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Can we get whoever the mod is who did this banned?

See the reference:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg44066622#msg44066622

There was a 2nd such post by someone else deleted about the same time.

This is my self moderated forum thread (also happens to be the biggest thread on the forum)

The pool section of the forum is moderated by another pool owner and a person who mines on that pool.
Bias?
Well yeah been a lot of that there lately, but a mod deleting on topic posts, from my self moderated thread, should clearly NOT be happening.

I don't think creating a self-moderated thread makes it OK for anyone to spam in it, regardless of whether the OP doesn't want it deleted.  If that were the case, spammers would just keep creating self-moderated threads so that mods would stay out of their business.

Anything you can think of that could be abused, will be.  Remember that.

How is that even relevant?  I'm going by the post you quoted, and I can see why it was deleted.  Plus my argument about abuse is still valid.  Do you really want me to read 4 years' worth of posts just to have an opinion about a shitpost?

Ah.  I'm not a miner and didn't realize that was the significance.  In any case, it's just one post that was deleted.  If it's that important to the community, just make the post again, maybe make it a little more substantial.  We all get posts deleted every now and then, and it's not a huge deal.

The thread has been around for 4 years - please take note of the reference rather than spam posting here :)

You should explain more on the Bias part, otherwise nothing much is going to happen.

Also, chill down. If the mod deleted it, it would have been for a reason, or hell, someone would have reported it. On topic replies can be sometimes deleted, if they break some other rules of the forum.

- That is not the most polite/professional way to go about when your thread is 4 years old and mods have supported it since then. Rather, ask what's wrong with the reply posted and how they consider it as off-topic. Also, mods don't lurk around the threads to delete posts, someone would have reported that reply with proper description.

And who doesn't know about KanoPool ;)

Plenty of the pools make these posts regularly, including the mod's pool, and mine also for the last ... 4 years.
So suddenly deleting them from my thread should not be happening, unless there is some bias (or alcohol) involved.

You  did notice that the post was about a block, found by the pool, being confirmed and celebrated.

So on topic, not spam, and not breaking the posting rules.

If it was mistake, then it would be appropriate to own up to it, which would also put the issue to rest, yes?

*** Wow... That's a new low that my post was so offensive to some snowflake 'mod' that they had to shadow-ban a simple block notification/celebration due to their clear bias against a highly successful pool that they will stop at nothing to sabotage its web presence due to their blind rage and acute case of Kanopool Derangement Syndrome (KDS)! ***

*** Read this while it lasts. I'm sure it'll be gone before you know it! ***

No offense, but only a snowflake would go ballistic about one post being deleted.  You guys are really making a big deal out of nothing.

I told you, I've had posts deleted before.  I can't say I'm crazy about it, but stuff happens.  I'm actually grateful that mods are deleting what they think are insubstantial posts, even though I try not to pump out such things.  Sometimes mods get it wrong.  You guys are seriously overreacting IMO.

OK, well maybe the mod who deleted them will stop by to explain why he did it.

Apparently more than a post were deleted, in fact, multiple post from multiple people were deleted.

I know it was on topic and it doesn't really break the posting rules, but you don't really know if you broke it or not. Like I said, just because topics are on-topic, doesn't mean they can't be deleted.

Let's see how you like it...

[/quote]I know it was on topic and it doesn't really break the posting rules, but you don't really know if you broke it or not. Like I said, just because topics are on-topic, doesn't mean they can't be deleted.
[/quote]

It wasn’t my post.

Of COURSE posts can be deleted.  Socks can also be green.

The crux of the issue appears to be why they were deleted; a question which seems to be getting deflected instead of appropriately addressed.

Exactly, just chill down and ask the mods politely is what is being told by me/The Pharmacist. You don't have to go full trigger mode on for this.

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

https://i.imgur.com/jQmCDPS.png

It is not as if that ever happens in that thread.  ::)

Are probably the main two reasons why it got deleted.

It is likely that someone reported it and that the moderator saw a short uninteresting post that looked like spam and may not have investigated the context.

Considering that moderators deal with thousands of spam posts hourly - deleting one that may not have been spam is a minor error.

does not look much different to when it is a hazy blur of reported spam.


As they say: "toughen up princess !".

Thank you for a meaningful reply. Is there a rule that will get me banned if I go report every post on a pool I may or may not be biased against? ;)

Banning is at the moderators discretion. Untrustworthy behavior is also likely to attract some pretty red tags.

23. When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules.

It is more likely that they just start ignoring your reports if they are inaccurate.

You could however be useful and report some real spam and breaking of the rules. That would be constructive.

I realise that communities can be quite protective of their product. But as an outsider that has never heard of your pool - the attitude towards the moderator is quite a put off. Not particularly good advertising for your pool. For what appears to me a likely situation of a moderator not seeing the complete context of the post. You can avoid such misunderstandings by making posts that are easier to identify as "not spam".

So for the sycophants of the mod who did this, here's some data that anyone can easily see in the pools thread, by clicking on my link and looking at other threads in the same place:

1)
The two posts deleted



2)
Posts in one of the mod's threads over the last 6 days in reverse time order (not deleted :P)







...


as I said (and anyone can see by clicking there) someone needs to be given the kick from moderating.

Query: In a self-moderated thread, when a post is Reported to Moderator, isn't the person who created the thread the one that gets the report and deals with it?

Aside from something pretty egregious why would the regular mods have any input? Do they also get a copy of the reported post?

If I were you I  wouldn't be to keen to draw attention to yourself or the thread.

I didn't realize that mining pools were so competitive that it is a hatfield mccoy style rivalry.

Get the gunz out - it is another mining pool !

There are plenty of posts in your thread that breach the "low quality" rule and the "no consecutive posts rule". I wouldn't be so petty to report them because generally I leave threads where there is genuine discussion alone and just report the bots and obvious shills. But I can see why someone may have reported them. It is likely to be unconnected to your perceived rivalries.





All could be considered "low quality posts". The reason I wouldn't report them is because it appears to be expressions of sincere delight. But they could still be considered as breaking the rules.

What generally happens though when people draw unnecessary attention to themselves is that they get more scrutinized - not less.

No. The function is called "Report to moderator" for a reason.

They do see the quoted post at the time it was reported.

Well considering I FIRST PM'd this issue directly to theymos ... and he replied that I should post here about it ... I think you should just stop posting here coz you clearly have no idea what's going on.

Maybe you should report his post to the mods and censor him.  What delicious irony that would be.

No.  You're complaining that you don't want him to post here, but he's making good points in a thread about how those unnecessary, non-constructive posts got deleted.  Those are the types of posts that get deleted in any other thread.  Seems to me your perception of a good post and of what a problem this forum is having with spam is a wee bit skewed.  Seems to me you'd prefer one-line garbage instead of well-thought out posts and that you're making a huge deal out of absolutely nothing--you're calling for a moderator to be thrown out of his job because he deleted some shitposts in that thread.  

The mod is doing his job.  Get a grip on reality.

Edit:  And looking at your trust page, it looks like you've pissed a couple people off by deleting posts.  So there's that.

And the person who created the self-moderated thread is by definition -- the moderator. I can see the 'real mods' getting copies but again, aside from vile egregious and offensive post that the creator of said thread does nothing about then ja. they damn well should step in. Baring that -- hands off.

Well that's your words and your suggestion - so I take it that's the sort of thing you'd do?

No, moderators deal with it. I read somewhere that there is an exception to this, where the OP of the wall observer thread, receives reports, only for the posts made on that thread.

Yeah as if Theymos would be personally interested in two deleted shitposts.

It is correct - Meta is for posting these type of issues.

From my experience you are wasting your time and drawing attention to your thread. As I pointed out - may not be the wisest thing to do.

I can give advise but whether you follow that advise is up to you.

It reminds me of a client that was convinced his neighbors were dancing on his roof at night. They would scurry up the downpipe and make a hell of a racket.
I told him that if there were noises it would be vermin or animals. That "people" were not dancing on his roof.
He went to the pub and told his friends - they said that his neighbors must really have it in for him to be dancing on his roof.
This convinced him that his neighbors were dancing on his roof even more and that I was part of that conspiracy.

Theymos didn't want to deal with it so send you here. I gave you valid advice. The only thing I can offer after that is an eye-roll.  ::)

Yes I do ignore advise from sycophants

Edit: you seem to think I should avoid drawing attention to my thread - the largest on the whole forum - that seems a rather impossible thing to do :)

The mods run and post in the threads that do exactly the same thing.

Rather than post "I know what I am talking about I don't need to see what's going on" ... go have a look and find you don't know what you are talking about.

Though you don't need to look, I've already posted that here also ... but you clearly didn't bother to read it.

Oh well ...

Then a self moderated thread suits you perfectly because you can delete any comments that you disagree with and surround yourself with fawning, flattery and adulation. Unfortunately for you it doesn't work like that in Meta.

EDIT:
,,,and just broke another rule...

https://i.imgur.com/rpWpKik.png

It wasn't deleted by -ck.

Nobody is out to get you. The posts looked in isolation like no-content "good project"-type garbage. Many moderators scan all posts as they come in, not looking closely at which threads they belong to. I agree that those posts were sufficiently on-topic when taken in context, especially when posted by non-newbies, and should not have been deleted. Their authors reposted them immediately, so get over it.

Oh thanks ;)

As long as it wasn't frodocooper who deleted the posts - since he is part of -ck's pool also and posts there also.
That's 2 of the 3 people listed as moderators.

Though no idea why gmaxwell would be bothering to delete posts in the pool thread :P

It also wasn't fodocooper. I'm very confident that it was just a mistake from a moderator who deletes mountains of trash every day. (I'd also think that it was just a mistake if it had been deleted by frodocooper or -ck, but since it wasn't, you can put your mind doubly at ease...)

Could be any of the Global moderators.

OK thanks - yeah I guess I don't understand the mod access to the forums then.
Since each sub forum lists the mods that manage it - I guess you mean that any mod can still go deleting stuff anywhere.

Oh well next time I'll just tell the parties who had their posts deleted to simply repost them
... and then go on a rampage if the mod deletes them again :D