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They are playing us.  Why would they want things to be decentralized?   They are saying they are going to invest, to get people to go long on the market, while they make a ton on shorting it.  It seems about 70 billion has left the market in the last two weeks, all the time when the media was hyping about Wall Street money coming in. 

We have to bring more money in, just like in the beginning.

More money from retail investors ? That will not happen any time soon people are scared because nobody can tell where prices can fall.If i will go on street and will ask people about cryptocurrency they will laugh on me,they have crypto associated with bubble and scams.

demands, now cryptocurrency need more demands,,
if the demands increase i believe the price of crypto will increase too
demands will create interest, and investors will start buying  ;)

Same thing here. I even deleted the shares I did.


Not going to happen now. Government are seeing what is currently going on and so its clearly not the kind of asset that SEC will approve.
I don't think this market is going to help anyone now. But I have save myself from getting out and sold my BTC and ETH. I'm buying myself a piece of land to make my real business to not depend on coins.

You have to look at the gains in the microcaps.  Sort on percentage gain on Coinmarketcap.  Coins are still going up from 20% to 100%.  High percentage low entry staking coins are the original spirit of cryptocurrency where people can create their own value at home.  If we taught people to do this, we'd have the personal economic revolution that some of us need and the big investors clearly do not.  Plus, it's a great way to distribute a blockchain.

good choice there bro,
i would like to do that too,but in my country those kind of things are expensive.
crypto is very unpredictable lately or should i say that anybody who want to play with it must be brave enough.
because the possibility we can make any profit from it is nearly 0 if we are looking at it from our current market.
the price is declined a lot when people are expecting it to go higher,and the price is increased a lot when people are expecting it to go lower from that point.

It is hard to gain that much demand as of now since the market is way more than unpredictable, it cannot be manipulated by any means and the way it move is affecting the overall demand. The only way market can recover and bring more money is that it proves its volatility without that market will still be the same.

Of course this is the way how to achieve more on the market, but now with the unstable situation it's quite hard even to hold trader's trust, not bring more of it. The coins project have to figure out a new way how to bring more invests to the market.

Well we all know that whales sometimes play the market, so we cannot do anything about it. We cannot bring more money since most people here are individual investors and not as rich as those who are holding a lot of cryptocurrency. We just need something big, great news, and events to boost the market demand.

We we need is new players or investors in the market the problem right now is that when the crytocurrency created the hype last year there are many investors that don't even know what cryptocurrency is and when the prices dipped it created a lot of negativity because these people don't know how the market works and we need these people to elevate the prices right now.

there is a way to bring more money to this industry by create a positive feedback to crypto world
always spread the word about crypto with all the advantages of cryptocurrencies
so, all people will see a big opportunities in this industry,,

I have also suspected that there has been a lot of manipulation on the market right now, my guess is right, investors are running away from crypto with a lot of money, finally greedy people always create chaos, it is very annoying, will all be back in 2019? the market will continue to grow.

If U.S. etfs can pass, that would give bitcoin a huge source of money.
The reason why people are attracted to invest in bitcoin is that it is more convenient to use after the deployment of the lightning network.

If they pass etfs that would bring a lot of money in the market but as of right now it doesn't seem too good but nothing is happening and I wouldn't be too concerned about it. wait till we have another buyers run and it's coming. what goes down must go up.

It is more that we bring some trust into the market. After a little news, we can see a big dump in the price of Bitcoin. We need that the whole cryptocurrency market is based on trust.

How you do this, trust in such conditions to the market is minimal, and whales in principle such a state is profitable. They are waiting for new investors, new blood to make money on them.

Now is not the time when a crowd of private will raise the market, you need an input of smart money for raising.

More money from retail investors will not give the market the needed boost. Institutional investors are what we need and this can only be made possible now by ETF approvals as they (investors) will have the needed confidence in the market.

a few days I have realized that cryptocurrency is a game, crypto is similar to video games, I think this game will end soon, because many people have left this game, some people survive because they don't want to lose more and hope their money will come back even those who expect their money to increase, I think cryptocurrency is full of fraud.

This is definitely what all participants need to see, but without the thoughts of the whales, this is just a hope. Please stay optimistic and patient.

They are playing us, that's for sure, decentralization has always been the enemy of banks and all these big players of the financial system. MONEY is also what they want and control, so don't worry they are already bringing it all in, you don't have to worry about it. They invested long before they said they would, and they will continue to milk their centralized systems, while guys like us and you buy into their centralized tokens.

The money that's left is all from us, too. The banks still have it in, they can make more anyway.

If only we will joining force,making single stand together investing our money and never get affected of the FUD and fake news ..i am sure these manipulator can do us no harm guys imagine the volume of money we can bring here compared to the capacity of those whales the market will be stable and function as what the past cryptocurrency market does..never become a weak handed members and trust all the coin you bought even if this are dumping theres a chance of coming back maybe not too fast but it will eventually

Well, it seems to me that during the past month, many small investors sold their coins, this is especially evident on the example of the fall of Ethereum, which means their strategy is wrong.

I am sure that the money will come to the cryptocurrency again and the situations will change. there will many people will come and join in the crypto like before and I think it will not too long to wait for this. and if people out there think that the crypto can give many benefits to them, they will come back again and invest their money and in that time, we can see the crypto market will rise again. I am not too worry about this as I know the crypto will stay for a long time with us.

They don't need our money because crowd has small amounts. They need big money of many ICOs so manipulators dump crypto market to force ICOs sell their funds cheap (force to make panic sell). Statistics: ICOs raised about $6B in 2017 and $6B in 2018!

Come on, do we need more investors or some fat cats from Wall Street to come to crypto? No, the only thing we actually need is simple people using cryptocurrency in real life. And that's exactly what Vitalik Buterin and other great minds of crypto say.

https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1023571651865137152

This tweet by Vitalik got 11k likes, but still I see so many topics here about the importance of bringing some abstract "big money" to crypto, not creating conditions when people will feel confortable to use crypto for payments/salaries

I also think the same as you, but I'm late and all my assets are still in the form of btc and other alt. Now I'm confused, does the bearish continue until the end of the year?

The choice to leave the market is a safe option. It can help you stabilize your life. But this market will continue in the future. Sec delayed ETF is a sad thing but they really are seriously considering it. This market will continue going up after overcoming this period

You are right volume is the key here, if more money comes and volume crosses previous high range we will see each and every coin growing nicely and all investors will become happy, i know many investors who bought btc and eth near their highs and now sitting and waiting for months for the market to move again to those levels.

I have also seen many reports about Wall Street funds, but I am not sensitive to these news. I have not increased my investment because of such news! From the recent market situation, these should belong to the operation of whales / sharks!

be strong.. thanks god I cashed out some before this sever dip. But now it is right time to get more BTC or ETH.

Its very clear that they are setting us up, a bull run and when everyone feels confident that the market is on the road to recovery, those manipulators started to short then followed by panic. I guess we really need to learn our lessons ASAP.



The only problem I see is where the money should came from? There's no one willing to pour big cash right now because of the market situation. And no big news to back it up, unlike last year when Japan enters the crypto sphere, everyone wanted to join and FOMO and then those institutional investors put a big hype, but now it died down and we can even say that they have something to do with this bear season.

I wonder what happened after the 2014 bear. How did the market recovered itself? Who entered the market?
Right now all I hear is people saying that bitcoin was only a bubble and they are happy that they didn't invest in it.

i think they are waiting for a dipper market before investing in full force, especially the big players in the market. Where in the small time investors are going in the flow of market and holding their fiat money until this big investors start moving again.

More money in the market, so that the price in the market will pump if there are only a few who buy will make the price dump, we should put more money so that we can earn big and we will not lose what we have invested on it.

Why did it grow without institutional investors before?

Crypto market is very new and also little in cap compared to traditional financial market caps. So, people that leave or more people that join won't make huge differences.