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Title: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: Elwar on February 26, 2014, 07:45:21 AM
This all feels a lot like what happened after Silk Road was busted.

The price was around $120, then crashed down to around $90/BTC. The media hailed it as the end of Bitcoin.
The next day the price came back up to $120 and kept climbing. The media still kept talking about how Bitcoin was finished.

Within two months, the price of Bitcoin was over $1,200.

Now after MtGox goes away.
The price was around $550 then crashed to around $400/BTC. The media hails it as the end of Bitcoin.
The next day the price comes back up over $550 and keeps climbing. The media still keep talking about how Bitcoin is finished.

Within two months, price of Bitcoin over $5,500?


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: podyx on February 26, 2014, 07:47:01 AM
possible but i dont think we will see $5k till summer


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: CrusaderTim on February 26, 2014, 07:47:42 AM
“Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful”

― Warren Buffett


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: Elwar on February 26, 2014, 07:49:14 AM
“Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful”

― Warren Buffett

"Cheesburger in paradise."

-- Jimmy Buffett


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: sidhujag on February 26, 2014, 07:50:46 AM
“Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful”

― Warren Buffett

You arent really promoting yourself as being so knowledgable with that quote in this context.

I think it depends on the reality of the 750k btc... If its truly gone and sold off then all dips qre priced in and we have a supply shortcome ehich exasbarates price inclines. if someone has those 750k I dont expect price to rise that far that fast.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: cAPSLOCK on February 26, 2014, 08:08:34 AM
“Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful”

― Warren Buffett

"Cheesburger in paradise."

-- Jimmy Buffett

"In a Gadda da Vida honey..."

--Iron Butterfly


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: Mythul on February 26, 2014, 08:11:55 AM
Hell....it's about time.  ;D


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: threecats on February 26, 2014, 08:15:17 AM
doo bee doo bee doo bee doo

- Sinatra


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: efarah2549 on February 26, 2014, 08:19:25 AM
I'm the scatman

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Do bam do

Bada bwi ba ba bada bo
Baba ba da bo
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- Scatman John


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: akujin on February 26, 2014, 08:39:45 AM
Sometimes when I close my eyes, I can't see...

-Confuseyouz


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: doctor877 on February 26, 2014, 08:44:45 AM
What I think is intresting to see, is that if the ones getting burned on the Gox incident, are going to rebuy some of their stash back, or just get out of bitcoin.  Because there must be people who lost all their bitcoins, and still they realize bitcoin huge potential. So this might start the next mini rally, before the big investors jump in.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: sshapiroNJ on February 26, 2014, 08:51:20 AM
What I think is intresting to see, is that if the ones getting burned on the Gox incident, are going to rebuy some of their stash back, or just get out of bitcoin.  Because there must be people who lost all their bitcoins, and still they realize bitcoin huge potential. So this might start the next mini rally, before the big investors jump in.

Totally agree.  The time of agressive game is coming as people who lost theit money are now fearless cause they've already lost a lot and going to do everything in all their might


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: doctor877 on February 26, 2014, 09:00:51 AM
But if the gox coins are really gone, they got 2 choices, either give up, or buy more. The latter choice will bring loads of more demand to market.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: Hyena on February 26, 2014, 09:39:47 AM
"Size only matters when you're full grown, baby!"

-- Duke Nukem

http://www.the-games-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/duke-nukem-forever-demo-wkrotce_1743b.jpg

Is bitcoin full grown yet? Hell no!

edit:
fixed a typo


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: trcwhale on February 26, 2014, 09:45:16 AM
No way.

It is already tanking hard for people to invest into this so much uncertainty.

 



Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: CrusaderTim on February 26, 2014, 10:00:03 AM
"Bubble, bubble, bubble POP!"

- HYUNA


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: cosmofly on February 26, 2014, 10:04:05 AM
Elwar u will cry a sea of ur own blood

CRY



Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: SpeculateThis on February 27, 2014, 03:04:26 AM
CCMF!


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: proudhon on February 27, 2014, 03:08:37 AM
"The bitcoin price goes down sometimes, but then goes back up later."

-Proudhon


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: chesthing on February 27, 2014, 03:12:40 AM
$5500 this year is completely delusional. I really hope someone ends up posting my response to prove me wrong, but thinking that will happen is, again, delusional.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: proudhon on February 27, 2014, 03:13:33 AM
"$5500 this year is completely delusional. I hope really someone ends up posting my response to prove me wrong, but thinking that will happen is, again, delusional."

-chesthing


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: BIGMERVE on February 27, 2014, 03:14:29 AM
$5500 this year is completely delusional. I really hope someone ends up posting my response to prove me wrong, but thinking that will happen is, again, delusional.


To be fair people were saying 1200 was delusional.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: chesthing on February 27, 2014, 03:15:40 AM
"$5500 this year is completely delusional. I hope really someone ends up posting my response to prove me wrong, but thinking that will happen is, again, delusional."

-chesthing
Wouldn't it make more sense to repeat my post after it has hit $5500?


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: EatonABooger on February 27, 2014, 03:16:57 AM
Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future.
(Niels Bohr)


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: ScrapOfCat on February 27, 2014, 03:41:10 AM
Like every other ATH before, the next one will leave us all with our chins dragging on the floor.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: SpeculateThis on February 27, 2014, 04:46:28 AM
Like every other ATH before, the next one will leave us all with our chins dragging on the floor.
Exactly. No use trying to pretend you are a crystal ball reader.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: lyth0s on February 27, 2014, 05:27:56 AM
Honestly I think the price of bitcoin could easily hit $5000 if any of the following occur:

1) A country in financial trouble adopts it
2) Merchants rapidly adopt it as a payment option
3) Becomes easily spendable in brick and motor stores (IE QR code scanning to pay for your shirt/beer/groceries etc)
4) There is collapse of a major currency
5) There is massive inflation or "quantitative easing" of a fiat currency

IMO stating that bitcoins will never hit $5000.....is.....well, delusional :D


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: smoothie on February 27, 2014, 08:34:21 AM
Let's revisit this thread at the end of the year.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: Feri22 on February 27, 2014, 08:45:11 AM
$5500 this year is completely delusional. I really hope someone ends up posting my response to prove me wrong, but thinking that will happen is, again, delusional.


To be fair people were saying 1200 was delusional.

People were saying 100 USD was delusional...


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: jl2012 on February 27, 2014, 08:58:07 AM
According to my theory here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470453.msg5398380#msg5398380 , you won't see an ATH at 5500 until the longterm trend line reaches 5500/4.48 = 1227. This won't happen before August.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: Elwar on February 27, 2014, 09:14:45 AM
According to my theory here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470453.msg5398380#msg5398380 , you won't see an ATH at 5500 until the longterm trend line reaches 5500/4.48 = 1227. This won't happen before August.

Your theory needs to use 1337 to be even cooler.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: podyx on February 27, 2014, 09:24:49 AM
$5500 this year is completely delusional. I really hope someone ends up posting my response to prove me wrong, but thinking that will happen is, again, delusional.


To be fair people were saying 1200 was delusional.

people probably thought $1 was delusional back when price was $0.01


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: jl2012 on February 27, 2014, 09:34:07 AM
According to my theory here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470453.msg5398380#msg5398380 , you won't see an ATH at 5500 until the longterm trend line reaches 5500/4.48 = 1227. This won't happen before August.

Your theory needs to use 1337 to be even cooler.

1337 will bring us to 6000  ;D


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: TERA on February 27, 2014, 09:46:25 AM
What if the next ATH... is $1243.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: eiprol on February 27, 2014, 12:03:00 PM
"The bitcoin price goes down sometimes, but then goes back up later."

-Proudhon

but... is that confirmed?


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: jamesc760 on February 27, 2014, 12:24:12 PM
Confirmed.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: 600watt on February 27, 2014, 12:31:15 PM
"The bitcoin price goes down sometimes, but then goes back up later."

-Proudhon


can you confirm the source ?


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on February 27, 2014, 12:38:15 PM
Quote
Wouldn't it make more sense to repeat my post after it has hit $5500?

It makes sense to quote a post before it's deleted.

It also makes nonsense (in a good way) to expand a thread meme (quoting "wisdom" from "famous" investors), but I dishonor the effort by trying to explain it.



Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on February 27, 2014, 12:42:53 PM
Quote
Your theory needs to use 1337 to be even cooler (00134.

F7FY



Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: lovekfc on February 27, 2014, 12:43:54 PM
$5500 this year is completely delusional. I really hope someone ends up posting my response to prove me wrong, but thinking that will happen is, again, delusional.


next year ;D


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: Paashaas on February 27, 2014, 01:37:07 PM
"$5500 this year is completely delusional. I hope really someone ends up posting my response to prove me wrong, but thinking that will happen is, again, delusional."

-chesthing

After more than 900 posts and still not knowing how Bitcoin economics works...pffff. Troll more?

Honestly I think the price of bitcoin could easily hit $5000 if any of the following occur:

1) A country in financial trouble adopts it
2) Merchants rapidly adopt it as a payment option
3) Becomes easily spendable in brick and motor stores (IE QR code scanning to pay for your shirt/beer/groceries etc)
4) There is collapse of a major currency
5) There is massive inflation or "quantitative easing" of a fiat currency

IMO stating that bitcoins will never hit $5000.....is.....well, delusional :D

This is more a decent respons that i agree with.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on February 27, 2014, 01:42:12 PM
Quote
3) Becomes easily spendable in brick and motor stores

There's an Indy 500 joke in there somewhere, but it'd be a lot of work.



Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on February 27, 2014, 01:49:20 PM
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Troll more?

I checked this out on Wikipedia, and it said the Duke of Trollmore was a 12th century hunchback known for eating sheep during the full moon.

Then I tried to find the Troll Moors on Google Earth, but it kept redirecting me to Google Middle Earth.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: sickpig on February 27, 2014, 04:19:49 PM
"$5500 this year is completely delusional. I hope really someone ends up posting my response to prove me wrong, but thinking that will happen is, again, delusional."

-chesthing
Wouldn't it make more sense to repeat my post after it has hit $5500?

yep, but maybe proudhon wan't to avoid the possibility of you deleting your own post. just a guess.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: Bronstad on February 27, 2014, 04:22:39 PM
wan't to avoid the possibility of you deleting your own post. just a guess.

"wa not"
 - sickpig


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: sickpig on February 27, 2014, 04:31:03 PM
wan't to avoid the possibility of you deleting your own post. just a guess.

"wa not"
 - Bronstad

:P

edit1: sure he would have sign the quote with one of his private key :)


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: chesthing on February 27, 2014, 05:06:41 PM
$5500 this year is completely delusional. I really hope someone ends up posting my response to prove me wrong, but thinking that will happen is, again, delusional.


To be fair people were saying 1200 was delusional.

people probably thought $1 was delusional back when price was $0.01
The difference between .01 and $1 is less than a dollar. The difference between $600 and $5500 is $4,900. I hardly think these compare. I hope to hell I am wrong, because I will be holding btc. I'm just hoping it hits a grand again this year.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: Le Happy Merchant on February 27, 2014, 05:29:42 PM
“Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful”

― Warren Buffett

"Cheesburger in paradise."

-- Jimmy Buffett

'All you can eat"

-Buffet


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: skaffen on February 28, 2014, 08:04:03 AM
To maintain that price, 25 * 6 * 24 * 5500 = $19,800,000 a day of new mined coins will need to be bought.  Doesn't sound like a huge amount really.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: Elwar on February 28, 2014, 09:10:59 AM
The exchanges are a small percentage of the Bitcoin economy. It is only there that the price is determined. Not the mined coins.

If you and I are the only people exchanging oranges for apples and all other apples and oranges are stored, if you give me 100 oranges for 1 apple...then that will be the price for all others.

People are quick to complain about the hoarding of coins, then bring up the "cost per day" required to pay for mined coins. The only thing to change the price is the amount of dollars and bitcoins going into the exchanges.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: seleme on February 28, 2014, 09:14:11 AM
When we start playing at that level, you can bet we'll play among some big players and at big stage. It would be about at time when big players would own big Bitcoin businesses and would have no problems to support the price to gain maximum dollars from their Bitcoin businesses.


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: podyx on February 28, 2014, 12:39:01 PM
$5500 this year is completely delusional. I really hope someone ends up posting my response to prove me wrong, but thinking that will happen is, again, delusional.


To be fair people were saying 1200 was delusional.

people probably thought $1 was delusional back when price was $0.01
The difference between .01 and $1 is less than a dollar. The difference between $600 and $5500 is $4,900. I hardly think these compare. I hope to hell I am wrong, because I will be holding btc. I'm just hoping it hits a grand again this year.

$0.01 and $1 is the same thing as $1k and $100k

they are just numbers


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: Ekaros on February 28, 2014, 12:48:30 PM
$5500 this year is completely delusional. I really hope someone ends up posting my response to prove me wrong, but thinking that will happen is, again, delusional.


To be fair people were saying 1200 was delusional.

people probably thought $1 was delusional back when price was $0.01
The difference between .01 and $1 is less than a dollar. The difference between $600 and $5500 is $4,900. I hardly think these compare. I hope to hell I am wrong, because I will be holding btc. I'm just hoping it hits a grand again this year.

Just think of equal amount of fiat... 0.01 to 1 is at 21M $ at max... Where as 4900$ change is 55,8 billion dollars for 12,4 million coins...

That is slight difference...


Title: Re: New ATH, $5,500...coming soon
Post by: Elwar on March 03, 2014, 11:07:48 AM
What do you think the catalyst will be for this jump? Ukraine? UK adoption? End of MtGox? A new technology using the blockchain (hint: see my sig)?