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Title: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: Hiroaki on February 28, 2014, 04:13:21 PM
Hi,
How can I host (safely) several Cointerra units at home, without overstaining my electricity circuit ?
They consume between 1900W and 2100W.

I would be willing to make some adjustments (if price is reasonable).

Thanks for your help !



Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: bobsag3 on February 28, 2014, 04:33:43 PM
Hi,
How can I host (safely) several Cointerra units at home, without overstaining my electricity circuit ?
They consume between 1900W and 2100W.

I would be willing to make some adjustments (if price is reasonable).

Thanks for your help !



Several? Your going to have issues, A single CT needs 2 separate 15A 120v breakers to function, unless you have spare 20/30A breakers for stove/dryer etc.


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: Colin Miner on February 28, 2014, 04:38:13 PM
Hi,
How can I host (safely) several Cointerra units at home, without overstaining my electricity circuit ?
They consume between 1900W and 2100W.

Put one on each ring?


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: GigaWave on February 28, 2014, 04:49:08 PM
Your are likely going to need two 240V 45AMP circuits installed. A whole house surge protector is recommended also, as 240V surge protectors for high AMP devices are much more expensive than using a single whole house protector. You would likely need 200AMP mains service to support this along with your normal needs, which not all house have.  Best bet is going to be calling up a electrician and them come out to give a quote.


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: Hiroaki on February 28, 2014, 04:49:58 PM
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Several? Your going to have issues, A single CT needs 2 separate 15A 120v breakers to function, unless you have spare 20/30A breakers for stove/dryer etc.

I thought this is gonna happen, I hope i do not have to convince my friends to babysit the miners.
Do you think it would be very difficult /expensive to install the right breakers ? Obviously done by an "electricity expert".



Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: GigaWave on February 28, 2014, 04:51:22 PM
Since you are asking these question, I would call a electrician. If you screw up you can burn down your house.


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: Hiroaki on February 28, 2014, 04:52:36 PM
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Your are going to likely go to need two 240V 45AMP circuits installed. A whole house surge protector is recommended also, as 240V surge protectors for high AMP devices are much more expensive than using a single whole house protector. You would likely need 200AMP mains service to support this along with your normal needs, which not all house have.  Best bet is going to be calling up a electrician and them come out to give a quote.

That sounds like the best solution. I will give a few calls to some electricians and let you guys know what the outcome will be.
Anyone an idea what this could cost  ?


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: Dalkore on February 28, 2014, 05:01:47 PM
PMed you. I will send you a hosting quote.  These units eat a ton of juice and need good cooling.

Cheers,
Dalkore


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: GigaWave on February 28, 2014, 05:25:44 PM
PMed you. I will send you a hosting quote.  These units eat a ton of juice and need good cooling.

Cheers,
Dalkore

$68 month for $7 your cost in electricity? No thank you.  That's like a 900% mark up, I am in the wrong business.

Is my math wrong? That seems a bit steep.


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: Hiroaki on February 28, 2014, 05:30:07 PM
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$68 month for $7 your cost in electricity? No thank you.

Is my math wrong? That seems a bit steep.

I think it is: $295.64/month

http://bitcoinasichosting.com/pricing (http://bitcoinasichosting.com/pricing)


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: GigaWave on February 28, 2014, 05:34:50 PM
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$68 month for $7 your cost in electricity? No thank you.

Is my math wrong? That seems a bit steep.

I think it is: $295.64/month

http://bitcoinasichosting.com/pricing (http://bitcoinasichosting.com/pricing)

I took the calculation form the BFL Single SC #.

The Terraminer IV is a much better deal. Only about 10-15% markup. Maybe this is due to the rack mount nature of TMIV.


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: JoseSan on February 28, 2014, 05:45:05 PM
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Your are going to likely go to need two 240V 45AMP circuits installed. A whole house surge protector is recommended also, as 240V surge protectors for high AMP devices are much more expensive than using a single whole house protector. You would likely need 200AMP mains service to support this along with your normal needs, which not all house have.  Best bet is going to be calling up a electrician and them come out to give a quote.

That sounds like the best solution. I will give a few calls to some electricians and let you guys know what the outcome will be.
Anyone an idea what this could cost  ?

A liberal estimate (using a *good* electrician) would be about $2000.


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: Hiroaki on February 28, 2014, 05:51:35 PM
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A liberal estimate (using a *good* electrician) would be about $2000.

Thanks. Dalkore's offer sounds as well interesting  :)


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: volosator on February 28, 2014, 06:42:02 PM
I got 4x 20A circuits installed for $200, including parts.


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: Dalkore on February 28, 2014, 07:14:03 PM
PMed you. I will send you a hosting quote.  These units eat a ton of juice and need good cooling.

Cheers,
Dalkore

$68 month for $7 your cost in electricity? No thank you.  That's like a 900% mark up, I am in the wrong business.

Is my math wrong? That seems a bit steep.

Sure the power is cheap but the redundant power infrastructure, large commercial HVAC, redundant fiber connection, 24 hour monitoring and tech support (they do have issues) is not $7.    You need the low power cost to keep everything else cheaper.  I will be doing a video tour soon and that will help people see what it entails.  Thank you for your question. 


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: psycho-pass on February 28, 2014, 07:14:35 PM
I got 4x 20A circuits installed for $200, including parts.


0.o here in uk its 32A 230v, whats ur V rating


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: Dalkore on February 28, 2014, 07:20:08 PM
I got 4x 20A circuits installed for $200, including parts.


Don't forget your cooling.   75 degrees or less is where you need to keep the room for optimal hashing.



Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: volosator on February 28, 2014, 07:30:37 PM
I got 4x 20A circuits installed for $200, including parts.


Don't forget your cooling.   75 degrees or less is where you need to keep the room for optimal hashing.



It's in a cold basement. 37F is ambient temp.


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: iglasses on February 28, 2014, 07:46:10 PM
Since you are asking these question, I would call a electrician. If you screw up you can burn down your house. destroy your miner


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: StringTheory on February 28, 2014, 07:48:17 PM
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Several? Your going to have issues, A single CT needs 2 separate 15A 120v breakers to function, unless you have spare 20/30A breakers for stove/dryer etc.

I thought this is gonna happen, I hope i do not have to convince my friends to babysit the miners.
Do you think it would be very difficult /expensive to install the right breakers ? Obviously done by an "electricity expert".



Hey Hiroaki, I'm Dalkore's business partner and another owner at www.bitcoinasichosting.com

Something I need to stress is making sure you calculate the total cost of everything required to do an electrical upgrade to a residential unit.  Permitting, wiring, paneling, and installation of A/C are the things that come immediately to mind.  Also, unless you are the owner of the house, doing extensive power upgrades that will be left at the house might be something to consider.  Last thing is simply the noise and the heat.  These Cointerras are LOUD, expect to hear one from 2-3 rooms away in a residential setting.

Hope you find the best solution for your mining needs!

StringTheory

PS. Don't run 3 or more in a small house unless you love nonstop Dubstep   :P


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: Entropy-uc on February 28, 2014, 07:55:52 PM
They are far too loud for a residential setup.

And at $300 per month for hosting, you will lose money each month shortly.  The ASIC gold rush is over.


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: aerobatic on February 28, 2014, 09:37:40 PM
Your are likely going to need two 240V 45AMP circuits installed. A whole house surge protector is recommended also, as 240V surge protectors for high AMP devices are much more expensive than using a single whole house protector. You would likely need 200AMP mains service to support this along with your normal needs, which not all house have.  Best bet is going to be calling up a electrician and them come out to give a quote.

why do you need two 45 amp circuits?

2100 watts at 240 volts is 9 amps... you won't need two circuits... one will do.

however, if you're using 120 volts... then you'll need two circuits, because 18 Amps continuous draw is higher than the average household breaker.


Title: Re: Hosting CoinTerra @home
Post by: volosator on February 28, 2014, 10:31:51 PM
Another idea - get one of APC power strips - they can run 240V off 2 phases.