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Title: Recovering weird old wallet
Post by: Tonkers on August 15, 2018, 05:04:14 AM
Hi everyone, I'm posting here because I just found a slip of paper with 18 four-letter non-words (stuff like "ejeg" and "nanw") and a password that I wrote down back in, must've been around 2012-2013. I don't currently have access to the hard-drive with the wallet file on it, but I think it was a Bitcoin Core wallet. Does this seed format sound familiar to anyone? Is there any way I can get my wallet back from this information? The hard drive is still accessible, but it's at my parent's house in another state.


Title: Re: Recovering weird old wallet
Post by: cissrawk on August 15, 2018, 05:46:59 AM
but I think it was a Bitcoin Core wallet.
I think that 18 words is seeds and afaik, bitcoin core doesn't support seeds, it can be something else.

I'm not familiar with 18 four-letter non-words, but you can try import it to mycelium wallet, since they have option to import 18 seeds. Tho, idk if that will work or not.


Title: Re: Recovering weird old wallet
Post by: bob123 on August 15, 2018, 07:06:04 AM
18 four-letter non-words (stuff like "ejeg" and "nanw") and a password that I wrote down back in, must've been around 2012-2013.

BIP32 (mnemonic code) (https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawiki) got proposed 2013-09-10. Unfortunately i am not familiar with such kind of a seed. Especially not from 2012/2013.
It might be a modification of BIP32 with a custom word list ? But i guess you would remember if you would have used something uncommon to backup your coins?



I don't currently have access to the hard-drive with the wallet file on it, but I think it was a Bitcoin Core wallet.

Core did not (and still doesn't) use a mnemonic code to backup the private keys.
If you have got these words from your wallet as a backup, then you didn't use core.



Is there any way I can get my wallet back from this information?

Only if you know what kind of a seed it is and how to derive the necessary information.



The hard drive is still accessible, but it's at my parent's house in another state.

If you have really used core, all you need to do is to copy the wallet.dat file and move it to a fresh install on another computer.

I would suggest to first make an exact(!) copy of this drive. Then only work on the image of the drive.
Depending on the amount of bitcoins stored in this wallet, you don't want to risk anything which could lead to a loss of your funds.

Accessing the drive could clear up any doubts regarding the wallet you have used.
This seems to be the best way without knowing which wallet used this type of a seed.


Title: Re: Recovering weird old wallet
Post by: BitMaxz on August 15, 2018, 05:28:58 PM
I tried to search on google, but failed and I tried to translate it using google translator no result.

I tried to research deeply and I found some snippets result on google that it looks like deep latin words. However, when trying to translate using Latin to English no result.

I found a list from Arabic website and I think all the non-words you get from the paper you will find it from the url below.
Code:
http://ice-ex1r2.persiangig.com/.fIiStHZdGZ/document/id%204%20harfi%20jadid.txt

probably you converted the seed phrases to a deep latin? You must find that tool to translate it into English words.


Title: Re: Recovering weird old wallet
Post by: SimpleVv0 on August 15, 2018, 07:09:47 PM
Hi, it's Armory paper backup, you shoud download Armory and you will able to recover entire wallet.


Title: Re: Recovering weird old wallet
Post by: TheArchaeologist on August 16, 2018, 02:00:47 PM
Hi everyone, I'm posting here because I just found a slip of paper with 18 four-letter non-words (stuff like "ejeg" and "nanw") and a password that I wrote down back in, must've been around 2012-2013. I don't currently have access to the hard-drive with the wallet file on it, but I think it was a Bitcoin Core wallet. Does this seed format sound familiar to anyone? Is there any way I can get my wallet back from this information? The hard drive is still accessible, but it's at my parent's house in another state.

Step 1: Download the Armory wallet here:
https://www.bitcoinarmory.com/

Step 2: Once installed choose "Import or Restore Wallet" from the Wallet Software (it's in the right hand corner). You should then  choose the option for "Single-Sheet Backup (printed)" on the Armory Wallet and the option "Version 1.35c - 2 Lines" since I assume you have 2 lines of 9 random looking words consisting of 4 letters.

This video might also help:
https://www.bitcoinarmory.com/tutorials/armory-basics/restore-wallet/

Hope you find something nice :)


Title: Re: Recovering weird old wallet
Post by: HCP on August 17, 2018, 08:10:19 AM
Step 0: Install and fully sync Bitcoin Core

Step 1: Download the Armory wallet here:
https://www.bitcoinarmory.com/ <--- DO NOT USE
https://www.btcarmory.com <--- This is the current Armory website... use this one one!

Step 2: Once installed choose "Import or Restore Wallet" from the Wallet Software (it's in the right hand corner). You should then  choose the option for "Single-Sheet Backup (printed)" on the Armory Wallet and the option "Version 1.35c - 2 Lines" since I assume you have 2 lines of 9 random looking words consisting of 4 letters.

This video might also help:
https://www.bitcoinarmory.com/tutorials/armory-basics/restore-wallet/

Hope you find something nice :)
There... fixed that for you ;)

btcarmory.com (https://www.btcarmory.com/) is the new "official" Armory website... the other website has a horribly outdated version of Armory that will not play nicely with any version of Bitcoin Core from v0.15+


Title: Re: Recovering weird old wallet
Post by: TheArchaeologist on August 17, 2018, 08:27:49 AM
Step 0: Install and fully sync Bitcoin Core

Step 1: Download the Armory wallet here:
https://www.bitcoinarmory.com/ <--- DO NOT USE
https://www.btcarmory.com <--- This is the current Armory website... use this one one!

Step 2: Once installed choose "Import or Restore Wallet" from the Wallet Software (it's in the right hand corner). You should then  choose the option for "Single-Sheet Backup (printed)" on the Armory Wallet and the option "Version 1.35c - 2 Lines" since I assume you have 2 lines of 9 random looking words consisting of 4 letters.

This video might also help:
https://www.bitcoinarmory.com/tutorials/armory-basics/restore-wallet/

Hope you find something nice :)
There... fixed that for you ;)

btcarmory.com (https://www.btcarmory.com/) is the new "official" Armory website... the other website has a horribly outdated version of Armory that will not play nicely with any version of Bitcoin Core from v0.15+

Thanks, learned something again :)

Hope OP will report if he succeeded or not.


Title: Re: Recovering weird old wallet
Post by: nc50lc on August 26, 2018, 07:14:12 AM
You might want to try that on coinomi wallet,if its bitcoin core you will get it back and if its bitcoin itself you will get it back ,coinomi supports 12 seeds,18seeds too and it has both bitcoin and bitcoin core even other several coins
As far as I know, Coinomi was established in Mid year 2014 while OP stated that the SEED backup was written between 2012 and 2013.
Just one year (could be valid), but the OP hasn't been responded after the best replies since August 15;
so, the issue should have been resolved already... hopefully.

May I ask you, what is the difference between bitcoin core and bitcoin (itself)? :)