tweaker.

Can you find the part of my message that said I signed off on this or that I even knew he had posted it, much less encouraged him to? This is totally a private thing he decided to do on his own. The only reason I'm here is because I don't have any reason to believe his supplier is intending to defraud anyone, nor Jake any intention of defrauding anyone in the community. I'm also willing to cover any losses in the off chance something did happen unexpectedly, namely because I've already told Jake privately that this kind of business is only 'bad business', and he won't be doing anything like this in the future. That doesn't however change the fact that the offer is already out there, and that there is already a would be customer so...

If it's all the same to the community, I'd rather him delete this thread, but since he already has a would-be buyer, I told him that's twice as bad and twice as scammy looking.

It's up to you guys. I vote he apologize for wasting time, admit it was a bad business idea, and stop posting shit without checking with us first.

If you want to go through with it, stop arguing with me about it and wait for him to get the product. I'll be back if something happens.





Ok, I get it now.. You're like a mob boss and Lil' Jakey is a "friend of yours" but not yet a "friend of the family". You specialize in robbing big banks but Jakey has gone off and robbed a small time motel and killed a hooker. You're gonna vouch for him cause if he screws up you'll both be swimming with the fishes.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 07:59:57 AM
Ok, I get it now.. You're like a mob boss and Lil' Jakey is a "friend of yours" but not yet a "friend of the family". You specialize in robbing big banks but Jakey has gone off and robbed a small time motel and killed a hooker. You're gonna vouch for him cause if he screws up you'll both be swimming with the fishes.

Almost done with your line of coke?


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: astana on October 15, 2011, 10:48:43 AM
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Jake does not have the codes in his possession but believes in good faith he can get them.

Jake is willing to put up his own money to get them, but as I have explained to you in PM he only has a small window of time to place his orders with the agent before they are all sold out.

What a joke, and your meant to be looking after this kid? Come on smarten the fuck up & tell him to stop this now before he loses all his money. NO ONE is going to get 40 cents on the dollar for gift cards on this board,  those who actually can are pissing themselves with laughter reading this.

And you better back his loses 100%, when you stand by someone YOU STAND TALL. 14 year old kid should not be put in this position or dealing in this shady crap, do you know what happens when shit like this goes down in real life, you get a couple of broken fingers if your lucky.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 15, 2011, 11:03:59 AM
What a joke, and your meant to be looking after this kid? Come on smarten the fuck up & tell him to stop this now before he loses all his money.
But of course you couldn't know what has transpired in private message. Allow me to paste the very first thing I messaged him when I found  this thread.

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Matthew N. Wright: WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU


NO ONE is going to get 40 cents on the dollar for gift cards on this board,  those who actually can are pissing themselves with laughter reading this.
No, he's not pissing himself in laughter. I'm pretty sure he's asleep.

And you better back his loses 100%
Why would I back his losses dipshit? I'll back anyone else's loses due to this nightmare exchange, but he's going to have to learn sooner or later that "since you're considered a scammer on the forums now, don't post sales for things without checking with us first to see if it's a good idea or not" actually means "since you're considered a scammer on the forums now, don't post sales for things without checking with us first to see if it's a good idea or not" and not just "go ahead and do what you want now that everyone's not looking".

14 year old kid should not be put in this position or dealing in this shady crap,
Are you and shakaru snorting together, sharing the same line perhaps? I'm here to clean this mess up. As I said already, this offer is closed and I'm having him lock the thread. I was willing to facilitate on the chance it would boost his reputation, but I wasn't aware he had already promised someone a timeline.

Do you know what happens when shit like this goes down in real life, you get a couple of broken fingers if your lucky.
Thug lyfe!``1

Appreciate the understanding though from all the people here who have absolutely nothing to do with the transaction between shakaru and Jake. Pretty sure I only care about what shakaru thought, but since he's one of those dry, illiterate types who judges people by their trolling personas (hilarious) I really don't care anymore.

Suffice to say, this little stunt has taught me that raising a kid through the interwebs is hard. How will I ground him? :(



Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: astana on October 15, 2011, 11:21:58 AM
You better back the kid's loses,not any one else. They are tools for buying into it in the first place, gullible idiots.

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Suffice to say, this little stunt has taught me that raising a kid through the interwebs is hard. How will I ground him? Sad

Tell him his word is all you have in this world, if you are honest to yourself but admit your mistakes when you have to you will become a better person. We all have done some dirty shit we are not proud off but we move on and learn from your mistakes.

Trust me if he does want to go down the path of dealing with these people who are no better than scum he won't last long. 14 year old's should be wanking of to porn and sneaking booze out of his parents liquor cabinet not selling $1200 gift cards.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: senbonzakura on October 23, 2011, 06:36:52 AM
got your gift cards shakaru ?



Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: shakaru on October 23, 2011, 07:59:09 AM
nope. No reply from jake on text either. Ive given up. If I had ordered the items I wanted on newegg, I would have save $834.98 in total over what the price difference for what I needed to buy changed in sale price in the time it took jake to tell me he could not take care of my order (4 days total of run around). I remember someone saying they were taking responsibility for jake, but they never said how so I guess that was just more smoke up our collective asses.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on October 23, 2011, 09:43:16 AM
nope. No reply from jake on text either. Ive given up. If I had ordered the items I wanted on newegg, I would have save $834.98 in total over what the price difference for what I needed to buy changed in sale price in the time it took jake to tell me he could not take care of my order (4 days total of run around). I remember someone saying they were taking responsibility for jake, but they never said how so I guess that was just more smoke up our collective asses.

Sorry to hear that Jake didn't get ahold of you. Why he hasn't announced that he is no longer selling this and locked this thread is beyond me.

He has been continuously unable to get the product from the supplier (as I had already said would probably happen). Luckily, no one has spent any money on this and there were no losses.

Jake is e-grounded in the sense he's not allowed to even post on this forums anymore without getting confirmation from us. If he does, he's basically on his own again.

Thanks for looking out guys. He's definitely not a bad kid, but he's still got a whole lot to learn. For all purposes sake, this thread is closed.





Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: astana on October 23, 2011, 02:40:30 PM
yeah please look out for the young chap.

and everyone who does see threads selling gift cards at 40% retail know 95% you will get scammed & the other 5 they are carded/stolen credit card bought and will get canceled.


Title: Re: Deleted thread #1.
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2011, 03:41:55 PM
I would like the one for 10btc. I will pm you.