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Title: Considerations on bounties and abusers with some data at hand - 2k alts accounts Post by: Makkara on August 04, 2018, 11:02:39 AM I was looking for connections between user accounts though ethereum addresses, abusers joining bounties with alts. Let me give you a little insight of what is going on with the bounties of a random project, for this i picked PoolOfStake.
To go to the point, this is what i discovered. These are connected forum accounts, alts, found in the airdrop spreadsheet ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LOv2BdbiZObov3Hi8d2x37m8So68iD9DPe1AdhY6DgA/edit#gid=755513439 ) and the head master behind it, the transactions are the amount of transactions made with the connected addresses discovered, in some case is a huge amount: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1038415 (thugpi) Users connected: 503 Transactions: 6172 Address: 0x49db9dc8391ffd93d957d0188166b25b124b7343 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1170328 (anupu) Users connected: 502 Transactions: 7585 Address: 0x715d4b5180fd31ab9abaf63646c6afdb3ce37a3c https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1153397 (Hans17) Users connected: 453 Transactions: 2042 Address: 0xa02e73a0564874cd17b82669e72dae170acf0371 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14350 (Amechan) Users connected: 164 Transactions: 1532 Address: 0x995a2b79a3faa190031d6394ae50b0a91978d739 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1347980 (agung1933) Users connected: 64 Transactions: 362 Address: 0x87741bdbc3e01fbed29caead759734da7f1336dc https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1348552 (MollyMoon2217) Users connected: 44 Transactions: 152 Address: 0xe13a15893164dec27fb79f73f8465e4f49af5ad6 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1728637 (tutupkeler31) Users connected: 37 Transactions: 58 Address: 0x0020a3fac2e098b98c1addae74fd1d18a60aad7e https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1728532 (dulang) Users connected: 34 Transactions: 35 Address: 0x74c1babf5da6caca141b15ee7ed1d81c83ade5a0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=910979 (Avametra) Users connected: 29 Transactions: 42 Address: 0xfe52f5724bd7543bd7069f4774067feff29328f8 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1859394 (wahyu0502) Users connected: 23 Transactions: 68 Address: 0x2de308a554192852cbae7c93e13217b997019540 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1141451 (RandeeColemanc1911) Users connected: 14 Transactions: 40 Address: 0x5c87131f5610c0e58eb9de55e3a4daa737f3e90c https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1259891 (ir.hn) Users connected: 13 Transactions: 18 Address: 0x8d485ebd4d812032da243fe1d4ce3973a3432c77 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=513850 (Trela) Users connected: 11 Transactions: 66 Address: 0xc607a870e9cc8477030b7866adf1fb0cd62be7aa,0x51982ace11f26e3093e35a492dbcf2bec2f0fdea .... full list here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gkxg1PGYQKPAydjdWvMxFByPLrs9mk2o/view?usp=sharing Proofs with the transactions in here along with the alts (13MB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=1g_CXMOrZlDcVYpDyN71oBiWYKy0CGGLk This is some real shit going on and it's completely ridiculous, this is happening undisturbed in many bounties, i can just imagine what happen in the very popular one. In general i would advise anyone who is participating a bounty where something like this goes down and abusers get paid, with the bounty manager doing absolutely nothing, to give him a negative trust feedback, if you want actually change things. This simply because like for a regular trade, this person agree to pay you for your services, whatever they are, except you get paid less since they give away value to scammers/abuser due to their sloppy work. Point is everyone need to take his responsibilities, is as simple as that. If you are a bounty manager you need to step up your game and pardon me, wake the fuck up. There is no reason why this should happen and there are way to prevent it, the most obvious solution is to accept participant which got a minimum amount of merits. Stop this shit you are creating somehow. By the way, by solving this, the spam may be reduced too, if somebody has 500 alts it will use them in other ways to make more money, likely by generating more spam. By reporting users spamming we just cure a disease without going to the root of the problem, spammers spam because they get paid to do it. The bounty managers need to be on board and take responsibility for this. That's all i have to say. Title: Re: Considerations on bounties and abusers with some data at hand - 2k alts accounts Post by: jackg on August 04, 2018, 12:27:29 PM Did you inform the bounty manager? If not then it's probably a good idea to do so. If they have a rule against doing this, they should reallly be competant enough to check it.
The moderators won't do anything as they haven't broken any forum rules per se. Title: Re: Considerations on bounties and abusers with some data at hand - 2k alts accounts Post by: Makkara on August 04, 2018, 12:35:57 PM Did you inform the bounty manager? If not then it's probably a good idea to do so. If they have a rule against doing this, they should reallly be competant enough to check it. The moderators won't do anything as they haven't broken any forum rules per se. Yes I already sent a pm to the manager. I believe that sooner or later these 2k alts will be used to spam the forum eventually and this is just a drop in the ocean. Title: Re: Considerations on bounties and abusers with some data at hand - 2k alts accounts Post by: TMAN on August 04, 2018, 12:41:34 PM this is more a rep issue than meta fella.
Title: Re: Considerations on bounties and abusers with some data at hand - 2k alts accounts Post by: Makkara on August 04, 2018, 01:59:31 PM this is more a rep issue than meta fella. Till the alt get weaponized and used to spam the forum. If you have 500 alts you don't use them just to participate in an airdrop. In any case is already reported in reputation as well. Title: Re: Considerations on bounties and abusers with some data at hand - 2k alts accounts Post by: target on August 04, 2018, 02:36:04 PM 500 alts in telegram is already impossible. I wonder how that user got 2k telegram account when each account has to be verify by mobile nmber. Does it mean he has 2k phones too? Amazing how they come up with tons of account. He can really be richer by the time tokens are distributed. Is PoolOfStake a real token with value? Title: Re: Considerations on bounties and abusers with some data at hand - 2k alts accounts Post by: jackg on August 04, 2018, 02:56:13 PM this is more a rep issue than meta fella. I agree, I wrote that at first but it seemed a bit to aggressive/confrontational the way I wrote it so I thought it best to remove... Yes I already sent a pm to the manager. Yes but we can't do anything until they do and they probably will remain in the altcoin section which has a high deficit of moderators based on the number of spammers (I mean users) that post there. I believe that sooner or later these 2k alts will be used to spam the forum eventually and this is just a drop in the ocean. 500 alts in telegram is already impossible. I wonder how that user got 2k telegram account when each account has to be verify by mobile nmber. Does it mean he has 2k phones too? You can get PAYG sims for free in a lot of countries normally... Till the alt get weaponized and used to spam the forum. If you have 500 alts you don't use them just to participate in an airdrop. They're not going to go unnoticed with that number of alts if they keep posting. They'll all just get stuck at Jr Member anyway unless they find a good way to plagiarise posts. In any case is already reported in reputation as well. Duplicate posting is against the rules... |