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Have you guys noticed that every day around 5:00 pm EST that the market dumps, it has to be Wall Street taking daily profits before they go home for the night. It’s only on weekdays and has happened the last 3-4 weekdays in a row and on Friday’s it’s s bigger dump before they go home for the weekend.

Market dumping is very common in the market as we know there are some visible factors affecting the market and some giants are causing a dump in the market as well. We just can discuss but cannot do something bigger than it to stop dumping. So, we just have to hold and wait.

Yes, I noticed it too.

I think, we need to know the previous situation under normal circumstances of our market. Because when we look at the past, we can see that cryptocurrency has come from this huge range of small ranges. The market situation is bad now but in future it will be better.

Naturally the market situation is wobbly so the prices will increase at any time as it is a natural picture of cryptomarket. So, the future prices will increase and we all will be benefited from our investment.

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The market , the news development have dumped
But it is a wake up call, a trigger , a realization for every bitcoin or crypto currency participants

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in the past few months the market has experienced a very sad price decline, but it is suitable for investing for the long term it's time to buy some altcoins and wait for prices to return to the pump

I didn't noticed this but if you do, you can take this as your strategy and do some experiment while executing this discovery you made.

I had observed that the  current market movement of cryptocurrency will no longer hold long. Also, I had noticed that bear market is more recurring than the bull market where btc usually stay below the $7k mark and alts are diving deep. I think it cohld best just to hold further until cryptos will further grow.

Only a little pump and then another a little dump was coming. I guess everyone needs to understand about the situation of the crypto market and it seems like that the crypto gets more stability. This looks trus consider the bitcoin has been doing nothing for a week. A flash pump means nothing for us.

You have to wait to get something good. Because we know that, everyone should wait for getting benefit from any investment. And it is good to continue investing with the belief that market conditions will be good in the future.

I think it’s not a reason for market dump. There are several reasons for market dump. Try to collect the relevant news. Fraud are try to spread out false news. So please do analyzes properly.

maybe if OP keep tracking this behavior then yes he can build a good strategy to take some advantage, following the trend and analyzing the behavior inside exchange will bring something decent, even a little pumped or a little dumped where you can buy and hold for a while, as we see that market recovers and again it will continue acting  the same, not unless the big strong pumped happen or the other way around, just need to have a clear plan
while making any decision.

it is more probable and potential i think EST market do something good in future. it is provide better service for investor. i think its future are very good. i also want invest here.

many factors cause prices dumb.
this is our chance to buy more and more good aldcoin, and hold it until last year minimum or next year.

it is more potential and probable and ETS market will grow up immediately. i think it will do something good in future. i have little idea about this but i also want to know more about this because i'm interested to invest here.

it will do something good and EST market are grow up day by day. it is more potential and probable. they are capable to do something good in future. i think its future are more bright.

very sad when many people complain about this condition and do not remember that the market will not be as perfect as what others think to get big profits, I do not pay attention to the extent of the current movement, of course I realize that this is a condition that is not good and not healthy while they use hype to manipulate prices, I think we can wait until the end of the year and for 2019 because it is the talk of many people that the market will rise, I faithfully wait by buying more than now.

I understand that you didn't able to achieve success in this field but that doesn't mean that you will consider the whole market as a dump place, you must have known that this place is hard for those who have less patience so maybe this is not for you but that's doesn't mean no will able to deal here

I don't understand why people spread this kinds of comment,  this kinds of statement fall negative impact on the investors decision , but I think the users will understand that they are just disappointed with the market cause they didn't able to survive here

who ever pass this kinds of comments I think they didn't analyzed the market before saying things like this ,I will request the investors to not to get their decision influence by this kinds of ill comment, and those people  will get their answers with time

I guess it's done for decreasing the level of "crypto world". Partially, they do it well cos as we know from news Nvidia left crypto due to "low profit"

so do you think that all this is done and desired by wall street? if true, then it is very good to be ready to buy at 5:00 pm EST and we can buy at the time of dump, so we will get the cheapest price.

In my understanding, the original poster commented only on a pattern he/she observed with minor price margin fluctuation. It is not related to overall decline of the market.  I noticed this pattern as well. Simple example: The price of ETH was holding between 273-270$ all day but RIGHT after 5pm EST it dropped to 262$ for about 10-15 min, then around 520pm everything went to "normal" - 272$. But Honestly i do not understand  why. it is happening.
BTC , LiteCoin do not follow this pattern. I noticed it only with ETH, ECT, which actually make sense why these 2 pairs act differently in regards of pricing pump/dump

The market is a Pump and dump now because we are in a stable phase we are in the middle, the bear market is over and we are is the stable phase maybe this will take months and after this, we will go to a bull market so prepare yourselves this will be exciting!

That’s a good observation. I hope this is just a probable though but not true and it doesn’t continue for long time. I hope the market will recover soon

If this is from the institutional level investors then i think it is not a great sign, also it indicates the low volume in the market at the moment where a single big investor can move the market, future growth of crypto will depend on constantly growing volume.

It was expecting one among the traders.Many people in this forum will hold huge bitcoin and looking for the chance to sell.When the price of bitcoin reached 6790$,many people had sell their holding bitcoin.This term into the negative cause in the bitcoin price again.Then the price of bitcoin is reduced to 6400$ . Holding your bitcoin till the end of this year will be the good option.

The market will always be prone to dumps, especially in markets as volatile as this, happens in the stock market, and happens here too, the important thing is not to panic and continue with the hodl until we are satisfied with the price we get, that is the only way to play in the market and try not to fall into manipulations, I know that the FUD can be strong and tempting but we have to endure

Market is dumping, we used to see like that, if there is pump there is dump as always. we cannot predict what will happen to the market..

I also notice it, market is full of manipulation by crypto whales they are playing with emotions of people who get afraid with little dump, i have learn not to panic sell whatsoever it may be.

Success opportunities will always be open, depending on how to respond to opportunities. To make a profit in the crypto world, of course it's not as easy as turning your hands, everything needs a process, and I agree that patience and hard work in dealing with the current market situation is very necessary to achieve success.

Maybe it happens only on a slight chance if you turn your focus here you might be deprived from the next pump up to happen on weekdays. because all is dumping on Fridays. but what if it suddenly goes up again what to do? anyway investigating with a proper proof will make you safe from buying coins on the necessary time because you will gonna buy it from the right time and sell it on a high price.

If someone is interested on this discovery he made then everyone can make a good strategy out of this incident that happens during weekdays. Day traders and holders as well can have an experiment with it.

The market dump in the present time is typical because the market is facing too much negative news happening at the same time. So your point is not entirely reasonable because the cryptocurrency market cannot easily be manipulated as such, the recent decline in exchange rates is due to the impact of the SEC does not accept Bitcoin ETF.

That's the wall street taking the profits home, there is a movie named wolf of the wall street, they talk about this in that movie.

They say that while people get sucked to investing on the market, they the wall street guys are the ones going home with hard

Cash.
Normal? crypto currency market cannot be easily manipulated? they are manipulating the market right now.

The way I understand it, market dumps happened on a weekends. Others says its because people are just cashing some money to enjoy the holidays. So I'm not surprised by this dump happening prior to weekends specially US timezone. However, this market never sleeps, so Asia Time Zone takes over, but in this dip so the market is back where it used to be.

But we don't have evidence though, its pure speculation but if you have been in the market for at least a year, you will notice this pattern in whatever sentiments the market is.

Yeah, another ETF just got rejected, I guess we will not see real pump of BTC price until 30th September, when the most important CBOA ETF should be decided.

well, they have to take care about their profit bafore having a rest, so not to feel anxious while hanginh out with their families :D

I think because half the world is about to sleep while the other half awakes so before the other half sleeps like before they prepare to go to bed they dump while half the world are just trying to roll up their sleeves to trade. It does happen regularly that they are starting their session just as how Tokyo session in forex market start, London and New York session starts.

Peoples usually sell their digital assets when some ETF got rejected or some government bans cryptocurrency. But it will recover soon, probably in three four months or sooner.

It's normal in crypto that market fluctuate a lot, for all crypto. I'm not worried with that, and i'm sure market will pump again this year, maybe next, the question is which currency will pump more ? That's the question to get more profit ;D, (or less loose if you buy cryptocurrency expensive)

Yeah i have also noticed it from last few days. Though this wall street point didn't come into my mind. But probably you are right. I think we need to know about this matter.

I have not noticed it properly. But i think you are not completely wrong. Maybe it is a big factor behind the market dump. I am going to follow this from now on. Let's see what will happen next week.

I had also noticed some patterns and earned money on them. But they stop working over time, so be careful.

Sounds interesting but we have to backed up our claim with some evidence to show that they are really the ones dumping in the market. Well, i have to observe this week to confirmed your claim.

The market is in the market and it is too big to lose all the altcoin and token but it is not possible to hold our altcoin or token so we can not lose the other people who are holding their coin because the price is too low that maybe We are trading in longterm buy with potential altcoin and just hold it until you profit and then sell.

I appreciated more for this information everyone are noticed on what is going on for the present situation. May be this updated will gives more time to hold our tokens and gives some strategy on how we manipulate work it.

Market dumping or bleeding has been a common occurence in cryptocurrency market, especially now we were in bear market. All investors and traders in any market, once in their life were afraid of losing money for the fear that the market will not recover. But through experience they overcome the fear of losinh money.

There can be some truth to what you are trying to imply. It doesn't have to be the wall street people but also other stock exchange sharks and whales who have the similar office hours and might be utilizing the rest of the day behind manipulating the market. Hopefully, it will change soon, otherwise it can prove to be a disaster in the future.

These are certainly not necessarily whales from wall Street, but still they are really big players who speculate on prices or just trade on the cryptocurrency market.

I've never notice it, though. But thank you for giving us hint and we could try to see it.
Dumps is always a part of crypto life,  we never take it seriously as it happens repetitively. Though people think that the current decline we have is not unusual but we have nothing to do is to accept it.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I will try to keep an eye on the market next week) By the way, now you can use such cases and create your own trading strategy if you are a day-trader.

This is only common but this time it became worst due to regulations. But that isn't the time to left cryptocurrencies thus make a good time buying cheap altcoins and wait for the market to bloom again. Nothing bad about this. The market is just giving us a chance to be rich then why be sad about it, right?

It didn't happen for a regular basis. Yes, it is true that the scenario is quite the same for past 3-4 weeks but if they were suppose to control the market by dumping their coins after their office hours then they could have do it from a long ago. But, the situation is arising recently and there hasn't been a solid explanation for this yet.

To be honest, I look at the falling market myself and I want to run, but I understand that the main thing here is to wait!

Yes I have noticed that and showed it to a friend of mine who had the same opinion as yours. According to him, it's all the sharks who are dumping their coins once they are done with their professional work. This can be alarming if it becomes a ritual soon but don't think it can affect the market on a large scale yet.

I proposes a deep breath and a break from cryptocurrencies. Now it's a good time to buy ETH and other altcoins. We are waiting calmly for another price increase ...

Yes, the market situation is alarming for everyone . I hope everything goes back to normal.

There might be a pattern involved but without any surety it will be tough to comment on it. At the same time, this market is not based on hunch, there are serious probabilities and statics involved, so we need to crack it in order to get the pattern.

Yes, the market keeps dipping but I believe the best thing to do in cases like this is to hold our coin patiently until the market recover fully from the bear and the bull run starts. I believe if we support the market and reduce the rate at which we panic sell, the price will rice.

This might be just a coincidence. The cryptocurrency market is always unstable. There can be pumps and dumps at any moment. The actual reason behind this rise and fall of price can never be known. Many investors believe that this occurs due to some kind of market manipulation by big whales.

I will try to pay attention to this. The crypto market is full of mysteries. For example the mysterious appearance of USDT.

The market dumps are everywhere if one is to search for them. The matter at hand, however is rather clear and that's in market depressions like these the best course of action is diligent holding.

All right. The current market is manipulated by the movers from the stock market, who came here in December 2017.

I don't think that the crypto markets have any connection with the stock markets, and so far there is very little Wall street investment in crypto, the market is too small for them to generate profits on a scale to satisfy their investors. Movements are needed to stimulate trading so it is rare you will see crypto flat for too long.

The market runs on some statistics and analysis, because there is a repeat of patterns. We need to be experts, to crack the pattern, and for that we need to increase the level of investments for it.

I just noticed that most of the Friday crypto market price also red, maybe it's call "Black Friday", current marketcap just stable between $210B, don't have big dump or pump within two week, so maybe market price also dip to bottom and just wait for pump?

Dont worry to the market dumping because its normal, just keep waiting and have patient because you can encounter a long period of time dumping in the market that what happen right now. And sometime it takes a months before it rise again, just keep believe that market will going to rise because sometimes positive thoughts have effect in the market.

I noticed a decrease in the rate of cryptocurrencies to the weekend.When many traders close their trades and do other things.With the new week the market comes to life.

It's a strategy. Sharks can not die, only us. My advice is getting a real job. It will maintain your life. Investment is the second way to get money. You should use your time carefully.

In this market price fluctuation can happen at any time. So anything can happen at any time. I believe situation will change and become a stable market.

I don't think the market is dumping because wall streets take their daily profit after much trades. Once you check the overall progress of the market, you will discover that it is dumping at a concurrent rate. This is primarily due to the unfavourable news governing the market currently. I don't want to believe it is due to some particular activities of few guys somewhere else.

now if you look at the market it is good to make daily profits because there are many price deteriorations in many altcoins today.

there is no sign of recovery in the market, the market has decreased every day, I feel confused hahah. I am always patient to wait for market prices to rise again

You have a good monitoring skills right there. If your calculations is correct, I think you should also take advantage of what is happening. Buy after 5:00 pm EST then sell when the price rise up. If you really think that the price of coins is being manipulated by Wall Street why don't you ride with them. You will also gain a lot from it if your calculations is right.

I don't care about the market who dumps. These can only affect the short-term price, but I am really concerned about the future trend of the cryptocurrency. Those who really like the cryptocurrency will not easily dump the tokens in their hands.

These movements are very small, it can bring you profit only if you are professional in scalping (day trading). I do not pay much attention to such things.

The cripto market has recently been very volatile. So really, there is such a tendency, but I can not be sure it's through Wall Street. I think this may be a coincidence.

Well, such a positive spirit, dude. As I think it’s one of the most methods that every of us should remember to follow while the market is going down. The core feature of cryptocurrencies or bitcoin is highly volatile, thus if we can’t change the truth, don’t try to pay much attention on the current movement. We’d better to keep our head and try to find a suitable method in order that you can gain more. Positive thinking pluses to positive act instead of focusing on current situation with negative thinking, , we can completely obtain our goal in any trouble.

The market dumped started on january and that mean nearly in 9 month the price keep down, and by looking for history price action of Bitcoin this is still normal, and the price will be going up again later, can be in the beginning of this year or next year. Current total market cap of crypto is very small so has big probability to increase.

This dump is a very common problem in this market, maybe because they have something to do with the money they will get after they sell their coins. However, if you dont really need the money then you can just hold it and wait for sometime so that the price will rise higher and we can have higher profit.

almost every time I always observe and pay attention to the market situation, and tend to decline. when will this end soon and recover. I hope this situation is not too long. be patient to wait for time to arrive by bringing together dreams.

It is true that the crypto market is now experiencing a very drastic decline. But I think this is the right time to buy and hold it for a while. Because I believe the market will recover again and we will benefit from what we invest.

We are talking too much and it is about time we gave the market its time to recover on its own. There is nothing some of us can do. we just have to leave everything to the whales to determine whatever they want the market to go. We will never lose all our hopes despite the little frustrations we are going through.

every day I see the development of the market but all I see is a red label everywhere. when will the market recover !!! I still believe the market will soon be green again.

This is just a common matter with the market...
The pump and dump is just a simple.thing yo have.
We just need to be wise in choosing the right coin to hold.
We need to have more knowledge to stay alive in this community

Dumping and again pumping is now common factor in crypto trading i don;t care about it.

Yeah, we cannot do anything about this market unless you're a whale. Stop that drama now, stop panicking because this market will rise on its own time. I personally experience so many dumps in the market, and yet we are still on top compare to last year dump. This mean that this market is really here to stay and just like a normal stock market, it will pump and dump.

Many factors can cause that price dump.

it is true that you say, currently the altcoin and btc markets are down again, but everyone wants the market to rise again in the future, so that we benefit

Yes anything will happens every hour of the day.In this situation we cannot say that the value price was stable.What we are doing is accept what's happening in cryptocurrency world.

perhaps they can do it, but I'm not trading, and I hope that the market will be restored,

The market is just doing its own thing at the moment, not sure I see specific events at the same time of day each day from my seat. We have been labouring under a correction that has dragged on for some 9 months now, and hopefully it will resolve itself by the end of 2018. These dips have been a good opportunity to invest in some additional coins.

Indeed conditions continuously happen. and I also don't know, until when these conditions will continue to take place. but hopefully soon conditions improved. in order for us traders also soon discover the bright point.

It was always dump but not too much and recover again, For now the prices of the coins in the market was dropping to much. Ill think it was too long to recover the some prices of the coins. Maybe it will start in this month of december or in the end of this year.

The crypto market have dumped 80% from January. Now the price is good to invest some. If it dump again will not dump too much.

Market dumping is not all together not a stranger event and uncommon phenomenon. It happens in most business jurisdictions and when ever it happens stocks usually get a bitting for that.

yeah, indeed in the future it will take a lot of time to recover.
but i am sure the price will actually exceed last year.

until now i have held my coin with only expectations and predictions that many experts do. i will still wait until the day grows all the coins well.

I don't really watching observing the market so much when the condition is dropping like in the pas few month.
I usually watching when the market is stable and mostly increasing.

No more dump today  ;D ;D The market will increase til the end of this year, then to the moon in 2019, in my opinion  ;D

I am notice about the time but maybe its just coincedence. Market dump recently because most people in crypto panic and they are selling their coin at cheap price. Hopely market growing more mature and people not panic on fake news

I think the market is a pump and throw now because we are in a stable phase we are in the middle, the bear market is over and we are a stable phase maybe this will take months and after this. So maybe the market price also drops down and only waiting for the pump.

Yes, you are right that market prices are currently dumping for a very long time, but you should be able to take advantage of this moment as best as you can by buying coins when cheap prices like this are a good step.

The demand will outpace supply and price will rise so its temporary inflationary nature until the cap is reached is irrelevant.

As far as I concern the situation of the market is too bad everyone are desperately looking for a good return but it doesn't look as expected, let's wait and watch how the condition changes as this is the last quarter of this year I believe it will start pumping.

I think these observations can help you trade, if such a pattern repeats itself repeatedly. This is a good observation.

Oh okay so nothing to do with inflation, just speculating on price going up.

I don’t like the government to be able to tamper with the money supply. That’s my issue. And fiat loses significant value over the long term.

Also, it kinda does affect me even in the USA. I personally would like to have a certain percentage of my net worth basically in cash for safety and security. If I choose to put it under my mattress I lose 2-3% every year due to inflation. I could put it in a bank, but if the shtf in a financial crisis maybe I would never see that money again. I don’t trust the government or fdic if things go really south. However if Bitcoin becomes widely adopted and I put my money in bitcoin I can reasonably expect the value of my money to rise over the long term. I’d rather choose bitcoin.

Yes, i feel this has been happening ever since the fall began and also now that coins have started rising. Do not join the wall street in their voyage,so that they do not dump on you. You just make your normal investment and get your profit when you see any. I think this trend of a particular time for pumping and dumping is becoming obvious. I wanted to buy a coin and after placing my order instead of buying directly, i discovered the price was being pushed up again. Also, at a particular time, trading activities become slow.

Such observations do really work but its not as accurate as always.

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If this observation ends up with same results for 1-2 months then you can assume that it really does.

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You can now a hint on how the market dumps and you can act accordingly to save yourself from losses.

This is actually good if you put money on it and bet on it who knows you might get away with alot but always plot your cut loss if they shifted their trading style. Be objective as always. Cheers!

Not saying this we’re in a bull market, but if memory serves me right wasn’t Ethereum the last big coin to hit all time high.

Now it seems it’s finally corrected and bitcoin has been fairly stable for a while. The rest of the alts dumped with Ethereum, but didn’t hit the lows of a few weeks ago. Maybe this isn’t exactly a reversal, but it seems we are entering calmer waters.

I've been saying that someone with a large volume of assets manipulates the price on the crypto market. Maybe it's really guys from wall street.

if you see the current market conditions it is very sad for me, maybe also for other users as well because the price does not show a significant increase. but I'm still sure there will be developments in the market and I'm always optimistic about that.

For the time being and for the last few days I can only pay attention to the market situation that is still not as stable as many people expect. But I do not need to make continuous sadness. Because I'm sure the storm must have passed, and the market is back in green. Don't be sad or panic. Everything will be fine, according to my own predictions! ;D

have you tried using this in your bidding? or maybe you have some idea how you can use it?

you must wake up and take a look few days ago!
it's much worse than Aug.
90% of investors chose to quit in loss. and I think it's still a good move right now